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The Philosopher Zeno: Stoicism's Humble Beginnings
Who was the philosopher Zeno of Citium? Zeno was the founder of the stoic philosophy. In this video, I cover the origins of Stoicism. Discussing the ideas of Zeno, Cleanthes, and Chrysippus and giving an overview of the stoic philosophy. Stoicism is a well-known philosophy for the famous tidbits of advice stoic philosophers have given, useful advice for dealing with hardship, but stoicism is not a philosophy about hardship. Stoicism is a holistic philosophy, one of the great accomplishments of the Hellenistic world. They discussed stoic metaphysics, ontology, physics, philosophy of mind, epistemology, linguistics, propositional and modal logic, rhetoric, and ethics. In this video, I give a general overview of early stoic thought, covering the various ideas of Zeno, Cleanthes, and Chrysippus and mentioning their influences, namely Socrates and Diogenes the Cynic. I tried my best to immerse you, the viewer, in Zeno, Cleathes, and Chrysippus's world, so you could understand their thought process more deeply. You should know what their rationale may have been, rather than just what their ideas were. This video tackles various questions Zeno, Cleanthes, and Chrysippus grappled with. All of the ideas are necessary context to understand why stoicism has become so famous in helping people endure difficulty that the name of their school of thought has become the very word we use to describe someone capable of maintaining their composure in the face of hardship today. Stoic. This video presents the path they envisioned for becoming a stoic sage, for becoming stoic true and proper.
0:00 intro
1:18 Zeno
2:42 Socrates
6:37 Cynics
9:08 Chrysippus
9:52 Physics
16:47 Epistemology
20:32 Impulses
23:17 Dichotomy of Control
26:18 Stoic Sage
31:07 Dialectic
35:50 Ethics
50:39 Ending
Email: thusspokehaven@gmail.com
#stoicism #zeno #philosophy #ancientphilosophers
0:00 intro
1:18 Zeno
2:42 Socrates
6:37 Cynics
9:08 Chrysippus
9:52 Physics
16:47 Epistemology
20:32 Impulses
23:17 Dichotomy of Control
26:18 Stoic Sage
31:07 Dialectic
35:50 Ethics
50:39 Ending
Email: thusspokehaven@gmail.com
#stoicism #zeno #philosophy #ancientphilosophers
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The Ancient Egyptian Philosophy of Hermes Trismegistus
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This is a video discussing Hermetic philosophy. Hermetic philosophy is a categorization of philosophy concerning the writings of Hermes Trismegistus, a mythologized figure, who was the synthesis of the Greek god Hermes and the Egyptian god Thoth. The collective work of Hermes Trismegistus is called the Hermetica, which is traditionally split into two categories. There is the technical Hermetica...
The Underrated Ancient Philosophy of Zarathustra
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Who was Zarathustra? You may know the name Zarathustra from Friedrich Nietzsche's book Thus Spoke Zarathustra, but who was the real figure who bore that name? Zarathustra or Zarathushtra was the founder of Zoroastrianism. He was significant in Friedrich Nietzsche's eyes for establishing a dualism between good and evil. Nietzsche also approved of the value he put on truth. This video seeks to an...
The Secretive Cult All Your Favorite Ancient Philosophers Were Part Of
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The Eleusinian mystery cult was a secretive cult into which many prominent philosophers were initiated. Plato was initiated into the Eleusinian mysteries and it changed his life. Pythagoras was initiated into the Eleusinian mysteries in addition to many of the mystery cults from around the world. In this video, I cover how this secret cult potentially shaped the philosophies of Plato and Pythag...
Unraveling Cynicism, Skepticism, and Epicureanism
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Have you ever wondered: What is cynicism? What is skepticism? What is Epicureanism? Well boy do I have a video for you. This one. It's this one. Cynicism, Skepticism, and Epicureanism were all historically important philosophic schools of thought. Cynicism is best characterized by the life of Diogenes the cynic. Skepticism is the belief that you cannot know anything for certain about the world ...
The Underrated Ancient Philosophy of Aristotle
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Aristotle Explained: What was the philosophy of Aristotle? Aristotle was the most influential greek philosopher of all time. He was a philosophy student of Plato and later a teacher to Alexander the Great. His philosophy can be viewed as the introduction of scientific clarity to the almost mythical world of Greek philosophy before him. He lays out a series of categories and causes for understan...
