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@@dt7037 well, they are very different firearms, in almost every way, from weight, ergos, trigger, recoil impulse, and price, but I will argue that in overall shootability and end results, they are comparable. I actually shoot the ported M&P better, but it has a lot to do with ergos, for me. It's Shannon's favorite gun, and she loves the XC, so I guess that says something. But, the XC has a really great trigger and return to zero, and it feels completely different to shoot than the Ported M&P. But, in the end the M&P works better for me and gives me similar results, and I can't imagine how great it could be if I dumped an additional $3000 into it. That's my take, as of writing this response. Thanks for stopping by and commenting.

@@The2AExperiment appreciate the reply and very much enjoy your honest reviews and have become a new sub

@@jaspersweeney4086 we really appreciate the kind words. We plan on doing a full review of the P226 X-Five in the near future, but like talking guns. Not sure how you like yours, but I was not sold on the X-Five at first, as it costs $500 more than the optic ready P226 Legion I was actually at the store to buy. My wife wanted it though, so happy wife, happy life. It only took putting the first two shots in the same hole at 10 yards to realize what a stellar firearm it is. So I'm glad she wanted it. Over the last year it became my favorite pistol, and having the ability to adjust the trigger 4 ways really allowed us to dial it in to perfection. In short, we and everyone who shoots it, loves it. I hoped to use it in some competition this year, but we only recently picked up a holster that works with it. Maybe next year. That being said, we may have a new favorite pistol, the DWX Optic ready. We just posted two videos about it and I talk about the P226 X-Five a little in the the first video. We still have to run it through its paces, but so far, the DWX seems like a winner...other than the horrible Optic ready support. As to optics for the X-Five, we are running a 3MOA Sig Romeo1 Pro. It direct mounts to the slide and the built in sight notch cowitnesses to the front fiber optic. The glass is large, and pretty clear, although you can get a reflection in certain lighting conditions. Overall, it's a really nice and clean setup. They even sell a rear sight that mounts behind the optic cut now, so that's pretty cool too. So what do you think of yours? I feel most people who have reviewed it don't give it the respect it deserves, but firearms is a highly subjective subject. Let us know what you think. Thanks again for the kind words and for talking about guns with me.

@The2AExperiment Yeah I like it too I watched alot of reviews on it prior to the purchase being that its on the expensive side. one thing I was im still surprised about was the weight of it, Even after owning it for a while hahaha. If I run out of ammo im sure throwing the pistol will do some damage lol. im looking at a vector optics frenzy Gen 2 or a Romeo x for the red dot just worried compatibly being the DDP foot print. Yeah il make sure to check out the other video and look forward to more keep up the good work. thanks

@@jaspersweeney4086 glad you like your X-Five too. I don't know about the Frenzy, but the X-Five is cut for delta point, so the XPro will fit. It's just a bit of a small window. Ironically, they make a closed emitter version of the XPro now. That's what I get for running out and buying the XPro when it first came out. Once you make your decision, let us know what you think.

@@sugarbear573 this was a follow-up video after getting the plate and running into issues. As we said in our inital video, we really like this gun, and we may even pick up a non optic ready version too, and send it off to be cut. Saves a lot of money and headaches. The worst part is, I can't definitively say whether it is the plate or the sight that caused the issue, so I am kind of stuck with it the way it is. Either way, not having plates or customer support to assist with simple questions regarding sight notches, or when plates will be available is a pretty bad way to launch an optic ready firearm that many people have been waiting for. Hopefully, they get more plates in stock soon for others who pick this thing up. It would also be nice if other companies started making plates for it. Thanks for stopping by and commenting.

@@LVbibby thanks. It wasn't the worst thing I've had happen with a new firearm, but it's disappointing. We really like this gun, and as my wife said in our initial shots video, she wants her own, so we will probably get the much less expensive non optic ready and send it off to be direct milled. I guess this is the sort of thing that happens when one company buys up a few smaller ones. Like you said, hopefully, they get their act together. Thanks for stopping by and commenting.

@@joshmartin7558 believe me, if I had known this was going to turn into a fiasco, I would have bought the non optic ready version and sent it off to be direct milled. The fact that the factory optic cut tacks on an additional $500 makes it sting all the more. The sad thing is, a lot of companies are doing this sort of thing. Like we said in our first shots video, these guns are not optic ready, they are optic capable. Oh well, I own it now, and the headaches are behind me, so now I can enjoy the gun again. Thanks for stopping by and commenting.

