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@SwingRipper I am curious if, with PC2 out, Redemption cause is still the plan here, or if you'd lean towards Justice (damage mitigation and free attack) or Obedience (either action economy swing or free damage)

I think for the damage thing, I think that's a small issue nested within a lot of PF2E, that by attempting to futureproof and fine tune balancing, it sometimes prevents things from being or even feeling good. For example, Propulsive as a thing. The difference of a low +0 versus a late game +5 is 2 damage without any change to accuracy. That's soooo tiny that it makes it have some feelsbad and makes investment just not that fun even if *technically* it's fine.

Dont agree with the list at all

Another good teleport spell is nature's pathway it can only teleport one person but it's pretty solid spell for primal spellcasters

Legendary survivalist lets you do meme starts. By that I mean living on the sun or in the vacuum of space (If you have a bottle of air or don't need to breathe.) so things get funny then. Also if you have legendary survivalist and legendary sneak, you can sneak into the bone yard, ignore its downsides, and become immortal by removing your name from pharasma's book like what sun wukong did. And this is pretty strong immortality since it lets you live through disintegrate.

In my Kingmaker 2e campaign I used protector tree to make a Fey forest in my downtime

A good class for summoning monsters is the witch just makes sure you pick up cackle by using this feat you do not need to use a action to maintain it which means you are free to cast more spells and you can use your summon at the same time

More of these please

As a PF player, I actually disagreed with the idea that PF math tells a better story. Even without level scaling, a big monster is likely to have resistances, defensive spells, devastating AoOs in a large radius, or a combination thereof that can stop a level 1 fighter from hitting it. And even if the dice are really on the player's side and he gets a lucky crit in, I don't see how that hurts the story. It'll still only take 10% of the HP off at best, after which the bug monster can obliterate the puny human who dared hurt him. In fact, that can help the story: Just as the player wants vengance on that dragon that burned his village, the arrogant dragon will be furious that some lowely bug dared scratch him, and even more so when he finds put that warrior he left for dead is still alive. You can get a nice nemesis-relation going, rather than a "But for me it was Tuesday" villain who has no emotion towards the player. On the other hand, level to hit hinders some other kinds of stories. The Orcish tribes who have banded together in a great horde to raid the kingdom. The evil empire whose vast conscript army has the conquered lands u der their oppressive thumb. The necromancer cabal who has been going around battlefields and graveyards raising an unending tide of zombies. Or any other story where the prime theat is a large number of weaker enemies. This sort of story works mechanically at low levels, when the protagonists struggle to deal with the minions. But by the time the party is high level enough to challenge the Warboss, Emperor or Necromancers, their minions have completely ceased to be a threat. Mechanically, they could park themselves in front of the enemy army and grind it to pieces in a boring but risk-free slog fest. You can introduce Oblivion style "bandits with endgame armor" levels scaling of the minions, but it doesn't make much logical sense. It makes for a much better story mechanically if it's never an option to defeat the whole army with 4 guys. That way you have to infiltrate the leader's lair, fighting through their higher level bodyguards to cut off the snake's head. Now the logical thing for the characters to do is also the more fun thing for the players.

Sentinel Horns + Confabulators = Unlimited Communication? It's been a while since I noticed the potential interaction, and I don't think I ever actually deep dived to see it if would work. I just recall thinking it would be a handy pairing if you were going to need to split the party.

Heal is bonkers, a top level heal can nullify even a critical hit from a level+4 enemy most of the time. I tell my player to prepare a top level heal because no spell can be stronger than heal but he doesn't listen

Does create water do anything to a fire elemental?

I've finally got around to playing a Battle Oracle and...it's actually a lot more fun than I expected. It's a lot more involved than the old Oracle and being a melee Oracle, you also have the fun of maneuvers (Athletics) with Remastered Divine spells and some fun ancestries/heritages. I don't think people need to *love* the RM Oracle, but I really think that RM Oracle feels a lot more fun as a class and not just as a chassis.

