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Where can I read the ln?

@joshuacruz249 It's not out yet. This is just a theory I had on what could happen.

From Sword oratoria vol 15

Low levels are all dead that is confirmed.

The main series final lines were the annihilation of the Loki Familia. While we see that most of their lvl 3-4 that reached the surface are heavily injured. This implies that most of the Loki familia perished in the expedition, while the few that didn't got heavy injuries forcing them to stop being active adventurers. Other than the executives( who might have casualties as well) everyone else is pretty much gone.

@@tahsinazizswapno8181 She'll begging for their help in volume 21. I would love it if Hestia asked her this "Why should I help you? When you didn't bother to negotiate with the Guild to let your children fight in the War Game against Freya after I freed from being Freya's puppets?".

@@tahsinazizswapno8181 Loki could also be ashamed to ask Hestia to lend her best children to help in the expedition. When Loki didn't even negotiate with the Guild to let a few of her best children fight in the Great Faction War against the Freya Familia. After Hestia freed them from being Freya's charmed puppets.

@peeweemaroske8619 Yeah you got a point I think that is also a point. But in volume 15 of sword oratorio manga spoilers she basically dismissed hestia, there was also the case of Leon Vanderburg saying Bell was not ready and Finn explaining Bell not having lower floor experience. But I digress Finn is taking other familia with them mostly all of the talented whose level is 3 to 2 working as supporter or medic . But why exclude Bell and the other simple politics. It does not make sense to take level 2 and 3 of other familias if seen in volume 20 with Raul who is level 5 working as a supporter. Loki just did not want competition. I have a theory that the fame of familia pertains the amount of worship a deity receives. If you look at it closely why did the gods come down instead of using combined effort to destroy the dungeon? Simple to put humanity under them who were losing 📉 faith in them. It's just a theory but I think Chaos is inside the dungeon who was the energy and primordial that created the gods. Also with Riveria desperately wanting to go to 60th floor I think there is something there that made Loki greedy and Loki familia to have it. Perhaps Albert's Legacy or a Spirit weapon?

@@tahsinazizswapno8181 Yes. Loki dismisses Hestia. Because she hates admitting that Hestia has a damn good name for herself and that her children are powerful. So powerful that her top 3 members want them to join the expedition. When Loki told Hestia that she wouldn't make it in Orario. Loki doesn't like the idea of her favourite Ais getting even closer with Bell because he is Hestia's favourite. But after volume 20 she's going to be practically begging for Hestia's help. Bell will assemble the biggest rescue mission ever.

@peeweemaroske8619 Who do you think is going to die? I think Ais is going to be captured by the demi spirit and also I think there is something in the 60th floor related the the Elf Queen Celdia and Albert Wallenstein

@@rockmanmix6242 Guess she's being too prideful about asking Hestia for help. Because Loki told Hestia that she wouldn't make it in Orario when she first arrived.

and now she’s no better than Freya…Orario is now crippled!

@@rockmanmix6242 Yeah. Also Loki probably thought that Hestia would be pissed off at asking her for her children to help the Loki Familia fight in their expedition. When they didn't fight with them the Great Faction War against the Freya Familia.

​@@peeweemaroske8619 That's possibly the reason.

volume 15 of sword oratoria

Where can I read the ln? Waiting for the manga for over a month now. Progress is really slow

​@@joshuacruz249the main source is the LN and the manga Adaptation is slow they're still in Vol 8 from the Light Novel

For now no one important. The leaks stated that they are still fighting, they just got defeated basically. Seeing how bell new skills is charm resistance ( and his new skills always play a role in the next arc) the opponent more likely has charms powers which overwhelmed the expedition team. It hasn't been leaked if anyone from the main forces died, however it takes time to get back on the surface and back to those floors, so it's possible that by the time they get back, someone might does

If anyone dies it might be one of the twins and the dwarf maybe Finn tho I doubt they would kill Finn off before he fights the black dragon I think they will need his strategy to help win. I don’t see ais or the 2 elves dying also don’t think bete will die. I personally hope none of the twin dies but since it’s 2 of them I see one getting picked off