@@theoverzealouscollector8198 thanks. A bit dry, and no fun to do without my wife, but I hope it helps someone. Thanks for the kind words and for taking the time to watch and comment. Also, I like your collection of CZs. I assume you sent your DWX off to be cut.

@@The2AExperiment Thanks. Yes I picked up a “lightly” used DWX and sent it to NCengravers to get milled for a total of $125 including the refinish. CZ and a few of the older and slower manufacturers really need to get up to speed with red dots. I have a Walther Q4/Q5 and they are great guns except you lose a really nice back sight when you take the plate off.

@@theoverzealouscollector8198 man! $125! I feel duped. Same thing with my Sig P320 Legion and P226 X-Five. You lose the rear sight, but the direct mount Romeo 1Pro dots have a sight notch to cowitness to the front sight, so could be worse. The rear sight on this DWX is pretty decent too, so it sucks to lose it. The FN 509s and Springfield Echelons seem to be the only two fully optic ready guns that can handle just about any optic and still give you cowitnessable sight. There are some others too, but most firearms make it an afterthought or a pain. Thanks again for stopping by. Hope to see some full reviews of your firearms.

@@The2AExperiment yeah strangely the FNX is an old gun and it was designed nicely to handle red dots. Anyway nice talking with you.

@@oneblood100 thank you. Appreciate it.

@@m0b00st I feel your pain, which is why I wanted to get the video out ASAP. I just received my Dan Wesson Plate and put it on today (Docter/Vortex) and I used a 10-8 Performance Glock standard height rear sight and it seems to work, but it was super tight and really had to ram it in. I think it may have actually spread the rear sight notch because the Vortex venom will not fit, and neither does the Sight mark Mil Spec, which are both listed as compatible on the CZ website, and both use this footprint. I even hammerd on them but I could not get them to sit down in the gap. It was too tight. I ended up useing a Cyelee Cobra X Pro, which is a better dot anyway, but now there is a slight gap. Maybe the plate was out of speck, but I doubt it. It may be better to get the Impact Machine Plate and run an optic with a rear sight built in. Again, the Cyelee Cobra has this, but just barely. it was an unnecessary pain in the ass, and I am still not sure the rear sight I am using is correct, or that it really is a Glock dovetail. It does cowitness to the front when using the Cyelee, so that's good. It'll all be in the follow-up video and I'll pass on anything I find out along the way. Thanks for stopping by and good luck.

@@mooktemas6800 it does have measurements, which I guess would be fine if you were buying a new set of sights, but considering you are only replacing the rear sight, and they don't give you the height of the sight already on the gun, it's pretty irrelevant. I tried measuring it and it is somewhere around .180 - .200. I don't have calipers to get an exact measurement. Also, the sight notch on the plate doesn't specify the type of sight that you have to use or the width of the dovetail. They don't make it easy for the average person to put it all together. I just put the plate on today (Docter/Vortex) and I used a 10-8 Performance Glock standard height rear sight and it seems to work, but it was super tight and really had to ram it in. I think it may have actually spread the rear sight notch because the Vortex venom will not fit, and neither does the Sight mark Mil Spec, which are both listed as compatible on the CZ website, and both use this footprint. I even hammerd on them but it was too tight. I ended up useing a Cyelee Cobra X Pro, which is a better dot anyway, but now there is a slight gap. In short, it was an unnecessary pain in the ass, and I am still not sure the rear sight I am using is correct, or that it really is a Glock dovetail. It'll all be in the follow-up video. Thanks for stopping by and commenting.

@@krishall3187 the big thing I think makes this a great alternative to the shadow is the 1911 trigger. But shadows are pretty great. They ever do a SAO with an optic cut, I'm there. Thanks for stopping by.

Thanks. I showed this comment to Shannon and she is still laughing. She is a trooper.

