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TP&R Podcast
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Politics and Religion. We’re not supposed to talk about that, right? Wrong! We only say that nowadays because the loudest, most extreme voices have taken over the whole conversation. Well, we‘re taking it back! If you’re dying for some dialogue instead of all the yelling; if you know it’s okay to have differences without having to hate each other; if you believe politics and religion are too important to let ”the screamers” drown out the rest of us and would love some engaging, provocative and fun conversations about this stuff, then ”Talkin‘ Politics & Religion Without Killin‘ Each Other” is for you!
WHAT'S NEXT For America After The 2024 Election?
How should we respond to the election? Fight? Surrender? Or is there another way? Let's "Meet the Majority" and see if we can figure it out!
As part of our "Meet the Majority" series, this is a candid conversation on ideological differences, election surprises, and friendship. In this episode, Corey sits down with his long-time friend Brandon to explore their differing political views and the implications of recent elections. Corey explains the importance of maintaining relationships and having open dialogue despite political differences. Brandon, a staunch Republican, shares his life story, professional background, and family history. He discusses his views on national security, the shortcomings of the far left, and the influence of Trumpism on American politics and the church. Both Corey and Brandon delve into the complexities of being in the political middle today, their concerns about the future, and the need for more constructive discourse. The conversation highlights the importance of listening and understanding different perspectives to foster better relationships and navigate the current political landscape.
00:49 Meet the Majority Series: Background and Purpose
03:42 Brandon's Background and Political Views
07:19 Discussion on Liberalism and Conservatism
11:34 The Middle Ground in Politics
17:11 Concerns About Trump and the Future of the Republican Party
26:28 Impact of Trumpism on the American Church
28:24 Debating Presidential Impact and Religious Influence
30:26 Supreme Court and the Conservative Legal Movement
33:10 Navigating Political Differences and Building Relationships
37:25 Reflecting on Political Identity and Middle Ground
50:08 Concluding Thoughts and Future Conversations
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Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other is part of The Democracy Group, a network of podcasts that examines what’s broken in our democracy and how we can work together to fix it.
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You can find Corey on all the socials @coreysnathan such as
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As part of our "Meet the Majority" series, this is a candid conversation on ideological differences, election surprises, and friendship. In this episode, Corey sits down with his long-time friend Brandon to explore their differing political views and the implications of recent elections. Corey explains the importance of maintaining relationships and having open dialogue despite political differences. Brandon, a staunch Republican, shares his life story, professional background, and family history. He discusses his views on national security, the shortcomings of the far left, and the influence of Trumpism on American politics and the church. Both Corey and Brandon delve into the complexities of being in the political middle today, their concerns about the future, and the need for more constructive discourse. The conversation highlights the importance of listening and understanding different perspectives to foster better relationships and navigate the current political landscape.
00:49 Meet the Majority Series: Background and Purpose
03:42 Brandon's Background and Political Views
07:19 Discussion on Liberalism and Conservatism
11:34 The Middle Ground in Politics
17:11 Concerns About Trump and the Future of the Republican Party
26:28 Impact of Trumpism on the American Church
28:24 Debating Presidential Impact and Religious Influence
30:26 Supreme Court and the Conservative Legal Movement
33:10 Navigating Political Differences and Building Relationships
37:25 Reflecting on Political Identity and Middle Ground
50:08 Concluding Thoughts and Future Conversations
We're on Patreon! Join the community:
www.patreon.com/politicsandreligion
It would mean so much if you could leave us a review:
ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics
Talkin' Politics & Religion Without Killin' Each Other is part of The Democracy Group, a network of podcasts that examines what’s broken in our democracy and how we can work together to fix it.
Please support our sponsor Meza Wealth Management: www.mezawealth.com
You can find Corey on all the socials @coreysnathan such as
bsky.app/profile/coreysnathan.bsky.social
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Someone I love voted for a different candidate at the top of the ticket. Can we still have a healthy, loving relationship? Can we still have any sort of relationship? Even when we disagree about something we feel so passionately about? It would mean so much if you could leave us a review: ratethispodcast.com/goodfaithpolitics In this episode, Corey’s lifelong friend, Natalie, joins the program ...
