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Now For Wrath Gaming is dedicated to bringing awesome content for the Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game by Games Workshop. Don't forget to check out our blog, which is frequently updated at nowforwrath.com!
The Host of the Witch King vs Erebor Reclaimed in Seize the Prize! | MESBG Batrep
In this Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game Report Steven and Andrew play Seize the Prize. Steven drives the Host of the Witch King for maybe the only time, and Andrew drives a channel favorite- Erebor Reclaimed and Rivendell.
00:00 - Intro & Lists
06:34 - Andrew's Strategy
08:03 - Steven's Strategy
09:00 - The Game
32:27 - Game Wrap Up
00:00 - Intro & Lists
06:34 - Andrew's Strategy
08:03 - Steven's Strategy
09:00 - The Game
32:27 - Game Wrap Up
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Now for Chats Episode IV: MESBG Leaks and Spoilers!
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We're real hype on the new edition! This is just us sharing our opinions on the internet- a practice hitherto unheard of! This is your NUMBER ONE spot on the internet for Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game half-baked opinions.
Aragorn King Elessar absolutely SMASHES through Durin's dwarves of Khazad Dum in this MESBG Batrep
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Aragorn King Elessar is absolutely in his element as he faces the elite dwarves of Durin's guard from Khazad Dum. This Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game Battle Report is a sight to behold- truly Elessar at his best!
Azog vs Helm Hammerhand - who will be the victor? Pits of Dol Guldur vs Rohan in this MESBG Batrep!
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Azog leading the Pits of Dol Guldur assaults a town in the Riddermark and winds up squaring off with Helm Hammerhand! Enjoy this Battle Report for The Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game!
Elrond and Durin Bromance vs an orc horde. Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game batrep.
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The best buds Elrond and Durin team up to take on a whole buncha orcs! #miniature #mesbg #lotr #wargaming #lordoftherings
Angmar vs the Last Alliance in Assassination: 1000 Battle Report Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game
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This is it! The last hurrah of the old shade. The Shade is dead, long live the shade. Steven and Andrew do a final NOVA prep and say their farewells to the nastiest spooky boi in MESBG.
NOVA Open 2024 Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game Tournament Report
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The boys head up to the Capital to nerd out with the best of them! Listen to how the fellas did in their game by game breakdown of their NOVA Open battle report. #miniaturewargaming #mesbg #miniature #lotr #tabletopminiatures
Khazad Dum vs Mordor- 500 points no named heroes. One great beast. MESBG Battle Report!
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In this game, Steven and Andrew take Khazad Dum for a spin for the first time against a double wraith Great Beast list. This is for the 500 points no named heroes tournament format. Mistakes were made, opinions were formed and since changed, and dice were rolled. 00:00 Intro 02:54 The Game 33:52 Closing Thoughts
Summer Skirmish 2024- 500 point no named hero Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game Tournament Report!
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Summer Skirmish 2024- 500 point no named hero Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game Tournament Report!
Iron Hills vs Moria in Assassination- a Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game Battle Report!
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Iron Hills vs Moria in Assassination- a Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game Battle Report!
Durham's Bane: a 700 point tournament report for the Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game
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Durham's Bane: a 700 point tournament report for the Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game
Angmar vs The Grey Company in To the Death at 1000 points. | MESBG Battle Report
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Angmar vs The Grey Company in To the Death at 1000 points. | MESBG Battle Report
The Last Alliance vs Moria in To the Death! A 700pt Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game Battle Report
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The Last Alliance vs Moria in To the Death! A 700pt Middle Earth Strategy Battle Game Battle Report
700 point MESBG Tournament Report- Bilbo's Birthday Bash.
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700 point MESBG Tournament Report- Bilbo's Birthday Bash.