@@true5.012 I was a while ago, but I beleuve it was BattleHawk Armory. I am always searching Gundeals.com or wikiarms. Great way to find deals. It may have been $820. Definitely a good price point. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@@terrydipoma9422 we like our Pro SD too. We added a ZRTS 15lb guiderod and Harrington comp. Made it even better. We just haven't done a follow-up with the Pro SD yet. We just aren't huge fans of tge Steel Frame. Never heard of the ultra mass guide rod. I imagine it's pretty heavy. I'll have to look into it. Thanks.

@@darrellcoccagna2055 lol. That's definitely one way to look at it.

@@AdamBond-mj7tg it wasn't the worst trigger out there, but it wasn't too good either. I'm not a trigger snob, but it had a lot of creep and the hitching was a no go. The MCarbo trigger shoe is worlds better, and it is dirt cheap. If it wasn't for the hitching, I would have left it alone, but I'm glad I didn't because the new shoe and striker spring brought it to a new level. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@@IntoTheDeep-i6c it is a snappy gun. You can mitigate some of that with a 15, or 13lb recoil spring, but even then it snaps a bit more than a similar M&P or Glock. Some people say the F version is better, but we haven't tried it. The other thing you can do is death-grip the gun. When I shoot our Poly PDP I have to really give it a squeeze, or I will find myself readjusting my grip. Lastly, snappy is subjective. It may not feel as jumpy to you as it does to others. Rent one at the range and see what you think. Let us know what you decide. Thanks for stopping by.

@@The2AExperiment sweet man will do!

@@blackwolf6933 I don't blame you. When big companies buy up smaller ones, this seems to be what happens. At least the build quality seems to intact. Hopefully, the customer service will improve as they release more firearms. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@@83tactical as we said in the video, it's somewhere between the P226 X-Five and the Staccato XC, so roughly Staccato P territory. We don't have enough rounds through it yet to make a final determination, but it fits my hands much better than a Staccato, which makes a big difference in overall feel and shootability for me. Now that the non-optic version has dropped to $1,600, it's seems like a great value for the performance. Thanks for stopping by

@@The2AExperiment When supply catches up with demand, the OR (now only) models will probably be $2000 all day long, so still ~4-500 less than the going rate of a Staccato P. Those $1600 non-optics ready DWXs were probably due to distributors writing down inventory to not get stuck with non-optics models clogging up inventory. I like their pistols, but CZ has yet to get their game together with parts support for the US market. Extended Shadow 2 safeties are usually out of stock, and factory optic plate availability has only been slightly better.

@@theoverzealouscollector8198 the DWX has really surprised me. It's much nicer than I expected. As we said in the video, with the drop in price of the non-optic version, it's hard to justify spending an additional 5-6 hundred for the factory optic cut. We'll see how this plate situation turns out, but I am having a bit of buyers remorse, and kind of wish I would have bought one sooner and sent it out to be machined. We still love our P226 X-Five. It's a fine firearm. The P226 Legions are great too. Thanks for stopping by and commenting.

@@The2AExperiment When it’s all said and done you won’t care because you will have an awesome firearm. Good luck with everything.

@@joegrover11 Let us know what you think of it. I'm sure it will be a quality product, but as you said, they did not have an option with a rear sight. It looks like they add a spacer to the front of the plate, so I don't understand why they don't have a forward rear sight option. I guess that's why they make plates and I don't. Again, let us know how it works out. CZ still hasn't sent my (Docter/Vortex) plate, so it may be a while before we can get the whole package together. Thanks again.

@@chriscarlisle499 I bet you are right. We waited for the optic ready and now that we have one, the comped version will come out, and it will be direct milled for optics. That seems to be the new business model. Either way, it is a great pistol, so far, and Shadows are great too. Haven't shot the compact shadow yet, but I've held one, and it felt great in hand. Thanks for stopping by and sharing.

@@The2AExperiment the compact be careful trigger is so light and trying to find the wall it’s not hard to go through it. I do agree the dwx is amazing. Takes all the great from both and makes a perfect blend of the two into one amazing firearm.

It's true, nearly every firearm has some drawback or goofy issue, some worse than others. I used to avoid firearms that required a bunch of nonsense, but this year has been a rollercoaster of buying holsters, optic plates, add on sights, recoil springs and guide rods, and of course, compensators. I almost miss the days of only buying guns for carry, like my M&Ps and 509s. Slap on any optic and away you go. Thanks for watching and commenting, and for feeling our frustration.

