I always feel like it was strange for lorelai to tell chris not give up sleeping on benches in paris. Wouldnt you want your man with you why would you push him away. Maybe she didnt really love him and getting pregnant made her realize that. Or she felt guilty being pregnant meant the couldnt sneak to Paris. I do feel she kind of pished chridtopher away but christopher shouldve been a man from start and worked hard to earn the trust of lorelai and his daughter. His parents did not instill that in him it shows and its sad. 😔
Lorelei has always been mad. To be honest, I love Gilmore girls as a show, but I honestly don't even see the point of why Lorelei had to be the way she was growing up and finally as an adult, I don't think she deserved her parents to be honest
Gotta love Richard here. He sits there listening to everyone’s hysterics and abuse, when someone finally asks what the solution is, he stands up declares what the plan is and ends the discussion. Be more like Richard.
I just love how Christopher was willing to actually marry Lorelai and sacrifice his plans of going to Europe and traveling around to be with her and support her. Looking at clips like these really does show you that Lorelai had no plan whatsoever. I mean, marriage at a young age I can get, it's a no in my book. I mean, it's her choice for sure but at the same time, at least Emily and Richard had a plan. Having Christopher stay with them and work at Richard's firm until he finished college or whatever didn't seem like such a bad plan. I mean, it was more of a plan than Lorelai had, which was none. She had no plan at all. She was willing to just "figure it out", instead of actually coming up with a reasonable plan that would benefit her and her baby (Rory) just fine. I understand that Richard and Emily weren't the best parents in the world, hell they weren't perfect but nobody is truly perfect in this world and I'm sure that Lorelai wasn't the best daughter either. She made a choice to have unprotected sex, she knew the consequences and still decided to go ahead and do it. I agree that she should hold blame and so should Christopher as well.
You love how the guy who ultimately abandoned his first kid and was a shit father to both his kids was, for a brief second, willing to give up a trip to Europe? Right, he should get a parade.
@@janise01 Excuse me read my first comment all the way through because clearly you didn't. I never said that I liked how he abandoned Rory or his other child. I said I loved how he was willing to step up the first time around. Seriously, please read before you comment back. Thanks
I would love a prequel where we get to see the younger versions of Lorelai and Christopher, but since there is no more Edward Hermann, don't see that happening anytime soon.
It is wild that they're all making these huge decisions about Lorelai and Christopher and it doesn't occur to them to talk to the kids about what they might like to do.
Emily and Richard love Lorelei unconditionally. There was no question of ‘sending her away’ and they wanted her and Christopher to live with them, with their child. That being said, they were also distant, controlling, insensitive, narcissistic, critical, and manipulative, so they were not good parents. Highlighted by how neither asked Lorelei what she wanted, and the way Emily yelled at Lorelei when she was in labour.
No they were defending the culture and ideas of their time. Which as much as we have issues with them them they did hold society together, now we have obesity, crime, welfare dependency, debt and mental health crisis.
@saltnessmonster but the flashback takes place in 1984 in the 80s this wasn't like a century earlier in the 19th century where upper class or upper middle class people have a huge influence on soicety. Plus we see Christopher mom Francine crying about how Christopher is still a child and is too young to have a child at age 16 which is a very modern late 20th century perspective. A 100 years earlier or earlier that century 16 year Olds being parents and having a child at 16 wasn't soically unacceptable
I could never be team Emily and Richard. They are to controlling and they never once cared or listened to Lorelai. It's all about there pride and social status.
What Lorelai wanted is so simple for her parents to ask her first what's her plan after she got pregnant they treated her as if she couldn't think for herself the moment she got pregnant. Emily and Richard clearly meant well but I guess they were a victim of their times, social class and generation. Where a woman was supposed to get married if she gets pregnant. That never works now we all know that. Just because two young people get married because they have a kid doesn't mean their marriage would be healthy. It could even be worse if their marriage life is full of fights later on due to them being teenage parents and then their kid is just watching them do that at an early age if what happened with them is in 2020 or something co-parenting would have been really been accepted and treated normally. I guess it's because their parents from both sides came from old money that they don't accept new ideas of parenting methods back then.
Seriously, I will never understand how Lorelai could hate her parents as much as she does. Emily resolutely defends her and refuses to even consider the idea of shipping her off like some kind of shameful secret. And yeah, Richard is a bit heavy handed in his whole "they'll get married" declaration. But he is clearly not doing it because "it's socially proper," but because in his mind that is how you build a home and support network for his coming grandchild and provide the best life for his daughter. They weren't perfect, but they certainly don't deserve any of the bullshit Lorelai heaps upon them...
