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Metal Gear Explained is dedicated to exploring the universe of Metal Gear Solid. Our videos look to discover new truths and expand knowledge of everything we know about the lore. From favorite characters to hidden messages we will be looking and sharing it all with the community. Everyone is welcome to help us on this journey and share everything they can with our community. Welcome to the Metal Gear Explained Life and thank you for joining us.
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Metal Gear Explained is dedicated to exploring the universe of Metal Gear Solid. Our videos look to discover new truths and expand knowledge of everything we know about the lore. From favorite characters to hidden messages we will be looking and sharing it all with the community. Everyone is welcome to help us on this journey and share everything they can with our community. Welcome to the Metal Gear Explained Life and thank you for joining us.
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In this Metal Gear Solid Delta Snake Eater Remake video I share the Konami Report and future event info. Enjoy.
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Metal Gear Explained is dedicated to exploring the universe of Metal Gear Solid. Our videos look to discover new truths and expand knowledge of everything we know about the lore. From favorite characters to hidden messages we will be looking and sharing it all with the community. Everyone is welcome to help us on this journey and share everything they can with our community. Welcome to the Metal Gear Explained Life and thank you for joining us.
My most important video for Metal gear
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Metal Gear Online Delta The Multiplayer of All time - NEWS from METAL GEAR SOLID Δ: SNAKE EATER
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Gameplay trailer and breakdown MGS Delta
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Metal Gear Explained is dedicated to exploring the universe of Metal Gear Solid. Our videos look to discover new truths and expand knowledge of everything we know about the lore. From favorite characters to hidden messages we will be looking and sharing it all with the community. Everyone is welcome to help us on this journey and share everything they can with our community. Welcome to the Metal Gear Explained Life and thank you for joining us.
My most important video for Metal gear
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Amazing News for MGS MC Vol 2 & MGO plus Exclusive look at METAL GEAR SOLID Δ: SNAKE EATER Features
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Metal Gear Online Delta The Multiplayer of All time - NEWS from METAL GEAR SOLID Δ: SNAKE EATER
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What to expect for Multiplayer in METAL GEAR SOLID Δ: SNAKE EATER
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Gameplay trailer and breakdown MGS Delta
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Comparison of Metal Gear solid 3 original vs delta
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MGS Producer speaks Metal Gear Solid Delta
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New controls, camera and more Metal Gear Solid Delta
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The Future of Metal Gear Series
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Can a 20 year old masterpiece get enhancements? ua-cam.com/video/zATzmxUAI2E/v-deo.html
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The future of Metal Gear Solid Series ua-cam.com/video/S4kSWf1JqlA/v-deo.html
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This will be the best game ever made.
I 1,000% agree with you. I’m a MGS veteran and based on everything I’ve seen so far, yes. Best game ever made easily.
What release date do you see happening? thanks for watching.
I predict they will do a release date trailer at Tokyo Game Show and the game will be released in March 2025.
i think theyll do an mgs direct like with silent hill sometime this autumn, then release in spring next year
@@siliconknights Also you can pre order MGS3 Delta now. So that leads me to believe you don't have to wait too long. You don't have to wait until Fall of 2025. I believe it will be released in March of 2025.
I'll take it, feels like forever from now but I'll be happy if true. thanks for watching and prediction.
the MGS show is called MGS Hotline. or you mean something different? btw yes spring the latest imo.
You are now hired to be Konami CEO. lol
i wsas hoping for a 2024 release date, but I feel like we would have heard something by now if that was true
Yeah I am starting to feel the same about 2024. the latest was last month to announce for 2024, so early 2025 sounds good?
Hopefully the leaks were true but I feel like it would be advertised a bit more by now if so
Its not a leak btw its a financial report they do every year, estimating releases and so cost and profits for investors. We will get news in under 2 weeks is my guess with gamescom and a hotline show close. thanks for watching.
Same thing I was thinking
The new player can play MSG V. It's really only tied to ground zero so it doesn't confuse new players. Then, they can go into the MGS 3 remake with a already had next gen experience.
The hotline production is in Japanese, how did you watch that😢
Yea bro, I can't watch man. I'm approaching this game like a born again virgin 😅 you kno what I mean...I wanna be as surprised as possible. I haven't played this game in maybe 10 years cause I just recently got back into gaming and didn't buy the master collection. MGS2 & 3 are the best games I ever played. I'm trying to play Dead Stranding because of Kojima but it just doesn't connect the way snake does. And Imagine, that game has actual actors that I like and MGS series has none but it's the nostalgic connection I have everyone in MGS. Fun fact, my friend that introduced me to this game joined the army because of Snake😅. Tru story and guess what? We are from Jamaica but yet it impacted him that much. For me... It influences me to learn about war history and politics, I redefined for what a man endures alone in the fight for your belief. Snake is the most stoic character in a game, this is where I first learnt this principle.
Dude is grinding
Always grinding to be real I got 2 channels monetized want to get this one setup so we can have events and more.
I cried a few times while watching this. I rememebered so many touching moments. Just got to wolf scene. This is not fair. What are we fighting for? Tears still dropping. Thought this video was just a breakdown but you make mgs feel like a spiritual journey. TY.
Life is a spiritual journey yes. Thanks for letting me feel seen.
This a long one but I’ll watch the whole video! Its very interesting 😂
Tell me your thoughts after?