The Ancient Philosophy of Diogenes The Homeless Cannibal
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The Philosophy of Diogenes: Who was the philosopher Diogenes? To the untrained eye, the philosopher Diogenes of Sinope looked like just another homeless man living in a tub in ancient Athens, but he was a lot more than that. He was one of the greatest philosophical minds ancient Greece had to offer. Diogenes was a living criticism of Athenian society. He embodied frugality and simplicity as vir...
The Man Who Painted Dreams | Peter Birkhäuser
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This is the artwork of Peter Birkhäuser, the man who painted dreams. Peter Birkhäuser was an artist, who learned about Jungian psychology and dedicated his life to making unconscious content conscious through his paintings. Peter Birkhäuser worked with a psychoanalyst, who was a student of Jung's, to interpret his dreams for more than 35-years during which he kept a record of over 3,400 dreams....
The Dystopian Artist | Zdzislaw Beksinski
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This is a video about Zdzislaw Beksinski the dystopian hellscape painter/artist who captures the emotions of Anxiety, suffering, and horror. He’s famous for his nightmarish hellscapes, that in my opinion capture the unconscious of the human psyche on both a collective and individual scale. One could say he is a collective shadow artist, painting something about the nature of the universe and th...
The Tragic Story of Socrates and The Philosophy of Plato
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This video is a simple explanation and overview of Plato's philosophy. I review the life and philosophy of Plato and Socrates. Socrates spoke the truth and tried to convince everyone to live virtuously, so they condemned him to death in cold blood. At least, that's how the story usually goes. However, in actuality, Socrates posed a major threat to the democratic stability of Athens. Socrates th...
The Ancient Philosophies of Anaxagoras, Democritus, and Protagoras
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Anaxagoras, Democritus, and Protagoras were three presocratics during the golden age of Athens. Anaxagoras is famous for his theory that everything is contained in everything and that mind is what sets everything in motion. Democritus is renowned for his theory of the atom. Protagoras is a sophist, who taught relativism and made a lot of money doing it. Together these philosophers bring the phi...
The Ancient Greek Philosopher Empedocles: Why He Jumped Into A Volcano
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Who was the philosopher Empedocles? This video is about the philosopher Empedocles. Empedocles was a legendary presocratic philosopher. Empedocles conceived of a wide array of philosophical and scientific theories, but he wasn't a mere philosopher. Empedocles was a wind-catcher, a miracle worker, a man of science, a doctor, a philosopher, a religious figure, a politician, and a god. His philoso...
The Brothers Karamazov Book Review: Dostoevsky's Magnum Opus
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In this video, I review the Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky, one of my favorite books of all time. In this book, in my opinion, we get a glimpse into Dostoevsky's difficulty with his faith after the death of his son Alyosha. It's filled with powerful spiritual convictions that have impacted the countless people who have read it. I also delve into what Sigmund Freud thought of the book. ...
Heraclitus: The Ancient Philosopher Who Ran Away To Live In The Woods
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Who was Heraclitus? Who was Parmenides? Heraclitus and Parmenides are often considered some of the most radical presocratics for their metaphysical assertions. Heraclitus proposed the non-existence of a metaphysical being entirely. Parmenides denies the existence of becoming in response. These are two new and powerful voices in the philosophical discussion, the evolving story of philosophy. Hop...
The Ancient Philosophy of Pythagoras: Why He Never Ate Beans
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Who was Pythagoras? Why was Pythagoras scared of beans? Why was he considered the son of Apollo? Why is the Pythagorean cult so odd? In this video, I explain the philosophy and life of Pythagoras in the context of the dionysian and orphic cults that existed during his time. The mythological side of Pythagoreanism is often neglected by mainstream academia, but in truth, the "wacky" ideas of the ...
How Philosophy Started: Thales, Anaximander, and Anaximenes
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The Red Book Book Review: When Jung Got Lost in His Unconscious Mind
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The Red Book Book Review: When Jung Got Lost in His Unconscious Mind
What a chad
3:34 i am concerned for that women who was brought back from dead by empedocles, she never partakes, just stands there like a zombie
sigma
I have a copy of the Gathas, which I love to read.