It's Lorelai's fault that Rory grew up without a father present and that Rory became such a failure (highly correlated!). It's just sad to see that never once did she have to own up to her depriving her daughter of a stable father figure. Maybe Christopher would've skipped town anyway, who knows, but he never got the chance to prove himself. Possibly this moment cemented his incapability to be responsible.
Oh bull shit. It's Chris's fault for not fighting for Rory and not taking responsibility for his action. Who says Chris can have a free pass for not being a dad.
Typical guy blaming the women for something she didn't do. It takes two to tango and it also takes two takes responsibility for their action like Lorelai did. Chris is a fuckin coward.
They were being so horrible to Lorelai. It just proves that they didn’t love her, no matter what. Why don’t they blame Christopher? He was the one who got her pregnant. He wanted to have s*x and he wasn’t careful. I hated when Emily and Richard were so mad at Lorelai for years, but they are in love with Rory!
I find emily normally annoying but huge shoutout to her for not wanting Lorelei to get an abortion. I do think they should have asked the kids their opinions but the idea was good to have them get married (when it is legal for them to do so) and have him work there. I feel like the Gilmore parents seem like the type to want their daughter to have an abortion but no. Hats off to them :) also I hate how “Christopher’s future is out the window” like I hate how men get a free pass on all that.
But Lorelai's parents were really supportive of her, she should've accepted their economic help. I don't undertand why she wanted to leave her house so young...
Pride plays a factor, but I think it's because she never wanted that life and she wanted out. It's also likely she felt as if she brought shame to her parents and that she believed they wanted her gone.
I think Emily has shown that "help" from her comes with a million strings and having it constantly thrown in your face. It would've just been a way to exert more control over Lorelai's life and undermine her with Rory.
Marrying at they`re age !?! Lorelai knows Chris much better than he knows himself He can`t commit to ANYTHING let alone being a dad a husband and working at a place where he does not fit in Emily and Richard are the better grandparents than the Hayden`s
i like how people get mad at lorelai for not wanting to get married to chris at sixteen as if it were emotionally feasible for them to do so or as if chris agreeing to it absolves him of his future bad parenting like do child marriage laws not exist? hello?
i get where u are coming from completely. however it would be good if lorelai accepted some help from anyone. she wouldn’t know she would have made it and taking such huge risk could have had detrimental consquences especially for rory. it would have been good at least for some years to have a partner to share all these things with. she became so attached to rory that sometimes i think she barely had any life beyond. her relationship with rory. she needed a pal, a partner and rory many times took the role of a friend when she wasn’t supposed to making her too mature for her age which i strongly think led to her breakdown eventually.
Well in America child marriage or minior marriage is still legal in the USA this flashback takes place in the 80s 1984 I'm sure it was more likely back than than in the 21st century in Connecticut which is the American state which Gilmore girls takes place the Marriage age was 16 years old with permission from parents and guardians the law wasn't changed untill 2023 in real life to 18 years old completely banned child marriage. So it would have been perfectly legal.
What episode is this
Emily had her flaws, but dammit, she was quick to defend Lorelai's honor.
i love emily in this scene
I always feel like it was strange for lorelai to tell chris not give up sleeping on benches in paris. Wouldnt you want your man with you why would you push him away. Maybe she didnt really love him and getting pregnant made her realize that. Or she felt guilty being pregnant meant the couldnt sneak to Paris. I do feel she kind of pished chridtopher away but christopher shouldve been a man from start and worked hard to earn the trust of lorelai and his daughter. His parents did not instill that in him it shows and its sad. 😔
Richard and Emily might have their issues with Lorelai but they sure did love their daughter.
It’s funny that Rory’s other grandma plays Jess’s mom on Heroes.
And Prue Halliwell's boss on Charmed.
Lorelei has always been mad. To be honest, I love Gilmore girls as a show, but I honestly don't even see the point of why Lorelei had to be the way she was growing up and finally as an adult, I don't think she deserved her parents to be honest
Gotta love Richard here. He sits there listening to everyone’s hysterics and abuse, when someone finally asks what the solution is, he stands up declares what the plan is and ends the discussion. Be more like Richard.
Where was THIS Emily throughout the show?! The Emily who defended and fought for her daughter!