Assault on Lothlorien vs Minas Tirith in Recon at 700 pts | MESBG Battle Report
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Assault on Lothlorien vs Minas Tirith in Recon at 700 pts | MESBG Battle Report
Balin's Tomb - Middle Earth Strateby Battle Game Scenario
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Balin's Tomb - Middle Earth Strateby Battle Game Scenario
Seize the Prize! Erebor Reclaimed and Gwaihir vs. Helm's Guard - MESBG Battle Report
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Seize the Prize! Erebor Reclaimed and Gwaihir vs. Helm's Guard - MESBG Battle Report
Rivendell & Galadriel Lady of Light vs Mordor & The Serpent Horde in Assassination - MESBG Batrep
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Rivendell & Galadriel Lady of Light vs Mordor & The Serpent Horde in Assassination - MESBG Batrep
Gothmog's Legion vs the Army of Laketown- MESBG Battle Report
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Gothmog's Legion vs the Army of Laketown- MESBG Battle Report
Minas Tirith and Rohan vs Rivendell and the White Council in Lords of Battle - MESBG Battle Report
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Minas Tirith and Rohan vs Rivendell and the White Council in Lords of Battle - MESBG Battle Report
Now for Chats Episode III: The Veto System & Less Loved Scenarios in MESBG
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Now for Chats Episode III: The Veto System & Less Loved Scenarios in MESBG
Mordor and the Serpent Horde vs Riders of Theoden in Destroy the Supplies - MESBG Battle Report
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Mordor and the Serpent Horde vs Riders of Theoden in Destroy the Supplies - MESBG Battle Report
Barad Dur vs Minas Tirith in Lords of Battle - MESBG Battle Report
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Barad Dur vs Minas Tirith in Lords of Battle - MESBG Battle Report
Theodred's Guard vs Rivendell & Gwaihir in Hold Ground- MESBG Battle Report
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Theodred's Guard vs Rivendell & Gwaihir in Hold Ground- MESBG Battle Report
Now for Chats Episode II: February 2024 FAQ
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Now for Chats Episode II: February 2024 FAQ
The Last Alliance vs Mordor in Divide and Conquer
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The Last Alliance vs Mordor in Divide and Conquer
Isengard vs the Grey Company in Retrieval
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Isengard vs the Grey Company in Retrieval
The Gathering Storm - An Escalation Tournament Report
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The Gathering Storm - An Escalation Tournament Report
Minas Tirith vs Mordor & The Serpent Horde in Lords of Battle
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Minas Tirith vs Mordor & The Serpent Horde in Lords of Battle
Now for Chats: Episode I - How to Tournament Good (A guide to MESBG tournaments)
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Now for Chats: Episode I - How to Tournament Good (A guide to MESBG tournaments)
thanks for the battle report guys! I am hyped to see you play with the new rules. I hope you are hyped too.
Very hyped!
It's incredible to think that this game is amazing on any points value. I've been crazy enough to run 1,500 on each side and as little as 200 for each side. And either way the game is still a blast
Very true! I love it both ways.
Thorin gives banner effect to Dwalin within 6. I think he was in range with the heroic move
Ah, yep, totally forgot that. I'm usually just allying in Erebor Reclaimed (Thorin) so usually don't have a second hero from the faction.
Off topic i see zombiecide in the background there, me and my brother are considering getting it, is it fun?
It's okay. Can be sloggy and repetitive. Main beef is your character resets between missions so you lose your cool abilities.
@ thank you, we’re gonna try it out and see
@@justinfanter3620 yeah it’s pretty good for an evening but does get old. Fun with a big group!
I fuggin love you guys, your battle reports are so wholesome
Ah shucks, happy to hear that!
Priority roll favouritism for sure. Bad luck on the discovery. Bad luck on the resistance. Andrew luck across the board really. Tainted showing a lot of his value here. I think he is my favourite of the named Nazgul actually, a sneaky all-rounder. A good spellcaster (before LL bonus) with counter-mobility tech that also happens to sometimes win his combats without needing to win the duel. Seeping Decay is almost like the evil horn of Gondor! And if rules accuracy was the primary objective I think you managed that. Only niche thing I would say is, Tainted might not have charged the goat rider because that guy had nowhere else to be really, he was blocking out other warriors. If you charged the infantry warrior and was then charged by the goat rider, if the goat dies to Decay you could have kept your cavalry charge bonus being as you only charged Infantry and the fight resolves against all infantry.
