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Under Leightons theology, when Jesus was brutilized and crucified by the Jews and the Romans, they should be praised for what they did, because they did exactly as God had determined them to do.

You're a more likeable Calvinist, have you ever considered Classical Arminianism?

How does one provide a definition yet still get accused of not defining? It seems like you're talking out of both sides of your mouth. Maybe you mean to say he didn't define it enough...if thats the case, I'd be curious to know what you think Warren is missing in his understanding and/or explanation of total depravity.

It is curious though, how can prayer change something that has been predetermined? If one is given a heart of stone, how would prayer be of any effect? Further, has God not decreed this calamity for him? Make no mistake, I am praying for our brother in Christ, Warren because I believe in the power of prayer and the living God who hears his children cry Abba! James 5:16

The professional anti-Calvinist UA-camrs generally are not pastors and therefore are not held accountable to the requirements of ministers given by the Apostle Paul. If their families fall apart, they can continue on as they were without interruption - as was the case with Kevin Thompson of "Beyond the Fundamentals". They come across as those speaking with "authority", but it is not of God. Thus you see the general nastiness, willingness to attack and quarrel, and sometimes condemn others, even ordained men of God, on a whim. The recent video put out by "Idol Killer" mocking men of God such as MacArthur and Sproul is a case in point. I try not to contribute to their ultimate judgment if they refuse my admonition - that's a means of showing mercy to them as well. If they need rebuking, we must rebuke them, but to continually engage them to the point of stirring them up may be casting pearls before swine, and their hatred of truth will only add to their final suffering in the Lake of Fire if they are not saved.

Not everybody follows every group on every platform so for those that don’t they have no idea what you are talking about. Please provide a written hard copy of *THE* official Reformed Theology definition of “Total Depravity” here in this comment section? I’ll go first and provide the official non-Calvinist understanding of Reformed Theology’s doctrine of “Total Depravity”. ----------> “Total Depravity” is the mental condition at birth of both the predestined to Heaven elect Calvinist lambs and the predestined to Hell non-elect goat people. On Reformed Theology it is 100% impossible for a “Totally Depraved” reprobate goat person to *seek after, believe in, have “faith” in, love, or worship, or be Saved by,* the sovereign Calvinist potter God for the following reasons; [1] the sovereign Calvinist potter God did not impersonally, whimsically and randomly pluck their name out of an Abe Lincoln hat, prior to Creation, and place them in the “elect” pile, [2] the sovereign Calvinist potter God, for reasons unknown, hated the unborn nonchosen goat people, prior to Creation, [3] the sovereign Calvinist potter God did not predestine the nonchosen goat people to be one of the elect, prior to Creation, [4] the sovereign Calvinist potter God *chose to refuse* to force the goat people to have “faith” against their “Totally Depraved” nature and will, in other words he discriminated against them, [5] the sovereign Calvinist potter God *chose to refuse* to force them to be “regenerate” against their “Totally Depraved” nature and will, in other words he discriminated against them, [6] the sovereign Calvinist potter God singled them out so because he needed to barbecue the nonchosen non-elect goat people in Hell for his own good selfish Glory and his own good sadistic pleasure,

Can someone inform me what kind of problems Warren Magrew is going through ?? I keep hearing him ask for money and about problems he is having and I have not heard him define the issue/problems ??

Johnathan Pritchett asked me to define semipelagianism not total depravity, I misspoke there.

Warren is going on about total depravity again tody, he's a broken record.

Also, avoid ad hominem, strawmen, red herrings, etc. simply answer the opponent's questions quickly and concisely or you come across as dishonest. Unelect babies is a great example. Calvinists need to answer "yes, unelect babies go to hell, because election is prior to birth". Quick, concise and honest

at least white is honest enough to say that un elect babies go to hell. disgusting theology, but at least he admits his sick position

you should apologize to Warren since he did define it, but you missed it and critique him for it. Listening is a gift :)

@15:10 Given the Rogue Calvinist v. Idol Killer debate, do you still believe there is "no foundation"? Will you start vocally saying that Calvinists saying this don't know what they are talking about? Because there are Calvinists that do actually believe this, my friend.

