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Sound good right? Hope the Dragon run is traffic free and flowing all the way through. Enjoy it my friend!

@@trueview3127 Thanks, that's why on only go on Tues/Weds!

Fully agree - its a great experience for sure. So are the earlier generations of Cayman (981 and 987). I've also had a 997.1 C2S, BMW 340, BMW M2, VW GTI, and ND Miata, and they all are their own brand of enthusiastic fun. At the top of the handling and performance in the mountains stands the 718 GTS 4.0. That said - I sometimes miss the tire squeal of the 911 as I struggled to keep up with the 981 CS ahead. Thanks for commenting and see you out there I hope!

Thanks for watching! Will ask the guys ahead to give it some more gas on the straights next time. Definitely give GA 348 a try when you can. Would love to see it!

Thanks for watching!

Thanks for the great comment. I love all the roads you mentioned. 211 is great! I drove it back before the car was all the way broken in - so the footage isn’t that good. Need to get back out there soon! Will need to check out Waynesville - appreciate the suggestion. So I have to ask - what is your favorite backroad?

@@trueview3127 I have to say, I’ve been loving NC 215 lately. Lots of very tight turns and elevation changes and it really keeps me on my toes. Plus there are some great hikes off that road. I also have a serious soft spot for the BRP and have driven the full length in both directions. In June I drove from Sperryville to Waynesville only using Skyline Drive and the BRP (except for the detour east if Boone). 450 miles in 10 hours. I try to start those Skyline and BRP drives a couple of hours before sunrise so I can get the road to myself. It’s quite the variety with sections of tight twisties and sections in southern VA with wonderful big sweepers. VA 647 heading east from Flint Hill is very fun scenic drive past a lot of horse farms. I’ll take that while traveling from Sperryville to Arlington to visit my daughter. Hmm, now that you have me thinking, I need to mention US 58 just north of VA’s southern border. The section from Independence to Damascus is absolutely insane! Just hope you don’t get stuck behind one of the many bike vans taking people to the tops of the bike trails. That said, the bike van drivers keep those rigs moving pretty well considering. As a side note, the section from Galax to Independence is four lanes with some big high speed sweepers. It’s a fun, fast entry coming into the more technical sections from the east. Finally, US 64 through the Nantahala and Pisgah National Forests is very good, though it can get a bit trafficy around Highlands and Cashiers.

@Yakman18 wow - the notes are being taken - future date set for US 58! Thanks so much for all the details! Cheers and hope to see you out there!

@@trueview3127 Would love to drive with you guys sometime. I’m back in NC with the GTS in a few days. Yes, US 58 is one I need to drive again soon. August!

@@Yakman18 agree about 58 between Damascus and Independence. It’s a great road. BRP is a nice cruise, but too heavily patrolled to be properly enjoyed. But the pull offs and great views are endless!

At breakfast with the owner - he says it’s great! Thanks for asking. Cheers

That’s a great road - will need to put that video together soon. 997.1 911 in the lead role! Please keep the suggestions flowing. We take notes and find some hidden gems 💎! Appreciate you

@@kenaip3857 that’s a great route, although a few too many houses in places. Have lunch out on the patio at the main restaurant in Little Switzerland at the top. Stunning views and good food!

True words. So - we have 348, The Skyway, and Wayah or 215? But then there is a new dark horse recently found!

Yep, NC 215 and the Skyway are the other two. Wayah is great, but can be inconsistent at times. But it is right there with many, many other roads just under that top tier. TOTD, Back of the Dragon, WV-10, WV-250, Roan Mtn, Blood Mtn…

@@kendamer1480 a forecast of sorts!

I am still getting my hearing back after the last trip with it active. It’s a nice boost in volume!

I think the stock exhaust already sounds AMAZING.

@tobi_dg it does sound good! Thanks!

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Right by to you . . . thanks for watching!

@@Bon-mz5kb nope - despite it saying off - you have to do a long press on the button to actually turn it off!

@@trueview3127 thats why i said "you DIDNT turn it all the way off"

I couldn’t agree more. The comparison between the cars is tough to really get in a video- but we are trying to show the same road with the STi and the 981 / 718 so the viewer can see back to back how different the experiences are. This UA-cam journey has taught me the value of the experience over the speed to 60 or whatever other stat. I don’t think you could say the STi driver didn’t have an exciting experience on that road. I bet some might think that about the Porsches - but then again the high Gs are tough to get across on the vids. Once again - appreciate it!

Boxer forever. For sure it’s a quick car. Amazing how close it is actually. The turbo is the great equalizer.

It does sound like it for sure. Good call!

Thanks - will keep them coming then

He definitely has - actually has the most experience on track and is mostly always with our group. Check the channel for more videos of the STi - including one from Tail of the Dragon last year. More to come this season. Cheers!

Pretty cool to see how the input to both cars compares in the twisty section! The 981 Cayman's view will be out soon.

the fated battle of the boxsters!

I'm sure you'd hang no problem on the straight sections. . . . the problem though is that there really weren't any straight sections 😀

@@trueview3127 it does handle the twisties really good for its size and weight though tbh

@jaszm4713 I agree. The Mecan S rips on the corners. We have had a few ahead of us over the years. Definitely a force in the curves.

Sounds like a blast. We had a guy in our crew with a GT350 - although sadly he lost that car in a rain - loss of traction - situation. Love the sound of the V8! Definitely a group drive possible sometime in the future! Appreciate the comment.

It’s a great compare - nice to see the STi pushing . . .

It’s hard to capture the sense of speed with the GoPro. The smooth inputs by the drivers makes it look slower too. This was a pretty quick run - 8 or 9 tenths if I recall. Great road!

