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Heya, I'm not familiar with the metabattle builds. However I'm quite confident that this will not impact wand/staff in terms of builds. Melee Evasion / Ranged Endurance will stay great. For everything that's not wand/staff or dagger/X, endurance will become better than it was. Especially for Bow/X and Spear/X. My guess is that the endurance-ceiling will go higher, which means DPS needs to stack crit more to get a crit-sweet spot. They will most likely need to sacrifice (some) hit for this, which will in turn make our evasion better than it was before.

@@RandomToch I have read everything you said. I would appreciate if you would check it for yourself for small scale but in short terms :shock visor/armor and inf.herald greaves/gauntles and resistance (2) boots. ranged/melee endurance everywhere is possible and HP and MP regen here in there. Note : belt has 170 melee endurance passive and cloak+2set shock give 44 dmg reduction also The new fortitude stat not only give bonus but it increases every point also.

​@@Mr.Flex1992 I checked it out but I'm not a fan. My view is purely subjective though. The build looks like they took a wand/bow build and just sticked a wand/staff on it. Endurance **works** for us, but it's not optimal. We don't have anything to scale off on endurance, unlike bow with passive. We do with evasion (Victorious energy) However like I said, endurance works. But Talus Staff is an odd pick. I wonder what the total stats look like. Like how much melee endurance / ranged endurance do you run? What does your stat split look like? If you can send me a questlog link with ur build I can check to see if I can make some improvements for you.

The thing is, you don't sleep magic evasion builds. You feud enemy healers, or target non-dagger users. I very very rarely miss my sleeps. Also buff duration and cooldown reduction both work on Victorious Energy, which you're forgetting. Cooldown starts after you cast the ability. My Victorious Energy lasts 20 seconds, and after that only has ~30s of downtime before I can cast it again. Don't forget that Karmic Haze has a decently long cooldown as well. You're usually only ognna be sleeping once on a push anyways, and if there's a second sleep going to happen, both karmic and victorious will be off cooldown.

Hey man. Curse explosion sorta works, especially if you have a tevent wand. However, it really defeats the purpose of carrying a staff with you (especially with the fire bomb buff) so curse builds work better on wand/dagger imo.

@@RandomToch What do you mean by defeating the purpose of carrying a staff ? If this is about the healing debuff, I made a test. I used Touch of Despair and Focused Fire Bombs, then used Curse Explosion. The ToD and burning were removed but it kept the recovery debuff on the Practice Dummy.

@@DanielLimadaCosta-q4x Heya. I use staff mainhand for more range and better (offensive) options. Wand offhand I use the 3 middle nodes and bottom 2 nodes. (The small nodes don’t count as they work for mainhand only) Staff you can build different masteries so personal preference. I like the full bot row but u can also do top row.

@@RandomToch Thank you very much for the immediate response. That's why I was in doubt and wanted to know from another player if I was on the right path. Hugs and good morning!

@@brandencahn staff or bow out for maximum effectivity. On wand use 3 big mid nodes and 2 big bot nodes. The big nodes work even if your weapon is offhand, the small ones don’t.

@@RandomToch Thank you! Super helpful

Haha, uh oh!

Anytime! Thanks for the reply :)

I'm not a crossbow player so I might be wrong. But as far as I know there's pretty much just one way to go about it. You make sure your Mother's Nature Protest is up, stealth to walk in from flank. Select one of your feuded targets (or any other target), shadowstrike on him, buff yourself up with nimble leap and then start spinning to win. You can use smokescreen if needed.

Still rotating through but preferring staff at this moment!

You'll notice it but it's a viable option. 70 str / 50 perception is perfectly fine, you should still be able to hit many enemies. I haven't found an ideal build for me yet as I don't want to sacrifice the melee evasion that much.

Thanks! I appreciate it :)

Thanks for the kind words!

Thanks for the reaction! I did contemplate using shock commander 2 piece or shock commander 2 piece together with forsaken, but the melee evasion drop is just far too high to make it viable imo.

Thanks! I'll have a video with UI tips up soon enough :)

@@RandomToch Awesome!

Haha yeah, we need more of us!