@@donkeydefense hey Donkey Defense. It's been a while. Yes, absolutely stinks not to have the proper support. We are really hoping this whole adding our own rear sight to the plate works out. Oddly enough, the sight already shipped from 10-8 performance, but still no word on the plate shipping from CZ. Definitely a botched launch. Thanks for stopping by and commenting.

@@The2AExperiment of course! Always enjoy checking out your guy's videos. I have wanted DWX for a while but was hoping for an optic ready variant. Now I think if I end up getting one, I am just going to get the irons version milled. Appreciate the in depth review!

Hence why I didn't want to get another cz... I comptete.. I need parts

@@All_Things_Pew ha! You surely did. We appreciate it.

We will be doing a review of the custom shop AXG lineup. We have 3 of the 4, only missing the classic. We appreciate your patience. Thanks for the request.

Felt great in my hands, Haven’t picked it up yet.Don’t think there’s anyway to cancel it now

@@3vc206 That's a lot of money for this firearm. I feel for you. It's definitely a cool gun, and hopefully, yours doesn't have the uber tight spring issue. Let us know what you think once you get it. If you have any questions about it, feel free to reach out. Thanks for stopping by and sharing.

@@berz_an_gerz thanks. We are really happy with the trigger and the magwell. Price is right too. Thanks for stopping by.

@@Jack-wc3ob correct. That's why it's good to have an inch pounds torque driver. Although I don't totally trust mine. Thanks for stopping by.

@@Bullets4TheDevil Thank you for the kind words. We just give our honest thoughts on a firearm. As to your question, I believe the M&P 2.0 is the best out of the box, bang for the buck, firearm on the market. We own several, and Shannon and I both used to carry them. The PDP Pro is a great gun, but for pure value, durability, shootability, you cannot beat the M&P. The only reason I don't carry an M&P 2.0 compact anymore is because it was tearing up my skin with that amazing grip texture. I had a perpetual red spot on my stomach from it. There are many great choices out there to fit any need and budget. I always recommend shooting a firearm before you buy it, to see how it works for you, test them side by side, if possible. Either way, you really can't go wrong with either firearm. Thanks for stopping by.

@@The2AExperiment and thank you for not being a narcissist and actually responding unlike other channels… I won’t be putting either of these options in my pants. I gotta tell ya tho, I’d be willing to swap the sights, get a steel guide rod and go for that scs green dot on the pdp pro sd. I’d also get a thread protector with an o-ring. That being said, would you concede that the Walther would be the “better gun” in your opinion at this point? Thanks again.

@@Bullets4TheDevil it really all depends on what is important to you and what you are using the firearm for. We have other guiderods and springs for our PDP Pro SD, as well as the Harrington Comp. That makes the gun really expensive and it really doesn't serve a role. It's too big to carry, it's not a better shooter than our metal competitor, which we got for $800, or our Sig Legion, it's not as good of a suppressor host as our Beretta APXs, etc., so for us, it's just an expensive range toy with an outstanding trigger. To me the best guns require the least amount of monkeying with them. That's why we don't prefer Glocks. Not a fan out of the box, but they are great, once you get them tricked out with an Afterburner, a new trigger, and some stippling. So, they are awesome if you want to spend the money. We do that kind of stuff here and there, but it's really not our thing. I don't want to have make the gun great, I want the gun to be great when I pull it out of the box. Anything I do to a gun should be because I feel like doing it, not because I feel like I have to. I guess I'll finish with this. Walther is on the right track, but they still have a way to go before they offer a complete firearm that appeals to me as a carry or competition gun, especially at the price they come in at. We like the PDP, but we don't love it, as an out of the box option. They do have the PDP professional, for law enforcement, and that sounds like a great option, but us plebs can't get them. Anyway, that's my take, and it's only one opinion amongst many. Thanks again for the comment.

I got almost 2k into my rival s to make it shoot like the pdp by the way too. The rival is crap in comparison to the pdp.