@@TheBabooon totally agree. If someone from the Loki executives is to die, the more likely one is Finn, since he is overshadowing the next generation. He already escaped death twice during the Knossos arc. Raul is constantly set up to be Finn's successor but he never gets the chance to do so. As long as Finn is around, Lilith doesn't have any important role against the black dragon. Finn is also the one that Hestia Familia interacts with the most ( not counting Ais), so his death will affect both of their Familia a lot, giving them a reason to get a lot stronger. At the same time this way he also becomes for them what Fionna was for him, the strongest adventurer( in their eyes) who all of them look up to with the legacy he left behind, while also completing his own goal of becoming a hero like Fionna. Bett will not since he is literally set up to fight the black dragon with his transformation being something he can do only on the surface, Ais is the main female lead, Gareth and Riveria just became lvl 7 while barely having any important screen time. Besides Riveria has yet to reach her goal. Lefiya is basically the 2nd female lead, Anakitty and Raul, while sad, they don't have a huge impact to the viewers, the Loki executives or Bell so there is no point. For the amazonnes, while their death would affect the main cast, it's not as much as Finn's death.

​@@solarium4884 See it differently. If someone from the higher ups is dying, is it probably Bete and the older Amazon. Reason why the others are hard to believe: - Fin, Gareth, Riveria are fresh lvl 7. Killing them off would be a hard backstep for the incoming fights (at last would it suck, to lose them again). - Aki is a fresh lvl 5. She is the middle women of the higher ups and the lower ones. She isnt that important for the story. But it would be bad for Raul. Because, at last in the manga does it look like, that they could come together. And, he needs her at his side, when he becomes the next leader. -Finn can hardly die, because he could be needed for the story. He has a lot of death flags. But Lili isnt ready to take his place. In addition could she finaly come together with him, after Bell declare Aiz as his only love interesst. Reason why Bete and the older Amazone: - Bete: He has no direct purpose for the story. Allen can take his role for the upcoming fights. Bete story is for the moment finished. He has no open things left and loosing him would work as a shock. It would maybe even finishing him completly. By dying to defende the weaker ones (he allready declaired, that he doesnt want to see weaklings dying again). It would only be bad for his amazon "girlfriend". - older Sister (forgot everytime, who is who): She has to vanish, so, that Finn and Lili can come together. Otherwise would she allways be in the way. In addition could it create a set up for the younger sister, who is allways happy and has barely any amazon instinct activ. Fin, Gareth, Riveria would only work for dying, if they had been lvl 6. But with there new lvl does they looks to important, to vanish allready. It would only work, if Freyas lvl 6er would reach lvl 7 with this. The other lvl 6er from Loki are to fresh, as that they could have the stats for lvl up allready.

Thank you! 😁

that might hapen i don't think ais will have such thing with bell besides who can deal with bell and understand him better then her

​​@@ahmadefaro9830You're just being silly if you think Ais isn't going to be with Bell.

@@peeweemaroske8619 it's not that there is no chance but ais doesn't look intrested in bell as person but i think your right ais is the only girl that will get bell no matter what

@@ahmadefaro9830 Bell has constantly been on Ais' mind since she saved him in season 1. After the Great Faction War she told Ryuu that she's been thinking about Bell a lot more. Especially what he said to her when she was charmed by Freya. How she cheered for him so much during the Great Faction War to the point where her throat got messed up and how she thinks that Bell is kind of an Adventurer that lifts people's spirits up while smiling. You're just lying to yourself for saying Ais doesn't think of Bell as a person at this point in the story. Not being mean you shouldn't "think" I'm right about Ais' being Bell's girl. It's been established from the beginning. The very skill that allows him to have his fast growth was developed by his love for Ais.

​@@ahmadefaro9830ну если почитаешь мангу "меч оратории", то ты бы так не говорил.

No they're not dead, Raul specifically stated the executives are still fighting in the deep floors and requested reinforcements. Also there are certain characters amongst them that are crucial for the story and can't die.

@@redrover1172 Thanks for the reply 👍.

