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I reflected most of this in the video. I said it was more rpg first then survival, and how light the survival elements were. I also ultimately recommend the game. I havent seen anybody complaining about the coverage, but if you have examples of what I said being wrong, then tell me. Im always open to feedback and improvement.

There is not a sandbox mode directly, but like other survival games, there is a custom game difficulty option. You can set things like enemy damage, the ability to pacify enemies, player stamina and stats, survival options like weapon durability, time in the shroud, and how long it takes to collect various resources and upgrades.

@@MacEbesGaming Thank you for the quick response, and that's good to know; it looks like a beautiful game to build in. I will probably pick it up when it goes on sale through Steam. It was on sale a while back, but I wasn't sure about it then. I recently got Medieval Dynasty and found I literally spend all my time gathering and building a town. I'm glad it has custom settings, and I'm happy to learn this game does too. And I think this one will be better, because you can custom build the buildings/homes and be a lot more detailed.

They have a lot in common, but overwatch is more ground focused and more dependent on skill/execution of kits vs marvel rivals is more lax allowing for larger variety of movement. Rivals encourages high damage, high mobility of tanks and high healing resulting in more stuff per minute happening, and more decisions able to be made.

I hadn't played overwatch 2 since season 6 (now on season 14), I believe, but my rivals gameplay looks pretty normal. If you check out JWantedL or Shroud playing the game with Bucky or Hawkeye, they do the same thing. Its just kind of how the character plays. A lot of the marvel rival characters are more frantic and disheveled.

I agree, however a lot of complaints of overwatch are coming from its very competitive nature. Not everything needs to be an esport.

Marvel Rivals is already gaining a highly competitive player base, there really isn’t that much going on. Not to mention, in a comp game, every player ideally is going to know all the heroes that are in play, their kits, and how all of their ults work. I disagree entirely.

Can confirm they are real people in open queue, will play more of that match in the review so people can check if they like.

@MacEbesGaming mate... By those words i mention ur gameplay :D

The point is to show the effect that movement options and character kits can have on both games. Its the best way to visually represent how both games feel to me. My full review will dive deeper into the differences, this was just a visual example.

its only like that in shitlo ranks. it doesnt work that way higher up in both games. you point on solo skill expression is stupid af

@ Not an argument

Low T comment from a guy whos dad clearly was not around you like Trash garabo Overwatch thats fine you have bad tastes that your opniono and its your to speak but we also will tell you your a hater grow up lol honey moon phase game has been out for a few weeks if folks were going to "break" the game it would have happened lol muppet comment but that pfp speaks volumes lmao

There is no hate towards overwatch. The purpose of the comparison was just to show the start of a random match in both games. The dynamics, character kits, movement abilities, etc of marvel rivals make the game to me much more fun and engaging. Ill have more to say in my full review, but I wasnt making this to showcase overwatch being bad, just to demonstrate as clearly as possible the actual difference in pacing/engagement. You are right, I could have picked a better character or a better situation to show, but I didnt because I dont want to cherrypick the results. In that match, I ended up switching to sombra, cassidy, and bastion as well. There are more interesting characters like doomfist or genji, which I could have picked. But why is it that picking Mei is the wrong choice? Why cant Mei's gameplay be as interesting and involved as genji or doomfist? Thats really the point of the video and what my review will focus on. Why does showing overwatch in the right light mean only picking certain characters or highlighting certain interactions. If the game is fun, I should be able to pick any moment.

@@MacEbesGaming 'no hate towards overwatch', but shits on overwatch with bronze mei gameplay in 6v6 to show why marvel is better. This has to be the worst attempt ever seen to shit on overwatch.

​@@berj8139this was not an attempt to trash ow2, simply to show the difference both games tend to take with movement and character kits. Its a representation to me of how it feels to play both games. The ow2 clip isnt comparable, because I dont play ow2 like I play marvel rivals, due to the characters. Mei, Bastion, Cassidy, even Genji all feel very weak as dps, even if as ive tested (proof in full review) they do about the same if not more damage than the marvel rivals equivalent.

@@MacEbesGaming Bud, I've been playing Overwatch for 8 years and I've never seen a clip like the one you posted...

100% agree, working on adding titles and progress points to videos. I tend to do that on my longer 20+ minute videos on the main channel, but I can do that here as well. My full review of the game will have timestamps for points of interest. These more tip videos I will also try adding timestamps as well.

The point was to show a random matches opening minute. To show that I can take any moment in time from a marvel rivals match and it will be more dynamic and interesting than an overwatch one. There is no doubt fun and intense moments in overwatch, but they are very few and far between, and as you pointed out, require specific characters/interactions. Why cant mei be as interesting gameplay wise as genji or doomfist, they are all dps and should all be able to do interesting dps interactions.

