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@@ollivihermaa This is a great question and it’s obviously subjective because there are variables such as reaction time, someone’s weight and experience. In our opinion, in an instance like you’ve given, the rappel device had catastrophic failure meaning it dropped quicker than your cheap (25 to 40 lbs breaking strength) carabiner can apply the force required to move the hitch. One thing I should probably have announced slightly better in the video is that I keep my hitch with a light amount of friction on it so that it stays partially engaged. If the device did fail, the drop would apply more force to the hitch (and faster) than my cheap carabiner could apply. The force required to break the hitch while partially loaded is greater than the tensile strength of the cheap carabiner. Another thing worth mentioning is that when people fall, the initial reaction is subjective. Many often reach inward towards trees or branches rather than just pulling on a small piece of paracord… At least that’s what most guys we spoke to, who have suffered a fall (even a short fall) have reported. Also worth mentioning is pulling the cord in any direction other than straight down, would allow the hitch to grab with a stronger force than the carabiner could handle. We did go through a couple of faux falls to reaffirm that the carabiner would bend or break away when the “shock” load was applied by disengaging the gri gri handle. The biggest idea behind this video is that running the high side hitch and tender allows you to use the device in a hands free manner without fear of the device brake failing, so that guys can safely do things like remove their one stick, platforms or other methods from the tree safely. As with all things, practicing letting go of the carabiner (muscle memory) would also assist in making sure the back up performed its function each time. Thank you for the great talking point and hopefully others take the time to think about worse case scenarios like you have.

@@madhuntsadventures Thank you Matt. We enjoyed your video and hopefully you will be able to join us again for a saddle Flaooza. Please stay in touch and perhaps someday we can join you on a hunt

That is actually on us, not them. I will have to speak with AJ about adding suspender loops in the near future. Thank you for the feedback!

John at JRB tree climbing touts a long bridge doubling as a suspenders systems

We are no longer manufacturing gear as we have reached a deal with Ape Canyon outfitters for our saddle builds. If you are looking for a similar amsteel bridge, we recommend checking out Hang Free

There are two important parts to making this work; 1- make sure whatever carabiner, or s biner you use is barely big enough to clip onto the rope. Smaller and tighter is better so that it doesn’t slip off the hitch cord 2- make sure the hitch cord isn’t tight while tending it, if it’s still under load or bound tightly, you’ll be fighting it all the way down. To grab, the cord only needs a partial pull once it’s been set and broke free. Thanks again for watching and if you have any issues feel free to reach out to us. Happy hunting

@@WoodHuntingSaddles thank you for the added tips. That makes sense for sure. I already have a small nite ize s-biner.

Thank you. Give it a try and let us know how it works for you

Hi Zane. We love the super Munter for emergency rappel and that will be on display at our Saddle Flaooza meet up. The negative is if you tie the Munter incorrectly in the dark, that can lead to an accident. Also you can’t ascend on a Munter. A big advantage mechanical belay devices have are that you can connect them on the ground and never come off the device throughout your entire hunt, including your ascent and descent.

Hi thanks for this - I’m using 9mm CE rope for rappel - is a sewn eyed 8mm cord(30ish inches) appropriate for the friction hitch backup here

@@phaupt123 8mm on a 9 mm rope will work with additional wraps but ideally your hitch cord should be between 60 and 80 percent the size of your rappel rope for a more reliable hold. I would recommend 7mm eye to eye cord and try the schwabisch, distel, or our personal favorite: the Cornell hitch. We sell a 29” eye to eye cord that is 7mm on our website.

Thank you! We are glad people are enjoying our products and ideas!

Thank you for the kind words. We do not run a working storefront to visit, however we do meet up and allow people the opportunity to try the products. Also if you’re interested in trying a lot of different saddles and saddle gear the Florida Saddle Hunter meet up is February 25th in Lake George (about an hour and 25 minutes south of Jacksonville). There will be hunters from all over the state of Florida meeting up to show off their saddle set ups, climbing methods as well as an afternoon hog hunt with chances to win saddles and gear.

@@WoodHuntingSaddles that’s sounds great I have sat in a bunch and for the most part there are a lot of great saddles out there. That said if I can support a fellow Floridian and there company I will and I’m sold on your saddle. Look amazing also, are the deluxe and stomp and swamp saddle the same saddle? I would love to try one for sure

The swamp n stomp High pine version is a deluxe with with a couple of added features that come standard (suspender loops and 2 additional loose gear mollies that stay rigid and open to quick connect a carabiner, s biner ect to it

Hunting saddles are a form of fall restraint known as work positioning harnesses. They are not designed to arrest a fall because they do not contain a shock absorbing lanyard, or a dorsal connection point like a 5 point full body harness does. Correct use of a saddle allows no more than 12” of slack therefore limiting or eliminating the chance of a fall. However we were so confident in the strength of our builds that we put them through the FBH/FA drop tests and the saddles held in each scenario. We don’t want this interpreted as it makes them fall arresting, but we do hope it gives our customers a piece of mind knowing their saddles are well made. Thanks again for reaching out and happy hunting

In this video I hooked the hitch carabiner directly onto my bridge however if you are looking for less metal and noise potential, you can hook your friction hitch directly onto the carabiner on your gri gri (or Madrock). We will be releasing another video soon showing a different method of SRT climbing that is a little more advanced. It is more of a sit, stand advance, climb that utilizes the same components as this video along with the addition of a foot loop.

We agree that arms and legs would be a great addition to the testing dummy. The facility explained that to account for this the weight is differentiated between the lower and upper sections to "mirror" the weight balance of a human body.