HAHAHAH damn. Loki is trully a joker. She made everyone laugh

He’s the freya executive that agreed to go with them

Hedin asking him to go with them

This is SO volume 15 I believe

Sword oratoria Vol 15

that was in the past those two right now can go to the 40th floor by them selfs making the rest of the hestia familia look like nothing but tourists in the dungeon so bell and Ryu right now :37th floor is such a grate place to have picnic or a date

@@ahmadefaro9830 they can go but they can’t stay. Vol 14 page 207, even Ryu admits “It’s probably different if you’re level six, but you’ve got to have at least a three-no four man cell. Plus you’d want a healer” These are top tiers adventurers, at least level 4 not level 1-2s, Bell and Ryu wouldn’t have the time nor power to protect them constantly. Any loss of focus will result in accumulation of damage or their deaths. “Even Loki and Freya familia cant afford to be careless down here. Not even the sword princess” “Aside from Ottar, even first tier adventurers wouldn’t come down solo” And this is just on the 37th floor without monster rexes. Ryu herself said “Astrea familia had made it to the forty first floor” so she knows how bad it can be. It’s the sheer quality and quality of monsters. Level 37 has 100s of level 3-4 on average spawning every few minutes, the forty’s will have level 4-5, Floor 49th have level 4-6. Unlike Ottar, they can’t just swing one slash and clear the entire floor, nor self-heal indefinitely, nor only take 5 minutes to heal both mind and body (which is what he did in Freya chronicle and now this volume) But he can, and he actively goes to solo the monsters and rexes, there’s a reason why his hunter skill is E, and stats are S ranks. For your scenario, with low risk to the lower level members lives will be the 19th-24th floors. Unless the Warlord is their protector, then even the 40th floor will be no issue.

LMAO

Well he has been level 7 for like 8 years he has just been waiting for a monumental feat to level up (soloing balor)

​@@megabound292 he want go gain exp by slaying balor so he can level up

Honestly I'm surprised they considered asking for help. I personally wouldn't want to live with myself after asking Hestia Familia for help after Loki Familia's shameful back off at the war game.

@bill_greek_gamer477 Yes. They did help in a small way I suppose. But them not fighting in the War Game almost got Bell completely broken. It was really stupid of Ais of choosing a favour to a brainwashing tramp over someone she cares about. I'm pretty sure brainwashing her and the city wasn't a part of the deal.

@bill_greek_gamer477 Well they did in a small sense. But that was barely close to paying Hestia for freeing them from being Freya's puppets.

@@peeweemaroske8619 Honestly I genuinely believe it's because of Cranel's obsession with Aiz that they think they can get away with such thoughts. They literally would just have Aiz try to woo him just to get what they want. I seriously despise how much of a *coward* he still is.

@@bill_greek_gamer477 It's no secret to the Loki Familia that Bell and Ais have feelings for each other. Especially if Ais or the Twins tell them about how Ais was the only one who didn't completely forget about Bell when his own Faction and Advisor did.

Thank you 😊🙏

I think he had someone who can leak him a information

@PRACTISESARANK damn lucky

Yes bro 💯

I find it ironic, Loki and Freya were the ones who banished Zeus and Hera when they were cooked by the oebd and now they’re going through the same situation

​@@blackspider9780Because Freya and Loki got too stupid and stubborn. The people are going to the Hestia Familia for help. They led the War Game against the Freya Familia (Loki Familia just sat on their arses) and their two First Class Adventurers fought in the Tournament against the School District. While the Loki Familia went on an expedition they weren't ready for. They should have waited til after the Tournament and they could have had the Hestia Familia come with them. They could have brought other Freya Familia Executives and Leon.

We don't know. We can assume Ais and even Finn are alive. They're the only ones necessary to the plot but the rest are up in the wind.

As far as I know all of the Executives are still alive. Because we are going to need every First Class Adventurer. Of course Ais Wallenstein is still alive because she's Bell Cranel's endgame. It would be great to see Orario disappointed with the Loki Familia. In the last few months they have done nothing but screw up. They got their butts handed over to them by Asterius, they didn't fight in the War Game against Freya, they did not fight in the Tournament against the School District and now they have failed their expedition to Floor 60. The very thing on why they did not fight in the War Game and the Tournament.

