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How Fandom Impacts A Story
Anyone can pick up a pen and paper and add to a story. Nothing is physically stopping you from writing your perfect sequel to that movie you love. But canon prevents it from being real, from mattering. A barrier between all that is official and unofficial. At least, that’s the way it is for most works of fiction. But as modern creators push the boundaries of storytelling, the rules of canonicity become hazy. Fandom begins to influence media as much as it influences them. In today’s video, we’ll explore this concept of ‘canon’, the history of fandom, and a few works of fiction that break the mold.
Archie Sonic was longer, but honestly, this is a contender for the biggest video yet. Longest production time (we’ve been working on it for like a month now), second longest runtime, and definitely some of the most fun I’ve had. You could say it’s been in the works for years - I originally did a presentation to a group with more or less the same outline in 2022. Two years later, and I found the file in the backups from my old hard drive. I was impressed in how similar it felt to my current style of video, and so I dusted it off, rewrote it, and a month later, here we are. I hope you enjoy it!
And, even though I say it in the video, I would like to extend an invitation to any member of the Homestuck Team, old or new, to do an interview as a follow-up. It was difficult to find material on the drama behind Homestuck^2, three years later, with a lot of it being my personal observations at the time. It would be cool to hear the other side of the story, and perhaps hear some juicy behind-the-scenes process on the comic itself. On the other hand, I love the direction the new team is taking the comic, and would be head over heels for a chance to discuss it. Either way, my inbox is always open! (ravgamestudio@gmail.com, btw.)
Addtl. Credits:
- Patreon bumper song: Palmtree Panic (Past) - Sonic CD
- Aid bumper song: Will add soon!
CHAPTERS:
0:00 - Intro
3:36 - Religion and Sherlock
6:17 - The 1900s and Star Trek
9:32 - Commercial Break
10:39 - Internet and Fandom
17:23 - Petscop and FNF
24:30 - Commercial Break #2
25:12 - Homestuck and the Epilogues
30:42 - Beyond Canon
37:26 - Conclusion
39:30 - Outro
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The Normal Album: A Deep Dive
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A Tale of Two Sequels
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A Brief History of Disco
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  • @apatheticAstronaut
    @apatheticAstronaut 2 години тому

    37:08 hell yes

  • @Alison.Uncouth
    @Alison.Uncouth 7 годин тому

    This video deserves way more views!! Looking forward to much more from you now 🖤

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 7 годин тому

      @@Alison.Uncouth tysm!!

  • @MrTigracho
    @MrTigracho 10 годин тому

    Oh boy, I have been thinking of this topic ever since I see those stupid fandom wars within a fandom of a franchise, or work of fiction. How people sometimes are called delusional for reading into a work in one way, or complain that certain characters don't act like they should(AKA like how they WANT THEM to do), and how individual headcannons go on wars for this. This is crucial, considering stuff like this can contribute to the success or death of a franchise.

  • @TipsyBiologist
    @TipsyBiologist 15 годин тому

    Im very interested in how this new hs:bc team will take things. The newer updates ive read have been pretty good!

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 13 годин тому

      @@TipsyBiologist yeah, i’m super excited to see the comic back in general, but they’ve been knocking it out of the park so far imo

  • @torinsnotmyname827
    @torinsnotmyname827 23 години тому

    2:18 Naruto does the “hero but evil” thing perfectly imo. Pretty much every villian until the otsuki is just natuto if he lost his joy

  • @hellucingenia
    @hellucingenia День тому

    i have very bad memory loss and i relate to self-ish so much because i had that experience where i couldn't remember my younger self. His self-ish album helped me to come to terms with a lot of stuff. I don't focus on analysing who i am in peoples eyes or my eyes anymore. i kinda just live, its hard to explain but that doesn't matter to be honest awesome video i hope other people can learn some stuff from this deep dive into self-ish

  • @JBMVoid
    @JBMVoid 2 дні тому

    Arent chris evan first superhero was fire torch then captain America. So why cant actor play multiple characters?

  • @roble8943
    @roble8943 3 дні тому

    The whole Kirby section is plain wrong, Dedede hasn't been a villain in kiteral decades and in general is one of the few Nintendo characters with a consistant arc. The games outright show his growth from villain, to jerk that sometimes help Kirby, to jerk with a heart of gold and now a geniune respected leader. The few times he actively fights Kirby in his own violition anymore is treated more as competions/games.

