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Great question. You can buy a new ProFX12v3 for about $360. So, at some point, fixing it may not be worth it if you have to pay somebody. For somebody who is doing it on their own for the first time, this probably would take 2-3 hours. But, this is probably a one hour job for somebody who knows what they are doing. What's a good hourly rate for a skilled audio technician? $100/hour? 200/hour? For the FX12, it might not be worth it. But, what if you had a larger mixer like a FX22 that runs almost $800? Maybe $200 or $300 would be worth it for the higher priced models.

I think what you are trying to say is that you have something plugged into Line 2. There is no ON or OFF switch for each line. The LEVEL for Line 2 controls volume. What are you plugging in to Line 2? Is this a XLR or TS cable? What is the cable connected to? Cables attached to nothing can create sounds when the other ends touches ANYTHING else and you should never do this. Also, when you plug in, hopefully you have the LEVEL turned all the way down, and then you can slowly turn the LEVEL up as you test your input volume (whether it's a guitar or a microphone, etc). That would be all my suggestions for diagnosing popping sounds. The Blue screen blinking definitely seems unusual. Maybe you're shorting it out? Try a different cable. Does it blink when you have nothing plugged in? Have you contacted support yet?

It has two 1/4" / XLR combo inputs. If you need more than two, then you need a mixing board.

@@DaveGoodrumMusic I see but can you also plug in common guitar plugs into this speaker?

@@gavinnadeau5603 Yes, that's 1/4", sometimes also called a TS cable/plug. The Soundtown has two combo plugs, accepting both XLR and 1/4" (TS).

@@DaveGoodrumMusic excellent thank you

Yes, I love it. It's a perfect loop every single time. However, you do have to make sure you teach it enough for your loop. You teach to start the percussion, then the loop as the same length as what you "taught". So, if you need to loop the verse, and the verse is 16 count of E A B7 (as an example), then you need to "teach" that 16 count E A B7 verse to train the percussion. Then when you are ready to loop at some point in the song, you just hit the Loop button with your foot pedal, and the loop will automatically start at the beginning of the verse (when the percussion comes back around) and it will also automatically stop at the end of the verse (when the percussion comes back around again). It's a perfect loop every time using this method because you don't have to hit the loop button perfectly. Just click it at any point before the verse starts. For example, I could be playing the A in my E A B7 verse, and I can click the Loop button while still on the A at count 6 of 16, but it won't start recording your loop until you come around the next time to the E. I never worry about starting the loop perfectly and never worry about stopping it perfectly. In this video, I only "teach" the percussion the E C#m 16 count. So, that is as much as I would be able to loop. If I wanted to loop the additional chords in this song, I would not be able to do it, because I only taught a 16 count. The actual verse is E A C#m A B E. So, if I wanted to loop that verse, I would not teach that entire verse at the beginning. But because I don't solo in this song, I don't bother teaching the whole verse, and just a 16 count is enough to get a good beat going.

@@DaveGoodrumMusic That's cool, very well explained ,it sounds complicated but like everything is probably intuitive after practice. I have a lot of experience with a twin pedal looper so I think I should just need to adjust the learning curve. It would save me having to loop a bass line with an octave pedal and set drum tempo or add rhythms.Would thin down the gear needed and concentrate on the music.Thanks for taking the time for this in depth reply,much appreciated. I have subscribed to your channel. Cheers

You must be looking at something different. Mine is NOT battery operated. And I just searched for CARPO L2 on Amazon and no where in the description does it say battery operated. I think you're looking at the wrong thing.

For practice, I leave it blank, and if it works that way, great. But, if it's too fast, do it again with it set "red" for for slow, or if it's too slow, do it again with it set "green" for fast, and see if that works for you. There's really only two speeds, not three. When you leave it blank, it tries to pick the right one., but if it's not doing a good job of it, you may need to force it by selecting the correct alt time before you teach it.