A Republican, a Democrat and an Independent walk into a podcast: TP&R x Faithful Politics
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Q: "Are you an Evangelical?" A: "Yes. A bad one!" w/ Prof. Tommy Givens of Fuller Seminary
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What the Hell Happened?
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Jim Wallis on The False White Gospel: Rejecting Christian Nationalism
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What Happens if Trump Wins?
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Liberal analysis is full of crap. There’s no common sense getaways
Life isn't easy and the truth is that it is complex and easy to become lost. The traditional Christianity is a box form of following the church community and or leader. Don't make waves or question authority. I tried to fit in and never made it. A curse and a blessing. Having to figure out who I am and what I was born into is not easy work. I consider myself to practice presence which is in each moment. The lessons in life are endless and there isn't a play book that can be easily ingested for the long haul. We sell out by buying into patriarchy. We can attend a church and ascribe to a path but stay open. The way is within the mess. Some aspects may appear yet become confusing with the changing environment. I have found Eckhart Tolle's books to be worthy of continual study as is the course in miracles along with the traditional stories of Jesus's examples. Then, there is the great teachings of the Buddha. The earth is full of diversity and God is in all of it. We are the sorter. We must constantly beware of our own shadow and the propensity to project outward without consciousness. The only way to prevent evil is to know our own goodness, darkness, and in-between. It's all hard work. Never ending. Knowing the answer appears to cause more harm than not.
From having listened to a number of conversations coming from thinking christians/evangelicals ... I've come to understand the issue is ... 'we're in a religious war against the evil/satanic other'. We have to call it for what it is. Christian sects have become radical/conservative/dangerous. We have to Name it and explain that all the language is about dominance by radical christianity and it's unacceptable.
@BirthingBetterSkills It's such a quandary for folks like me who believe in the Jesus of Scripture and see so many who live out their faith. And yet much of American Evangelicalism seems to be more defined by incidents like this one with the PCA.
@@politicsandreligion thank you for your reply. When it boils down ... there are Global Truths and we need to acknowledge and grow them within our diversity rather than using distorted mind beliefs 1. We are ALL one humanity. We all blink, cough, and can tighten our muscles. Any woman can get pregnant by any man. Any child can be brought up in any culture, religion, language, part of the world. We use Distorted Mind Beliefs to deny and suppress this Truth and see ‘Us’ and ‘Other’. 2. We are ALL born naked. Every Woman knows this. We are made to feel shame or unsafe due to Distorted Mind Beliefs and denied the Truth 3. We are ALL born equal because the sun shines on each of us. Distorted Mind Beliefs deny and suppress this Truth. 4. We ALL live on one planet shared with the Commons (Waters, Airs, Soils), All Species and Each Others. We use Distorted Mind Beliefs as a reason to kill one another, The Commons and Species.
Angry huh ?
@navykiller100 "disconcerting" would be a more accurate way to describe it. As a Christian and a conservative, it's disconcerting to see central values of Christianity and conservatism deprioritized in favor of Trumpism.
Just watched this, and what really makes things worse is the bubble you live in.
@navykiller100 Curious what leads you to make that conclusion?
@@politicsandreligion You claim to be a Christian, yet you are so consumed with your hate for Trump that you forget to ask yourself one thing...What would Jesus think. Trump is far from perfect, but most if not all of the attacks on him whether they be from the law, media, or personal are 90% political. You know this, yet you are so angry and vindictive towards Trump and his supporters that you spin everything to make your point. I can see the corruption on both sides and I can understand why someone would vote for Kamala even though my opinion of her is no better than yours of Trump. I couldn't stand Biden, but I didn't go to social media blasting him or his supporters, I waited 4 years and hoped for a different outcome. Live and let live brother and God bless,
@@navykiller100 Yes, I hate the words, actions and character of Donald Trump. He provides daily examples of anti-moral behavior - that which Scripture testifies against. However, I think you're mistaken with regard to how I view those who've voted for Trump. I make a distinction between Trump himself and those who've voted for him. In fact, we're having a series of conversations on this program called "Meet the Majority" with people I know and love who voted for Trump. One is already up if you wanted to check out a few minutes of it. But was there something I said in this one that indicated any sort of hatred I harbor for Trump supporters?