While we do operate online and do not have store we are located in Jacksonville FL. We also have saddles in a few stores in Florida. If you're local we could work out a meet up or advise where you might be able to get a feel for one. Our Saddles run in three sizes and are based on pant size. Feel free to reach out via email at customerservice@woodhuntingsaddles.com to connect and discuss more in detail.

@Wood Hunting Saddles alright! I'm over here across the state in levy co! I'm going to inquire via email!

Awesome, looking forward to discussing more.

Thanks, we like them too. 😀

Hello, We sell the bridges but not the rope. If you want amsteel rope by the foot check out Eastern Woods Outdoors (double steps. Com) Thanks for the comment.

How or where do you purchase the bridge

Thanks, utilizing the Blake's really does make the Amsteel Bridge adjust easier.

@@WoodHuntingSaddles yeah man today was first ever day trying a saddle and I used my bridge with the linesman rope and it dug into my sides so bad

@@WoodHuntingSaddles but not only do I have 25 feet of amsteel I saw this video so that will be corrected quickly

Which saddle are you running? Also play with your tether height some. A lower tether reduces the angle of pull [typically favored by leaners] which will shift some of the force towards your back, raising your tether height will increase your angle and allow more room for maneuverability but also shifts some of the tension under your thighs, this is often favored by sitters.

Lol, you know where to find us. www.woodhuntingsaddles.com

We agree, you definitely want to keep your belt on and tensioned for safety. If you're in the right saddle that is comfortable and fits your body correctly you shouldn't ever feel the need to loosen or release your belt. Thank you for watching and commenting. If you have any questions please let us know.

Us too. They definitely go hand in hand. Where better if not in a tree? Thanks for the view and comment.

Hey, thanks for the compliment and thanks for watching. We agree that Strata is a fantastic camo pattern and the Deluxe Saddle is supremely safe and comfortable. If you have any questions let us know and we'd be happy to answer. Happy Hunting! 🦌

Thank you for the feedback! If there's ever any particular content you'd like to see, let us know and we'll try to get it up.

Yea we'd like to think it is! Thanks for the explosive comment!

Hi Michael, Our size 3 deluxe is approximately 14 and 1/4” top to bottom when it’s closed and when the pleat is open it’s nearly 18” (17 and 3/4”). We have a little extra spacing on the hips as well so that the strapping doesn’t pull directly over the hip bones.

Awesome, thank you for the comment. We hope you enjoy your product and have an excellent hunting season. Please reach out should you have any questions. We're here to help.

Can't say I disagree with that comment at all. When creating I was going for something "different". So many things are licensed and pose a copyright issue. I'd have picked something much different if that wasn't an issue. Thanks for the feedback though, I do appreciate it. **Update: I reposted a new post with MUCH better music*** ua-cam.com/users/shortsxYNxlgsQypE?feature=share

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Hi Paul, I'm using a the Petzl GriGri Plus. It is very smooth.

Feel free to check out our website, www.woodtreesaddles.com . If you have something specific you are looking for and do not see it on there we'd be happy to discuss.

Hi Jay, Thank you for the feedback, it is genuinely appreciated.

Our pleasure and we apologize for the wind noise. If you need more details or possibly want to know which places to pick up the gear seen in the video please feel free to reach out to us at customerservice@woodtreesaddles.com

Good Evening, The majority of climbing sticks and platforms for elevated hunting stop their rating at 300 lbs. We didn't see alot of value for testing and rating for 350 lbs when there is not a rated climbing method and limited platform options available to match. Thank you for your question and we appreciate the opportunity to provide feedback.

Hi Leonard, That is phenomenal! We're so happy that you're satisfied with your product from Wood Tree Saddles. We appreciate your feedback and look forward to assisting you with your future elevated hunting needs. Thanks, Wood Tree Saddles

Thank you for the positive feedback. We agree! Having secure and safe hunting equipment is of the utmost importance! Stay tuned for more products, testing results, and how to videos.

Good Evening, we appreciate your interest in reviewing our product and are absolutely willing to discuss some options for that. We could not locate anything specific for your channel and wanted to gain some insight into your current hunting experiences and preferences. If you would please reach out to us at customerservice@woodtreesaddles.com we would be happy to discuss further and potentially set a plan in motion.

Good Evening, Thank you for the feedback! We truly appreciate your support and value you as a customer. We would be honored to see some photos of you and your boys enjoying your products. We are truly stoked for you! Should you have any questions or needs please do not hesitate to reach out to us via email at, customerservice@woodtreesaddles.com and we would be happy to assist you. Good Luck and Happy Hunting!

Good Evening, Thank you for your feedback. We certainly appreciate the voice of each enthusiast out there and are open to communications. While I can attest that many products and materials utilized in making a quality hunting saddle are similar in nature, some subtle differences would be the shape design of our saddle, the materials used for our saddle chassis (no polyester seatbelt webbing), an adjustable bridge, as well as utilizing a 1 3/4 “ COBRA® buckles by AUSTRIALPIN™, not the ADF Raptor. I can advise that this is not an attempt to replicate or mock what is already done. It seems that you may be familiar with saddles and may utilize the mantis saddle, which is a great saddle. If that is what you enjoy then we highly encourage you to continue to hunt from that saddle. However, our saddle is definitely not the mantis if you would like the opportunity to get a feel for the product difference, we also encourage that. Our ultimate goal is to provide safe, durable, comfortable, and affordable elevated hunting products for the masses and strongly suggest hunters try a variety of manufacturers and options to find the hunting solution that fits them the best. Lastly, should our company even come close to matching the fan base of some of our more known competitors we would be honored. Again, thank you for watching our promo and providing feedback. Thank you, Wood Tree Saddles, LLC