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finally a drg video with some alternative points!

10:01 One thing is on specific biomes with those trees that have 5 purple orbs at the end of their branches. If you hit all 5 with your pickaxe or shoot them, they will stay lit up forever, and produce about the same amount of light as a scout's flare. The light is purple colored. Of course this light is super situational, based on where the trees are, but that it another strong light source outside of what you mentioned.

you didnt speak about going drunk to work haha which is a free handicap you can choose haha

This is such a fun video to watch! :D The ideas are well presented and it's very enjoyable! Personally, Industrial Sabotage is starting to get repetitive for me since it's mostly the same. Hacked the same 2 stations, and fought the same upside-down pinhead 160 times? I feel like what you said with the Dread's could also apply here. I love Sabotage, I just think it needs a bit more variance, like maybe different caretakers(?) like maybe instead of vents to open the eye, you hack nodes. Like something crazy like that idk. Maybe it's just me, but due to its predicable nature, all my builds just converge. Especially as a mostly solo player, Cryo Driller on Caretaker Haz 5 is... I mean, any build is possible but it ends up being too much work, not fun, and not worth that I just end up picking the Sludge every time I go Sabo

DRG Engineer is the grease between the gears of his team. His job is to support the actions of the other classes, whether that be helping Scout get minerals, filling the holes in a Driller bunker with platforms, or setting up defense with Gunner. He can do any of the team’s jobs well enough on his own, just not as well as the rest, which is what makes him perfect for helping them all out.

"low oxygen is a fun modifier" said nobody ever

I feel like some of your thoughts on this game apply really well to Don't Starve aswell. The terrain generation in ds is varied similar to drg, and you spend a lot of time in a world, so at some point, you'll develop routes from point to point and areas you frequent. Every unique world starts to feel like home at some point, and remember the layout of most of my long term worlds. Light is also very interesting, as darkness kills you and light sources are temporary, so ds turns darkness into a really strong resource management game. Ds is really good in turning things that are solved pretty easily in other games, like light in minecraft, into involved systems with lots of variables and solutions, making them incredibly interesting.

_"Darkness?! Ain't nothing!"_ 😹

Rock and Stone forever!

You zesty asl

The fuck is wrong woth the speed of this video audio?? FFS

DRG lights: Medium intensity flares (everyone) High intensity players (scout) Turrets (engineer) Flamethrower (driller) Zipline pole (Gunner) Muzzle flare and projectiles (most weapons)

I think one aspect of the classes and the strategy you talk about is how differently they make you **see** the caves. As an engineer you think of how and where to place your platforms, the driller thinks of ways of carving the terrain, the scout of where to grapple to. This, to me, is very interesting as it makes each cave feel completely different depending on which class you play as (and what classes are with you in the dive).

Love your voice so much *w* Also it's first time I'm hearing that somebody enjoy low oxygen missions. May be this modifier not that bad and shouldn't be deleted from the game as I thought from the very first time I experienced it :D Really good video overall! Rock and Stone!

13:35 I highly recommend the GDC talk "Making Games That Stand Out and Survive". It talks about the concept of "home" in games and how it allows players to be *in* the game but not make any commitments.

Mate, I thought *I* was a fast talker, but you have me beat 😅 I also have adhd so subtitles were a must! Also pro tip for anyone reading this, play at 0.75 speed if you have trouble following. Apart from that, good vid 😊 Rock and Stone!

got recommended yer vid on my yt homepage. vid rocks. i almost exclsuively play pubs, as i dont have any friends, really, to play with). 600 hrs in and we're still gamin. glad 2 have another cool player on the rig

Pancake spirals are clutch

darkest dungeon 1 has a very similar relationship with torches like flares

One of the most infuriating, and constant, experiences I have in pubs is when people build roofs over or walls around objectives. It's tactically inane! Built out of some instinct to create cover, not understanding that WE have the ranged weapons, the BUGS do not!

