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Joseph Huwe
Приєднався 14 жов 2012
Miscellaneous electronics and off grid experimentation
Predator 8750 generator - Remote start
In this video I show you how to convert an electric start predator 8750 generator into a remote start or dry contact start generator. Using an Arduino Uno as the logic behind the entire thing.
--- Parts list ---
X1 - Arduino UNO R3 -- Ebay or Amazon
X4 SPDT 30 amp 12v auto relays -- Ebay or Amazon
X2 SPDT 10 amp 5v Arduino project relays -- Ebay or Amazon
X1 Cheap RC servo -- Ebay or Amazon
--- Schematic ---
photos.app.goo.gl/7qcLUFg3ooRYVm3f8
--- Arduino Code ---
UA-cam will not let me type angle brackets in the description so you will need to add them on both sides of "Servo.h"
// Kroll Software 1996-2020 --- Joseph Huwe ---
// Code originally made for -- predator 8750 generator -- auto start via -- MPP solar dry contacts --
// For public uses
#include Servo.h
// These are constants:
Servo choke; // choke servo pin 11:
const int enginerun = 10; // pin for run relay - output
const int enginestart = 9; // pin for start relay - output
const int startstop = 7; // pin for run / stop command - input
const int genon = 5; // pin for sensing generator running - input
void setup() {
//set input and output pins
choke.attach(11);
pinMode(enginerun, OUTPUT);
pinMode(enginestart, OUTPUT);
pinMode(startstop, INPUT);
pinMode(genon, INPUT);
}
void loop() {
// while the start stop input is high - gen set try to start and hold run:
while (digitalRead(startstop) == HIGH) {
delay(1000);
if (digitalRead(genon) == LOW ){
// choke on:
choke.write(90);
delay(1000);
// ignition on:
digitalWrite(enginerun, HIGH );
delay(1000);
// amount of time starter motor runs:
digitalWrite(enginestart, HIGH );
delay(1500);
digitalWrite(enginestart, LOW );
// amount of time choke stays on after start:
delay(1000);
choke.write(0);
// delay for if loop recycle - gives generator time to provide feedback -
delay(7000);
}
else {
// ignition on hold command:
digitalWrite(enginerun, HIGH );
delay(1);
}
}
while (digitalRead(startstop) == LOW) {
delay(1000);
// ignition off:
digitalWrite(enginerun, LOW);
delay(10);
// Housekeeping off command:
choke.write(0);
delay(10);
digitalWrite(enginestart, LOW);
delay(10);
}
}
--- Parts list ---
X1 - Arduino UNO R3 -- Ebay or Amazon
X4 SPDT 30 amp 12v auto relays -- Ebay or Amazon
X2 SPDT 10 amp 5v Arduino project relays -- Ebay or Amazon
X1 Cheap RC servo -- Ebay or Amazon
--- Schematic ---
photos.app.goo.gl/7qcLUFg3ooRYVm3f8
--- Arduino Code ---
UA-cam will not let me type angle brackets in the description so you will need to add them on both sides of "Servo.h"
// Kroll Software 1996-2020 --- Joseph Huwe ---
// Code originally made for -- predator 8750 generator -- auto start via -- MPP solar dry contacts --
// For public uses
#include Servo.h
// These are constants:
Servo choke; // choke servo pin 11:
const int enginerun = 10; // pin for run relay - output
const int enginestart = 9; // pin for start relay - output
const int startstop = 7; // pin for run / stop command - input
const int genon = 5; // pin for sensing generator running - input
void setup() {
//set input and output pins
choke.attach(11);
pinMode(enginerun, OUTPUT);
pinMode(enginestart, OUTPUT);
pinMode(startstop, INPUT);
pinMode(genon, INPUT);
}
void loop() {
// while the start stop input is high - gen set try to start and hold run:
while (digitalRead(startstop) == HIGH) {
delay(1000);
if (digitalRead(genon) == LOW ){
// choke on:
choke.write(90);
delay(1000);
// ignition on:
digitalWrite(enginerun, HIGH );
delay(1000);
// amount of time starter motor runs:
digitalWrite(enginestart, HIGH );
delay(1500);
digitalWrite(enginestart, LOW );
// amount of time choke stays on after start:
delay(1000);
choke.write(0);
// delay for if loop recycle - gives generator time to provide feedback -
delay(7000);
}
else {
// ignition on hold command:
digitalWrite(enginerun, HIGH );
delay(1);
}
}
while (digitalRead(startstop) == LOW) {
delay(1000);
// ignition off:
digitalWrite(enginerun, LOW);
delay(10);
// Housekeeping off command:
choke.write(0);
delay(10);
digitalWrite(enginestart, LOW);
delay(10);
}
}
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Ford F-150 2005 Gauge cluster swap - new cluster out of FX-4 - Part 1
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This video explains how to swap your cluster and maintain all functions. It also will update the odometer. I used the Xprog 5.55 device to read the chip. Update!! Made a part 2. Found issues with this method and made a new video to show you the correct way. ua-cam.com/video/BKkf9EURMb8/v-deo.html
Have have a gauge without a tac but if I use a bass model cluster with a tac will I have to program it if both trucks are a xl
2 questions (I know this is 4 yrs old, but just for thought). Why did you change the line, save, transfer over, instead of just changing the same line on the new cluster? And 2nd question: why is a guy as smart as you driving an 05 model? (just kidding, I love my 05).