First 2 minutes: "So we messed up a few rules last time but this time we are gonna do it right!" just 4 minutes in: "How do any of these rules work again?" You can do it! I believe in you!
Believing in us is a big mistake.
@@NowForWrathGaming Hey google, how do I edit a youtube comment I regret. 🙃
Just catching up on your reports think you made the right call in this one it was only going one way. Also i apreciate Andrews ruhbarbedwire fence joke 😂
Yeah, there was no need to play it out! Andrew's pretty funny, but I'd never say that to his face. -S
Love that little board 😁
Thanks! It'll show up batrep after next.
Moria was gutted. On a side note I'm glad Cave Drakes, Dragons and the Watcher are still around. Great perspective on the changes we know about so far. Looking forward to seeing what they are bringing out with this new addition, praying to the good Lord that they removed that ridiculous "survival instinct" rule from dragons in this edition. It's seriously one of the canonically dumbest rules in the game. lol
YES- survival instinct needs to GO. I'll be so happy with Moria if that rule is gone.
Love the “Now for Chats”! Y’all have the best banter in the business
Aww shucks!
Love all the rule changes they have done but also very worried about the equipment and lists. If they kill all the list building creativity ill be mega sad but ill wait till ive seen it before judgment
Yeah, that's the thing I'm anticipating the most. I really hope there's still a fair amount of freedom and room for creativity. List building is one of the best parts of the game. We shall see! -Andrew
Quick comment on Legacy. Think of the MESBG range as clothes in a closet. The closet doesn’t change size. The only way to add NEW clothes, is to get rid of some old ones. Moreover, we’ve heard a thousand times from players over the past years, “Is this game dead?” “Does GW still support this game?” GW responds with, “Absolutely! In fact we’re spending all this time creating a new edition and have a bunch of new models to release.” The community’s response to that is baffling. Let’s stay positive and cheers to the new edition and growth of the game!
Yep, I agree pretty much completely. Glad our game is getting some refreshment. In a perfect world, we could have that AND no legacy models, but I think it's more realistic to have to drop some models, a fair amount of them even, to make room for what they've already announced AND future releases. -Andrew
Always happy to hear your thoughts! A couple thoughts and observations: Firstly, don't believe Resolve works the way you were describing. Unlike most heroic actions, it does say its effects occur immediately, but that's in order to give you the Resistance to Magic even if you lose priority, so you don't need to activate to get it. That's the same in the current edition. Other than that, it just says that models that are 6" away from the Hero who called it get the free die, so I believe you don't need to keep tabs on who was close and who wasn't at the time of calling the action. An interesting observation is that, when you look at the leaked table of contents, there is no section for alliances. I believe this pretty much settles it, no alliances, we're getting pure legendary legions. I'm fine with that, though I know some people who don't like it. I believe they can give us enough diversity even in restricted armies... but we'll see if they actually pull it off. Finally, the one change I don't like, is how courage is represented. I felt that the math involved for a courage test wasn't complex at all, and it was an elegant and tidy system. Now we have Drain Courage that "worsens" your courage, so 5+ goes to 6+ (and the fact that they need to explain this on the spell goes to show how clunky it is IMO). Then you also have Aura of Dismay which gives a -1 penalty to the courage roll. So that's two different types of effects on courage. We'll have to see which way Harbinger goes. And finally, how will Blades of the Dead work? I swear to god, if they make Blades of the Dead so that their defence is 10-courage, which would effectively be the same as the old system, and just reintroduce the same math that they removed from the courage test, but in a more clunky way for this, I'll riot.
Interesting thoughts on Courage. Did you feel the same way about shooting? It’d be like for all shooting you need a total of 6 to hit. Take your shoot value + D6. If it totals 6, it’s a hit. If you half move, -1 to your shoot value. I think having those systems align makes sense to me.