@@kendamer1480 yes - moving right along for sure. Grip limited.

Would love to run with a M3 to see how it went. I had an M2 - and the comparison is pretty close there. The M2 struggled a bit on the most twisty stuff - showing its weight. It pulled hard on corner exit to make up the difference.

Cool - glad you liked it. It’s a Wonderland of curves that road.

Glad you enjoyed it - much appreciated

For sure - great banked turns!

Thanks for the comment! Will get that uploaded soon! Currently on a filming adventure!

I just drove them the 718 GTS 4.0 and 981S back to back. The torque is about 20 percent more on the 718 but in the mountains, it’s the tire grip and experience that matter most - at least to me. So - both cars are fantastic tools for what they do and that is to convert miles to smiles.

Appreciate you! Welcome to the team.

It was after a long day - so we ran maybe 8 /10ths. I think most wouldn’t think it was chill but Porsche drivers know!

@@trueview3127 No worries I certainly still enjoyed as the roads are much better than what I have available to me locally. Unfortunately I’m not a member of the porsche club quite yet :/ perhaps I’ll reevaluate purchasing this winter.

Thanks for the compliment- I do like the auto blip feature and the gearing and it is fun to row through the gears. Thankfully, the torque is available to short shift 2 to 3 and still eat up a road like this one. Have you driven a GTS 4.0?

Why should the GTS have shorter gearing? Porsche engineers with many years of experience and craftsmanship have made the gearing in their own wisdom they are one of the best sports car manufacturers out there today. The gearing is perfect for the Cayman.

981 video coming soon!

Will be around $5k installed after everything. Worth it or no?

I am happy with the sound yes! I think that sounds a few hundred high for the cost - but don’t know the cost of the filters and the market could be different where you are. The material cost should be the same.

@@trueview3127 sweet! Just ordered it. Will be $3562 from Soul with tax and shipping. $1100 for install from my local shop. I’ll try to remember to leave feedback here in a month or so. If I forget someone remind me! Thank you for getting me to click the order button!

The hills are alive with the sound of ICE music!

Soul performance exhaust - valves version on the 981S. Amazing sound!

Cool request - might be able to get a video of that! Thanks for asking!

@@trueview3127 I just picked one up and pouring through the manual....yeah give me a video someone haha!

Thanks for the feedback!

@@trueview3127 It's somehow a more immersive experience

To be precise starting from bluff and heading north on 209 some of the best twistes in nc the secret dragon

The Secret Dragon - hmmm may I borrow that for the title? Might have some footage in the can 😎

@@trueview3127 absolutely it’s name a few of my friends and I came up with after trying to find the best road ourselves ofc not to the level you have managed but watching your videos is almost like a continuation of what we started so yes man absolutely wouldn’t want to hear it called anything else!

@grant1497 the 209 footage looks pretty good - going to be a nice video with an even cooler title! Thanks

@@trueview3127 no problem I look forward to seeing the video keep up the good work probably not the absolute best road in Appalachian but one that has made me fall in love with driving for sure 👍🏼

Thanks for the feedback- and for the watch!

Thanks Don - sound is a huge part of the experience. The Cayman S does sound amazing for sure.

That’s a great compliment - appreciate you sharing. The real question is - which one is the better car on a tight mountain road? I bet it isn’t an easy question to answer.

@@trueview3127 I drove them back to back on nearby series of roads I used to demo the cars to my friends just a few days ago. The cayman s is manual and the turbo s is obviously loaded with every piece of tech known to man at the time. I'm going to cheat on my answer. Driving the Turbo S feels like piloting a million dollar space ship and its Burmester sound system is superior to the point I can totally zen out to my music as I flow through the curves which is a HUGE deal to me. The cayman lets me feel way more of the road through the steering wheel and is much more work to carve the right line so it often feels more rewarding when you get it right. It depends on what mood I'm in.... You can also definitely tell the Cayman weighs 600 lbs less when doing weight transfer. I also have a DSC PASM sports controller on the Cayman among many other mods. They are so incredibly different to drive it is hard to really compare the experiences. After I put an exhaust on the Turbo to liven it up a bit my answer my change.

@deanparker7867 I am glad it was a tough choice and love the detailed answer. Would love to try a Turbo sometime!

Good question - I am going to guess that he is happy with the car as is but I will let him speak for himself. That said, I am not sure if he has tried a car with sport chrono to compare?

@@trueview3127 Yeah he looks good at rev matching himself. But that would be a fun feature to have. Recently drove a 981 Boxster S (with a manual). Loved the rawness of everything, but no sports exhaust and no sport chrono. Trying to decide if I should let either of those be a deal breaker for me.

Not a big deal. I prefer the manual heel toe anyway - just adds more enjoyment to the experience. Maybe if I tracked the car I might feel differently. I’ve never done a back to back comparison.

@@kendamer1480 Awesome thanks for the feedback! Would love to find a car just like yours! Man there are not a lot out there!

Sounds like it shouldn’t break the deal! Get the car and start smiling!

Dream, focus, make it happen! Definitely a great car! Thanks for watching and commenting. Cheers.

You only live once. Don’t save all the good parts for later. 987 is also a great option!

For sure - the road is a bit slippery but West Virginia roads are amazing. Highly recommended

This one came out well - nice sound and as always nice job to the camera man for framing the car ahead perfectly!

I hope the whole crew likes the longer format!

Take me home - country roads

There is a tune as well as the exhaust. Let me check with him about details.

Thanks! Appreciate that. See you out there I hope.