@@politicsandreligion Your hate is clear to me brother as my dislike must be clear to you, there is a difference. You have religion in the name of your podcast, I commented because it seems like you are being hypocritical. Am I wrong ? No big deal man, we are all broken, but there is a great peace knowing that believing means we will be fixed. God bless
@@navykiller100Did you get a chance to check out any of the "Meet the Majority" convo? It's with a dear friend of mine who's very supportive of Trump. Again, I hate Trump's words, actions and character based on my Biblically formed values. And sometimes folks who support Trump personalize my critiques of him as if I'm criticizing them. So again, I have ethical objections to Trump's words and behavior. But I don't conflate that individual's actions and character with those who happened to vote for him. Just check out a few min of my conversation with Natalie and let me know if it still seems I hate all Trump supporters. ...Or not. I just figured it might help to clarify what my actual views are.
Kudos to Ms. Stewart for mentioning Dominionism and R.J. Rushdoony. They are two of American religion’s best-kept secrets.
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More families should hear their kids say, "We are going to Hell, because we attend the wrong church." Maybe then the apolitical population will wake up to what's happening.
The Party of God is ruining America with its twisted relationships and beliefs. Then there is Christian vs Christian regarding scripture vs life, which seems to go nowhere overall. If it did, perhaps we wouldn't be in this position. The Evangelicals and other fundamentalists chose power over decency. What a mess!
Since I couldn't come hear you Wednesday night, I have now listened to 2 podcasts and have loved them both. They have broadened my insights and I am thankful for that. I like that you try to show both sides of an issue. I think the world of Tommy Givens, but so I enjoyed hearing how God has worked in Tommy's life to bring him to where he is today in his thinking.
As I listened to Tommy talk about not using the instruments of the state to coerce people toward Christian values & specific policies, but rather sharing them & being openly attentive to those shared by folks who aren't Christians, I felt myself both cheering & questioning how would that play out on issues like immigration & access to abortion services. As a Jew, a non-Christian, I wonder if the identification of being a "Christian" even has legitimacy. Folks who self-ID as Christian seems to me to be as diverse in their values, politics & social practices as people with brown eyes.
Just curious. Why was NT Wright so controversial?
@ronaldnathan3548 It has to do with his willingness to question orthodoxy. His interpretations of Paul/Paul’s letters in particular have met with a lot of outrage and pearl clutching from the likes of John MacArthur and other fundamentalists who see themselves as the sole arbiter of not only biblical interpretation, but even what questions can be explored.
Is hate the thing that binds all of the diverse Evangelical denominations together?
@wegder That's a completely understandable observation. Many people's malice for a perceived adversary (i.e. "the left") becomes the main, if not the only thing that dictates their votes and much else, even when Scripture is at odds with what they've come to support.
I would tell you where you're wrong about a lot of what you're saying but you're a Democrat and I know you won't listen anyway
@davidsturges3295 Actually, that's incorrect on both fronts. The fact that I opposed Donald Trump's candidacy does not mean I'm a Democrat. Additionally, whether one votes for a D has no bearing on their ability or willingness to engage in conversations in good faith. So I'd be happy to share what my political leanings are as well as my theological convictions if you cared to have that conversation.
@politicsandreligion okay you're just repeating the Democrats talking points thus my assumption that you were Democrat. January 6th was not a insurrection. Criminal behavior? Yes an insurrection? no. The easiest most simplest proof of this is the fact that nobody brought guns.
@@davidsturges3295 I'll grant that I'm not repeating the talking points that have been broadly accepted by folks like Dan Bongino, Mark Levin, Tucker, Hannity, V.D. Hansen, etc. So, many of my friends who prefer pundits and personalities within that sphere will often wrongly generalize and then mischaracterize my views as part of "the left" or some such nonsense. If you like, I'd be happy to share some of the thinkers, journalists, etc that I read, listen to and watch. Just let me know and we can discuss. Re: Jan 6, that's merely one event within a larger pattern of the disintegration of our Constitutional order that concerns me. To your point, I think we can agree that there was widespread criminal behavior on Jan 6, 2021. Can we agree that the group that was engaging in criminal activity was attempting to disrupt the counting of the electoral votes and thus impose by force their will on the results of the election?