@@Competentetyler You know what, I like this. The reason why its so good, is you can say that your shoot value can never go below 0. And in order to hit, you roll a d6 and to the result + Sv. What this means is that we no longer have the silly problems we have right now with the Shade, where we don't know if it's actually impossible to hit, because it gives a -2 modifier to someone who hits on a 5+ or 6+. If instead of giving them a modifier, you give them -1 to their shoot value, and shoot value can never be less than 0. You solve all these problems, and you make it so that they always hit on a 6.
Good to hear about resolve. In re-reading it, I could see your point, though I wish it was clearer. And yeah, how army building will work is the big thing I'm holding my breath for. I hope it's still got plenty of room for creativity. I don't mind the courage thing since I think it just saves us a step. "I'm courage 3 so I need a 7+" is a step we usually get to anyway, I think. But I see what you mean about multiple things affecting courage in different ways. We'll see if blades of the dead exists!
Gkad to hear your guy's thoughts on the new changes. Look forward to the next report
Good perspectives here. I think the community has been too sulky. I want to add that I 1) love updated minis and 2) fear loss of flexibility in future list building.
Instill Fear is in, its another magical power that just adds a special rule we don't understand. Affected models gain 'Fearful' until the end of the turn.
Ah thanks! I missed that!
Good to see you guys back, i noticed i hadnt seen you pop up in my feed for a while so i was worried for a moment!
Busy times! We'll have a batrep up next week.
There is something wrong with this playlist. Doesn't matter how much I refresh, still not getting new videos. Guys, can you check that your camera is working and turned on?
Haha we're working on it! We'll have a chatty video this week and then a batrep next week. Been busy times and we're saving some of our strength for the new edition, but we've got a few in the hopper that just need editing!
@@NowForWrathGaming Looking forward to it! I might even buy a mini or two... hundred.
@@sog242 Oh yeah, my wallet is about to hurt I think...
letsss GGOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
We want to see defenders of helms deep vs isengard.
That would be fun! We don't have any painted Lothlorien but we could use Rivendell as stand ins... hmm
Really enjoying your battle reports, keep up the good work. Love the terrain, where did you get the ruins and mat from?
The ruins are 3D prints! A mix of sources- Darkfire designs and... somewhere on Thingiverse! I think the mat is from Gamemats.eu Thank you!
Rhubarb gin is good
Hail Andrew!
Andrew, you're a lot more chipper and positive with your dice now which is good to see! Don't think i heard any of the 'Andrew dice rolling sighs' in this one!😏
Haha, not much to sigh about in this one.
Glad to see an Aragorn Elessar game! Thanks for the content guys keep it up, love the channel!
Thanks, glad you enjoy the channel!
Black gate taking max bows with axes is actually pretty good to counter Rohan’s skirmishing
Finish your games boi be gracious and let your opponent enjoy their victory. No need to be so competitive in a Lil battle report.
So, Andrew (the guy who won) here, and I think it's probably more "competitive" to insist on finishing a game that's definitely over just to find out how many victory points I can scrape out of it, than it is to just say "yeah we get it, I won, we can enjoy the rest of our day now". In a friendly game, I don't have a ton of fun continuing to slaughter my opponent after I've already clearly won, so I don't see a lot of reason to play it out. Now I get that the VIEWER might want to see it play out, and that's fair, but I can assure you that I wouldn't be "enjoying my victory" if we had continued to play this one out. I won, that's cool, I don't need to keep cleaning up dwarves and watch my opponent pull models off the board. I don't get any satisfaction out of that outside of maybe a tournament where I'm playing for the podium. But we do talk about this and whether or not we should play these things out for the viewer's sake. But in the end, we're just two guys having fun recording our games, and we don't really want to kill an hour wrapping up a not-super-fun game. We'll often play a turn or two more than we would if there were no cameras around, but that's about all. They can't all be compelling nailbiters, and this wasn't going to become one if we kept playing, so we decided to call it, and I think we'll stick with that philosophy going forward. We have jobs and lives and this is just a fun project, so I don't think we're going to do something unfun for the sake of our little channel, even if the channel is important to us. It's all about having fun and bringing people in to join in on the fun, but us having fun is top priority, and we had all the fun we could with this one. Hope that's understandable! Most games aren't like this one, but it was totally over. We'll think about disclaimer or something for future games that end abnormally early so you can just skip it if that's not to your liking.