What you said about Kojima touching your life via the MGS games, I totally hear as I feel the same. Suffering is part of life but there is a beauty in it, an opportunity to become better, to be more than what you once were. A silent strength. I love these games, always will. Each game taught me something new, be it about world affairs, history or even about myself. So my guy, this video is pretty good
Agreed and I see you get me and the series. Cheers to you. Thanks for watching.
my best guess of when it will release is the 10 year anniversary for mgs3 which is November 17, seems like the most likely time for it to come out even though i want it sooner
when will be able to pre order on steam
MG2: Solid Snake is another banger.
I expect them doing something TSG which was Metal Gear go to when it comes to release new information on upcoming game but TGS could be last big push for Silent Hill 2 remake they could highlight both at TGS
i just cant wait to see HD eva
They ugly-fied her, homes. They just don't want to show it yet. Can't have folks clown on that trash until a few hundred thousand pre-orders come through first. Here's hoping I'm wrong
@@MisterNoah bro every woman in the entire series is sexualized and revealing, Kojima was just like that i guess, I doubt they will change that
NAKED SNAKE RAAAAAHHH
The wait for new delta news is painful. I just cant wait for play the game. As for which games to paly first, if any, id recommend metal gear solid 1 and 2, but thsts about it.
You’re pretty good! Can’t wait to play
metal gear is a lifestyle
No realer words ever said 🫡
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Im not gonna lie i be playing phantom pain and is wearing the naked snake fit with the bandanna to pretend like im already playing it i also be playing ghost recon and making my character cosplay as naked snake or big boss and it’s funny because you could play with sam fisher too. Also I don’t think ya should play the original snake eater if you’re planning on playing the remake for the first time just to experience it for the first time as it’s with the new graphics and stuff!
The games in lore order always messed with my head
As for the news I believe they will update us around October ish or November which it could result on revealing the release date of the game
I believe for storyline the players should play the original Metal Gear Solid 3 to know the story and for preparation of the new physics of the gameplay they should play MGS V both ground zeroes and phantom pain to get a feel of the mechanics of the game
First one to comment please bless with the game for ps5 ❤️
With big gaming events coming and the Hotline show being 4 weeks ago I would like a August 2nd day to have another Hotline MGS show given its on Friday last time I would love it but my Guess is Gamescom is when official new info comes from Konami. This video breaks down a few key dates plus answers the main question I been asked a bunch lately. Enjoy and remember we got the giveaways for Metal Gear Solid Delta Snake Eater going also. Good luck.
Konami is like: Kept ya waiting huh!😂
Hello, i destroyed a lot of people on MGO3. :)
Phantom mgo was ok but mgo2 was better
Mgo2 was the best multiplayer mode
Metal gear online was the best multiplayer game
weather changes
It's good if they just remake the old one and improve the graphics.
I just hope MGS Peace Walker gets remastered next if Konami is doing the chronological order before Solid Snake’s time
I want Snake to finally... Take off his Pants! He's been asking for it since '04!
My expectations are that the level design and placement of enemies will be the same. I expect damage to be tweaked to be more balanced, boss fights tk be chsnged to be more complex, and all the stuff theyve already shown. What i want is for VR missions to be included. I want the radio calls to be presented in a more entertaining way. Im not sure what to expect with the inventory. I feel like funcionally itll be like 4, but changing ehats equipped will be like V.
Copy of MGS Delta Snake Eater, please!
I want gameplay more akin to V. That gameplay was smooth as heck. Also, I would like some side missions or a mode with some side stories that go completely off the rails like the side missions in Subsistence. Lots of unlockable items, gear and costumes would be great. Also, since this is Konami, why not do some crossover stuff? Like add a game plus and just insert some Konami characters as bosses and then make them unlockable in subsequent playthroughs. Like a boss battle with Bomberman, one of our vampire killing heroes, a Silent Hill character... Make it new in some way other than being a next gen version of MGS. Some of us played the hell out of that story already and that aspect isn't very exciting tbh.
Folks stop pissin and shitting in your pants... The Game will be the same like the old one with just graphics and some minor changes. Gameplay has 2 sides you can choose for the leftovers of society that can't go on with evolution and accept the new movement
Bro we're getting closer and I'm so hyped. So glad to see Mgs being resurrected
Your suggestions I believe will all be in their, I do think for the time period and for aesthetics they could include codec calls now and again but jus for general updates and in game light nuggets I can see this. If you played days gone, I think it's gonna be lik that. I hope you work for Konomi or sum cause these suggestions are all things the fans actually care about
I want that they made survival mechanics more interesting and more impactful to the game process, more difficulty options and custom tweaks like for "New game+"
My brain can't even comprehend a modern remake of mgs 1 and 2 tbh. I was 5 when I played through mgs and I was 7 when I first played through mgs 2
Why are folks commenting twice rather than just leaving it as one big comment
I wonder if the face paint will wash away or break down as u go through rain or tall grass and you would have to reapply the face paint back on if you want to or put on a different color on too!
I kinda hope they add more depth and details into the map and more ways to sneak around the areas or something like that! Also they should have the items and weapons selection be more like TPP but with extra scrolls as you pick each section!
Konami if you make an MGS 2 Remake. Please change the one line from Liquid/Ocelot..where he says "Big Boss was in his late 50's" .cause its a mistake and it really bothers me ^^
- no loading screens - the same areas, but bigger - the game design must be made for the new controls, dont make the same mistake that The Twin Snakes did - please pleaaaase more and harder difficulty levels - Snake vs Monkeys - some bonus content - more collectable items - the Nightmare Mini game.
I want the MGS3 codecs to be like TPP. plus skippable codecs.
Wtf. Why do you want to ruin mgs
deluxe looks nice, prob gonna get it, i can see myself putting that fox logo to use and the steel cover is always nice, not really interested in the fish tank and all the other stuff