@@MacEbesGaming That's just... not a good argument? You should at least show characters with similar playstyles if you want to back up your case, but showing a slow character for one game and a less slow character in another just isn't a good comparison regardless of how you try to spin it. "Random matches" just don't work well for a comparison like this anyways as there's nothing to compare; You're showing clips from fundamentally different characters that have different playstyles

​@therealchems Yes I should show the same character on both side, but I didnt, because thats not representative of how I experience both games. This clip is. My ow2 main was sombra, which was quicker, had more movement options and damage options. They nerfed her this season so she no longer has the invisibility run, and her tp device is just a throwable now. This made her not fun anymore so I went with the other 2 dps I play, Bastion and Mei. I also tried Cassidy in this match. None of those fixed my issues with the game, so it wouldnt have mattered including them.

Ball? Lucio?

@@Kai_ser0123 try again

Yeah I know, some weird thing with obs recording and fullscreen games. Working on fixing it for full review, will have the clip again and in sync audio for full review.

This video wasnt meant to highlight skill, more so about movement, character kits, and the dynamic nature of the game compared to overwatch. Ive seen, and been a part of higher level overwatch play, and even then, a lot of high ranked people are complaining about this season being boring, with uninteresting meta.

I get that, but considering what this competes against, the prices are pretty normal if not a little cheaper for the quality. Even games that had cheap skins like Dead or Alive 5/6 were full priced games first, then sold you a $3-4 costume afterward. For being free, I think it's fine. Clearly, people disagree since they keep buying them.

Then don't buy them and just slowly grind the blue currency with quests. I am 1/4 of the way to the Luna snow skin and still have more quests I haven't completed.

Choppy? Unbalanced?

@jamespadilla7070 yes it is not smooth. It is like fortnight level. It is really unbalanced. Not enough play testing.

There are some characters like hawkeye I think could use a slight nerf but I actually enjoy the chaotic energy and frantic pace of the matches. My biggest issue with OW2 was its bland/sanded down character interactions when it moved from 6v6 to 5v5. Tanks felt like raid bosses and it made dps feel bad. I get the need to not make characters oppressive, but I think Marvel Rivals does a very good job of making everyone feel strong.

@MacEbesGaming It is too choppy and not clean. I feel like it is Marvels fortnight. Iron man is too strong, it was not play tested very well. The fact we compare it to a 10 year old game and it seems pretty split if it is better then is really not good for Marvels. It should be destroying OW. It does on how it looks. But not how it plays.

Your other option is setting up a VM like VMware or UTM, but virtualization doesnt let you transfer your gpu most of the time, meaning a lot of games wont run. The best bet other than virtualization is waiting for a linux port of some kind, that way the steam deck users can work their magic and get it running well on linux. MacOS is unix based so it should also run there. Its also possible if Wine is still operational you can try downloading that, which lets you run windows apps on mac. The first thing I would try is downloading Wine and trying to run the marvel rivals installer from their website

@jacthripper they just added 5.10 fiddlesticks champion, and while pvp updates are fewer, that isnt a bad thing as long as the community is there.

@@MacEbesGaming Fiddlesticks didn't go to PVP.

From what I understand, the competitive part of the game wasnt doing well originally so they focused more effort on the singleplayer campaign and making decisions based on casual feedback. I could see how the constant balance changes and power creep early on made competitive play quite hard. I thought the standard mode would fix that as it limited the pool of cards to the most balanced ones. I only tried that mode once as I didnt like needing to change my decks so frequently for the new standard pool.

@@MacEbesGaming standard was good for it, but now we get no more new pvp content at all. Additionally they got rid of their ingame tournament system such as seasonals and worlds.

@@MacEbesGaming they started to focus on pve becuase of riot layoffs and the game having no monitization. i think comp was doing okay and the pvp community was doing great. its just, like you mentioned, this game is super ftp. the avrage player had no reason to spend money, this pvp focus led to poor revenue and thus riot shut it down real fast.

@@eagleeye5397 what else would you suggest i add to make it more informative to a new player?

@@MacEbesGaming You need to organize the information better. Is it a review or a tutorial? Is it for new players or for people who got in on early access? You compare it with Factorio...so again who is it for? So just better organization. Do you even know about the Awesome sink and store in the game?

@eagleeye5397 The intent was for new players to the game who may have heard about this kind of game before but were not sure about it. I have the awesome sink and shop in the video but didnt mention them because unless you have a biomass burner soley for the sink, you will need to wait until coal power to use them. The sink takes 30mw and a burner can do 40mw, and it didnt seem worth it to have a sole burner for the sink especially after you get the 12 tickets you can do before the amount needed exponentially gets higher. Past the first use it didnt seem like people would have enough excess materials to warrant using it. Ill put a comment mentioning it.