Diogenes was the only sane man who ever lived in an insane world.
Favorite Channel, so glad you are back! I like the Idea you presented on fate and freewill. Very difficult to reconcile, hopefully after death it will be knowable.
Diogenes is my spirit animal
Epicureanism 💯💯
Diogenes was a real one
Great video helped with project a ton
Outstanding! Thank you.
Upload this to Spotify please!!!
Nice fanfic !
The Ancient Philosophies Of Mario And Crash
Bravo 😂
Sweet little diogenes 😂
Alexander didn't use elephants.
According to the books I’ve read he attempted to use them because he had a hard time fighting against war elephants. What kind of defense maneuver is supposed to handle an elephant charge? But when he tried to use them it went terribly wrong. Apparently elephants are scared of horses. They don’t mix well. He stopped after they started turning around out of fear in the chaos and charging his own people. That was the allusion
This video doesn’t explain why he disliked beans 🫘
I’ve read that Lekta is more related to logic than linguistics. My diagram has both connected.
It’s all inherently connected, but the division of “meaningful utterances” into three parts is coming from a primary source fragment. Lekta would be the bridge between linguistics and logic. You could connect the various diagrams: the mind and the faculty of speech, the ontological diagram, etc.
Empedocles, My beloved
I have been looking for this video everywhere!!!
You got skills, amazing exploration of stoicism
I wonder where you had gone
Great video. In my experience with stoicism, I didn't understand the difference between accepting and ignoring my emotions. You can do that for a while but it'll catch up with you. Just as you say in the video there is mental health and mental strength. Acknowledging and being mindful of what I am feeling has been very difficult but worthwhile. It also makes it take less willpower, in general, to overcome that reactive emotion and choose a rational response. Just my two cents, wish y'all the best.
Will there be a part 2 ?
Yes
The story i was familiar with was Socrates was sentenced to be killed by the iron bull and killed himself to avoid it.
Nah. I made a joke out of it obviously, but every source I have read says hemlock, which was not uncommon. He had his reasons for choosing death. He laid them out in Cato. Now how much of that dialogue is made up by Plato? I don’t know, but it is clear based on other sources as well as Plato that Socrates could have gotten away with a lesser charge, but basically forced everyone’s hand, given what the Athenian law was. Two punishments are purposed, one extreme one and then Socrates had the chance to propose a lesser punishment that seemed fair. He proposed they pay him and give him free food (that’s related to what they give a victor. It was something the Athenians did to honor people). Everyone of course went with the death sentence via Hemlock. After that he could have run away. He was a threat to the stability of their democracy, but he wasn’t close with the 30 tyrants. They wouldn’t have pursued him, but he chose to take the hemlock. Plato gives his reasons in Cato. Part of it was him making a statement. The Athenian democrats were unique in how much they valued liberty, but it was a volatile and unstable direct democratic system. Someone challenging authority and criticizing democracy as they are desperately trying to keep it together is a problem. They usually just ostracized or exiled people rather than killing them. Socrates could have easily proposed exile
@@ThusSpokeHaven my mistake. it was the bronze bull as well.
As in he was sentenced to die via hemlock and the bronze bull? That doesn’t make much sense. That’s a waste of good hemlock. Where’s your source on that? I’ve never read that anywhere (Genuine well intentioned question. If I’m wrong it’s important I correct myself in the future)
@@ThusSpokeHaven no you were right. Also I called it the iron bull when it was the bronze bull.
Got it. It’s wild that they did that stuff, but they didn’t have anything like our modern police forces, so they had to dissuade extreme crimes somehow. They usually only did that type of thing in cases of intentional murder or other offenses of that nature
Once again our intelectual (i say that complimentary) has chosen a symbol of a darker nature this time a black bird. A symbol of death in some culture. Why oh why are the higher thinkers of my generations bogged down in darkness and clicky gothy/emoness.
For this level of quality 800 views is insane
First one of your videos I've seen and my god is it good!! I really hope this channel blows up!
It was a wine vat not a bath tub
Our lord and saviour is back! I’ve missed you my guy!!!