I was gonna ask a shield question in the Discord, but decided to ask it here, For The Algo: Using your example at 4:41, what happens if 2nd attack for 9 damage comes at you NEXT round and you shield block? Is the Hardness still there until the shield gets to the broken threshold? So, 9-5 hardness = 4 damage to you and to your shield and your shield now has 12 HP? So it's like Damage Resistance 5 until you hit your shield's BT? I think that's how it works, but I figured I should ask. I'm thinking the alternative would be if your shield takes more damage than it's hardness, it's "gone" so all the damage goes through to the shield.

I know I am late but: Investigator may not pick the feat to use Devise a Stratagem with Athletic for a simple tactic: - start the turn you use devise a stratagem - you roll low like a 1 - you decide to not strike, but to use athletic with your normal str, since you don't have a feat you can now roll to trip/grab. Sure the feat is even better when you roll a 20 because you can decide to disarm and you know that you will remove the weapon from the enemy, so it's a 50/50 for me. I would probably pick it on Dex inventor to make use of manouver I would not use

I still feel weird about the Operative having Expert at level 1, because it just feels like an insane balance overlap with Fighter. I completely agree with you on giving guns flat bonuses for an exclusively starfinder game. I think that would fix a lot of the numbers issues

I think it's pretty neat that multiple community members have independently proposed half dex to damage on guns.

"Eh, that Goblin isn't that bad. It would make for an interesting encounter. Maybe throw one in a group o-DID YOU JUST SAY LEVEL -1?!?!"

"Witchwarper: A Wizard who hit the gym." - @SwingRipper 2024 🤣

I get where you're coming from with the envoy key skill being Cha, but I also don't know what other key skill would really make sense. Int could work, but i feel it then drifts too close to commander. Maybe wisdom, but that has the issue it improves your perception and I dont recall if envoy has rouge perception progression, but i think it does, so you would end up with high initiatve, and I would argue envoy should go after the other buffers but before the martials.

nice video, do you know mark seifters video on playtests? ua-cam.com/video/S6l9wSkT1c4/v-deo.html it gives useful meta knowledge about the paizo playtest environment!

Wow, it's so nice hearing meaningful deep dives into the SF2E experience! Thanks for making this video- I REALLY love SF2E, but feel like there's not a lot of meaningful discussion about it online. I really enjoyed the parts of the video where you talked about the big picture of how guns feel and they change up the game. I feel like people have only been approaching the game as a PF2E supplement, and not the core pitch of "how entirely different is this game once you change all assumptions about its combat". I've always had trouble getting into PF2E, but something about Sf2E's combat and cover system clicks for me more. The books emphasize long ranges, verticality, hazards, and cover as defining combat, and the more I designed my encounters around those strengths the more fun I have. I think your idea for making the power of the system be more gear-based than class-based is nice and intuitive. I agree that damage is VERY swingy at low levels, and it feels like classes are expected to pick up the slack for that. However, when players want to play SF2E and PF2E stuff together, I think i think it's a lot more intuitive to tell people "you can interchange classes as you like, but SF2E guns are much more powerful and you should only have them in a SF2E context". People are going to want to play with entire classes more than specific weapons. I think you have a fair point that Bombard Soldiers get two features which feel so meaningful and impactful, that they should maybe be incorporated into the core class chassis. I have a hard time justifying picking things other than Bombard, and I dont even need to guess that it's Bombard + Stellar Cannon. I actually AM one of those people that felt like Soldiers were on the weaker side when it came to damage and accuracy, but then again...they should be, compared to Operatives and Solarians. (I'm starting to think that a lot of bad Soldier experiences are because It Came From The Vast has you fight enemies in a really tiny room with enemies resistant to common Soldier damage). I think the bombard ability to suppress on a failed save could easily become a core class feature to communicate to players "it's more important that you debuff than it is that your numbers are big". Even tho they're really minor parts of the video, I was kinda shocked to hear you say that Mystics need their vitality network to be simpler and that Operatives need more flexibility in the action economy. I think those are already achieved, actually! The way your player described dumping the entirety of the vitality network at once was NOT my experience playing a Mystic, where I really enjoyed the raw flexibility of being able to heal EXACTLY as much as I needed to, compared to typical spellcasting. The fact that its just a raw number made it SO much easier to keep track of, especially for later feats that have Transfer Costs like "half the prevented damage" or "twice as much as you healed". Similarly, I find that the Operative is actually the most flexible action economy class in the game. While the class immediately presents you with the core inflexibility of aim + fire, I think its' easy to miss that the rest of the class really leans into compressing the action economy to make up for it. This is also why the Operative is a great tutorial class- high flat damage, but it teaches you all about the effectiveness of action compression. At level 2, it's entirely possible to take 6 actions in one turn! (Reload + free Stride, Stride + free Aim, Strike + free Take Cover). Thanks for the in-depth video that has meaningful things to say about SF2E! I hope you cover the game more in the future.

