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The blind one must have been terrifying.

The Trident performed the first automatic landing by a civil airliner in scheduled passenger service on 10 June 1965 and the first genuinely "blind" landing in scheduled passenger service on 4 November 1966. This clip probably originated around that same time, maybe a year or so before.

Dayum that means your over 60!

Autothrottle caused the engines to continually 'make subtle alterations', during an approach, but that didn't necessarily mean that autoland was in use. It could be an autocoupled approach to a manual landing, or a manually flown approach using autothrottle. The autoland system was excellent, however. For quite a while, in foggy weather, Tridents were the only aircraft flying.

At the time perhaps.

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Hi Chris, thank you for your note. my apologies, I had no idea this was you material. There was some chatter on the BAe Facebook page from Dick's daughter because he was in poor health. I recalled the footage on your video and put this montage together for her. Dick was a great guy and recently passed away and I would like your kind permission to keep it for historical/sentimental purposes and would note your permission in the description. Alternatively, I can remove it if you would like me to. Many thanks.

So refreshing to see differences being sorted on the internet politely and with courtesy! 👏

It was RAE (Royal Airforce Establishment) Bedford. It was likely the only airfield with the equipment that provided the autoland capability for the Trident. In the 1960's none of this equipment existed at airports like it does today.

@@MrMJKTuck The narrator says in the introduction that it’s Hatfield Aerodrome - Located in Hertfordshire. Which would make sense as this was DeHavillands main testing and manufacturing facility at the time.

@@joegrimeh950 Yes, the narrator does say that but he is incorrect. They used the facilities at RAE Bedford for all the development testing.

@@MrMJKTuck Interesting! Thanks for the info! I visited the Hatfield museum a couple years ago since my Grandmother lives nearby in Herts. Fantastic place! but they did not mention that it was tested at RAE Bedford. What has the issue? Did Hatfield not have the infrastructure for a CAT 2 or 3 ILS Approach at the time?

@@joegrimeh950 I believe that was the reason. You must be referring to the De Havilland Museum in nearby London Colney. They have the original Mosquito prototype on display there.

The co-pilot was also a test pilot and ready to take over if necessary. It was a genuine approach (into RAE Bedford actually - not Hatfield as stated in the clip). Purely a test demonstration flight of course - no passengers on board.

@@MrMJKTuck As much as I enjoyed the clip, the poster was right. Seat back and looking back in an airliner making an automatic approach and landing was and is foolhardy. It’s a 2 pilot operation. No matter how well the automatics are performing, they need constant monitoring by both pilots at such a critical stage of flight. It’s certainly not a “hands off” situation. Fly like that regularly and eventually Murphy will get you. Thankfully, cockpit discipline and operating procedures have come a long way since the days when this little gem was shot. This would not happen in today’s flight deck. Signed; a 737NG captain.

@@user-rc1ke1ef3t Absolutely 10 9, can't disagree with you there.

@@user-rc1ke1ef3t Yes I don't think anyone is claiming this should be done on the line. It's a marketing gimmick for the cameras on an empty plane with two test pilots.

Wind your neck in old mate. This was a test landing with an empty aircraft to demonstrate auto-landing. This may be routine nowadays but in the 1960's it was real 21st century stuff.

Wow, I bet you had loads of questions when he came home. Rest in Peace to your Dad. I hope you have very happy memories.

@@anthonyglee1710 When he transferred from the Trident to the B707, he felt the difference in technology between them. The B707 didn't even have powered controls. It had cables. The British were way ahead of the Americans in aviation technology at the time. The only let down for the Trident was it's poor take off performance in hot weather.

@@Robert_N may I ask your dads name. I flew with many ex trident and 707 pilots when I started my career. Wonder if I met him.

@@peteconrad2077 Sorry I won't give out personal information on the internet, but if you tell me your airline, I'll let you know if it's the same one.

@@Robert_N I’ve established it’s the same one. I just wanted to know if I knew and flew with your father. I understand your reluctance to share personal information. All the best.

its crazy how many inovations came from Britain ! hell even jet engine !

roman you fat fuk!

@@ZBA1 cousin?

@@devinthierault hahahahaha

Auto land isn’t to make flying easier. It’s to make extremely difficult landings possible. Very few aircraft are CATIIIB Autoland capable. They need special instruments and displays and those have special maintenance requirements (thus it’s placarded on the aircraft whether it’s currently capable of CATIIIB operations or not). Not many airports are capable of CATIIIB operations. They also have to have the equipment that is rigorously tested as well as having instant backup power in case of an outage. They also have to be conducting CATIIIB operations which requires more spacing and aircraft on the ground to hold further away from the runway. The crew has to be CATIIIB certified as well through training and simulator tests. And when a CATIIIB autoland is being performed.. it’s not like this. They were able to do this because the weather was good and a single pilot can easily monitor the instruments and outside. In a real CATIIIB landing you don’t have time. You have one pilot monitoring the instruments ready to perform the missed approach if something goes wrong and one pilot looking outside ready to perform the missed approach if what he sees doesn’t make sense. And CATIIIB means an autoland.. CATIIIC.. which allows the autopilot to control the rollout and apply steering, brakes, and reverse doesn’t exist yet.

Yes

@@cough9552 yes

@@North_wood yes

Sadly this won’t ever be done again. I hope Lockheed makes a new one

@Dan_the_Great What are you talking about? Tons of modern airliners have CATIIIB Autoland. Lockheed? That would be a disaster. The L-1011 was late into service, sold very few examples, and was early into retirement because Lockheed treated it like a cost-plus-fee military contract. Most of what the L-1011 had going for it was luck. (Delta 1080 should have crashed due to a jammed stabilizer, Eastern 935 should have lost all hydraulic fluid and crashed due to centre engine explosion).

It is! Trying to figure out who jwcs is. Enlighten me.

@@MrMJKTuck Am trying to work out the UA-cam message system rather than put up an email address. Do you know how to work it? If so send me an email address and I will respond directly. Oh...the clues are FS and Australia.

@@jwcs69 Hey John, I can't figure out the messaging system either but I do think I remember working with a John Sut...well I won't spell it all out as I'm sure you don't want your name plastered all over UA-cam.

@@MrMJKTuck Oh what the hell! Add hotmail to my moniker and see how you go. I'll then give you a proper address

Barrel rolled????

@@bmc9504LOL I think he means aileron roll, I read of a VC-10 pilot doing the same thing.

@@TheBuccaneer1975 an aileron roll would likely have wrecked the aircraft. A barrel roll maintains normal acceleration and can be done safely. Tridents, 707s and even Concorde have been successfully barrel rolled.

@@peteconrad2077 yep! Captain Brian Walpole was the only Brit to barrel roll Concorde (according to a video I saw recently) another aircraft lost to history and makes me misty eyed! 🥲

@@Smudgebob72 hardly. Brian Trubshaw the test pilot rolled it own way and then Walpole rolled it back the other way.