How much you charge me to do one for me
Your hex editor is identical to what I used to produce(except in a paper printout) when debugging Assembler programs back in the 1980's. All of the double FF bits are high values. A "1C" is a packed positive number 1. If the C was replaced with a D, it would be a negative 1. The decimal number is unpacked it appears as an "F1".
I did the swap on my 07 xlt but my ac wouldn’t work any ideas anyone had this problem
Use forscan with liscense
Can I contact you for more information please Hope you still read you post...
Joseph, This is a nice little project and I realize that for you, this was a while ago. I have only acquired my Predator 8750 recently. I too would like to make it remote start and stop. Is there any way the get the Adruino code as a file, please? I just cannot read it on my screen well enough to transcribe it into and Arduino sketch. Thanks Pete
I have a 2007 ford STX. I took a lariat gague cluster out of another ford truck at a junkyard and when I put it in, my AC stopped blowing cold, I put my stock dash back in (which doesn't have a tach, thus reason why I got the lariat cluster) and AC started blowing cold again. Do I have to do what you did in this video to get it working? I seen you said there's multiple parts to the video? Please help🙏
Yea man our 07 up f150 are canbuss enabled meaning there are data wires running to the bcm and various components in the vehicle. My old lady had a malibu and I pulled the stock stereo out and drove to the store to get a part for the stereo and the entire dash was off and had no reading from the ac controls or anything so I assume that's your problem because my alarm on my 07 has been a pain to figure out and wire into the bcm the way I want to.
Nicely done, the only hard part is opening the control panel. And for my case figuring out how to hold the servo for the choke because my generator has it on the front. Do automative relays have diodes inside? If they don't have a diode I think it would be a good idea to add them to the relays that share the PSU with the Arduino.
Wow that was Kool to look at. I only wish I could send you a tac like the one you did and do it for me. Well many I can get someone at Ford to do it. Thanks for the knowledge.
Do you have this in English for regular people
Hi Kris, I’m not sure how I could deliver the amount of information needed to complete this task any other way. I would be happy to try and answer any questions. I’m sorry to hear it was not as clear as I hoped. I’m not a trained teacher and I’m sure my delivery could use some polish.
I want to do this to my truck but I hate electronics with a passion. Using them that is. So could I just have the dealer fix it if I have any issues?
Hello sir i am trying to get the same thing on my 2004 ford f150 XL. If i buy the FX4 Cluster ship it to you, can you program it and have it ready and perfect so i can just plug it back in a be all set!? Ill pay for the whole process!
Looks good man, came here from your autostart video. trying to make one for my predator 9000 now
Thank you, I’ve made a few changes. I have more batteries and I took down the wind turbine. The generator auto start video is missing a few details. In the schematic I neglected to put pull down resistors on the inputs. They are required to operate correctly.
You are literally my favoritst is UA-camr ever but this video was from so long ago will there be more!? 🤌🤌
Is this still the best way to do this? And do you have a column or console shift? I want to swap a FX4 cluster to my FX4 that has a XLT cluster in it now, but all the FX4 clusters I see all have "FX4" where the PRND12 are?