Is the vitality network regaining hp every turn necessary. i think thats the complicated thing. keep the fully regain on a refocus and not do the whole every turn thing and it will be less complicated. give them feats to spend an action to regain half or something so they have an option to replenish but its not something to track every turn.

re: the charges concept for the Vitality Network, aren't you just describing some sort of nerfed Heal font? I actually like the way the Vitality Network the way it is, but then again I don't mind tracking it

11:11 the thrown trait says, "You can throw this weapon as a ranged attack; it is a ranged weapon when thrown." A melee weapon with the thrown trait doesn't count as a ranged weapon until it is actually thrown. I would not count it for requirements such as "You're wielding a gun" because to be wielding something it must be ready to use, not already in flight. But I would count it for abilities like the operative skirmisher's exploit with wording such as "Your ranged Strikes with one-handed ranged weapons" It's a weird space and I hope they tighten their definition of "gun" better before release, and use "gun" more consistently in class features and feats when they intend them to be used with one; such as the above skirmisher's exploit, which feels like it's trying to describe the pistols they supposedly favor. There are also several "you're wielding a gun" feats that call for a ranged strike but DON'T specify it must be with that gun lol But yes, a "cyber-shuriken" being a gun would absolutely track according to their definition

My experience with Soldier is as an Action Hero using a Machine Gun. They use automatic weapons to: 1. Choose the primary target in their cone. 2. Suppress on any strike, not just primary target. And overall, the Errata 3 change to Primary Target is disappointing. You lost the ability to choose a target who succeeded to strike and still have a chance to Suppress, while the Bombard still exists and Suppresses on a success. Now, your ability to choose a primary target is only about sniping a low HP creature. I've been through a handful of combats as this character from levels 1 to 3, and not only does it feel rare to get that proper failure against your auto-fire, but even more rare for that -1 to hit to affect a degree of success. I've been playing a support focused Cloistered Cleric from levels 2 to 10, and Bless still often goes an entire combat without affecting things. Suffice to say, it's hard to say it feels anything but weak, rolling a 2 on 1d8, and creatures with 15+ HP take 1 damage, and also you blew through most of your magazine (which was 1 sp per bullet before errata), and then Suppression didn't really affect the combat afterward. I felt my most useful role was absorbing damage so that the Operative could do giga crits, and the Mystic could heal me (and he did micromanage his Vitality, that network is what made him the most powerful character in our 3-person party).

So my problem with the guardian is that, if I want to be able to consistently lower my enemies attacks by 2 against my allies, I’ll just play a redeemer champion. If they attack my ally they become enfeebled 2 or stupefied 2( meaning the vast majority of attacks and damage rolls will be at -2) and that reduces damage by 2+level, and I don’t take a penalty to armor class.

I've always been Star-curious. Thanks for the breakdown!

I had a feeling you'd change your opinion on solarian after playing/ seeing it played.

where is writen when your target is prone he drop his weapons?