Well said...I'm looking for Teamwork and DRG is the best Co-op game I've ever played in this regard. The ROCK and Stone is morale boosting..a strategy of Bards and communication. It's strategic for a good time! ;)

Me watching hundreds of DRG analysis/review videos to get an idea of whether or not I should purchase this game I already have thousands of hours in

If you like roguelikes and drg you should try noita it's really hard and really fun

Your dislike on darkness might be cause you play mostly Solo, the flares are just not balanced right around it. With 4 dwarves throwing flares and a bigger chance someone will be scout, along the fact you can see each other and scan the cave much faster, darkness doesn't become such a problem. I would describe it in one way for most games that don't have an infinite flashlight, darkness is an enviromental hazard you need to navigate through, It cripples your vision, forces you to do resource management with the things that make you see, and adds to the atmopshere as a creepier theme. In DRG, it encourages the team to stay together along other mechanics, gives scout a job, and makes certain enemies better because you don't see everything.If the caves of Hoxxes we're always well lighted, it would lose a lot of it's atmosphere and charm. But in Solo, it just causes a lot more backtracking and makes exploring for minerals and other things a pain.

I think I fell in love with DRG for more or less the same reasons as you, developing strategy on the fly is neat (repellent platforms are king in that regard). However, DRG is a roguelite that eventually turns into a roguelike if you play it for long enough. After 1000 hours I recognise cave tilesets and I don't so much make up strategies anymore, but rather pull an ol' reliable out of my deck when needed. I have a suspicion that is why a lot of the DRG videos you watched didn't really mention that aspect of the game, as the novelty of that aspect eventually, mostly, wears off. I also agree with you on the cave becoming a home thing, the drop pod run is always a nice epilogue montage in which you get to run through all the devastation you implemented over the course of the mission.

I really enjoyed this video. Captured a lot of what i love about the game !

honestly, i kinda dont like elimination missions either. there are only 3 bosses and only 1 of them plays in a way i consider even remotely fun (the regular dreadnought) i could write a full 10 minute script on how much i hate both the twins and hiveguard, they just have so many elements that i consider annoying for the sake of being annoying

i think the darkness is handled in a really interesting way. lighting up areas to reveal stuff feels satisfying, and you have just enough light resources to stop the dark from feeling oppressive if you manage them correctly

Same. All do i love everything else as well :)

Love the style of discussion and fast talk, brain engagement maximum

I'm surprised that industrial sabotage is that high on your list. I think most long time players, generally, don't like it. Not because it's a bad mission inherently, but because of how much they needed to play it during the season when it was introduced and it now is a more sour experience because of it. The gap between the 'real' mission enjoyability and players bad memories of it is very interesting to see from videos that don't have that bias baked in from their past negative experiences

sorry i must ask, is my youtube acting weird or that's your natural talking speed? i had to use the 0.75 setting to understand

I think the cilture and the thematic elements of DRG that you are talking about are not so loved on their own, but because the gameplay and the strategy are so great that people find is that much more pleasing to associate with those themes and roleplay and the V button So don't be confused by the majority of people liking those elements more than you, it's more likely that people just find that way of expressing love for the game, for the same points you are mentioning before, much easier Tl;dr: You don't need to love DRG for Rock and Stone, you need to Rock and Stone to show how much you love DRG

Fun Fact about the dreadnoughts. For a very long time durring the games development history there was only 1 type dreadnought. The twins and the hive guard were added just before the game started doing seasons and it added some much needed variety to elimination missions. I do agree though that it might be time to add another 1 or 2 types though. Also at one point in the early days of early access the dreadnought's armor did not regenerate and it had way less attacks than it does now.

I love gush pieces, gives me the feels like "yes, YES, I knew this game was good keep talking"😂

Personally I actually really like the darkness. I think its at a perfect level where it means something but isn't insanely annoying, which for a lot of games is something they struggle with. There is a certain dopamine hit when I throw a flare and light up walls of glistening gold and nitra, or to my horror, reveal a tide of grunts. Scout's flare gun really compounds this by allowing you to beautifully light up entire caverns revealing all their little secrets. I think I would genuinely like the game less if the darkness mechanic wasn't where it is now. Anything more, and it would be annoying, anything less and it wouldn't allow those real "dwarfy" moments. Just my piece.

This was an amazing review!