Whoever sees this, I need yall help... Can't hold on any longer 😢

On Reformed Theology it makes not the slightest iota of difference whether a person is “Totally Depraved” or not since the only people who are ever Saved are fatalistically hard determined, i.e. singled out to be especially prechosen/preselected/elected/ordained/decreed and predestined, prior to Creation, by the sovereign Calvinist potter God; while the nonchosen non-elect goat people are fatalistically double-predestined, i.e. passed over, so they can be barbecued in Hell for the sovereign Calvinist potter Gods own good selfish glory and his own good sadistic pleasure; never standing a chance, or a hope, or a prayer, of ever being Saved because the merciless unjust sovereign Calvinist potter God is so puny he doesn’t possess the omni-power of omnibenevolence, or the love of or for mercy and justice which would enable him to make provision for the goat people to be Saved like the omnibenevolent "Greatest Possible GOD", i.e. the Provisionist GOD of the Bible, actually does.

Glad you are back. I love listening to you. I quoted that book " 5 Points of Calvinism" to Jordan Hatfield on Total depravity. Great book and helped me too.

If God decrees all things, then all things are done following the will of the Father. In Matt 7:21 Jesus says he does the will of God inherits heaven. Therefore, under Calvinism, everyone is saved because everyone is doing the will of the Father.

@21:57 your a fool. An absolute fool. Repent of your gnostic belief system.

Here is the thing, also: Warren and Leighton both saw their own children sin without being taught to sin; yet, they avoid and deny that reality, because to admit to the reality would crush their own positions. The fact is, they are both pushing an agenda and reaping the money and clout. That is what false teachers have been doing since the Old Covenant.

Whenever people claim to have been Calvinists, my bat senses get heightened and for good reason. These jokers have yet to properly represent Calvinism.

Great analysis of the false teachers. Those guy’s over at Trinity Radio are just as bad as Warren, since they gave him a pass.

You are certain that babies are sinners?

Stay away from calvinism & arminianism. Stay away from fanaticism of men. Follow Jesus, become a Christian. Identify yourself with Jesus Christ not with fallible men like calvin or arminiuns.

This guy’s theology proper is 1 Corinthians 13 and that’s about it and even that he gets wrong.

This is the biggest theological gymnastics I’ve hear in a long time, the confession is not ambiguous it’s extremely clear.

My brother Chris’s I found you

If I understand, you are saying that you know for certain what happens to 'elect infants that die'. However, you don't know what happens to 'non-elect infants that die' because you don't know if there are any 'non-elect infants that die'. So, why not just answer the hypothetical? If there were a 'non-elect infant that died', what would be their fate?

James has repeatedly affirmed there are elect and unelect infants, and that God is free to treat them as He does adults. Where do the unelect go? Eternal torment. Yes, Infant Damnation is not only a logical entailment of Total Depravity, Unconditional Election and Limited Atonement, but it has been affirmed by Augustinians since the time of Augustine through the Reformation and into the present age. James is not alone in affirm ID, other online Calvinists like Chris Date have done so as well. No the view is not universal among Calvinists, but yes it is present. James has posited his view as the moderate between two extremes: on one side are those claiming ALL babies go to heaven, on the other side are those claiming ALL babies go to hell, and James places himself in the middle affirming elect and unelect infants, such that one or more infants go to eternal torment though not all. Make no mistake, James is still affirming infant damnation, just particular infant damnation. Why? Because he sees it as the only consistent view among historic and Confessional Calvinists (and I agree with him in this regard, while disagreeing with him on the view itself). Recently, you tweeted at James, practically begging him to deny his affirmation of Infant Damnation and he did not avail himself of the opportunity. Why? Again, because he affirms it.

After Flowers last debate with White I'm calling him the king of Strawmen.

It took you 19 mins to get to the beginning of your explanation lol. So the westminster confession calls out elect infants to be logically consistent with the rest of their systematic. Why does it call it out infants then and leave it hanging if that is the intent? There is no point in calling out infants or others. If you think of it as venn diagrams then it's logically consistent within calvinism that they are burning in hell due to your doctrine of original sin. either way you want to explain it... calvinistic interpretation of scripture is still missing from the first 400 years of church theology. Why is that?

Monergism is the only view that "could have " a view that infants are saved. Synergists believe that a response is necessary for grace to be applied. We know that God is merciful and mighty, therefore a doctrine affirming infant salvation could only exist in the calvinist view of salvation. I agree with you completely that we don't know, but we do know God will never be unjust.