Hey Jason. I don’t know if this is the best way, it was the cheapest way I could come up with. I noticed the same thing but I got the fx4 cluster anyway. While inspecting the fx4 cluster I discovered you can simply remove the fx4 plastic and replace it with the shift indicator. Clicks right in like it was made for it.
What would you charge to do mine. It's a 05 Ford f150
Hey Tommy, I’m sorry but I don’t offer this as a service. I simply wanted to share what I did in hopes it would help others who are trying to do the same thing.
What so howd you get rhe ac going?
I don't know what you mean. Can you explain?
Could I create an eeprom programmer with an arduino, if so, how would I program the arduino? All the eeprom programmer videos I see use a lot more than just the 4 pins that are used in this video and I was wondering how I could get it to work. Would it be similar to how those programmers work?
Sorry about the late reply. I don’t check this often. The BDM connection supplies power and a 2 way data path to the microcontroller they use for the cluster. In my video I am simply doing a hex dump. If you have another means of performing this without the Xprog box, I say good work friend. I originally searched UA-cam myself for people using the BDM connector and found a guy who explained it’s use well, but he used a different device.
Great information, could you provide a better resolution electrical diagram. Thank you.
I would, but to be honest I tried using the diagram the other day myself and realized I forgot to add pull down resistors. I really need to make a better video. Life has me busy at the moment, but hopefully I will get one up this summer with way better everything. In my new controller I have added a few more features.
@@josephhuwe9720 hey man, great stuff. would love to get an update copy if ya can!
I put a FX4 cluster in my 2005 XLT. I have manual heater control. My AC stopped working. But when I put my original cluster back on it works fine. Is there a way to fix this.?? I don't like the oem boring cluster Also the low tire light is always on my truck did not have tire sensors
Yeah if you watch both part 1 and and part 2 of my videos and follow what i did it will correct all those issues. I had the same problem before I reprogrammed the new cluster. Also it will correctly display your trucks mileage after.
Can you forward an eCopy of the drawing and program?
How much would you charge me to take the data from old cluster to a Lariat one that I got
Joseph, I just found your video after purchasing a Predator 9000 yesterday. My application will be fully automated household backup power. My goal to DIY a autostart circuit with powered choke. I already have the commercial switch gear for the house and utility side. However I need the 9000 to respond to dry contacts and build in delays for transfers. I have some experience with esp devices mostly for home automation. I think your work will help me get started. Thank you David
I’m glad to hear this helped. It sounds like a perfect solution for your situation. One mistake I made was mounting the electronics all in the same electrical compartment on the generator. I wish I would have mounded it all in a separate box. Also I would modify the code to only try 3 times or something. When mine ran out of gas it kept trying to restart and fried the starter motor.
@@josephhuwe9720 good suggestions. 1-What is best description of choke servo for searching? 2-On schematic are you using 12v lighter port to detect generator is running? 3-Are UNO pins 5 & 7 reversed on the drawing? Reading the code made me think they might be.
David, 1) The servos I used were just off the shelf hobby servos. In fact I used the cheapest ones I could find. Next I connected it to the choke using a few small ball joints and a small shaft, all from an old remote controlled car. Here is a link to what I got. www.amazon.com/4-Pack-MG996R-Torque-Digital-Helicopter/dp/B07MFK266B/ref=sr_1_8?crid=1I6OH0I16OQ3G&dchild=1&keywords=hobby+servo&qid=1614842166&sprefix=hobby+ser%2Caps%2C226&sr=8-8 2) I used the 12 VDC output for two things. The first, is for sensing GEN on condition. The second, for DISABLING the starter relay. I did this because during testing and some unforeseen and rare events it was possible for the starter motor to fire up while the engine was already operating, this prevented that. 3) I just looked at the code and the lame drawing I made and yes. I messed up on the drawing, good catch! Swap 5 and 7 in the schematic and you are good to go.
@@josephhuwe9720 thank you for the reply. I hope to start on it this week!
Please don’t forget about generator safety as well and please keep your children safe when using gas generators ua-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/v-deo.html thank you. Just hoping everyone stays safe.
I just did this 06 F150 XL plain jane cluster to an 08 FX4 cluster. Used ForSCAN and my AS Built data and it worked perfectly. It was easy.