People voted for Trump because they remember his term fondly. On top of that The population has been over hammered with trump bad and hoax after hoax about him they are sick of it. Normal people do not buy the "orange Hitler" argument and the prosecutions of trump did not help either. People began to perceive Democrats as a threat to democracy because of all the drumpf hoaxes and eventually several criminal prosecution most of which were indistinguishably from banana Republic behavior this is why people who's number one issue was saving demuycracy broke 50-50 for the evil orange man in exit polls. They feel trump is genuine and being honest about stuff, meanwhile many democrats are doing very similar things to trump and on top of that they are lecturing you and have a holier than thou attitude. The Dems did about everything you could possibly do you deserve to lose an election, including years of gaslighting about Bidens obvious cognitive decline
The stock market is not objectively awesome it's pretty mediocre adjusted for inflation
@rylandavis2976 Fair enough. My main critique is that many Trump supporters want to pretend the markets or the economy as a whole fell off a cliff, when that's simply not the case. Yes, there was inflation exacerbated by some of the Biden Admin's policies - in particular the recovery act that was past within his first 100 days which messed up some basic supply/demand balances. But taken as a whole, so many factors that make up our economy held up rather well. At the very least, it wasn't the economic apocalypse the Trump campaign painted it to be.
@politicsandreligion for a lot of people the inflation on its own is pretty much unforgivable. How good the economy is by any metric is meaningless if your everyday people are still feeling squeezed or have been getting squeezed for the last few years. But imo this is only like 1/3 of the reason why trump won.
@rylandavis2976 Absolutely. As I've been talking to a number of people I know and love who voted for Trump, inflation was foremost in their minds. GDP growth, stock market records, etc is just white noise to somebody like my own 21 yo son. He cares about gas prices. So I can definitely appreciate that. I can also appreciate and honestly can relate to an increasing distaste for how many people perceive the left (at least broadly speaking). One of my best friends (who happens to be 2nd generation Latino) is just sick and tired of feeling like people are telling him what to think and believe. Like, just because his mom is from Puerto Rico, he should think a certain way about immigrants and the border, etc. He's sick of all of it. So he voted against what he sees as the woke left as much if not more than he voted for Trump.
@@politicsandreligion thankfully, wokeness is on the way out. There are already signs of the Dem establishment abandoning it.
@@rylandavis2976 I believe that's correct. Some of the most robust critiques are coming from left of center thinkers eg. Yascha Mounk's book THE IDENTITY TRAP
Jesus said to "LOVE your enemies" It's EASY to love those who are like you. Not hearing much love...
@222jojo 1) I don't see people who voted for Trump as my enemies. 2) Love does not mean we need to agree on everything. 3) If you'd like to go to Scripture, let's go, baby! I'm a Bible-believing, Scripture-loving Christian. So just say the word, my man!
@@politicsandreligion Thanks, but its NOT about scripture (IMHO) its about actions or fruit. The Pharisees who crucified Jesus were well versed in scripture. There's a lack of love ON BOTH SIDES and it's become easy to demonize people. We can disagree and still be respectful and kind to each other and I think a HEALTHY society understands our differences actually IS our strength as a United States of America. GODSPEED to you!
@@222jojo "The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness and self-control." And while I would never claim to be fully formed in all of the fruits of the Spirit. I also don't claim to be "the Chosen One" as Trump did while also brazenly exhibiting the very opposite of every one of those virtues, as Trump's daily words and actions do. So again, my critique is reserved specifically for Trump himself and NOT those who happened to vote for him. I bring this up because your original comment and then your follow up reply indicate I can't critique Trump individually without also having love for others. What I hope is clear is that we're both in favor of the ability to have different positions without generalizing, mischaracterizing and vilifying those we disagree with - including confusing our disagreements for an absence of love.
@@politicsandreligion NEVER said you can't critique Trump. As believers in Jesus Christ as OUR Lord and Saviour's...we ARE brothers in Christ, THAT, we can hopefully agree upon.
@222jojo Indeed. Let us remember Jesus included both a Zealot and a tax collector within the 12 disciples. A Zealot and tax collector! Talk about political differences. There's hope for us yet!