Errata wave 3 came out between me recording and uploading soooo here are my general thoughts on major changes Operative has expert in Will to start, Sniper can ignore unwieldy... Seems like good changes, hair trigger was also changed to require you to aim and only works against aimed at foe (very good change). Generally this has Operative better fit the mold of PF2 martial classes Solarian has better class DC scaling, Black Hole / Supernova don't cycle, there are two-handed trait solar weapons... This is a nice QoL buff, but I still have concerns with its ranged attack being too weak and gimping "Balance" Solarians Primary Target did NOT involve attacking with MAP (new errata says to make the strike before the area blast, older wording was a bit less clear on the MAP interaction), so Soldier is even better than I thought in this video... I don't understand how people are finding that class weak, its damage output was extremely significant in everything except boss fights where it innately giving circumstance penalty on attack rolls can be a pretty big deal. I think my point stands about no one else will really want to use Area weaponry as the damage is "low" with a small area of effect for the actions needed to spend... It feels like the entire weapon category exists to let Soldier be the only ones to use them and that's odd to me The core of the video is still accurate so it is staying up

I dont get it yet. if the first small number means the shield is broken and you can not use it, how is it better to take the next attack on the chin, if you can not use it anymore? how does the shield get destroyed at all if it becomes useless after broken?

Human. Fighter. Longsword and shield. Parents are dead. Yup, it’s gaming time.

Love how he says “I wanna start this video with…” 13 minutes into the video! 🤣🤣🤣

Im just tipping into PF. Barbarian was my fav in Dnd and it looks like it will be here too. Love the energy!

I wish we had more concrete examples in the video rather than general advice but that's still really nice to have, thanks!

Hello, for the cleric build, how do you obtain the damage d8 for the +1 striking fist (2d8 + 4) ?

All multiclass archetypes for classes printed in PC1 are included in PC1. Champion is not simply due to the fact that Champion was printed in PC2 so their Multiclass Archetype is also there.

Can you do a video on how to be a DM? I have never done it before and I committed to it already 😂

A question about prepared spellcasting. I've been letting players in my Strength of Thousands campaign change their uncast spellslots in an hour, similar to the time spend preparing spells in the morning. It seemed reasonable, since the adventure style often tells players during the day what they'll be doing the rest of that day. Is it legal though? Or, more importantly, is it unbalanced?

There is also the flexible spellcaster archetype that perpared spellcasters can grab. You get 1 less spell per spellrank, but in return you can act as a spontaneous caster with all his spells being signature spells, but you can change your spell repetoir every day. It may be a nice options for newer players as you need to do less planning every morning and less planning of your character build with hard to change spell repetoirs, at the cost of 33% fewer spells per day and one class feat.

I can see the spellcasters beung useful, but wouldn't a lot of constructs, and to a lesser extend undead, run into the tank paradox? If you have a minion that is immune or resistant to most attacks, but cannot accurately attack anything, why would the enemy bother attacking them? Without reactions, they cannot stop the enemy walking past them.

My main complain with free archetype is that if every character have all or most of the skills, then none are special.

I think you glossed over wands a little bit quickly. Having what is essentially a free cast of a spell without using spell slots can be amazing. If I'm playing a primal or divine caster, I will always craft or buy a wand of the highest level heal I can use. If I'm playing an arcane caster, it's often something like command, enfeeble, or mending. For occult, sanctuary and protection are ones I always get.

Gotta love how the same company that's like "You don't need a seperate class for Samurai," is like ". . .but guardian."

The xp threat reduction explanation on undo buttons seems a touch convoluted. Is it not both easier to look at it as actions? Party of 4 has 12 actions Say two enemies (one boss level one threat level), has 6. If they hit someone twice and you heal the damage with 2 actions. You traded 1/5 your parties actions for 1/3 of the opponents.

Could you make a video of your foundry modules that you use? I saw a video earlier of how greed is good and I loved it, just wanted to know what modules you recommend

Glad you're including PFS perspectives in this. 👍🏾

Flurry of manuvers is a thing.

Barbarian is a classic Wrassler class, use that Monk and Fighter as examples, why use Rogue.