I have never heard of the Mooer X2 Drummer til just now. Looks pretty cool, but it doesn't look like there is a loop function on it. That seems like a serious flaw if you want to build tracks with it on the fly. The way the bpm is determined with the Mooer is either by the speed knob, or tap tempo, before you start; you can't set it by strumming (it doesn't learn while you play). And that could be okay. If using the speed knob method, I'd have to make a notation of what tempo I wanted (and corresponding position of speed knob) for each song in advance if trying to play live in public... or use the tap tempo which could be tricky (I'd have to try it to know how well it works with big clicky buttons). So, if you want the drums to start before, or exactly, when you start playing, this is a good feature. For me, I'm fine with drums coming in after I strum a tempo on the Trio+... though for some of my songs starting before would be great, and I have pre-recorded for those songs. This is going to be a personal preference I guess. I see advantages/disadvantages to both methods. I like the fill feature on the Mooer, and I also like the way the Mooer ends better. The Trio+ just stops when you step on the stop button on the pedal (unless you have pre-recorded all the parts). It's sometimes awkward, so I play the last chord a little louder to cover up any weirdness in the way the drums cut out. And if you do want to use the bass (which I do for really simple songs, or if I'm prerecording, or just having fun in the basement), you don't have that option with the Mooer. It's not a show stopper, but it's a "nice to have" on occasion. Without actually trying it out, my conclusion is that the lack of a looper kills the Mooer for me. The speed setting could easily be worked with, and potentially advantageous, and the fills and endings are much better with the Mooer. And even though I only use the looper on a handful of songs, I do love my occasional guitar solos! I recently performed a gig with NO vocals, and it was purely building loops with percussion for two hours. So much fun!

I think I’d only use the drum part. How good is the learning? Like you, I’d be live gigging for a few hours. Also, do you manage to always find a style that works?

@@ryancorbett I use the Trio+ for about 60% of my songs, and "usually" have no issues with the learning. Occasionally the Trio gets wonky and I get some crazy rhythm, and I attribute to it human error or alcohol. :) When that happens, I stop the Trio real quick (foot pedal), and just play the song without it. Or, sometimes I'll make a joke that my drum machine must be on Meth, and then give it another try. :) For the songs I use the Trio on, I practice that song in the basement about a dozen times to make sure I can get the same rhythm every single time. If I don't get consistent results, I either add it to the pre-record list, or I just don't use the Trio for that song. I almost always find a style that works though. When I first practice a song with the Trio, I loop the guitar chords with the drums and then switch through a bunch of genre's and styles while it's playing, so I can hear the rhythm with the guitar to figure out what works. It's quite a bit of experimentation, but usually 10-15 minutes I've picked out the right mix and then I write it down on the ipad. Sometimes I'll write down two different ones even. One for a chill environment like a laid back indoor winery setting, and then a more raucous drum mix for my local biker bar I sometimes play at (or similar establishment). Also, sometimes you'll find that volume level for certain genre's is just too loud. "Rock" genre is always louder than the "jazz" genre. I always turn the volume up a bit for jazz, and down for Rock. I've never used the Heavy Metal Genre.

Yes, I compared the SDRUM to the Trio+ when I was first looking at these. I was close to pulling the trigger on the SDRUM. I'd love to try one out some day and compare the two!

not sure I understand the statement "kill spontaneous playing". It takes about 5-10 seconds to teach just about any song with just two foot pedal clicks. Also, if I'm out at a paid gig, there is nothing spontaneous about the songs I'm playing; I have a set list I am working through. If I get a request for a song that I haven't practiced with the Trio, then I simply don't use the Trio and play pure acoustic. Although, I have to say, I"d never seen the BK7m before, but it looks pretty cool. I'd have to dig into it. However, is this commercial for it straight out of the 80s? Love the accordian! ua-cam.com/video/MMi7oIZN3Rk/v-deo.html

