Were you that kid in high school band that drove your band teacher to alcoholism? The horn is taken way too seriously. Though, you've proven that it's a seriously versatile instrument. Even good for comedy. Thanks!
Respect for you, man! :-) Congratulation, very useful video. Can you please specify what are you filling in the embouchure at 8'30". The speech is not very clear on that moment and I like a lot the "el.gruitar-like" horn. Best! MaurilioCacciatore
+Maurilio Cacciatore at 8:30 I start using a straw reed. It is a drinking straw with a triangle-shaped cut on one end (diagram: <===) so it looks like a little beak. Then you play it like an oboe reed, with the other end stuck into the mouthpiece.
Yeah sorry about that. I wasn't going to take it upon myself to invent notations for the techniques that have none already, mostly because I don't think they would be used widely enough to be effective. For everything else that might already be notated, people should consult sources like the Doug Hill ext. tech. book.
As a composer interested in writing for the horn, I really appreciated this video. However, I do have a couple questions about multiphonics. When one is composing a piece for horn (or any brass instrument for that matter) that involves multiphonics, can they specify which part is to be sung and which part is to be played? Also, should they make the part that is to be sung in a neutral range so that it will be in the singing range of most horn players?
Weston Gilbert Yes, you should definitely specify which is to be sung by using smaller noteheads or similar. It could be below or above the horn pitch. Some people will be able to sing it convincingly, some won't. Because male and female often differ greatly, the only "safe" range might be above the horn's written C5, where women's voice would be pretty strong and men could use falsetto (if they are used to doing so), with a "safe" tessitura of an octave. But that's just my best guess from experience. Good luck!
Whew... no, that is a really hard one to describe easily, because the mouthpiece has to be a very specific distance from the cupped hand or lead-pipe to get the loudest volume. You might experiment to find the optimal distance and then literally say "blow forcefully into mouthpiece stem with rim ... centimeters from ...". Hardly concise, but that's the best I can think of without resorting to a little diagram.
Nice video! I was wondering, what is the best way to indicate to a player in a score the loud breathing technique? Would it be a written instruction and if so, is there a simple way to say what to do?
I wish I knew. But to do it in-tune is only necessary for "serious" music. So, to get the jist, shove your hand in the bell like a cork, pull it out barely a few centimeters, and then keeping the backs of the fingers flat and tight against the metal, rotate the palm inward so your hand is like a cup and the palm cuts of as much of the opening as possible. I feel like girl hands are better on average but that could be bullshit. Oh yeah, then transpose down a half step and don't use the trigger
For a beginner horn player, or just beginner for extended techniques? Or both? I also not aware of any beginning horn videos, but I bet there are some. If there are any videos of Froydis Ree Wekre on youtube, I would rate her as on of the best speakers for covering fundamentals.
That's factitious tones, as in "not real" tones. In the low register, you can lip things down a whole lot, though it takes a little extra control. It dates back to the natural horn, as in the Beethoven Sonata.
This video is gold in so many levels, you should do others of them. :D
I feel very uncomfortable right now...
Anyone else find the background music to be that of a porn film?
Thanks - fantastic resource.
I keep accidentally doing the "flutter phonics" thing where it sounds like a nasty growl. Someone please help
awesome!!
great
OMG
you finger you instrument, UA-cam should mark it inappropriate (at least for the little kids)
we need notation to go with these
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Thank you very much. Excellent!
Were you that kid in high school band that drove your band teacher to alcoholism? The horn is taken way too seriously. Though, you've proven that it's a seriously versatile instrument. Even good for comedy. Thanks!
+Jason Gabler Band director was my mother. Hope not...
Respect for you, man! :-) Congratulation, very useful video. Can you please specify what are you filling in the embouchure at 8'30". The speech is not very clear on that moment and I like a lot the "el.gruitar-like" horn. Best! MaurilioCacciatore
+Maurilio Cacciatore at 8:30 I start using a straw reed. It is a drinking straw with a triangle-shaped cut on one end (diagram: <===) so it looks like a little beak. Then you play it like an oboe reed, with the other end stuck into the mouthpiece.
scary.....