Former Democrat that voted for Trump here. The thing about Jan 6 is that Capitol police shot and killed an unarmed Trump supporting woman. Trump supporters didn’t kill anyone. Nothing was set on fire, no buildings were destroyed. Trump and many others involved were criminally charged. Meanwhile, leftists looted vandalized and set entire cities on fire during the George Floyd so-called peaceful protests yet no one was charged. Perception is reality and the perception is that leftists get away with burning and looting while conservatives are held accountable. Trump and his supporters handed over the reigns of power and walked away. That should have been the end of it, but then the democrats proceeded with years of lawsuits against their political enemy. Thanks for the video.
Bad economy, insidious border invasion, woke policies (trans, etc.), Harris is a Marxist, etc. That's what happened.
Listening to you for 5 minutes I cannot determine what values you stand for so just like Kamala. That's why you lose!
I'm 12 minutes into this video and I can already see that you're so incredibly tone deaf that you're going to have a hard time ever understanding why Donald Trump got elected. Kamala was a terrible candidate. She was an empty suit. The left ran a terrible campaign. Trump can be a bombastic, lying a-hole. But sometimes you need an a-hole to get the job done. EDIT: fixed voice to text spelling/punctuation errors.
@grammardragon8425 Thanks for watching. You make some fair points and I will be spending time trying to understand by talking to people I love who voted for Trump. I could do without the personal attacks that you started with. That aside, I take your point and, again, do hope to understand this all better.
You got worked up because you hate Trump regardless of what he does or has done. The hatred has taken over people's lives.
@KA-gk6jg while I understand the assertion, it's backwards. Yes, I've come to hate Trump's words, actions and character. I didn't start by hating Trump and then view his words and actions through that lens. What he says and what he does on any given day is misaligned with my values as a Christian who believes in the authority of Scripture. But it's important to state, that I take great care not to assign my view of Trump onto all those who've chosen to vote for him. Some of my dearest friends and relatives have. So I'm just trying to understand their decisions better and allow for the fact that we can arrive at different conclusions.
I don’t think when Kamala Harris said she wouldn’t had done anything different didn’t help and probably hurt her. My first thought was the 13 servicemen and women and many civilians killed during the 2021 Afghanistan withdrawal. How did that terrorist get through and what could we have done to prevent that.
What drove your decision?...you think everyone else is wrong.
The United States is NOT a democracy
@joemoore8047 Yeah, Joe. Got it. It's a Democratic Republic, a Constitutional order, which we discuss. But thanks for dropping in. (And now you can correct me for ending a sentence with a preposition or some other such hot air.)
25 seconds in and you abandoned your entire premise. Very disappointing.
@EarnestWilliamsGeofferic that's a fair complaint. I was expressing frustration and, ideally, could have been more restrained - at least at the top.
Heard it best this way ... yes, people chose their self-interest, i.e., Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs (housing, food, security, etc.) over Brat summer/vibes/identity based politics.
@Kai-tq6vl Yeah, at the end of the day, those who ended up determining the majority voted for who they believed made the best case to deliver peace and prosperity.
Democracy happened, accept you are wrong, not so hard if you have any ability to listen and learn. However, I have noticed that is not to be assumed for brainwashed individuals
Woke happened
Yep, totally fair. Fwiw, some of the most robust critiques of the excesses of cancel culture/wokeism, etc have been coming from left of center writers and thinkers, eg. Yascha Mounk's 2023 book THE IDENTITY TRAP.
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If you would be open to having a respectful and reasonable conversation with someone who disagrees and is just as passionate against the Dems as you are Trump, than I would love to. I am also a Christian and love the Jews and Israel. That would also inform why I voted him.
@@callforsalt2624 Yes, I'm certainly open to that. Thank you for the invitation. In the coming weeks, I'll be sharing conversations I'll be having with friends and family who voted for Trump. We're calling it "Meet the Majority" and I'd be interested in your thoughts.
It's not that hard. Inflation and the invasion of illegal aliens.
@carlosgonzales1444 That's makes sense, Carlos. At the end of the day, a lot of folks are just looking for peace and prosperity. And in this cycle a majority of voters thought Trump made a better case for that than Harris.
You spent this video saying you were wrong because the people believed the wrong things.....which isn't really an admission of phallacy. You still will not acknowledge the egregious faults in your own candidate. You still repeat narratives about Trump that are very dubious at best. But most of all you couch your arguments in morality. Morality is subjective and interpretive. Neither party has the moral highground and neither party exemplifies positive core values. For literally every thing about Trump that you so vehemently hate, I can point out an equal quality in a candidate you have voted for willingly. You still have alot of reflection to do. A LOT.