  • @ViperRaiyu
    @ViperRaiyu 3 дні тому

    It’s always hard for me to call Dedede a villain since he’s not necessarily a “bad guy”. He’s self centered but has always had good intentions for planet popstar (even if he sucks at it).

  • @Magnet_Chaos
    @Magnet_Chaos 4 дні тому

    The funny thing about Ben Riley is that he wasn't Spiderman with angst. Because Peter himself had a LOT of angst during the clone Saga. Even calling himself The Spider just too be edgy. Ben was relatively chill. lol Though nowadays writers do give him all the angst and made him more edgy that Peter ever was in the 90s.

  • @shimabotplus
    @shimabotplus 4 дні тому

    insane how high production this is . amazing work here ::::]

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 4 дні тому

      @@shimabotplus tysm!! it meant a lot to me so i wanted to put some elbow grease in it

  • @cakebirrd1186
    @cakebirrd1186 4 дні тому

    nice video!!!!

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 4 дні тому

      @@cakebirrd1186 thanks!!

  • @Segadud
    @Segadud 4 дні тому

    dirk strider hell yeah

  • @JorguinTorpedo-ff5vk
    @JorguinTorpedo-ff5vk 4 дні тому

    Homestuck² don't exist is just a delusion.(Like all Fans i Never made Past Volume 2 and Assume that Vast Error is the new canon)

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 4 дні тому

      @@JorguinTorpedo-ff5vk a collective hallucination

  • @AnnoyinglyChipper
    @AnnoyinglyChipper 4 дні тому

    10:54: This is He-Man Fan Approved, thank you for including a clip from the series! I always love to see it!

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 4 дні тому

      @@AnnoyinglyChipper I’ll keep that in mind for future videos! I actually included it from the video “Fabulous Secret Powers” (the one that goes heyaeyaeyayea) but I’m a fan of the MOTU Revelations and She-Ra series, and watched the original when I was a kid!

  • @cademan8618
    @cademan8618 4 дні тому

    No one mentioned this in the comments, but Crisis Brandon Routh Superman actually firmly establishes that 3 happened. After breaking free of brainwashing, he remarks that it wasn't the first time he went crazy and fought himself. Just like when he separated and fought his evil tar kryptonite self in 3.

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 4 дні тому

      I considered bringing that up, but I thought it would’ve been a bit much for the intro. Technically, it doesn’t confirm that Superman 3 happened exactly, since Returns still contradicts it (Supes being gone for 5 years after the second movie). However, it does imply that some version of those events did occur (the tar kryptonite, but maybe not necessarily the evil computer and all that). TVTropes has a good article on this concept called “Broad Strokes”.

  • @Puerco-Potter
    @Puerco-Potter 4 дні тому

    Douglas Adams died, they didn't just gave his books to someone else 😂

  • @TaCoSiePrzysnila
    @TaCoSiePrzysnila 4 дні тому

    Man I have to say this, I am watching yourr 2nd video on Will, and I love the way you deep dive into his songs, into him as person, though keep being very, very understanding into how he feels, you respect it and respect others watching. I like the vibe of your videos and hope tto see more, that's a really goood interpretation of yours, and as a singer and songwriter myself I apprieccate your time into trying to understand and then explain it to others in most chronological order possible, just to make it simple and understable after first watch. That'ss a greatt video.

  • @deandredukes95
    @deandredukes95 4 дні тому

    Very insightful and informative my good man 👍🏾

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 4 дні тому

      @@deandredukes95 ty ty, i appreciate it

  • @Arcanist_The
    @Arcanist_The 4 дні тому

    So what I learned from this is that Visions of Great Beings is basically Beyod Canon done right. Common Bionicle fandom W

  • @MasterBotttle
    @MasterBotttle 5 днів тому

    Why do you sounded like "EmpLemon Jr."

    • @MasterBotttle
      @MasterBotttle 5 днів тому

      And Nintendo sucks, and their fandom is literal fucking CULT at this point.

    • @MasterBotttle
      @MasterBotttle 5 днів тому

      And Nintendo sucks, and their Fandom is a f⛎©️kℹ️🆖 CULT at this point.

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 4 дні тому

      @@MasterBotttle bro 💀 i’m gonna be rewatching one of his vids and be thinking about that now

  • @freewritingseer
    @freewritingseer 5 днів тому

    ravsucks? more like ravrules! this video was great! keep up the awesome work!