Superb!!!
FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!
Bruce Nolan
If you have given the notations/symbols for these effects in a score and which ranges these things can be done, it would have been infinitely helpful.
Yeah sorry about that. I wasn't going to take it upon myself to invent notations for the techniques that have none already, mostly because I don't think they would be used widely enough to be effective. For everything else that might already be notated, people should consult sources like the Doug Hill ext. tech. book.
As a composer interested in writing for the horn, I really appreciated this video. However, I do have a couple questions about multiphonics. When one is composing a piece for horn (or any brass instrument for that matter) that involves multiphonics, can they specify which part is to be sung and which part is to be played? Also, should they make the part that is to be sung in a neutral range so that it will be in the singing range of most horn players?
Weston Gilbert Yes, you should definitely specify which is to be sung by using smaller noteheads or similar. It could be below or above the horn pitch. Some people will be able to sing it convincingly, some won't. Because male and female often differ greatly, the only "safe" range might be above the horn's written C5, where women's voice would be pretty strong and men could use falsetto (if they are used to doing so), with a "safe" tessitura of an octave. But that's just my best guess from experience. Good luck!
Awesome. Thanks for the help.
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me too.....lol!!!!
Thank you mate!
thank you! This helped a lot! PS: I like you!! ;)
Haha, thank you, that is very kind.
Hey again, would the air breathing technique work for other brass instruments?
Awesome that's really helpful.
Whew... no, that is a really hard one to describe easily, because the mouthpiece has to be a very specific distance from the cupped hand or lead-pipe to get the loudest volume. You might experiment to find the optimal distance and then literally say "blow forcefully into mouthpiece stem with rim ... centimeters from ...". Hardly concise, but that's the best I can think of without resorting to a little diagram.
Nice video! I was wondering, what is the best way to indicate to a player in a score the loud breathing technique? Would it be a written instruction and if so, is there a simple way to say what to do?
Oh you're too kind...
this is by far the best video i have come across in youtube...
I wish I knew. But to do it in-tune is only necessary for "serious" music. So, to get the jist, shove your hand in the bell like a cork, pull it out barely a few centimeters, and then keeping the backs of the fingers flat and tight against the metal, rotate the palm inward so your hand is like a cup and the palm cuts of as much of the opening as possible. I feel like girl hands are better on average but that could be bullshit. Oh yeah, then transpose down a half step and don't use the trigger
Sure, if you're bonkers enough to ask you're ok by me.
Thanks!
you are amazing, thank you so much for your video
perfect!!! :D
For a beginner horn player, or just beginner for extended techniques? Or both? I also not aware of any beginning horn videos, but I bet there are some. If there are any videos of Froydis Ree Wekre on youtube, I would rate her as on of the best speakers for covering fundamentals.
thanks a lot!! i am just working on a piece for a french horn player from germany...keep in touch and good luck with your projetcs!
That's factitious tones, as in "not real" tones. In the low register, you can lip things down a whole lot, though it takes a little extra control. It dates back to the natural horn, as in the Beethoven Sonata.
Hi there, congrats for your video! what is the name for the 2.09 technique, with the low register? thanks a lot!
Sorry, I never made a score. Kind of impractical, but you're welcome to make one if you think it would get distributed and used.
huy brother is super, I would like to see as written, the score got out there?
Yes, frequently.
"Never explain yourself. Your friends don’t need it and your enemies won’t believe it." - Belgicia Howell (ostensibly rationalizing mental laziness)
ever thought about explaining how to do each one? i mean, some of them r obvious, like the straw but some of them need some explaining..... thx
Yes - I never heard a larger improvement in the sound since I got tone blobs.
Oh lawd, was the bell okay?
super!!!
Oh my god. This was amazing.
Yeah, I'll try anything.
It's a straw reed, as in a drinking straw. Cut an acute triangle in the top of it to make a crude double-reed!
what kind of reed do you use at 8:33 ?