It should be really easy levelling as staff/wand! There are plenty levelling guides out there. Just follow the MSQ and so some Codex entries to get past breakpoints. It shouldn't take too long to level. The same Fire bomb -> Chain Lightning -> Judgement Lightning works for PvE and leveling. You can add it to it with Touch of Despair -> Decaying Touch (Corrupted Magic Circle Spec) -> Touch of Despair -> Curse Explosion. and Inferno Wave as a filler to spam. I can elaborate but this keeps it simple for now. What is exactly making you feel lost?

@ thanks for the reply 😁 I guess it's feeling underpowered while levelling (I'm 23 now on this build). Picking off single mobs is fine, packs I'm 50/50 surviving or not. I can't think of an mmo where I died so often before end game - I may be missing something fundamental I guess

@@dixieflatline1189 No problem at all. I can imagine the frustration. This guide is made with end-game PvP in mind. (Although this works really well in dungeons too, but you can drop sleep for that. I have a build video on my channel as well) On level 23 you're missing out on a lot of specialization points that make things much better. Eli has made a very nice and easy to follow staff/wand leveling guide up at Maxroll. I'm sure it can help you: maxroll.gg/throne-and-liberty/build-guides/wand-staff-leveling-build-guide On max level with some gear you can basically endlessly pull mobs, even in the open world dungeons. Just the healing from the Vampiric Contract will keep you topped up :D

Thanks. I go more in depth on my build here: ua-cam.com/video/SouGyvTGYJc/v-deo.html But for a questlog see: Build Base: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/OathHeartBind?build-id=499032 Build World Boss Items: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/OathHeartBind?build-id=255170 Build World Boss Items + Possible November update: questlog.gg/throne-and-liberty/en/character-builder/OathHeartBind?build-id=605550

​@@RandomToch thank you very much... have a good day

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Sorry for the late response! Yeah going for the shock commander chest is just too much of an evasion drop for me. If you don't have exca wand there's no reason to go for field general gloves yet, as you really just want it to fill in your stats. I would not lose the 150 melee evasion; I'd play around with 60 strength / 50 perception or 50 perception / 60 strength if you're free to swap them around. See if you start missing hits a lot on your server or not. (In my case, I def. need the 60 perception) But ideally I'd just go 60/60 like the build I have now, it's a nice base to go up to 70 str in T2. Boonstone :)

@@imboredofu57 Agreed, I made sure I didn’t swear in the video I made after.

Yes. I’m at 1120 like he says and it pretty much does nothing unless they aren’t geared players. Which most people have maxed weapons at least so I’m gonna switch right now.

For Dagger/Wand both Magic/Ranged evasion and Melee/Ranged evasion are viable. If you do large scale and are a backline bomber - Magic/Ranged Evasion is the way to go If you do small scale and arena's - Melee evasion/Ranged Evasion is the way to go. If you play as a large scale backline bomber and you go melee evasion; melee won't be an issue anymore but both magic and ranged will be a significantly larger issue. So I'd probably just stay ranged/magic evasion and try to stay clear of GS's.

Thanks for the quick answer love the vid keep it up

You want to balance mana regen and max mana. Max mana grants you increased healing through your passive. But mana regen provides you with.. more mana regen, which is incredibly usefull in basically all situations, especially in arenas. I just really value the mana regen, even though it's pretty much a "no better alternative" trait. I'm really looking forward to start making arena video's, however I want to be genuinely good at something before I start preaching to people about what to do and what not to do. I have some builds that can easily pop off (i.imgur.com/ZPm2Zg8.png) and am currently sitting at a ~80% win rate. But my ELO is too low to definitely say "this is the way". My arena builds are pretty heavily offensive focussed right now, but I feel like the higher the elo, the more you want to focus on CC. Sleep with deep sleep and nightmare, base icebound tomb so you can lock an enemy away for 10s+ while you nuke someone else. Maybe infernal meteor with health recovery slowed, so you can sleep enemy healer, throw meteor on him/her to reduce healing received and then nuke him/her down. I currently have ~10 different loadouts for arena which all range between full offense and full cc/debuff/utility. When arena season hits I'm going to try to push for top 100 and once I hit top 100 the guides will start coming :D

I get the point you're making but you're probably running the ascended set, which builds you in to a full glass cannon. The build I'm posting about has great healing capabilities while maintaining high survivability. Dead healers don't heal. Enough defensives gainst melee and ranged and a high enough HP pool to survive magic heavy attacks.