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 5 днів тому

      @@freewritingseer aww, tysm!! :)

  • @basedmek
    @basedmek 5 днів тому

    Korra AND Gurren Lagann on a thumbnail?! 😂 man this just made my week. Love both so dearly. Whole conversation around legacy characters is super interesting. Definitely my preference as it shows more organic and believable growth a lot of series seem to fumble. Not to mention room for added creativity (sucks finances play a huge role in this but without the underlying desire for profit we wouldn’t even get these series in their current forms)

  • @basedmek
    @basedmek 5 днів тому

    Algorithm got me here but damn this is a really well made video

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 5 днів тому

      @@basedmek thank you!!!

    • @basedmek
      @basedmek 5 днів тому

      @@ravsucks no problem! Watching your other videos as we speak

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 5 днів тому

      @@basedmek :0 you’re the goat

  • @greengaleproductions
    @greengaleproductions 5 днів тому

    1) This is a fantastically written and edited video. 2) I was talking about this exact thing IRL less than an hour before getting recommended this video.

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 5 днів тому

      @@greengaleproductions that’s crazy, same brain…

  • @GenericClient
    @GenericClient 5 днів тому

    I see homestuck, I click

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 5 днів тому

      @@GenericClient you’re so real for that

  • @soapyful
    @soapyful 5 днів тому

    This video is genuinely really good. It's well edited and actually provides insight on the topic. Commenting so hopefully UA-cam algorithm picks this up!!!!

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 5 днів тому

      @@soapyful 🙏 i appreciate it, and i’m so glad you enjoyed it!

  • @AniematedSteph
    @AniematedSteph 5 днів тому

    20:50 that is not Tony. That’s Phillip Moyer, the guy who interviewed him. Tony hasn’t shown a face

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 5 днів тому

      @@AniematedSteph Ohhh, I see. No wonder it was so hard to find a picture of him! My bad, should’ve double checked that…

  • @BrandonPyle-v5m
    @BrandonPyle-v5m 5 днів тому

    There also a problem that legacy can end up doing. That is when legacy ends up undermining what came before. Either because the writers are spiteful or have no emotional connection to the IP, or in a rare cases unintentionally because of the corner they wrote themselves into.

  • @BrandonPyle-v5m
    @BrandonPyle-v5m 5 днів тому

    Funny how Vegata gave up on the rivalry just as the Dragonball Manga came to an end.

  • @ISuckAtThisGameCalledLife
    @ISuckAtThisGameCalledLife 5 днів тому

    boohoo no one cares about FNF and Homestuck, go find less dead franchises.

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 5 днів тому

      @@ISuckAtThisGameCalledLife if FNF and Homestuck have a million fans i’m one of them. if FNF and Homestuck have one fan it’s me. if FNF and Homestuck have zero fans, I’m dead.

    • @Ice-wu8qq
      @Ice-wu8qq 5 днів тому

      Bait... Used to be believable...

    • @docjackson8165
      @docjackson8165 5 днів тому

      3/10 ragebait, find a job

    • @quorpalorp
      @quorpalorp 5 днів тому

      at least you're fluent in yappanese

    • @sn0wcake
      @sn0wcake 5 днів тому

      fnf came out in 2020 and both of these franchises had immensely large fandoms when they came out. homestuck in particular was so big that it literally changed fandom culture with how influential it was. get better bait lmao

  • @infinitefun527
    @infinitefun527 5 днів тому

    now I don't exactly have a fanbase so I can't say this, however, I actually think fandom should at least somewhat impact the story, (I take youtube analytics into account when animating, for example, plus I ask people "what do you want out of this series?" and sorta take those ideas into account without actually letting them take over, doing what I want without being bullied and slammed around and forced to rewrite if people don't like it, but rewriting if I like someone's idea.)

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 5 днів тому

      @@infinitefun527 Yeah, absolutely! If you really are inspired to make something, then create what you feel like creating, but it’s fun to have a back and forth with your fans. Hearing feedback and seeing excitement when you post something they were looking forward to feels awesome. And the impact of fandom is definitely greater on indie creators, since they’re often fans themselves.

    • @infinitefun527
      @infinitefun527 5 днів тому

      @@ravsucks It's super fun to have a back and forth with your fanbase, even if it is smaller than a crumb Honestly I say you should make more homestuck videos as thats kinda what I'm here for, or a law of talos video if you like that.

