Antenna Whisperer - K7RAW
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K7RAW Self-Contained Off-Center-Fed Vertical Dipole (OCFVD)
This is the perfect companion antenna for a POTA activation or any field HF operation. It operates 40m-10m and everything in between. The telescopic whip, tent stakes and guy tiedowns are all contained inside the 2" PVC tube. Add a tiny ATU-100 on a short piece of coax and you have a fully-tunable multi-band antenna.
MOTIVATION
This 40-10m compact antenna is intended for very fast setup and take-down with good performance on all bands. Everything you need (except the ATU and coax) is stored inside the 2' long 2" PVC tube.
THEORY
This OCFD vertical has an overall electrical length of about 22 feet which is the size of a typical "flagpole" OCFD. Since the impedance at the 20% feed point is about 450 ohms, a 9:1 UnUn is incorporated along with a good toroid-based common-mode choke. A battery-operated auto-tuner feeds the antenna's BNC connector. The antenna below the feed point is made with 7.5 turns of 1/2" copper foil tape wound around the PVC just to save height. This also keeps the PVC base low to the ground and easy to guy. WIth the ATU connected near the antenna, a 10W RF CW signal will trigger the tuner to tune up to that frequency where the resulting SWR is read out.
ELECTRICAL:
1 5.53m long, 14 section, stainless steel telescopic whip (eBay)
1 4.5' long section of 0.5" to 1.0" wide copper foil tape
1 ATU-100 with internal battery (w/UHF connectors) (eBay)
1 FT-240-31 ferrite core (Amazon)
1 FT-240-43 ferrite core (Amazon)
1 Common-Mode Choke (CMC), wound bi-filar, bi-sectional using 18AWG on Mix 31 core
1 9:1 UnUn, wound tri-filar using 18AWG on Mix 43 core (optional 100pF 3KV cap at input)
1 BNC bulkhead connector (round base, not square)
1 BNC right-angle adapter (to let the short coax jumper connect to the ATU on the ground)
1 3/8" ring terminal crimp style (crimp & solder)
A/R Different colored 18AWG stranded hookup wire (for CMC, TLT and leads)
WINDING DIAGRAMS:
Common-Mode Choke: www.pa9x.com/the-broadband-common-mode-choke/ (3rd picture down)
9:1 UnUn TLT: vk6ysf.com/unun_9-1.htm (ignore the page title, it's a misnomer)
PVC (schedule 40):
1 ~24" long 2" tubing (creates the body of the antenna base)
1 2" cap (rounded top) (for the base)
1 2" plug (flat face) (for the reversible whip holder)
1 2" "T" (for mounting the CMC, TLT and BNC cap assembly)
3.25" 3/4" PVC pipe (onto which the CMC & TLT slide)
1 1" cap (rounded top) (holds the BNC bulkhead connector)
1 1" to 3/4" reducer (BNC cap goes over this)
1 2" to 3/4" reducer (mounts the 3/4 tubing supporting the CMC & TLT)
1 set of PVC glue primer and adhesive (to permantly attach all PVC parts)
HARDWARE:
1 3/8-24 threaded stub (~1" long) (to connect inside and outside unions)
2 3/8-24 female unions (one inside plug, one outside)
1 3/8-24 hex bolt (holds the ring terminal for the whip to the inside of the whip union)
3 ~1/2" OD screw eye & nut (for guy cord carabiners to hook to)
3 mini-carabiner clips (for clipping guy cords to the screw eyes)
3 CamEZ tensioners (to tension the guy cords near the tent stakes)
3 tent stakes (place about 2-3 feet from the base of the pipe)
3 3' sections of 3/16" parachute cord (guy cords)
1 2' long piece of 2.5" PVC heat-shrink tubing (goes over the spiral copper foil as protectant)
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КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @OlderThanDirt-ii3rp
    @OlderThanDirt-ii3rp 8 днів тому

    Love it!!!!! AE4YW

  • @MT-cc2fz
    @MT-cc2fz 8 днів тому

    Hi Rudy, Very Interesting design. What is the Bandwidth like, is it High Q or does it cover the 20Meter band pretty well? I'm wondering if it would be a good attic antenna.

  • @EvaderGuy
    @EvaderGuy 11 днів тому

    This is one of many things about Mateus radio…guys like you that never rest and continue to innovate. Thanks!