While I agree it was added for conveinence, but I, as well as everyone I have played with, have always done a quick setup of leaves and wood for biomass. It was always easy to set it up with the output container at the generators. I still do, but I don't automate input. By the time handfeeding is becoming tedious, I'm setting up my coal anyways. At most, I would have a container with a small supply hooked up to a single biomass generator, so it can kick/restart my first coal generator array.

Yes. I believe it was either U7 or U8 that introduced that.

Please read the pinned comments to understand my intention with the video.

New player experiences are all about what you see. If you dont see certain mechanics or kits being used, you will never grasp there usefulness. To me while playing, I saw a lot of throwables, and not a lot of defensive options being deployed. Since I was a medium, it would be up to the heavy players to build barracades, dome shields, goo guns etc to stop those throwables from affecting the objective. I didnt experience many heavy players utilizing those items, they mostly stuck to hammer and occasionally barracade. Thus, my idea of throwables is that they are everywhere and are hard to defend against in modes like power shift. Many people in the comments have told me that there are ways to defend and that a good team comp means the heavy units would be using way more shields that are effective. But it doesnt change my experience with the game and the idea I had about throwables at the time.

@@MacEbesGamingI’m sorry my friend I will try to be constructive but you must understand that the class you were playing, medium, has the most effective throwable defense utility with the aps turret. It defends in all directions including vertically which was your initial complaint. Yes it goes down quickly but the cool down is also very short and can be redeployed is a short period of time. I guess my olive branch to you is that this video may be accurate to the initial user experience. The game is not BR or TDM which many FPS players want. It’s not surprising that many players do not want to familiarize themselves with unique utilities associated with the game and potentially lose because they are solo queuing with bad team members. But let’s be clear that the likely reason for the niche player base is it is a niche game which niche game mechanics, not because the game is unbalanced and poorly designed, which I think many of us thought was the implication of the video.

That is possible and likely, but its also where most of the experience of people playing the game comes from. A lot of people dont stick around past 5 or 10hrs of something they dont enjoy. I shouldnt have to have 30hrs in a game before deciding if I enjoy playing it or not. A lot of what I said did come from a lack of game knowledge because its what people with a lack of knowledge say. The purpose of the video was to talk about The Finals and why it seemed like so many people fell off of it. It becomes harder to do that the more time you put into a game and the harder it becomes to understand new player issues. The balance may be fine right now, but thats not what new players experience when they first enter, and what could cause them to drop the game

Check the pinned comment for my intention with the video

Most people that fell off this game did so within the first weeks meaning they too never got to 100hrs. It doesnt matter the time amount if people leave after 5hrs

You can check the pinned comment for my intention with the video.

That assumes everyone is working together with shields, and that most of the attack is in front rather than from above. All the shields dont protect above you from the goo grenades or smoke ones. Shields were rare and also commonly disabled through pyro. The only thing the mediums can do other than throwables is aps turret, guardian turret and healing beam, all the other shields like mesh, dome, barracade are for heavies. You are right, but it also proves my point that while there are protections against it, they still all go to the heavy units.

Check the pinned comment on my intention with the video.

Yeah I get it, I tried going into the video with a new player perspective and understand this is what tends to happen, but i wanted to look at why something that had so much hype around it ended up this way. I still like the game, and was just seeing what happened from someone who played st launch

I said in the first 30 seconds that I think the game succeeded and has a playerbase. I just felt from the hype it had garnered originally, that now it was way less, and I tried to look at it from a new player perspective. A lot of issues new players face are from not being fully informed on all the info/mechanics, so while you may see the points I made as meaningless due to inexperience, I see them as what new people think, and why they may leave the game

@@MacEbesGaming fair, however what your describing in terms of hype is the honeymoon phase and while new player opinions do matter, formulating a review of the game to share with potentially thousands of people with the title "What Happened to The Finals?" With the all time peak of players is crazy.

@randychickens8881 Thank you for a normal response. I would like to mention that this isnt a review of the game. My reviews will say Master Review Gaming if it is. Ive done 2 reviews on this channel, one for Multiversus, and one for Once Human. If you want to understand what my intention with the video is, see the pinned comment.

@@MacEbesGaming after reading the pinned I can see where you are coming from, but people think that it's a review for a reason. Whether or not it is meant to be a review you did review it even if from a new player perspective. I really do understand that it's not clear to new players what is quite possible in the game but when I started I felt it emphasized the sandbox nature of the game, to simply get out there and experiment. It's your video and I am certainly not demanding you do this but I recommended adding something like "a new player's perspective" to your title.

I think the game succeeded in its goal, I simply wanted to check out why it went from the hype it did to where it is now. You can see the pinned comment for more info about where I was coming from