I use my Trio in desktop mode, so that I can easily reach the knobs, and use the foot pedal instead. The right foot pedal button starts the "learning", then click it again to finish learning, just like on the trio itself. The left foot pedal starts the looping. The center foot pedal switches parts, and I never use that. I wish I could assign it to do something else. The style doesn't "change" if you set the the style BEFORE you start learning. I have notes that will say "Country Style 4", and I set the dials to that, then start the learning and it stays Style 4. If you don't set the Style before learning (meaning it's blank and nothing lit up on style), then it will try to choose a style for you. Set the style and you should get pretty consistent results. I have pre-programmed a 11 parts to use for songs that sometimes are unpredictable, or have very long intros that I want to loop over, but for most songs, I just do it on the fly. The only issue I sometimes have is that it plays double time and sounds awful. I almost always set the Alt Time to Red (slower), and if I have to increase it I quickly hit the Alt Time button to double time. I run the drums out separately. You don't need a Y cable. I have guitar (amp) going out to one channel and then I plug another 1/4" cable into "mixer" for another channel. The drums only go out the Mixer channel when you do this, that way you can separate the two and add bass/treble/FX as needed to either channel separately. Good luck!

@@DaveGoodrumMusic THANKS. VERY HELPFUL INFO! I use my Trio in desktop mode, so that I can easily reach the knobs, and use the foot pedal instead. The right foot pedal button starts the "learning", then click it again to finish learning, just like on the trio itself. The left foot pedal starts the looping. The center foot pedal switches parts, and I never use that. I wish I could assign it to do something else. I TRIED THIS BUT MIGHT HAVE TO UPDATE FIRMWARE. IT'S NOT WORKING CORRECTLY, ACCORDING TO THE CHART. RIGHT PEDAL IS DOING NOTHING. IN LIVE MIX MODE PEDAL 1 AND 2 MUTE ALL- 3RD BUTTON AGAIN DOES NOTHING. YES I AM USING A TRS CABLE. The style doesn't "change" if you set the the style BEFORE you start learning. I have notes that will say "Country Style 4", and I set the dials to that, then start the learning and it stays Style 4. If you don't set the Style before learning (meaning it's blank and nothing lit up on style), then it will try to choose a style for you. Set the style and you should get pretty consistent results. I WILL HAVE TO DO THIS MORE. IT REALLY SHOULD DEFAULT TO POSITION "1" CONSISTENTLY. I FIND IT ANNOYING HOW IT CHANGES RANDMONLY EVEN IF NOTHING IS RECORDED. SHORT OF A FACTORY RESET, IS THERE A QUICK WAY TO DELETE ALL THE PRESETS ON A SAVED SONG? TRIO IS GREAT, BUT NOT PERFECT AT ALL WITH HOW IT SAVES. I have pre-programmed a 11 parts to use for songs that sometimes are unpredictable, or have very long intros that I want to loop over, but for most songs, I just do it on the fly. The only issue I sometimes have is that it plays double time and sounds awful. I almost always set the Alt Time to Red (slower), and if I have to increase it I quickly hit the Alt Time button to double time. I LIKE THE RED SETTING. LOOKS MORE YELLOW ON MINE. HALF TIME. YES, I NEED TO SET STYLE FIRST. I HAVE TRIED THIS AND THINK I STILL HAD AN ISSUE- BUT IT IS A GOOD PRACTICE FOR SURE. I AM ALWAYS CHASING IT. WHAT CHORDS GET YOU THE MOST ACCURATE BAND OUTCOME? AMaj7 AND DMaj7 WORK WELL FOR ME. I run the drums out separately. You don't need a Y cable. I have guitar (amp) going out to one channel and then I plug another 1/4" cable into "mixer" for another channel. The drums only go out the Mixer channel when you do this, that way you can separate the two and add bass/treble/FX as needed to either channel separately. Good luck! HOW DO YOU ADD EFFECTS TO EITHER CHANNEL SEPARATELY? I LIKE HAVING A FULL RANGE SIGNAL GO OUT TO MY STUDIO MONITORS. I WOULD NOT WANT TO STRIP OUT THE GUITAR. IF YOU GO OUT VIA HEADPHONE OUT, YOU WILL GET STEREO. IT WOULD BE IDEAL IF I COULD ADJUST EACH PARAMETER "ON EACH CHANNEL," GUITAR, DRUMS AND BASS.