  • @DJCryptoStix
    @DJCryptoStix 13 днів тому

    Thanks 73

  • @Tom-jd1rm
    @Tom-jd1rm 18 днів тому

    Thanks for sharing your knowledge. KF0MOE

  • @edisonjohn6346
    @edisonjohn6346 Місяць тому

    Cordial greetings colleague Ruddi, I have been pleasantly surprised with this antenna project, could I publish a construction scheme of it, I think that there are many of us who are interested in a multiband antenna for small spaces. 73's Dx's

  • @Treadstone21-h6i
    @Treadstone21-h6i Місяць тому

    Does HOA mean your a homosexual? 🤔

  • @Treadstone21-h6i
    @Treadstone21-h6i Місяць тому

    I tried Tena ladies but didn't receive shit 🤷🙄

  • @farleyeyedoc
    @farleyeyedoc Місяць тому

    I am a new Ham, do you have to use the LDG RT-100 remote antenna tuner? Or will any tuner work. What should I look for?

  • @clementglinski3924
    @clementglinski3924 Місяць тому

    SIMPLY GENIUS!

    • @Treadstone21-h6i
      @Treadstone21-h6i Місяць тому

      Not really..just a standard dipole wrapped around pool noodles 🤷🙄..in fact, I think it's a pretty bad design, I can see those noodles melting if you run over 30 watts through that wire ..

  • @YinYangDPW
    @YinYangDPW 2 місяці тому

    What would you think about using an air wound coil approximately 6 in diameter made from 1/8 in copper tubing (self supporting), with mechanism to expand or contract the coil, thereby changing its inductance enough to not only tune across the band, but also change from band to band ?

    • @rudiwiedemann8173
      @rudiwiedemann8173 Місяць тому

      WOW, that would be big and HEAVY, not to mention pricey for all that copper.

  • @iPigee
    @iPigee 2 місяці тому

    Can you demonstrate using it on a radio?

  • @DarkShadowCustoms
    @DarkShadowCustoms 2 місяці тому

    Looks like a nice homebrew antenna for portable operations.

  • @W4TRI
    @W4TRI 2 місяці тому

    Got a link for the whip? I have not found one that is not 10mm thread instead of the 3/8 24 that I already have many things for. Even a good source of 3/8 24 to 10mm adaptors would be great! Thanks for open sourcing this!

  • @MrDmjay
    @MrDmjay 2 місяці тому

    Nice home brew, well done.

  • @ChaplainDaveSparks
    @ChaplainDaveSparks 2 місяці тому

    _”(scale the lengths for other HF bands)”_ Now if I can just find a *400 inch* long, *24 inch* diameter pool noodle for 80 meters … 😀 Or maybe a _”Slinkie™ dipole”_ *73 de AF6AS*

    • @rudiwiedemann8173
      @rudiwiedemann8173 Місяць тому

      Yeah, I've built and tested a number Slinky dipoles but the biggest downside is that the spring steel Slinky has WAY too much ohmic resistance (otherwise known as a toaster coil) for my tastes.

    • @ChaplainDaveSparks
      @ChaplainDaveSparks Місяць тому

      @@rudiwiedemann8173 _<Gears in brain still turning>_ ... I wonder how much the efficiency would improve if someone had the ability to *COPPER PLATE* the Slinky? Factoring in _skin effect_ (at HF frequencies), this should have the same effect as making the entire thing out of copper. I'd be mainly concerned if the Slinky would be as springy with a thin coating of copper ... *73 de AF6AS in **_“DM13”_** land*

  • @bitemykrank1970
    @bitemykrank1970 2 місяці тому

    I like it, but I think the Mad Dog coil is a better design, more compact and lighter. I would imagine this would cost about the same to make as it would cost to buy a commercial version, such as the Mad Dog, Wolf River, Ten Tec or one of the many Chinese made coils that do the same thing once you assemble and obtain all the parts, I doubt this would be that cheap as an antenna, at least here in Australia. I do like the idea of the full kit inside though and the antenna stowage up the guts of the mount, Very clever design.

    • @rudiwiedemann8173
      @rudiwiedemann8173 2 місяці тому

      I'm not sure you understand the distinction here. This is NOT a "vertical" with a loading coil and ground plane. It's an Off-Center-Fed Vertical DIPOLE. It's just fed about 20% (electrically) from the bottom with a 9:1 UnUn and a CMC. Different animal altogether.

    • @bitemykrank1970
      @bitemykrank1970 2 місяці тому

      @@rudiwiedemann8173 I am aware one is an OCFD the other is base loaded vertical, but essentially they are the same thing. both offer multiple bands on one wire and have a loaded section to deliver said bands. I know they are a different design, but still, they're doing the same thing.

  • @dannymixon300
    @dannymixon300 2 місяці тому

    Hello...I like your design. I have looked inside several 32 foot vertical HF whip antennas in my time. I was a radio guy in the Navy for the better part of 31 years. So I had the privilege of seeing "deconstructed" vertical whips. The twisted strap approach you opted for is okay but not the way that I have seen commercial grade whips made. It should work though. You also need to drill a small hole in the cap end of that PVC pipe to drain off moisture buildup. Moisture will build up in it. Assuming that the cap is pointed down towards the ground right?