Hey, by the way - you should really consider making more of the types of guided meditations that you did with the story of the Sailor and the Stoic Sage. I think a great example to build off of would be the type of writing that Donald J Robertson finishes off “How to Think Like a Roman Emperor” does in Chapter 9 of the book, closing it out with a meditation from Marcus Aurelius’ perspective on his final moments. The author draws from Seneca a lot, and Epictetus a fair bit, as well as the Meditations in itself, to portray a very moving Meditatio Mori meditative exercise that I found sublimely helpful when close to death.
I had something similar planned for the second one pulling together various stoic ideas
@@ThusSpokeHaven Definitely maintain that as a theme, both narratively within the video structure, and as a practical tool for others Stoics, new or old or a Sage themselves to make use of in the twice daily meditations a good Stoic spends time on. I’ve used your video twice since the reupload to meditate on being pressured by others to do what you know is the wrong (if popular) choice as a matter of Justice (Dikaiosûne), Wisdom (Phronêsis), Andreia (Courage), and Temperance (Sophrosûne) all in one event. Events that often form pivot points for our fate, as we discussed. Events that form new chains of causality that were born in spite of Virtue, rather than in pursuit of it. How much worse off we usually all are for people who never reflect on this tendency - doubly so when the people we let pressure us are known to us as fools. Quintuply so when we know that they’re fools and do it anyway. We’ve all sinned as such. The idea is to interrogate the thinking you portray in the story as well as my own, and spot the hamartanō.
If you’re willing you should send me your email and I’ll send you the unlisted video before publishing, so you can give me your thoughts before I make it public
@@ThusSpokeHaven It would be a great honor to help ensure the presentation of any video on Stoic philosophy - especially its history and Ethics and Logic are well-cited, truthful, and researched enough to proof it as much as possible before presenting it to the Stoa of the digital age and the wider audience of humanity. This is how we fight back against "stoicism" and the "Broicism" heresy. Truth. Accessible content where people can learn easily.
@militusstoica Agreed. My goal is to elevate it and do the philosophy justice, while making it as accessible and engaging as possible. My email is thusspokehaven@gmail.com if you want to establish contact
Happy to see you posting, I was recently lamenting how sad I was I'd have to go re-read a history of western philosophy.. but now I can continue to be lazy.
The future videos will be in more depth, so quality should improve
I'm doing my part!
This is beautiful. Glad you're back.
The Story of the Stoic Sage that Haven tells here is an excellent start to a Guided Stoic Meditation. I highly recommend that anyone watching it do so when he can sit down with a pen and paper (it’s important than there is some degree of kinetic, organizational component to organize and compartmentalize your thoughts in this endeavor), even if it’s the second time you decide to watch the powerful (if AI-generated) imagery and text dialogue after listening to it on your way to work or heading home from school in this day and age of audio/video consumption. Try imagining yourself in a situation where you met with perceived disaster, recently or in the distant past. Compare your situation to the tale of the Sailors and the Sage as if you were the protagonist sailor. Try and break down what the issue was, why and how you got involved, where the wrong decisions were made, and what the consequences are. Then I would go through and ask yourself where first Logic, then Courage, then Self-Discipline (*not imposing Discipline on others)*, then a sense of Just Thought and Action would have changed things. Finally, ask yourself what Wisdom you already had or could have learned at a certain point in your own “shipwreck” of a situation might have ameliorated your result. When you are done, know that you have just completed Stoic Therapeia - logical self-reflection from which modern techniques like Rational Emotive/Cognitive Behavioral Therapy were directly derived from. There are many Stoic proselytizing groups and companies out there that make companion journals meant for beginnings. Pair it with a blank journal and a copy of Donald J Robertson’s “How to Think like a Roman Emperor”, and begin committing time to interrogation of your emotions, impulses, and virtuous acts of the day. If you do this; you will have become a Stoic in theory. All that remains to become one in practice. That’s all our school does. Learn how to live with acceptance and joy each day, and prepare to die well every day as well. We are living in a Stoic renaissance. Come join us, friends. We will make a world a better place through Areté and Askêsis.
You’ve clearly studied stoicism quite a bit. What were your thoughts on my presentation on their notion of fate? Most of the people I read argued that it was simply based on the idea of causal determinism, which I disagreed with.