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 5 днів тому

      @@infinitefun527 Never heard of Law of Talos, I’ll check it out! And yeah, idk what it’ll be about, but there will be more Homestuck at some point, no worries.

    • @infinitefun527
      @infinitefun527 5 днів тому

      @@ravsucks cool

  • @docjackson8165
    @docjackson8165 6 днів тому

    They call him the drink

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 6 днів тому

      @@docjackson8165 A BEVERAGE OF SORTS?

  • @espelhodasconstelacoes
    @espelhodasconstelacoes 6 днів тому

    Bro I was taken aback by seeing this video having barely any views, it's so good I thought you were a large channel! Hopefully you'll get all the recognition you deserve soon, keep it up! God bless ya and Jesus loves ya man!

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 6 днів тому

      @@espelhodasconstelacoes appreciate it, thank you! i’m flattered, and glad you enjoyed it

  • @TheBestYoshiGaming
    @TheBestYoshiGaming 6 днів тому

    dirk strider in thumbnail congrats on the click

  • @steernaught
    @steernaught 6 днів тому

    It really is awful out here, Socrates.

  • @MegaSoniczone
    @MegaSoniczone 7 днів тому

    Well, the reason Silver doesn't stick out as much in the rival role is because he was only Sonic's enemy for a portion of Sonic 06, then became an ally when he learned of the truth behind his decption. After that, he's mostly been seen as a hero, fighting for a better future. He's naïve, but he has a good heart and just wants do right by the world, he was just convinced by Mephiles that doing that would mean to take a life, which he would later question if that was truly the right thing.

  • @julioornano8427
    @julioornano8427 8 днів тому

    Piccolo being a ‘rival that got replaced’ is a bit of a stretch

  • @nmcintosh8769
    @nmcintosh8769 10 днів тому

    Metal Sonic came before Knuckles

  • @Spider-fan2038-js1iq
    @Spider-fan2038-js1iq 10 днів тому

    I think one of the few times resurrection works is in ninjago, the show does resurrection surprisingly well.

  • @k9go
    @k9go 11 днів тому

    Again undeserved hate for Johny guitar

  • @koolkid2342
    @koolkid2342 12 днів тому

    Even if its not an official toby track, the time Megalovania was played for the pope is worth a mention! Great video!

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 12 днів тому

      @@koolkid2342 thanks!! and yeah, definitely another insane addition to the song’s reach. i wonder what he thought of it

  • @Arcadia_warlic
    @Arcadia_warlic 15 днів тому

    Knuckles was not really considered Sonic's rival anymore aside from retellings, in the primary story, after Mecha Sonic's defeat. I doubt anyone would say Blaze was really Sonic's rival even though they directly have a rival fight in Rush, for example. Blues was definitely helping Rockman since the moment he stopped Rockman from killing Cossack only one game after he was introduced.

  • @chronred8190
    @chronred8190 15 днів тому

    honestly a way they could bring a character back repeatedly that would make sense is to keep doing it in some other form-first they are normal to some extent; then they get resurrected by some sort of experiment or whatever, becoming incredibly overpowered; then they are resurrected the normal way; but from that point outward they could then end up existing as a spirit once they die; then as a fragment of their spirit, possibly having to piece themselves back by searching for other fragments in some form or another; after which they are back as a spirit that may or may not be able to interact with the physical world and maybe have a physical form; then the spirit could be torn into multiple entities for extended periods of times when seemingly defeated, like each part representing a certain idea, or a certain emotion-you get the point/picture that way it's always something new; not just repeating the same thing over and over again with no flavor or originality

  • @Novika75
    @Novika75 16 днів тому

    Watched all they way to the end and got jumpscared by my artwork at 46:21 lmao Great watch

    • @ravsucks
      @ravsucks 16 днів тому

      HOLY SHIT??? that’s really cool! I love your style for sally sm it reminds me of the one cover w/ sonic shadow and metal i showed earlier

    • @Novika75
      @Novika75 15 днів тому

      @@ravsucks it's a tad old now! not my best lol but I used to do a lot of Sonic Battle style a few years ago! thank you for your words!

  • @raidenpainn1561
    @raidenpainn1561 16 днів тому

    the second I saw Makima (this was before the anime came out) appear, I immediately thought she was a witch.

  • @alphaprometheus2330
    @alphaprometheus2330 16 днів тому

    Gurren lagunn is the only anime or series that has made me genuinley cry