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Who left USA world sherrif ??? Not OUR JOB No other nation in the world does this wagging its finger like mom n dad said were in charge. Yet you all seem to think you need to go to Ukraine Afghanistan Iraq Syria Lebanon Israel nigeria Egypt libya ........ On n on how can you f****** defend this
Maybe quit talking at people and start listening to me. The democrats have become very illiberal. The democrats have become out of touch. Keep trashing the voters. Keep talking down to Americans. Matthew 7:3. You need to do some self reflection before you judge others. Perhaps voters can't support a candidate that wants to lock up its opponent. Wants to shut down free speech. Wants to arrest and imprison parents for voicing their thoughts at a school board meeting. A candidate that wants to pack the supreme court, remove the filibuster, spy on Americans with illicit FISA warrants or change any of the rules or norms to win. If those Americans you trash and look down on are "bad people" ( I know you said not all of them are but that implies some of them are) what are you for voting for all that? Nothing I've typed is disputed and it is what you voted for. What are you then?
Biden is essentially a failed president and will be viewed in history as catastrophic. His main pitch was to be an antidote to trump but on this day Donald Trump has never been stronger and more popular.
Hw could you be SOOO Wrong???!!!!
I want to express gratitude and make a suggestion. First…Thank you so much for this episode. It was cathartic for me. My wife and I have really been trying not to freak the #%€£ out about this election and we’ve been doing a good job. But it was nice to hear you let fly with some of what we are feeling. Second…Like you, I’ve been thinking alot about values, both before and since this election. How could this be? How could people that I love and would trust my life to, choose to vote for DT? Are our values really that different? Or is it that they simply do not know about DT what I know. When I use the word “know” I don’t just mean the mental state of having heard or being aware of certain facts. I’m using it as a stronger form of the word “belief”, almost as one would use faith, without the positive connotations. For example, I KNOW with all my heart and mind that DT doesn’t have one tenth of the love for this country that he has for himself and that every decision he makes is colored by that truth. Through whatever differences in experience, media consumption, or acts of careful discernment we have undergone, we have come to “know” different things about these candidates, such that even with very similar values, we take different actions. Sorry for the rambling explanation. Here’s the suggestion. Ask Trump voters who you know to be good people that you love, what, if anything, gives them pause about the fact that they voted for Donald Trump. I think this will tell you so much more about them, and lead to so much greater understanding, than asking them why they voted for him. Maybe that could be a show. Thank you and take care.
@@davidfowler5546 Thanks, David. I'm grateful that this resonates with you and your wife. And I really appreciate your suggestion. We will be doing a series of conversations with folks who either voted for Trump, 3rd party or wrote in a candidate other than Harris. I'm going to try and take the cue of folks like Monica Guzman and David Brooks who've written and spoken extensively on the value of leading with curiosity in such conversations. What I'm hoping to glean is a better understanding of each person's story, such as when they began to develop certain political leanings, what led to these political beliefs and more about who they are at a deeper level. I'm just trying to see beyond this one vote in order to see the human being. Thanks again for your comment and suggestion. It's very helpful.
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Kamala was a poor candidate. I don't know how she outspent Trump, lost, and ended up in the red. Horrible campaign and weak candidate. Also, the mainstream media didn't help with their chastising of important segments of the electorate. People remember and get resentful when millionaires call them names.
Just finished... thank you SO much for this... beautiful stuff.
@@DawnCarey-uz4eq Really appreciate the encouragement, Dawn. Thank you!
I really like this video. I voted for Harris because Trump is too destructive and risky to roll the dice on. I wish he had been k***ed and I hate the GOP. But OH MY GOODNESS the progressive left has been lost in lala land for while, and has maintained an echo chamber by demonizing and purging wrongthink. As an example of how ridiculous it can be, I have been banned from a supposedly neutral reddit sub titled "FoodForThought" because I said that "history does not have a side and progress as defined by the left is not inevitable". In my opinion, the left fell in love with a fantasy where: 1) Progressive priorities, which are disproportionately based on identity politics with little regard for class or context, are somehow objectively superior and anyone disagreeing is evil and should be shunned. 2) The objective moral righteousness of progressive shibboleths meant that victory was guaranteed if people were stubborn enough in pushing them at all costs I am mildly surprised Trump won the popular vote, but not at the result. The democrats ran a campaign based on saving democracy with a candidate who never got above 15% support in the primary. They offered marginal changes while being, as Biden said to the donors who own the DNC, the party of "nothing will fundamentally change". This is a terrible strategy. In a way that should have been obvious if the left had not become allergic to introspection and self criticism (except purity testing). Which to be clear, the reason I liked this video is because you are not doubling down on that allergy. It's fine to be angry, but blaming people who disagree with the left's orthodox worldview is not going to fix this.