    • @rudiwiedemann8173
      @rudiwiedemann8173 2 місяці тому

      Well no, I didn't design this to Navy Mil Standard specs, Sorry, it's for hams not for warfighting. And you can drain any moisture when you un-cap the top that holds the whip.

  • @JoeFittipaldi
    @JoeFittipaldi 2 місяці тому

    Hi Rudi a very informative presentation. Is it possible to use mix 43 for both a CMC and TLT as I cannot get a mix 31. Thank again for the presentation. Joe.

  • @heatherryan9820
    @heatherryan9820 2 місяці тому

    That’s really cool that it’s all encapsulated like that.

  • @SNMSRACING
    @SNMSRACING 2 місяці тому

    Nice work Rudi! deKK7BUC

  • @jolu2469
    @jolu2469 2 місяці тому

    What a unique looking antenna (to start with)... but this looks like it would be fun to build and easy to deploy. I'll have to try it (after I learn how to build CMC's and UnUns)!

  • @kf5hcr176
    @kf5hcr176 2 місяці тому

    Fine business Sir. Innovative. You've succeeded in ariusing my curiosity, now off to build it

  • @sincerelyyours7538
    @sincerelyyours7538 2 місяці тому

    Looks interesting indeed! Do you plan a follow up video to show us how you set it up? I'd also like to see how well it performs.

  • @gordslater
    @gordslater 2 місяці тому

    Remoteley tunable Idea: if you could get a short steel rod with a motor drive near the base you could drive it up and down inside a region of tighter (closer-wound) coil turns to alter the inductance and give it some remote fine-tuning across a band. The motor would turn a threaded rod and and work a bit like a screwdriver antenna. The key thing is to move the steel bolt into and out of a section of tighter coils - in even-spaced coils there will be only marginal change is resonance. Not sure if there are better materials to use(steel is lossy and kills Q) but a steel bolt is cheap and easy to find for an experiment

    • @rudiwiedemann8173
      @rudiwiedemann8173 Місяць тому

      Each NoodleTenna dipole is a pretty broad-band resonant device in and of itself, so it should not need any tuner or adjustment.

  • @RicksHamShack
    @RicksHamShack 2 місяці тому

    Intriguing design. Thanks for sharing!

  • @jandcb5689
    @jandcb5689 2 місяці тому

    That's awesome! I like how you hid everything inside and used a coil counterpoint. EXCELLENT JOB, SIR!

    • @rudiwiedemann8173
      @rudiwiedemann8173 2 місяці тому

      This is NOT a "counterpoise" but simply the lower 20% of the dipole wrapped a few times around the PVC tubing just to hold it and make it short.

  • @otrdriver6767
    @otrdriver6767 2 місяці тому

    Thank you for sharing this with us.KC1TWE.

  • @doctave
    @doctave 2 місяці тому

    Very nice! Would an antenna like this work better or worse if it were elevated, instead of on the ground?

    • @antennawhisperer-k7raw151
      @antennawhisperer-k7raw151 2 місяці тому

      Ground-mounted OCFDs are just fine with no real advantage to raise them above ground since there is no groundplane.

    • @rudiwiedemann8173
      @rudiwiedemann8173 2 місяці тому

      It's a type of dipole, so the only thing raising it up off the ground might be to lower the launch angle.

  • @VE6SFX_HamRadioRookie
    @VE6SFX_HamRadioRookie 2 місяці тому

    I have never thought of doing a coil for the counterpoise(?) ground plane(?) that is epic! How long of a piece of copper did you use? Or is this more a area thing vs length?

    • @antennawhisperer-k7raw151
      @antennawhisperer-k7raw151 2 місяці тому

      It isn't a "counterpoise" so much as the bottom 20% of a short vertical dipole.

    • @VE6SFX_HamRadioRookie
      @VE6SFX_HamRadioRookie 2 місяці тому

      @@antennawhisperer-k7raw151 Ah off center fed vertical then. Got it

    • @rudiwiedemann8173
      @rudiwiedemann8173 2 місяці тому

      I use an 18.5' long, 14 section stainless steel telescopic whip plus 4.5' of 1" wide copper foil tape wrapped around the 2' long tube about 7.5 turns. This is NOT a "counterpoise" but simply the lower 20% of the dipole.