I just love how Christopher was willing to actually marry Lorelai and sacrifice his plans of going to Europe and traveling around to be with her and support her. Looking at clips like these really does show you that Lorelai had no plan whatsoever. I mean, marriage at a young age I can get, it's a no in my book. I mean, it's her choice for sure but at the same time, at least Emily and Richard had a plan. Having Christopher stay with them and work at Richard's firm until he finished college or whatever didn't seem like such a bad plan. I mean, it was more of a plan than Lorelai had, which was none. She had no plan at all. She was willing to just "figure it out", instead of actually coming up with a reasonable plan that would benefit her and her baby (Rory) just fine. I understand that Richard and Emily weren't the best parents in the world, hell they weren't perfect but nobody is truly perfect in this world and I'm sure that Lorelai wasn't the best daughter either. She made a choice to have unprotected sex, she knew the consequences and still decided to go ahead and do it. I agree that she should hold blame and so should Christopher as well.
You love how the guy who ultimately abandoned his first kid and was a shit father to both his kids was, for a brief second, willing to give up a trip to Europe? Right, he should get a parade.
@@janise01 Excuse me read my first comment all the way through because clearly you didn't. I never said that I liked how he abandoned Rory or his other child. I said I loved how he was willing to step up the first time around. Seriously, please read before you comment back. Thanks
I would love a prequel where we get to see the younger versions of Lorelai and Christopher, but since there is no more Edward Hermann, don't see that happening anytime soon.
Strobe is ... impossible. "Shut up Francine!" ...
Why was adoption never on the table?
good video
Daaamn why did they cast Chris like that
I love how Emily defended Lorelei and stuck up for her
It is wild that they're all making these huge decisions about Lorelai and Christopher and it doesn't occur to them to talk to the kids about what they might like to do.
Is this a flash back ?
what episode is this?
Emily and Richard love Lorelei unconditionally. There was no question of ‘sending her away’ and they wanted her and Christopher to live with them, with their child. That being said, they were also distant, controlling, insensitive, narcissistic, critical, and manipulative, so they were not good parents. Highlighted by how neither asked Lorelei what she wanted, and the way Emily yelled at Lorelei when she was in labour.
No they were defending the culture and ideas of their time. Which as much as we have issues with them them they did hold society together, now we have obesity, crime, welfare dependency, debt and mental health crisis.
@@saltnessmonster True, but that can only justify their behaviour to a certain degree.
God we must watch different shows. They were vile to her.
@saltnessmonster but the flashback takes place in 1984 in the 80s this wasn't like a century earlier in the 19th century where upper class or upper middle class people have a huge influence on soicety. Plus we see Christopher mom Francine crying about how Christopher is still a child and is too young to have a child at age 16 which is a very modern late 20th century perspective. A 100 years earlier or earlier that century 16 year Olds being parents and having a child at 16 wasn't soically unacceptable
Obviously Lorelai's parents were "monsters". I'll always be team Emily and Richard
I could never be team Emily and Richard. They are to controlling and they never once cared or listened to Lorelai. It's all about there pride and social status.
I LOVE the fact that Emily and Richard never once talked about abortion. I love them.
Lorelai could have lived with Christopher... and gave the child his surname, Hayden
Lorelai didn't have to give Rory Chris's last name. And Lorelai didn't want to live with Chris.
What Lorelai wanted is so simple for her parents to ask her first what's her plan after she got pregnant they treated her as if she couldn't think for herself the moment she got pregnant. Emily and Richard clearly meant well but I guess they were a victim of their times, social class and generation. Where a woman was supposed to get married if she gets pregnant. That never works now we all know that. Just because two young people get married because they have a kid doesn't mean their marriage would be healthy. It could even be worse if their marriage life is full of fights later on due to them being teenage parents and then their kid is just watching them do that at an early age if what happened with them is in 2020 or something co-parenting would have been really been accepted and treated normally. I guess it's because their parents from both sides came from old money that they don't accept new ideas of parenting methods back then.
Seriously, I will never understand how Lorelai could hate her parents as much as she does. Emily resolutely defends her and refuses to even consider the idea of shipping her off like some kind of shameful secret. And yeah, Richard is a bit heavy handed in his whole "they'll get married" declaration. But he is clearly not doing it because "it's socially proper," but because in his mind that is how you build a home and support network for his coming grandchild and provide the best life for his daughter. They weren't perfect, but they certainly don't deserve any of the bullshit Lorelai heaps upon them...
If you don't see how Emily treats Lorelai in the show then you will never understand Lorelai at all.
And Lorelai don't deserve the bull shit they did to her.
Chris was just as responsible for Lorelei getting pregnant. It takes two people to make a baby.