Where is it that I can get a clarification of the gospel on your channel..?

Been awhile. Yes. I have missed you and was hoping to see a video on this.

That kind of parsing of words, wiggling around doctrines and ignoring historical claims doesn’t get you out of the irrefutable factual dilemma that the sovereign Calvinist potter God whimsically, impersonally and randomly, i.e. for no known reason, pulls the names of the elect Calvinist lambs out of an Abe Lincoln hat prior to Creation and predestines them to Heaven against their “Totally Depraved” will. By the same token the non-chosen non-elect “Totally Depraved” invincibly ignorant names of the goat people remaining in the hat are then passed over and predestined to Hell, so the sovereign Calvinist potter God is able, in the future, to barbecue them in Hell for his *own good selfish glory and his future own good sadistic pleasure.* So for all intents and purposes the sovereign Calvinist potter God’s predestining the barbecuing of "Totally Depraved" invincibly ignorant goat people, in general, in Hell, newborn or not, for his *future own good selfish glory and his future own good sadistic pleasure* is no different than Baal’s newborn infant children sacrifices.

I'm honestly thinking about calling myself a Sproul inist. Because people won't accept I'm not going to argue there strawman. He lays out the five points in detail.

I think I can wipe this whole debate away for both sides of this discussion. Ephesians 1:3-12 is clearly speaking about Jews (we who first trusted/hoped in Christ [if this had been written in Hebrew he most likely would have used Mashiah]). Paul is definitely _not_ speaking about the Ephesians because he clearly includes them starting in verse 13 where he switches from "us" and "we" to "you", and proceeds to explain to the Ephesians how they are also included in Christ. The same holds true for Romans, which was written for the benefit Jews (those who were previously under the law). So, I think we can put aside the choosing and the predestining as it doesn't speak to Gentiles at all.

All hail the church of the holy arms! America's true religion, gun worship. Guns get more powerful every time Americans make a blood sacrifice on their altar, which is just about every day now.

Miss you Chris. Always love you comments. Of coarse Warren is fine to post videos that literally put words in peoples mouths.

Idol killer is, without doubt, the most perceptive podcast against the heresy of reformed/Calvinism theology. 'IF' man is unable to communicate with God after the Fall, how does a Calvinist explain the Lord speaking with Adam, Eve. Cain, Abel, Prophets, Noah, all those at the baptism of Jesus when all heard the voice of God, etc etc...? Exactly when did this total depravity start?

Did you ever have that discussion with the Provisionist perspective on Ephesians 1

I feel like you have missed the point of Idol Killers video. I think you misunderstood the first point Warren made, and from there the rest of your video careens off the tracks.

calvinism doesn't teach that man is born blind and hardened from birth. we need to stop letting them get away with saying that.

And that’s been pointed out to him countless times that he has placed himself as the objector in Roman’s 9.

Self Determinist, Leighton Flowers, Kevin Thompson, use the only methodology of biblical interpretation unregenerates have to use..Flesh-o-gesis. What is Flesh-o-gesis? The Spirit IS Truth. John 14:7, 15:26, 16:13, 2 Thes 2:13. If you are not born again from above by the will and grace of God alone, you can only understand the Holy Writ from your carnal mind, from your flesh, ie Flesh-o-gesis. Leighton, Kevin, Dr Allen, Braxton, all these Self Determinists, use Flesh-o-gesis.

I noticed one major difference between calvinism and other points of view. The former believes in almighty God and latter believes in almighty man.

Calvinism causes doubt & fatalism. It is another gospel. As a Pastor I hope you will pray & search the scriptures, you will be held more accountable for your teachings from a pulpit.

Here is my issue with Leighton. His whole existence is to disprove Total Depravity and he clearly doesnt even know what it is. Or does he? See, I wouldn't be so charitable to Leighton. He knows what TD is and he purposely misrepresents it in order to decieve and confuse those he is trying to convince. He is a false teacher, who knows whst he is doimg and should be condemned.

Love your videos. I watched Warren on an atheist video and it was not good. I hope more people have alot more discernment on these things. I would love to talk someday brother.

Calvanistic theology is heretical!

I spent a week last month listening to Dr. Michael Haykin talk about Edwards and the puritans. He started the week by saying " If you are a Christian then your beliefs are influenced by Augustine if you like it or not" He called Edwards the Augustine of North America.