Thanks for the kind words, and I am sorry to hear you miss your wife. I don't know what I would do without Shannon. I like your analogy about a firearm being like a meal; however, there are some meals, that no matter how much seasoning you use, they will never be something you like, i.e., anything with lima beans is a no go for me. We haven't tried the F, but we have the PDP Pro SD, which we like quite a bit. Again, the PDP SF is not a bad gun, and I can see why some people like it, but it does nothing special, at least not in our hands, and especially for $2,000+. The Lok grips may improve the gun for us too, but the fact that I have to mess around upgrading and changing it, at that price, says it all. We own and shoot a lot of firearms, and we let everyone we know shoot our guns, and most agree, the PDP SF is nothing special, other than the trigger. It's only real draw would be to serious competition shooters who do not want to deal with hammer down starts, or those who have a lot of money to burn on firearms and like expensive range toys. Even then, it does not mean everyone who shoots or buys one will like it. I also saw your comment regarding the Canik SF. We have shot that firearm as well and I thought it shot similarly to the PDP, and it is less than half the price. Our buddy has one and he did a trigger job on it, and it shoots great. I wish we liked the PDP SF, because we are $2,300 deep, and it is just sitting on the wall. Basically a paperweight. We take it out here and there and put some rounds through it, in an attempt to see if maybe it can grow on us, like Glocks did. Unfortunately, that has not occurred. It is still just an overpriced, OK gun with a great trigger. Also take into consideration, we own a Sig Custom Works P226 X-Five (same price as the PDP SF), a Sig Legion with a Gray Guns competition trigger, an M&P Metal Competitor with the Floyd's Porting (a personal favorite), the Shadow Systems DR920P elite (amazingly flat shooter), a Staccato XC (another overpriced gun), multiple SIg AXGs, and multiple other firearms with comps, upgraded triggers, and more. We even have multiple bone stock guns. Some people have more firearms than we do, and some people have less, and everyone will have their personal favorites, for one reason or another. The PDP SF is not one of our favorites. Last thing I will say about it is, we have a friend who loves his 5" PDP SF. It is actually his favorite gun, and like us, he owns quite a few firearms. However, he even thinks it is overpriced, as there are so many other firearms that are similar in shootability, but cost much less. We were just talking about it last weekend. He thinks it should be $1,200 as it comes. That is about what we thought too, or $1,500 with decent sights and a better spring. Either way, we appreciate your input and respect your opinion. It's a great time to be a gun owner as there is something for everyone. Thanks for stopping by and commenting. I'll be checking out your channel again. I am subbed, but didn't get a notification about your new vids. The lok grips you chose look pretty cool.

@@The2AExperiment you two are awesome and like Cara thank god they make a lot of them. Guarantee to find something somewhere you will like. Some love the polymer better some like the feel of steel. Now a days everything is overpriced I do believe. You too keep up the great work. I enjoy watching the two of you and your banter. Best advise is try everything for yourself before you make up your own mind.

@@chriscarlisle499 Thank you. I 100% agree, if you can shoot it before you buy it, you will find out for yourself what works best for you. You look really happy shooting your PDP SF in your videos. It's a great feeling to love a new firearm. Great chatting with you. Catch you in the next one.

@@The2AExperiment it is truly my happy place. Since she passed it’s one of the few ways I was able to force myself to get out and meet people again kept me from shutting down completely. My local gun shop was like family and still are. I don’t know if I would have made it this far without them!! Like waist great chatting and yes I will see you on the next one.

That's cool. We really like our PDP Pro SD, so becoming a Walther lover is understandable. Now there are some awesome choices in the firearms market. Thanks for commenting.

I prefer recoil lugs too, but I haven't had any issues with bolts shearing off on any of my Sigs. I only mount Sig optics to my Sig firearms, so the optic cut is the same size as the optic, which really doesn't allow for forward to back movement. The side to side movement is more of a concern to me, as if you smack the optic on something there is nothing to prevent sideways movement. So far so good with Sig's mounting, but as I said in the review, I would like it if they started using recoil bosses. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@@oceaser6977 interesting take, but I am comparing shootability and bang for the buck. The Walther SF is over $2000 with upgrades, the DR920P is half the price and out shoots it, straight out of the box. I have a lot of comped and ported guns, but few shoot like the DR920P. I also have a comp for the Walther PDP Pro, and that gun is not nearly as flat shooting as the DR920P. The point is, if someone is looking for an outstanding shooting firearm, out of the box, and you are not concerned about a specific competition division, you can spend less and get more. I appreciate the comment.