It's Lorelai's fault that Rory grew up without a father present and that Rory became such a failure (highly correlated!). It's just sad to see that never once did she have to own up to her depriving her daughter of a stable father figure. Maybe Christopher would've skipped town anyway, who knows, but he never got the chance to prove himself. Possibly this moment cemented his incapability to be responsible.
Oh bull shit. It's Chris's fault for not fighting for Rory and not taking responsibility for his action. Who says Chris can have a free pass for not being a dad.
Typical guy blaming the women for something she didn't do. It takes two to tango and it also takes two takes responsibility for their action like Lorelai did. Chris is a fuckin coward.
Christopher’s mum is Peter Petrelli’s mum. How interesting! 😂
The casting for young Lorelei was top tier
lorelai emily that's enough
oh yeah you told them
emily are you ok?
I luv when Lorelei said no no no to being controled
When you see Strobe yelling at Francine, it really shows you how much better Richard and Emily's marriage is in comparison
Yeah Emily would never let that slide if Richard started yelling at her.
''Christopher is just as much to blame as Lorelai is'' I love Emily in this scene.
Could someone tell me, which episode this is, please?
They were being so horrible to Lorelai. It just proves that they didn’t love her, no matter what. Why don’t they blame Christopher? He was the one who got her pregnant. He wanted to have s*x and he wasn’t careful. I hated when Emily and Richard were so mad at Lorelai for years, but they are in love with Rory!
You clearly missed the part where Emily points out that Christopher was just as responsible and she didn't take his dad trash talking her daughter.
Richard and Emily got mad at Lorelai because she shut them out first
I find emily normally annoying but huge shoutout to her for not wanting Lorelei to get an abortion. I do think they should have asked the kids their opinions but the idea was good to have them get married (when it is legal for them to do so) and have him work there. I feel like the Gilmore parents seem like the type to want their daughter to have an abortion but no. Hats off to them :) also I hate how “Christopher’s future is out the window” like I hate how men get a free pass on all that.
I just noticed how much rory looked like christopher's mother
Which season is this?
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Perfect example of how the girl is almost always blamed and responsible and the boy is thevictim and his future is at risk. Smh Takes two to tango
Shut up yet the man has no hooves weather to keep the baby or give it away
Like how Emily spoke up & said “No” when Strobe suggested Lorelei get an abortion.
“We are wealthy, white Americans, Dammit! We live in Connecticut! I will be damned if we discuss our feelings!”
But Lorelai's parents were really supportive of her, she should've accepted their economic help. I don't undertand why she wanted to leave her house so young...
Pride plays a factor, but I think it's because she never wanted that life and she wanted out. It's also likely she felt as if she brought shame to her parents and that she believed they wanted her gone.
Lorelai don't need to accept anything that's her choice.
If she felt unloved and not safe in the house whu would she stay.
I think Emily has shown that "help" from her comes with a million strings and having it constantly thrown in your face. It would've just been a way to exert more control over Lorelai's life and undermine her with Rory.
This flashback skyrocketed my respect for Emily
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Marrying at they`re age !?! Lorelai knows Chris much better than he knows himself He can`t commit to ANYTHING let alone being a dad a husband and working at a place where he does not fit in Emily and Richard are the better grandparents than the Hayden`s
i like how people get mad at lorelai for not wanting to get married to chris at sixteen as if it were emotionally feasible for them to do so or as if chris agreeing to it absolves him of his future bad parenting like do child marriage laws not exist? hello?
i get where u are coming from completely. however it would be good if lorelai accepted some help from anyone. she wouldn’t know she would have made it and taking such huge risk could have had detrimental consquences especially for rory. it would have been good at least for some years to have a partner to share all these things with. she became so attached to rory that sometimes i think she barely had any life beyond. her relationship with rory. she needed a pal, a partner and rory many times took the role of a friend when she wasn’t supposed to making her too mature for her age which i strongly think led to her breakdown eventually.
Well in America child marriage or minior marriage is still legal in the USA this flashback takes place in the 80s 1984 I'm sure it was more likely back than than in the 21st century in Connecticut which is the American state which Gilmore girls takes place the Marriage age was 16 years old with permission from parents and guardians the law wasn't changed untill 2023 in real life to 18 years old completely banned child marriage. So it would have been perfectly legal.
“she’s not exactly collected social security” LMAO
I love that the actress acted well as a young Lorelai.
I know we all don't like Christopher but his parents are to blame for all his hang ups.