@@MOAB-UT are you sure you have a Trio+, and not just a regular Trio? According to the Trio+ manual, when using the footswitch, you can select three different configurations. I use "Table Top" configuration (press and hold button 2 while plugging in to set it to Table Top the first time. you only have to do this once, unless you change SD cards). Regarding style changing, I don't really have an issue, since I change it between every song. If I'm playing "Country 4" as an example, and then end the song, I hold down the right foot button to clear the song, then I rotate everythign to whatever the next song is. If I don't change anything, it stays on Country 4. But, if the next one is "Alt Rock 1", I rotate genre to Alt Rock, then style to 1. I've gotten pretty quick at it. No issues. And you are correct, I should have said "YELLOW" for the alt time setting, not "RED". Regarding best chords, it's not really about chords. It's about the rhythm I perform almost 50 songs using this with all different chord progressions. The only time I have issues is when I am playing chords not directly on the beat. There's a whole section in the manual on teaching tips. Regarding Effects, I run both channels into a mixing board, which I can use to add effects to either channel. You don't have to do it this way, it's just what I do.

@@DaveGoodrumMusic Thanks and yes, I am sure. I very definitely paid $400 and it says + on it AND HAS A LOOPER. I could not find a link to update the Firmware. I just tried another TRS cable and it still does not work.

The bass is not great for most songs unless that song is very simple. But if you have a bridge or chorus with different chord changes then the bass wont match. Having said that, I like this better than the beat buddy for ease of use and flexibility. Having the trio in desktop mode gives me easy access to the dials between songs and then use the foot pedal to start/stop/loop. Plus I do use this for looping the guitar also. Perfect loop every time bc it forces a match of the percussion track. Plus I like the way it learns your rhythm. I dont have to tell it what the speed is. I play one round of chords and it knows the tempo. I use this live for gigs and I dont want to fumble around setting up the pedal between songs. Song ends, clear memory, choose the next style and start playing.

@@DaveGoodrumMusic Yes nice thing is the guitar loop is always in synch with the drums.

@@DaveGoodrumMusic- If the chords of a chorus, verse, or bridge change, then all you have to do it teach the different progressions and add them to the “Part 1”, Part 2”, etc. so they’re ready for sequencing (either automatic or pedal-controlled). That’s why the 5 “Part” buttons are up there.

@@jamesdeininger3759 100%. If you want to pre-record all your parts, that works great. I play about 60 songs in a 3 hour gig. I don't feel like swapping out SD cards every 12 songs. :) So, I don't really use that feature except on a few songs. I've pre-recorded 11 songs that I enjoy playing that have weird starts, and so teaching the Trio+ isn't an option for those songs necessarily. But, everything else I do on the fly.

Liked this thread. Realistically you don’t want to be ‘setting up the next song’. Just jump straight in which this pedal looks good for.

The only "effects" are the different DSP settings, and I would not really call them effects, it's more like equalizer settings. But, I would never play straight into this; I run my guitar and voice through the Play Acoustic (by TC Helicon) before sending to the Carpo L2. If you are gigging, I highly recommend adding something like this to your performance. The ability to add reverb, chorus and other effects to both your guitar and voice are pretty cool.

not sure if they've changed the design, but the 12" sub on the bottom has a handle on the tops to make them easier to carry. They are quite heavy, so having a bag wouldn't really help carry these, IMO, but maybe would be good for protection. Or if you had something with wheels that would be helpful too!