Steven here! (Guy who got destroyed). Andrew and I have been playing together for many many wonderful years now. We allow each other plenty of grace- mostly grace in victory! Appreciate the comment, but I assure you there were no hard feelings here on either part- just cold logic and valuing each other's time :)
I routinely struggle to put together KD lists that I could feel confident running. As Steve mentioned at the beginning, “Little bit of an uphill battle.” Should be the name of their Army Bonus.
They definitely CAN do well- got second at Nova! But boy they always just seem good "on paper" to me. Shame cause I really love them. Hoping the new edition gives them some love.
@@NowForWrathGaming This is true! Maybe it’s a scale thing? I was going to say, they excel in Killy scenarios and there really aren’t enough of them. But you just played Assassination and boom! No Cav No Spears No Magic That’s a lot to overcome.
@@Competentetyler Andrew and I are both thinking dwarves and elves bromance is a thing- expensive troops but strong! But yeah, they have a lot of strengths but a lot of weaknesses. There's too many lists with diminished weaknesses and similar strengths that it leaves KD sorta feeling lackluster still.
Great video and content guys! High quality microphones, dice tray inclusion, nice models and terrain :) I would say that I agree with the notion that its just a smash and roll dice - largely MESBG has nothing to do with dice if played well - see this batrep for example where poor dice rolling did not necessarily mean losing with pits of DG ua-cam.com/video/kTkwsKSx5D4/v-deo.html. Also, the entire point of pits is the auto-priority (otherwise its just a d5 leader at 215 points with a load of orcs) which I know has already been mentioned, Im just thinking with your level of outstanding production quality, likeable personalities and beautiful minis you could have some of the best batreps out there!
Thank you for the kind words- you're right! I had that pits army in my possession for all of 1 hour before playing it so just totally forgot about the rule! I'm eager to get them back on the table and not make the same mistake!
Not a lot of anything except rolling dice on this one. The ‘priorkity’ thing grates after a while. YMMV.
Let us know if there's something you'd like to see more of in the batreps! We try to hit the variety where we can. We'll keep the priorkity thing in mind, but we're not even thinking about it now :) We'll keep it in mind!
@@NowForWrathGaming Generally really like your reports. This game seemed a bit odd though, it was almost as if the video started half way through the scenario as the forces were literally on top of each other, probably down to the scenario, can't say I've ever come across it. Personally I prefer scenarios where there is some movement and cat & mouse type stuff, but again, YMMV.
Yeah that's fair. Just the situation with the scenario and matchup, I guess. Helm wants to avoid Azog and it's not that hard with Azog's big base. And yeah, we both pretty much deployed to the center since we both wanted to be on/near objectives, so a pretty simple game of clash and roll dice. We're going to bring magic back soon, we just wanted a break from it. Next report won't have magic but the one after will, so should be a bit spicier.
Play your iron hills!
Coming up next (as Erebor Reclaimed)!
Always loved the channel guys, you should play arathorns last stand with a bunch of rangers from the new angmar book
I'd like to give it a shot. We might not get to squeeze it in before the new edition happens, at which time we'll definitely be in "TRY ALL THE STUFF THAT CHANGED" mode, but as a Grey Company lover, rangers are always on my mind and will surely return, hopefully with Arathorn!
Always looking forward to your newest content - Please keep it up 👏
Steve’s dice finally getting their Andrew rolls 😂 The Throwing Spears are a perfect counter to the Hunter Orcs. The Pits LL gives you the free priority to protect against that a bit, don’t think I saw it used though.
Dwarfs!
Coming up next!