@@ThusSpokeHaven Oh boy - Fate and Stoicism. Another one of the infamous Stoic Paradoxes. I’m not sure if I would say Epictetus or Seneca were probably the best at slicing through these - they both understood these sorts of paradoxes were both natural, but also in needing of explanation. I think my view of Fate was actually changed by your interpretation. I admit that I gave it less thought than more practical things that Stoicism offers like Ethics. But I literally use the Nietzsche phrase “Amor Fati” several times a day to describe Stoic embracing of fate, good or bad. I try to remind myself that what is happening to me can be turned towards the good of my mind and spirit regardless of whether it seemed painful or pleasant. But that’s just a way to accept things that happen to me. I always knew we had “Free Will”, and the Stoics constantly argued as much, as you well know. They also argued that the fate of all things was predestined. The idea that we “predestined” ourselves through a chain of causality is something I don’t feel like can be logically disproven. I do, at the same time, feel that human agency/free will is *not* mutually exclusive with the wider world having its own fate decided by ITS architect - God, Theos, Nature, the sacred Logos - whatever name you like works. We are all of us fated to certain things. We will all age and die. Everything and everyone we love will die and crumble into the dust someday. Whether you were a Pharoah 3,000 years ago ruling over all you could see, or a slave in the court being whipped to work faster to finish some construction project for them - all humans die, and all buildings crumble. All nations will eventually return to the dust when the people and places that constitute it die and have their atoms returned to the constituent atoms of the universe. We are, all of us, fated to this. But at the same time, we have the choice to determine how we fill that relatively short span of our lives. We can shape our fate to be a life well lived in which the manner that we live in affords us bountiful Joy; or Chara (a different thing from a life spent chasing pleasures, or Hedonia). We can live a life that results in Ataraxia; in tranquil acceptance with our lives. We can change the fate of how we perceive that life by changing the way we react to it, and if we do so correctly, happiness will ENSUE. As Dr. Viktor Frankl said, it cannot be PURSUED. So, I suppose, just thinking out loud, that your idea of a sort of compartmentalized fate makes a lot of sense to me. We have a small span of time, relatively speaking, in which to live. In which to make decisions that determine the nature of our fate (and ripples out in a causal chain to change the fates of countless others in the process). We control how we react within that span of time. We rarely control the events taking place within that span as much as we want to think, though. It’s a tough one, man. But I think until someone lays out a better logical proof than you did here, I follow your thinking on this. Just working through it out loud here, so forgive me for the rambling nature of this response…
@@ThusSpokeHaven One thing I love about Stoicism is that it’s always got some wiggle room for stuff like this. The only things you can’t really move are the Dichotomy of Control, Areté/Virtus/Cardinal Virtues, and the idea of the Logos as something sacred and transcendent. Everything else can be played with. And you did that well on the Fate argument here. Have you read much about Aristo of Ceos?
@militustoica No. I’ll have to look into it. I read through the main primary sources on early stoic thought (Sextus Empiricus, Diogenes Laertius, Cicero, etc.) and I’m currently rereading Seneca, Epictetus, and Marcus Aurelius for this next one
Cody… Good to see you back doing what you do best. I highly recommend this journey through the evolution of stoicism. Zeno is one reason why I have arrived at a combination of stoicism and pantheism similar to that of Spinoza. I will send a link to this video to my students, and my mentees as they make the journey you so artfully present here. Keep going… Keep doing what you’re doing… Keep climbing that mountain. Best wishes… Mark
I went into this as an Enlightenment era Deist and see no real changes moving from Deism to Stoic Pantheism. I’m not even sure they are meaningfully different.
Thank you for the support over the years
My guy. You fixed it all. I applaud you placing Wisdom over your own Ego. That was an act of Kathekōn, friend. Subscribed to all.
Keep uploading please. I have no idea how u don't get more views
did you re upload this?
Yeah fixed some minor mistakes
Is this art all original? Its amazing! Also thank you for such concise presentation, the stoics from past and present would be and are proud of your dedication and persistence. Your effort to become a true teacher of stoicism is admirable and effective!
I appreciate that. I trained an AI model with my concept and character art, then highly edited, drew over, and animated some of what it generated slightly. AI art still sucks most of the time, but you can rescue it and it’s a good starting point. It saves a ton of time
I've finally found the video again.
Diogenes is my Christ
I fear for your friends and family
Love this man, fucking legend