@@johnnyc8065 I would love too. Could put that money toward a new P32 SF that just came out, or a DWX. We are working on offloading it now. Hopefully, it goes through.

@@larrybruns5051 we made the video in January, so it was a lot more then. That's why we changed the title to outdated, as it is much cheaper now. We've had An additional year with the PDP now, so a follow-up will eventually get done. Thanks for the comment.

@@larrybruns5051 if you mean the PDP Pro SD over the standard PDP, then yes, it's better than the standard version. Trigger alone is a $180 upgrade, plus magwell and threaded barrel.

@@michaelphillips1532 Sorry to hear your's is worse than ours was. That's why we went over changing the spring out. Once you do that, she runs great. Still no excuse for the hit or miss reliability I am hearing about. Some say their's works fine out of the box. Perhaps it was a bad batch of springs or bad QC. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@@seandooley4881 I agree. That's actually a gun on my bucket list. Hope they eventually come out with an optic ready version. Thanks for stopping by.

@@The2AExperiment I believe they did just release an optics ready version. I saw it in a reel a few days ago. I love the PDP’s match/pro trigger though.

@@seandooley4881 I saw footage of it from the NRA show, but I can only find the compact model with the optic cut. Hopefully, it will come out soon.

We've only held and dry fired an Echelon that belongs to a friend. It's definitely a cool design with just about every feature you could want in a polymer firearm. We hope to shoot one soon, and we may end up getting one, who knows. I saw a threaded barrel version recently that sparked my interest. Thanks for watching and commenting. Enjoy your new Springfield.

@@angeloramos217 thank you for the sub. We did a full review of the PDP SF. You may want to check it out. There are some other channels out there that don't love the PDP 5" SF, but they are hard to find, and they are from non-Walter guys. It's a decent gun, and if the ergos work for you, that would be a plus. The best way to know is to shoot one. Some people really like this gun, so you might too. We've shot several other direct competitors of the PDP SF and we liked them all more than the PDP, especially at the steep price point. Thanks again. See you in the next one.

@@sonin15 What's up Soni? You should know.

@@The2AExperimentglad someone is giving it some love!

@@Zluken i mention the comp in the full video, but I had to cut it for time. Either way, the PDP SF weighs twice as much, costs twice as much, and has a far better trigger, and an upgraded guiderod and spring, so it really should be a great shooter., However, after thousands of rounds I still don't like it. Believe me, i wanted to, and I tried. I also have a lot of other comped guns, even a comp for the PDP Pro SD, and none of them shoot like the DR920P. I'm not a glock guy, so I was pretty surprised. I liked it so much I ended up buying it. Also, the results were not as good with Federal 147gr flat nose, but the 124gr Blazer Brass was pretty amazing. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@@The2AExperiment Ah thanks for a serious reply. It was just an observation. I have an shadow 2 and want to get an steel frame PDP. I want to shoot production with it and don't think an comp is ok.

@@Zluken no problem. The Shadow2 is a nice shooter. I get it though, starting a stage hammer down stinks. We have the 320 Legion and other striker fired firearms that shoot as nice or nicer than the PDP SF. Even the Cank SF shot as well, and felt smoother out of the box. I guess we just expected more out of the Walther SF, especially at the cost and need for upgrades. We like the poly version more. Good luck with your search for a new competition firearm, and if you get the Walther SF, we hope you like it. Some people swear by it. Thanks.

@@andrewlienkailin Awesome! We appreciate it.

@@HelixVega57 ouch! They are all nice guns. The DR920P really surprised us. The PDP Pro SD is pretty nice too, for the money.

So then why make a comment like “throw your walther in the trash” when you obviously know it’s a great gun lol. CZ fan boy behavior

@@aSucidalPanda lol. I am not a fanboy of any brand. Those who watched our reviews of the Walthers would understand why I said throw the Walthers in the trash. I may actually be a mild M&P fanboy though.

@@jamiecraig3036 Good eye, but it's not the gun or the mags. I have a high, 1911 style grip and Walthers have a very large, extended slidestop, so I ride it with my thumbs. I may not have mentioned it in this video, but it happens with our PDP Pro SD and the PDP SF.. I have the same issue with the FN 509 series, due to slidestop placement. Thanks for watching and commenting.