Right on. I like hearing different ways to get this done. I did it my way because I had the xprog box already. Also I could not find any good procedures for doing this without high cost or begging a dealer for help. Thanks again for sharing.
@@josephhuwe9720 No trouble, be well.
What is the model number of that XPROG and how has the new cluster been working out?
Been working perfectly. But you do have to follow the procedure in part 2
Xprog 5.5 is what I used
How much would you charge to programed and ready to go on a 05 f150
Hey Carlos. I don’t know. I never thought about providing this as a service. If you think shipping both those consuls to me and back would be cheaper then a 50 dollar xprog box I would be willing to help you out.
@@josephhuwe9720 awesome I would really like to purchase new gauges don’t like the boring ones once I purchase I’ll be willing to pay shipping both ways and for your service
@@josephhuwe9720 tiradocarlos13 @gmail.com
I don't suppose I could talk you into a video showing the actual product and installation? I am struggling to get good reference material on the process and no offense, but your paperwork just confuses me. I am a hands on guy.
Hey Ian, I'm sorry for the drawing and lack of instruction in the video. When I made the thing I didn't draw a schematic or take video, and I regret that but I wanted to share all the basics so people could try for them self. I would gladly remake the video but it would be no time soon unfortunately. The equipment is currently snowed in 300 hundred miles away from my house and I need to wait for the snow in the mountains to melt before I can get to it. I would be happy to answer your questions but I should warn you that the code needs polish. I chewed up a starter because I forgot about accounting for the generator running out of gas.
@@josephhuwe9720 basically ia an taking a remote relay box (I'll post a link) and am going to need to wire it to have one relay perform the function of the switch. One relay to run a universal door actuator (choke). And beating in mind that I don't understand coding, how do I wire it lol. Tomorrow or Saturday I'll pull the generator and get the panel off and get comfortable with the wiring. The hands on comes easy to me. The diagrams and paper representations are Chinese to me.
@@josephhuwe9720 so I got the panel off and took a jumper wire (I know i could have fried things...) and touched the battery pos to connections on the switch and didn't find the one that engaged the starter. Then I jumpered neg to the one I suspected and sure enough starter engaged. So I will need to wire the relay in the wireless box to momentarily engage negative during button push. This is way simpler then I thought! Since the setup on the relays is dummy proof I simply need to wire neg in and neg to the wire on the switch. I'll Y into the wire on the switch so it's still able to be started by the switch and Bob's your uncle! I may do a video on this as I found no usable video for my application! If I do I'll put a link in here!
Sorry it took me so long to respond. That is real cool, I can't wait to see your video. I would really like to see your setup. I to plan on making more videos this summer while at my property. Please do share!
Hope the video in pt 1 has a description saying look for part two
Hey, Thanks for the input. I don't use UA-cam much and don't know all the finer details. I thought I set it up so people have easy access to the part 2 link. And yes! You need to also watch part 2 or it does not work right. I didn't want to remake the video because it had all the details.
Joseph, Very nice creation. I live off-grid in the Texas Panhandle. 18Kw of solar array, 4 wind genny's and a backup Predator 8700 gas generator. Have been considering converting the Predator to remote start since my power station is 100 feet from my cabin. I am a retired Electronics Tech but have little experience with the Uno. There are a few additional functions that would be nice to include if possible. I would like to collaborate with you on a short term project if you have the time. I designed the AirBoss 1.4Kw wind generator years ago of which I have one running here currently. I have a couple of spare generators if you are interested in wind power as well.