Thanks for your extensive, thoughtful comment, John. Much to process.
Curse away!!!! lol
I'm 19 minutes in but want to comment now. Corey, you're answering your own question! ;) I love and appreciate that you want to understand the perspective of the other side, so refreshing and needed. Thanks for your perspective.
I appreciate your perspective. I do think part of what is the problem is that I think it’s an objective fact that we have depth with unprecedented inflation in our life time since Covid. Whose fault that is and who is to blame and even the reason why is up for debate. Your comments around what people feel with the underlying assumption that the economic reality if they just knew economics doesn’t support the idea of massive inflation is pretty patronizing
That's totally fair, Tanner. Candidly, I keep having to catch myself doing that including with people I dearly love. If I want to stay in relationship with them, I really do need to recognize when I am being patronizing and lead more with curiosity than contempt.
@ Thanks for the reply. Otherwise, I listened to the entire video… I appreciated the perspective of humanizing the other side and trying to see them as people rather than data points on a demographic sheet and/or a monolith. The reality (as challenging as it may be) is there are valid reasons to vote both ways. I also think there are a number of things that the Democratic Party has done (emphasis on the party rather than Democratic voters) that have really isolated themselves and put them out of touch with real problems that Americans face. I think there’s no doubt that this is true, now is the right approach to vote Republican… or be part of the solution? And I think the self reflection answer is how many people have tried to and been ostracized? How often has the conclusion of the Democratic Party been that their policies and messaging are wrong and how much is it “the voters” and it’s only “disinformation, propaganda, or being uneducated (thinly veiled assumption of being stupid” that cause people to vote in a different way. I would urge you to think about that. And maybe think that in a country as big as the U.S. that people are very diverse and different and most people are voting for valid reasons that serve their own best interest and that of their communities. What might you change in your own worldview if you start from a place of accepting that be true and working that to what that might mean versus thinking if only others weren’t manipulated by “wrong” information or “uneducated”
I LOVE TP&R being on UA-cam!!! Mazel Tov!!! Given the fact that the election occurred after this was recorded but the episode didn't air, at least on UA-cam, until after the election, I think you would have done well to air the 1st 1/2 & 2nd 1/2 as 2 separate episodes. The 1st 30 minutes don't have anything to do with the blurb, "What does it mean to be a conservative?"
@@ronaldnathan3548 That's a good idea. I think we'll be going into the library and sharing segments from past conversations that are "evergreen." There are definitely a lot of gems with folks like David Brooks, Adam Kinzinger, David French, Anne Applebaum, Lt Col Alexander Vindman and so many others.
@@politicsandreligion Looking fwd to that!
I was hoping to watch a video different from other Leftists. But you all just look down on others.
2 questions: 1) "You all"? 2) Did you watch the whole thing?
That's not at ALL how I perceived his ideas. ???
Why aren’t you asking where the Harris campaign $$ went. How did y’all lose like 15 million voters? Where are 350,000 missing migrant children? Your democratic leaders failed you. The majority of politicians on both sides are so corrupt. Many believe we are in for interesting surprises. You know Trump never lost his security clearances. He is going to release several rounds of classified documents. I need more popcorn! Just to suggest, y’all need to put religion way, way higher on the importance scale. Take Latinos - what religion are they?? Catholic, devout Catholic. So, is a devout Catholic going to vote proabortion? Only if they want a special place in Hell. Don’t ignore specific other reasons that would affect someone’s vote.
You ask some fair questions, Marie. Candidly, I disagree with a couple of your premises. But that's ok. Hopefully we'll be able to explore some of this in future conversations.
You are being lied to entirely about everything. . . . . that is why you got it wrong.