I don't know,but I'm pretty sure Ais is alive, maybe Riveria Finn and Gareth died, since there was a picture of three of them of their weapon in black n white

@@KagomeSenki I’ve been buying the manga for the Oratoria so it must have something to do with their secret war they been having. Hmmmm but still wow 🤯 there so many good characters in Loki familia

That wouldnt make sense, the guild need the loki familia. Imagine losing three level 7, five level 6 and the best healer in oranio. It is impossible to recover from that. Guild have to send help.

It was said before the end of this video that school district and Orario top adventurer will go down deep in dungeon, maybe Hestia and Freya familia, and all top of school district including Leon and Ottar level 8

Nah, that wouldn't happen. The guild will try anything to rescue 3 level 7, 5 level 6 + hogni + Amid. Orario wouldn't stand a chance against the black dragon without the Loki familia after all.

I can see Royman trying to stop Bell. He puts his foot down with Royman and Bell tells him that he's not asking permission.

The Loki familia didn't deserve it. Bell was not ready to go to the 60th floor of the dungeon.

@syzorst Nah man look at it closely Loki did not want any information or advantages given to hestia freely. Since hestia is now the top of orario, she did not want any competition. If you say Loki familia didn't deserve it then why did Loki allow all other familia to join and leave the hestia familia? Simple jealousy. Now why should hestia help Loki? She did not help her when Bell was close to get Molly wopped.

@tahsinazizswapno8181 Just because Loki didn't like Hestia doesn't mean her familia deserved to be destroyed. Loki has done great things for Orario. It was her familia that fought and destroyed the last of Evilus. It was her familia that worked with the Xenos in Denatus. During the ceremony when Bell first got his nickname, Loki even warned Hestia to be wary of Freya because she knew she had her eye on Bell. Hestia didn't take Loki's warning seriously and we saw what happened. If you read the novels, Loki and her familia did so much for Orario and while Loki do like to mess around, she is one of the few gods that genuinely care about her familia. To say Loki deserve to lose her familia just because she didn't want Hestia's help is absurd.

@@tahsinazizswapno8181 if you read sword oratoria, while Loki does butt heads with Hestia often, she actually respects her and her decisions very much and she probably trusts Hestia the most out of all the other Gods.

@syzorst Bro read volume 20 the only reason orario went through what it did for the dark ages for Loki and freya ganging up and banishing Zeus and Hera. Since Hera and Zeus who were the protectors of orario and was banished, some other opportunities took their chance to do whatever they want. Freya did nothing with her familia always trying to get their love, only joining when orario was truly in danger. Loki had to deal with the consequences of her own actions which she had to clean up. Though I give points for Konsoss which is a major turning point, but if you read volume 20 and the synopsis in wiki then it is clearly stated how she and freya had to gang up along work ottar and finn just to take down a weakned one armed Maxim the captain of zeus familia. Goes to show the amount of skill gap. For single members of zeus familia to be rumored to venture the lower levels of dungeons alone, goes to show how sorry finn his and his hubris is. I mean bruh struggling to even take one the lower floors with a team. Alfia and hight level members went to the lower floors alone. Finn, Riveria and Gareth might be level seven but their skill is Laughable. The only one I respect is Leon Vanderburgh the one who guarded the Dragon Valley Alone which has monsters from the 67th floor. No excuse for Loki and freya familia to be this sorry. They need to step up their game. Finn is a fake not only as a hero but as an adventurer he only cares about reputation and fame and look where it got him? To the Jaws of death. If he wanted to actually get stronger he would have trained his ass off and challenged himself.

Ais >>> Ryu

true, loki killed her familia

Combined with Finn's impatience. Remember him accepting information about the territory is what kept Loki familia out of the war game.

Hahaha, ironic isnt it? Being a god, an omniscience existence, being failed by their own pride. I guess the omniscience cannot overcome sins.

Yea to bad your it will never happen I like ais and bell and bell already tried rejecting ryu put she stopped him telling him let me love you a little more

@atomic_boy7 we shall see 👀 😏

delusional

@@RealKennyChains yea 🤣🤣

@tebjosh13 there's nothing to see cause that ain't gonna happend