Incase u guys were unaware, azog is a hero of legend and has a 12" stand fast that effects orc heroes. Pits of dol guldur also has an auto win priority where the opponent cannot call moves to counter
We did get the standfast right but YEP TOTALLY forgot about the auto-win priority.
Guess we'll just put a big ol' asterisk on this one, eh Andrew? -S
NO, I WIN AND YOU CAN'T TAKE THIS AWAY FROM ME
😂😂😂
I recognise those Royal Guards from the blog before you ever had a UA-cam!
They're definitely from my early days of painting! I was just telling Andrew how I wish I had the time to redo all of my Rohan- my newer paint jobs are way better!
@@NowForWrathGaming well if you get the new Rohan scuplts you will be able to do just that! I'm hoping they release a new plastic Royal Guard sprue!
Great to see the last throes of the old-school Shade!
Welp that was outright paranormal (yet again). You guys are capturing paranormal/psi phenomena on camera over here with Andrew's dice. It does make one contemplate the value of methods to mitigate the woes of being on the receiving end of "dice spikes" like Cirdan's Aura of Dismay/Ench Blades, Lord of the West with Banner or mounted killing machines like Elendil who can heroic combat chain-kill a lot of stuff FAST (can't get lucky if you're DEAD)
Haunted dice are real!
Andrew what did you do in a past life to have such horrible dice rolls? Also I quite like the theme of your list, especially with Rings of Power currently running. Seemed like a fun combo to run
Terrible, terrible things! It was a rough one haha. But yeah, I loved the list and theme. In a normal dice game, it also would have done great I think.
Come on you elves! edit did not expect a draw
Yeah, I thought it was over. You just never know in this game.
Andrew, you don't roll the dice with any conviction, your dice just seem to flop into the tray!😝It's a tentative, expecting bad dice kind of rolling style. Maybe experiment with changing things up!? 🙏 Steven hurls those dice in there with strength and intention! 💪
I'll have to give that a shot. Maybe a dice cannon...
Quite sad you didn't bring zagdush to joing the the dushes 😂
I need to run a list based upon the law firm of 'dush, 'dush, and 'gush. Orc law.
@@NowForWrathGaming I think they maybe a bit specialised and need to expand into uruk and spider law too
Bye bye shade, we had a great time with you 😭
Angmar is so hateable
this is way too high quality to have this few veiws.
Thank you :) Means a lot!
Thought the old shade is no longer valid after the release of rise of angmar. In the book it says it replaces the profile
That's why this was the last hurrah! Recorded just before the new book came out :)
Agree the old Shade has been replaced by the new one as stated in the designers note in the Rise of Angmar book.
@@nikmad4 No disagreement here. This was recorded many weeks ago- hence it's the farewell to the old shade!
@@NowForWrathGaming makes perfect sense in that case
Thank god for that!
Good riddance to the duel penalty aura in the new edition. Andrew my dear, have you tried float testing your dice? Have you tried it a second time, in holy water?
There will come a time, when all hope has faded, when Andrew, son of Andrew's Dad, will take up his handful of dice, and roll reasonably well.
@@NowForWrathGaming"But it is not this day! This day we FLUB!" - probably Aragorn, when piloted by Andrew.
1,000pt game, 30 minute Bat Rep?! You guys are animals. Can’t wait to watch!
We're here for a good time, not a long time.
@@NowForWrathGaming 9:18 I think this would have been one of those rare applications for a Heroic Strength by Elendil. He’s base S5, so it’s a guarantee to end at S6. This would avoid him being Knocked Prone on the hurl as the hurled model would hit the S6 model and immediately end (not being passed through).
That's a great tip I hadn't thought of. That would have been smart! Something I'll keep in mind for next time, thanks!
@@NowForWrathGaming okay, maybe not. I guess your Mount still takes an S6 hit along with Rider… Ugh, when will Heroic Strength show its worth.
Ah, yeah, and either way the horse would take a S6 hit (as would Elendil), so you're probably losing the horse no matter what. Even if the rules would say you're not technically knocked prone automatically.