High ground is actually not that good for sentries in DRG. Sentries target center mass. If you put them up high, they will only get bodyshots because they're shooting down on enemies. Whereas if you put them around level with bug's heads, they get headshots.

Unrelated but i noticed that the color scheme of your characters robes/clothes is very reminiscing of the trans flag and wondering if it's intentional or not Also great video :)

I love drg and I love totk

I saw a video that briefly mentioned how you change the terrain throughout the mission, with the drills and platforms, and also with bullet impacts.

a drg "review" that gives focus to the parts that i love about it AND is fully captioned? truly amazing work here!

Interesting how you think about DRG in a more strategic sense, as I didn't really think about DRG like that when I played, just going through the motions and "adjusting" when the situation arose, like I just place my turrets down or go "Oh a new room with enemies at the end of this tunnel, might as well place my turrets" or "Oh a swarm is incoming I should place my turrets" I was only really concerned about my turrets being placed, if they had ammo, or which way I should face them, 95% of my 1100+ hour playtime was with randoms in public lobbies, I don't think I would've played for that long without the multiplayer CO-OP as it's nearly half of the fun for me, though I don't have full on friends so that's maybe why :P, Some of the things you like about DRG aren't even things I consider thinking about when I think of things I like about DRG, like how you think the caves are a thing to become familiar with so they start to feel like a home a place you have now mastered, Also YOU LIKE THE LOW OXYGEN MODIFIER!? WHAT!?

Loved the vid! The environmental-strategy discourse is something I can relate strongly to, as a Driller main, but to say the truth, I've never really thought about it that way. This video helped me remember fondly some pretty cozy caves I've been to in my 200+ hours with DRG and now I appreciate this game even more ;D Also, your speed of talking is actually perfect!

+1 on everything you said, especially felt seen at the mention about why on-site refining stands above all other modes. Main thing I feel you didn't mention was about the scout, where I think one of the main things that make it special is how the unlimited vertical movement makes you view the whole cave in completely different perspective than the more vertically limited classes do. You end up having your own nooks where you stalk the cave life from, where you flee when things get too chaotic, and own shortcuts that no other dwarf has visited and due to random generation never will. edit: obviously I don't know you at all and have only watched this single video, but just wanted to add that based on the things you appreciate about DRG I feel like you might enjoy Hardspace: Shipbreaker. It's a game about breaking spaceships into parts, and being in debt.

"The flare gun is where he really shines." but also clearly the shotgun is the goat and don't you forget it

Nice video!

Thank you for the critical review of one of my favorite games. I've also noticed that a lot of other reviewers that talk about DRG are praising it without really focusing on what makes the game mechanically great. I especially agree with the darkness point, it's as if the developers kind of forgot the original idea as they developed the game - even the game's catchphrase is "Danger, >Darkness<, Dwarves" but the darkness aspect of it hasn't really been expanded upon since the closed alpha version of the game, in fact it's even been toned down. It's weird considering all it takes to solve darkness in modern DRG is for a scout to just shoot a flare, and if there's no scout in the team, you can still totally tolerate it by turning up the gamma option and spamming enough hand flares to compensate for the lack of visibility, which personally I find it to be a little annoying/flawed. The dwarves in DRG are funny but I think there's a lot of potential that's still left untapped. As an example Vermintide does their characters exceedingly well with their banter, various intersecting discussions, reactions to the environment they're in and whatnot - while the dwarves' communication only consists of voicelines triggered by specific actions, like killing an enemy, or pinging something, or pressing a button. The closest thing to individual characterization that DRG has is the dwarves' different voice tones and the drop pod landing sequence, in which, for example, the scout's whining loudly and is scared to begin the mission while the gunner is simply inconvenienced that he lost his pickaxe and is asking if anyone saw it -- and the driller then furiously cuts in and starts shouting for everyone to shut up because all the racket is disturbing his sleep. I only wish it was like this throughout the entirety of the game. Frankly, the game's catchphrase is a bit outdated. But it totally makes up for its lacking aspects with everything else it does well. Most importantly, it's still a fun game. These are just my two cents, as a player who's got 1500 hours racked up. =) Nonetheless Rock and Stone and thank you for the amazing video. Subbed.

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You have strongly femboy voice.