This is definitely a gear/stat discrepancy. Ask any hardcore guild/player, healers are extremely hard to kill in small and large scale pvp. in GvG and ZvZ, I (staff/wand) only die if I get pulled into 6 people. Crossbow spins never kill me and hardly any melee players can hit my 1750 melee evasion that boosts to 2k+ with victorious energy. Ranged endurance with healing skills keep us from getting one shot by ranged dps. Healers in my guild always get boss drops because of astral vision healing, especially if its peace and you also run damage skills instead of sleeps

You could go 2 piece ascended and go full melee evasion / magic endurance. I just don't think it's very viable at this point, it leaves you too squishy in my eyes.

You could go 2 piece ascended and go full melee evasion / magic endurance. I just don't think it's very viable at this point, it leaves you too squishy in my eyes. Spreading endurances is a bad decision i.m.o, you really want to focus on 2 defensive stats, else they don't really contribute much.

The spreadsheet isn't really anything special. I'm just using the stat formulas. (Credit maxroll) *Evasion:* Evasion Chance = ((Your Evasion − Enemy Hit) / (Your Evasion − Enemy Hit + 1,000)) × 100% *Endurance* Crit Chance = ((Enemy Crit− Your Endurance) / (Enemy Crit− Your Endurance + 1,000)) × 100%

Good question. The increased fireball projectile speed is best for serial fire bombs because you "channel" much faster and apply your burn stacks much faster. For Focused Fire Bombs it's less important and might be more ping related. If I cast a fireball without the speed increase and cast Chain Thunder or Judgement Lightning after, the latter skills hit *before* the fireball lands. Both of these skills do increased damage based on burn stacks and also get influenced by our flame condensation passive. You can test this at any target dummy. For small scale pvp (when people can pay attention to you) they have a huge time window to react with blocking the fireball. In arenas I recommend not using focused firebombs at all because from mid-ELO out people will insta block if they see your wind-up.

@ thank you! From the tooltip I assumed it just flew to target faster; I wasn’t aware of increased channel speed! I’ve noticed chain lightning can outpace the projectile at distance, but that is the only “pro” to this perk that I’ve seen until now.

@@equilibliam6032 I need to rephrase I think, the increased fireball speed is pretty much necessary for serial firebombs with the instant cast trait, the skill doesn't actually channel in the sense of a cast time, but I see the entire skill animation as a "channel" that shoots fireballs and applies the burn. (So your assumption is right, your skill just gets quicker. That's pretty much is the only pro, but it's a massive one!

Haha, cheers! Cool that you found me here :)

Can u link the dc please :) ?

The melee evasion to enemy hit rate ratio should stay the same in T2, I calculated this a while back. iirc enemy melee will cap at 2500 hit fullly buffed, while we cap at 2850'ish melee evasion unbuffed, 3270 buffed. But we'll only know what the meta in T2 will be when we get there. Buffs & nerfs will follow, meta shifts will happen, and depending on meta shifts some things will become better and some things will become worse. i.m.o. there's no use in building towards an uncertain future, especially when everything we currently wear will get replaced anyhow.

@@RandomTochas melee how can we even hit? I am using tank build like 930 hit chance I can not hit them at all in arena sometimes or against other player

@@jacky-gc4tf There's diminishing returns on evasion. So with 930 hit chance we will have 45-60% chance (unbuffed vs buffed) to dodge your skills. There's not really much you can do about this as this is the games design. It's much like a rock paper scissor construction where you just focus a class of which you know they don't build melee evasion. But if you play sns/gs you can hit like 1150 hit chance with vital force and perception. You can precision dash to get another +160 hitchance for 3s which will let you peak 1310 hit chance, that'll give you a very high hitrate. But not so much against wand/staff or dagger players as you can see in my spreadsheet :)

Will this build work for sns-wand?, I want to play staff-wand and sns-wand for mass PvP healing

Nah it's definitely not overrated. On buffed 2200+ melee evasion you dodge so much. I've tested this out in guild hall with 3-4 GS's on my and I can reliably survive their burst. Of course it's RNG and once in so many times they get more hits off. If you want to go Melee Endurance / Ranged Endurance, that's fine too. If you click on my questlog link, you can scroll down and see "OFFMETA - Endurance staff/wand" It's not as good as melee evasion i.m.o. and it pretty much gimps your victorious energy. It can be suited for people who decide to build a full healbot build, but endurance is better suited for bow/wand with the endurance passive. Supposedly the bow passive spreads through party members, but in the testing I did it didn't seem like the passive activated for people other than the one having the passive on. But who knows, tooltips/statusses are wrong so much in this game, so it COULD actually be spreading.