  • @davepuckett3197
    @davepuckett3197 2 місяці тому

    That's amazing, Rudi!!! Can't wait to see the finished product. 73 from W5ODP 😎

  • @jolu2469
    @jolu2469 2 місяці тому

    This was an excellent presentation to attend. Thank you for presenting at HamCon Zion. Now I need to get started on all of these hands-on examples!

  • @jolu2469
    @jolu2469 2 місяці тому

    This was an excellent presentation to attend. Thank you for presenting at HamCon Zion.

  • @ssaa66oo
    @ssaa66oo 2 місяці тому

    How does it work? What do we sacrifice to get the length so small?

    • @rudiwiedemann8173
      @rudiwiedemann8173 Місяць тому

      Your receive-side will be noticeably weaker. but if you get an MLA-30+ amplified receive loop, an SDR box like an SDRplay and a T/R switch you can operate "Diversity Mode" and get the best of both worlds!

  • @danhamilton2829
    @danhamilton2829 3 місяці тому

    Great video and very cool design. As a new ham just over a year ago I've been exploring different antennas to build. Definitely on a budget so it's cheaper than buying new, tho I love building and then having the joy of using it makes it so much better. Thanks for the video, looking forward to more. 73's

  • @dmitrymelnik8296
    @dmitrymelnik8296 3 місяці тому

    That's a cool idea. Thank you very much for the video. Out of curiosity, what wire gauge did you use? 73.

  • @hennero.3826
    @hennero.3826 3 місяці тому

    I am new into ham radio and would like to understand this "stay stealthy", "conceal" "nosy neighbour" things a bit better. Is it really likely that the radio equipment will cause issues in neighbours devices even when used wihtin legal limits, or is this more an "esoteric" thing (like neighbours flatter themselves that the antennas have impact on their well-being)? 🤔 By the way - I am surprised that you Americans worry so much about these things. It thought this was more like a "German" thing (I am German ...). 😉

  • @davidlanders2671
    @davidlanders2671 3 місяці тому

    What gauge wire? How much power will it handle?

    • @rudiwiedemann8173
      @rudiwiedemann8173 Місяць тому

      I recommend 18 gauge stranded hookup wire (you know, the cheap kind) which will easily handle 100W

  • @ellisc.foleyjr9778
    @ellisc.foleyjr9778 3 місяці тому

    Its nice ti see that there are still hams out there that build their own antenna's rather than just buy some piece of junk. The Problem with most new hams is they have not had the privilege of an Elmer to teach them along the way. So they just buy what they need instead of experimenting and gaining knowledge and having the fun of seeing the fruits of their labors on the air. I have had that thrill for over 50 yrs and still get excited to build something and watch it work and see my creation create qso's good show. RudI!

  • @wa8bzc
    @wa8bzc 4 місяці тому

    Any chance of measured plans on PDF?

    • @rudiwiedemann8173
      @rudiwiedemann8173 Місяць тому

      C'mon man, it just AIN'T THAT BLOODY HARD! Just go get the parts, build it and then tune it up using an antenna analyzer. Realize that yo want to keep the lengths on both sides VERY close to equal, otherwise you'll have trouble getting a low SWR at resonance (that's your clue).

  • @daveduffy2292
    @daveduffy2292 5 місяців тому

    Great idea. How well does it preform

  • @hunterusa4039
    @hunterusa4039 5 місяців тому

    very cool! Genius my friend. Thank you!

  • @sandyjohnston9457
    @sandyjohnston9457 5 місяців тому

    Good content but pity inpicture video usually too small to see. Otherwise interesting tuition

  • @tony2wheelz408
    @tony2wheelz408 5 місяців тому

    Man, I think I found my next project!

  • @mysteryham4065
    @mysteryham4065 5 місяців тому

    Fantastic!

  • @brianfields4479
    @brianfields4479 5 місяців тому

    Thanks for sharing, great idea . I hope the next video is showing this ant on the air. 73 zl3xdj

  • @matthewblanchard7823
    @matthewblanchard7823 5 місяців тому

    This is brilliant. I live in a condo and im getting my licence. Figuring out an antenna was giving me a real problem.

  • @Dkutiej
    @Dkutiej 5 місяців тому

    Again another good show. THX, 73, David.

  • @bassmanjr100
    @bassmanjr100 5 місяців тому

    Dumb question. Why do they make the open wire line exposed in the first place if it doesn't work well when wet?

  • @mattrupert
    @mattrupert 5 місяців тому

    Hello Rudy, would there be any advantages of doing the pool noodle on a schedule 20 say 6in diameter pipe instead of the smaller diameter pool noodles? Im thinking larger diameter might allow for a little larger antenna and maybe better performance? What are your thoughts? Over the winter its hard to locate pool noodles in my local stores. kk7aim