Here is a reminder about portable generator safety: This advice is just to make sure that everyone is aware of all the warnings and it’s just to remind people to be careful using portable generators. Everyone has to see this safety reminder for safety. Every year, hundreds of people die or get injured when using portable generators due to carbon monoxide poisoning and electrocution. Make sure you are using your generator carefully and keeping others safe as well. There is something very serious that everyone should always be aware of when using generators. Some people do run their generator indoors which is not safe and that increases the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning which can cause death of family and you. Some people run their generator in wet conditions which can electrocute them. Please remember that you should never run your generator indoors. Remember that carbon monoxide is an odorless and colorless gas that you cannot see or smell. Carbon monoxide is a silent killer. Keep that in mind. Make sure your generator is 15-20 feet away from your house and away from doors, windows, and vents. Never use your generator in your porch too. Having a carbon monoxide detector is very important against generator safety. Some people also allow children to go near the portable generator which could pose risks. We need to keep an eye on our children making sure that they are not near the portable generator so they won’t get electrocuted or burned by the generator which is dangerous. A locking enclosure also keeps kids safe. A generator shed might look like a tempting place to explore, or take cover during a game of hide and seek, but a generator is a dangerous piece of equipment that can cause injury. It says on the manual that we should also keep children away at all times from the portable generator to avoid injuries. Please do not allow a child or unqualified people to operate the portable generator. Just because some manuals missed what should be listed doesn’t mean it’s safe to do. Always follow the generator safety rules when using portable generators. Generators pose electrical risks. If you need to use your generator during wet weather, you need a generator tent to protect your generator from getting wet. Don’t let your generator get wet. Keep your generator dry and before using your generator, please make sure your hands and your generator is dry. Do not wear loose clothing when operating the generator. Everything that is said on the generator’s operating manual should not be ignored. Never smoke cigarettes near the generator. Please keep flammable things away from the generator. Never overload your generator too. Your generator can catch fire. Never ever try to plug a generator cord into a wall outlet to avoid back feeding. Back feeding your generator is dangerous. Always turn on your generator first before plugging in appliances and shut off the appliances before turning your generator off. Use a heavy duty cord for your generator and the cord should not be worn out. All the instructions should be followed carefully. Never refuel your generator while it’s running. It can cause fire if fuel spills while your generator is hot. You should turn off your generator and let it cool off before refueling it. Having a fire extinguisher next to the generator is also important. This is only a reminder for everyone’s safety of using generators. Make sure your generator is properly grounded. ua-cam.com/video/I1jT3ANENvI/v-deo.html and here is a video more about keeping others safe when using generators and also about our family’s safety. Hope this helps. Thank you.
Did you do any work on this?
@@colemanglover6 Not yet... I was hoping for a clearer diagram from the UA-cam poster. I have all the components he listed. The project is important for my power station. I have received the upgrade components to my solar array and have began installation of two MppSolar LV6548 charger/inverters and 25 more (250W) solar panels (88) in total. The final system will be 25Kw (48vdc) solar input and 13Kw 240vac split phase to my cabin. The MppSolar model has an auto start feature for my generator. I will be installing the auto choke/auto remote start hardware and software early fall. Its a big project. +$20K Forward your email address if you would like to collaborate on the auto start portion or any portion of the project. I have discovered many interesting issues and creative design fixes on this 5 year solar/wind alternative energy journey.
@@mgold4685 crg169773@gmail.com gonna order everything myself and give it a shot
Nice job 👌 buddy
Thanks
so magical...I'd poop in that.
Yeah. That is part of the magic
So if I have an xlt what all would I have to do to it? Considering I already have a tach. I'm able to buy an fx4 cluster right now but idk what all I need to do to get it working
If I were you and you wanted to make the change I would watch part 2 of this video. You don’t need to edit line AF0 but if you follow the rest of the steps I n part 2 you will get accurate mileage.
so I have a xlt too, have a lariat cluster, where can I get this type of work done on the odometer.
I don't really know. I have seen things on eBay. Someone says they can program it and you mail it to each other. I wanted to do it myself so I never looked to hard in to having a shop do it. I figured it would cost to much.
do you have a diagram of the xprog connections, very fast camera movement and couldn't see them
I will put something together for you when I get home from work.
This makes me want to poop...
Me too
Where did you get the chip to reprogram?
I am reprogramming the built in chip on the cluster.
@@josephhuwe9720 The XProg chip to reprogram, I have a different cluster and need it reprogrammed that's why. Do You have a Business?
No I don’t. I just wanted a tachometer on my truck. I also like messing around with electronics. I posted what I did to save the days of work for someone else. I would have to figure out whatever you have to help you. Sorry friend.
@@josephhuwe9720 It's No problem... I wanted a swap but I figured You're from Oregon due to Location on the channel and I'm from Texas. Thanks for Responding, I need a reprogram as well from an XLT Cluster to a STX Really Appreciate it.
@@josephhuwe9720 this be the device?www.amazon.com/dp/B088WY4GJ5/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_e2UxFbF4FC9D9