I mean yeah evasion is rng. But it's rng to literally prevent melee from being able to use their combo on you. As a healer, not much feels better than when a melee whiffs their guillotine. But beyond that, healer survivability is what percent of the time you can have blessed barrier on yourself.

@Sam-tb8hp not really tho. if u match with a skilled player the combo will be still there. evasion only works for low iq player since they dont know what todo and thats least a concern for u what concerning is those top player they dont miss lol thats why im saying it. if u are a healer u should be going more on defenses and not rng eva i pretty sure most of ur enemy hurts alot but your heals saves u but that still proves my point that eva is overrated and hype. most smart player have high hit so ur eva is completely useless because they dont miss. what will miss on you is those low geared player and as for me i dont care about those low gear player i test evasion already so i speak based on my experience on it

@@ajjames1960 What I described in my video **are** the end-game full hit stacked melee players both unbuffed and buffed up to get max hit. And those players are also the players I ran tests with. I'm not saying melee endurance is useless, melee evasion just works better for wand/staff due to the huge victorious energy boost it gets. So players are free to run melee endurance, like I mentioned; I also have an example (off-meta) build for it up in my questlog.

@@RandomToch do you still think that its better to go eva? because idk man im literally confused and it makes me want to quit the game, once a melee jump in do stun then boom you are dead even if u have alot of eva and mind you i have alot of eva but i just feel like idk. i still down if u can show us some proof that its better to do eva vs endurance. we might appreciate it if you so some comparison like real life scenario because i always get stun and die all the time even i have high eva, i even want to change my build or im thinking im might just create a new character lol

Excavator wand is great for many reasons. It's pretty tough to reach 60 str / 60 perception without it, and it also has the health trait which leq wand doesn't have. Other than that it's passive is borderline broken. The tooltip isn't correct, it's not "heal per 6 seconds" it's actually a heal PER second for 6 seconds. Not only that; it's also influenced by your stats (skill heal, skill boost) and so on. I did some testing with the exca passive procc and a single swift heal can heal 14-18k hp on my current build.

@ oh wow thank you for that, I always wondered if it was a busted tool tip because that’s what’s kept me from trying, I’m still trying to get my hands on ex9 wand

@ so it applies a passive 6 sec heal not just a buff to healing for 6 sec

@@djskinandbones Yep!

@@RandomToch damn that’s good to know, so I really need to get my hands on that wand haha you’ve def earned a sub! Hope you keep putting out more informative content so I can learn more!

Cheers!

Cheers! See you at some WB's/Siege! :)

​@@RandomToch Yeah..Pretty sure you guys will be bossing at the siege. Pretty sure you already dominate in WB's across the server. like how it looks from a smaller guilds perspective. i do hope you guys will have rival guilds that will keep up with you. It's better for the health of the server. All the best.

@@popkornlex Haha we'll have to see when siege hits. We have many great players and amazing shotcallers who can balance tight serious calls while switching it up with memes and banter. So no matter if we win or not; we're gonna have a blast. There's some larger alliances out there, so siege certainly isn't going to be a cakewalk. I'm really looking forward to it 😀

​@@RandomToch was around ruins of turayne last night. i have seen you guys whoop infinite guilds ass. :)) that looked bit brutal from your side :)).

Thanks! 😀

Inner Peace doesn't really give enough mana on it's own. Even if you manage your mana usage you'll end up out of mana at some point while Inner Peace is still on cooldown. Having some mana regen here and there mitigates that a bit. I'm sitting on 1200 mana regen and even at that point, I wish I had some more. That being said, the mana regen traits are mostly a 'Lack of other good traits' option. (Because we generally want Max Health / Melee Evasion / Ranged Endurance stacks) Swapping Mana Regen for Movement speed on boots is totally fine. Swapping Mana Regen for Melee Endurance on helmet isn't worth the effort.

What about using increased mana instead of mana regen because of the passive that gives you heal % per 1k mana?

Ahaha, I think staff/wand will always stay relevant because it's so flexible. If the meta shifts you can just adjust build :)

Most of the gear of this build and the endurance build are the same pieces. You can buy the evasion trait of an item and swap it over. You only need to replace a few items. Should be doable within 1000-2000 lucent.

<3 mah man.