There is a handle on the back top. Just like the EV ones similar to this design. Those have slipcovers. With openings for the handles. But, they don’t fit. And they’re like $120 each. Just the powered sub is shy of 35 pounds. I wouldn’t consider that heavy. I usually carry one in each hand with the array bags around my shoulders. The bags would be helpful to keep them from getting beat up during transport. I did follow a UA-cam video with a guy making custom covers for his speakers. I had custom made the pattern for the L2, but I don’t sew. He tried it with fabric fusing tape but the hot sun just melts that away.

I'm bout to buy!!!!

@@tombird2483 thank you! Will give it a try……

Yes, as I mentioned in my pinned comment, it's Sound Town.

It would depend on size of venue. For the wedding itself, I think you'll be fine. But, one of these will definitely not be as loud as 2 x 12 inch speakers at the reception. And if the reception is a big hall, or outdoors and you need to get the dance floor hopping, I'd say no. I'm envisioning 90 people to mean a very large venue. And I think for a reception that big, you need two speakers. I'd even consider an extra subwoofer depending on the playlist. You can always by two of these and pair them. But, if you are still lugging around your mixing board and now two sets of these, I don't think that would solve your problem. The specs say this thing weighs 45 pounds! Two of these might give you plenty of sound and pretty good quality too... but now you have more gear, not less.

@@DaveGoodrumMusic Thanks. I believe it's going to be outdoors with a tent in case of bad weather. There is no big hall at the mansion where the wedding is happening. Since my current PA has been plenty loud enough for different sized bands at venues large and small, indoors and out, I guess that's what I'm going with. Also, if I went with the L2, then I'd need my mixer and my current one is a moderately heavy pre-digital Behringer - so, as you point out, I don't end up reducing weight or setup complexity. Thanks for helping me think this through.

It all depends on how big the area is and type of music. If you are looking for that body shaking bass, I'd go with a dedicated subwoofer type system. Or if it's a larger indoor area and they want the music to be deafening, then this won't do it. Though you could buy two and pair them, which I have not tested. Or if you are outdoors, I think you would need something bigger. I have a different system for outdoors. But, I do still think this could work in many situations still. It just depends.

Great question... give it a shot and let us know how it goes! What's the worst that can happen?!?!?

@@DaveGoodrumMusic Amazingly it worked. I just removed the Pot Plastic Switch and squirted in plenty of contact cleaner. After half and hour leaving it to dry I tested it and it seemed fine. I wouldn't recommend it as a full service but if its just one Scratchy pot then it's worth trying.

i figure the compressed air gets rid of a lot of the dust that are in and around the electronics, and then use the electronics cleaner. If you want to do the cleaner first, no issues, but to me it makes more sense to do the compressed air first. And yes, lubricate last. You want it as clean as possible before adding lubricant, which is what I do in this video.

Thanks for the feedback. Just FYI, it's not a stereo setup. It's mic out and guitar out, so that I can control volume levels for each input. Maybe you didn't read the full description of why I'm doing this test? In the last paragraph I explain that I had read reviews from other people that the other version just wasn't loud enough, even with the volume cranked. They said it was clipping constantly. So, that's really what I wanted to test... is it loud enough. You'll notice that's the only thing I really talk about, over and over, doing multiple tests.... is it loud enough? For me, the answer is yes.

If you have a constant hum or buzz, that's likely some sort of electrical interference or a transistor or capacitor going bad. First, determine if the buzz is from the board or from something plugged into the board. If you have a buzz or hum with NO inputs, then the buzz is caused by the board. If the buzz only happens when something is plugged in, does it happen on every input, with every device? Go through the process of elimination to isolate the problem. You could also try a different power source to see if it makes a difference. Try a completely different electrical circuit in the house or buy a power conditioner strip like the Furman Power Conditioner strip. If you still have the buzz, then you have serious issues and a cleaning won't help.

@@DaveGoodrumMusic I will try all of the above and let you know. Thanks for the advice.

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I get that more than you think!!!

@@DaveGoodrumMusic sorry, its just that the video was good but that point stood out a little more..just that little bit more