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Super useful info, thank you! I should have watched this yesterday. I've struggled with the wire trying to spring back into a coil every time I've needed to replace a string, and one of the pianos I saw today was missing 2 strings. It was an adventure... :) Going to go tune my wire brakes _now_ so I will be prepared next time!

What a great surprise to hear Maggie in Spanish! As always, a pleasure to watch your videos!

Convinced there is nothing Maggie cannot do and DO WELL!

Muy bien español , good.

Que bueno espagole!

I'm happy to see that test for the 8:6 4th. Very interesting! and unusual. Watching the presentations you and Rick Butler did on "plasticity of the 5th" really changed my tuning approach. After 32 years of tuning aurally, I'm still finding cool stuff to learn and explore! Thanks for keeping the dream alive!

I love your videos. They're deeply technical, and yet approachable, not least because your smile is audible even when you don't show your face. You did a video a while back about finding the check note for an interval. I didn't entirely follow, but I think I'm getting it now. In this video it seems that to find a check note, you can start from the coincident partial note you're interested in, and count back down the keyboard an octave plus a fifth plus a fourth plus a major third plus a minor third (does that make it a 22nd interval?). I'm not convinced that makes any sense. Nor am I sure why I couldn't choose some other check note that shares that coincident partial loudly enough that it's easy to hear. Maybe I need to think about what makes a particular note useful for checking an interval. And maybe I'm rambling. One last item: it's encouraging that I can hear the beats on your piano, even through UA-cam and my crummy speakers. My own piano isn't the greatest, and some notes are fairly muddled, as I get around to restoring its important parts. Anyway, thanks for the videos!

Great explanation. When string are hit with a harder attack the pitch raises from the string stretching more. When played softer it’s lower in pitch.

Hi Maggie. Thanks for the video. I’ve struggled with this many times on pianos. There is a possible product I have came across from pianoforte (Johnathan page) and it’s called counter bearing lube. Not CLP. It’s for rendering those points. I’m not completely certain about it but just wanted to put it out there that it may be another thing to try on the agraffes.

Hi Maggie, I use the Travis-Grabau tuning temperament (from John Travis' book "A Guide to Restringing," p.86-98), where one uses thirds and sixths. In the process, I check with minor thirds/major thirds, and beyond the temperament, tenths and double tenths.

I never knew. Based on a recent PTG Journal article I am starting to tune the low tenor notes a tad flat in the winter (as far as 2.4 cents flat for the lowest plainwire tenor note and then decreasing every note following i.e. -2.4c -2.2c -2.0c -1.8c -1.6c etc.) so that in the higher humid indoor summer the tenor section won't go as far sharp as it would if I didn't tune them flat by a few cents. In doing so though, I find the 5ths just ever so slightly intolerable played by themselves (i.e. F2C3 where F2 is on the bass bridge and C3 is the lowest plainwire on the tenor bridge). I can see why now...because the narrowed 5ths suffer from the 2nd coincidental partial being narrowed further. I suppose that in the summer when the low tenor bridge notes go sharp the wide 4ths in that break between tenor and bass bridge won't sound as bad as the narrow 5ths in the winter. Also, I actually go the opposite way for high inharmonicity pianos (spinets). Instead of widening the stretch I'll actually reduce the stretch so that the lower coincidental partials sound better (at the suffering of quick beating higher coincidental partials). Reason being is that in a general music context (when someone is actually playing music on the piano and not testing individual intervals) the higher coincidental partials are easily not recognized as being fast beating. I once had a piano with amazingly awful inharmonicity throughout the entire piano...all bass notes were very short and were 1 string per note and all other notes were 2 strings per note. Because the inharmonicity was so bad I could have done a very wide stretch to try and compensate between the lower and higher coincidental partials sounding good, but they would have sounded equally really bad (super fast beating lower coincidental partials with equally super fast beating higher coincidental partials). So, instead of have both lower and higher awfully beating partials I just tuned with very low stretch so that the lower coincidental partials sounded great and the higher beating partials were so so so fast that they were unrecognizable as beating.

I always get confused on which harmonic to hear if the high pitch or the low pitch to count the beats

Good video, Maggie. Generalizing about the affect of inharmonicity on beat rates is extremely complex and obviously varies from piano to piano. But the effect of stretching the octave on the relative beat rates of the fourth and fifth is straight-forward and extremely useful: In stretching (tempering) the octave, the beat rates of the fourth and fifth are inversely proportional. That is as one increases stretch in the octave, the fourths tend to get faster and the fifths tend to get slower. And the difference in beat rates between the 4th and 5th is a good measure of the stretch of the octave. That is, in the 4th-5th test of the 4:2 octave, say, the difference in beat rate between the C3-F3 4:3 fourth and the F3-C4 3:2 fifth _is_ the beat rate of the C3-C4 4:2 octave. Every time. Sorry to butt in. Kent Swafford

Gracias Maggie por mostrar tu tecnica ! Eres una genia !.Te sigo siempre .......

Waoo exelent

I'm working with a lot of consoles and spinets. I'm having a hard time because i either get too tight of pins or too loose. The loose ones you can lightly tap the hammer and it goes of by 10+ cents.

LOVE THISSSSSSSS!!!!!! 😊

Innovative! Give your other fingers a day off 😁

Thanks for sharing ! I'm not a professionnal and it made things cristal clear. As for my piano E4 string, I guess I should get more strings ... Should I order one of the same thickness ? Better repare it than change it. Am I right ?

Surgeons knot is less likely to slip

Thanks so much for this. But I have a different problem really nailing the perfect fifths that I'm seeking ua-cam.com/video/vXsBwxCOZXQ/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/1ivRR9sYZ0A/v-deo.html

Is it because of the piano but that octave sounds horrible to me!? :-(

I thought this was about to be about ghost notes when playing🤣 Great video though

THIS IS GOLD!!!!!!!

SO GOOD and so well explained. Again, another amazing problem-solve from Maggie!! 💥

EXCELLENT solve! Thank you so much for sharing such a helpful video, Maggie!

Thank you for this 🙏

I've been doing warts-and-all videos of complete tunings to encourage people and ua-cam.com/video/6WEX5JC8Hac/v-deo.html is in encouragement for pianists to attend to slipped unisons themselves. However, on tonally deficient 19th century instruments were unisons as pure as we work them to be today ua-cam.com/video/QF224PZBEvY/v-deo.html ?

Hi! How do you get rid of that higher pitched howling?

Thank you this is great!

Thanks Maggie!

Your analysis of loose pins, tight friction and the variable variables is brilliantly described. On many instruments I find variable variables even in the same instrument and I put a washer on looser pins so that in moving from one pin to another the felt washer warns me to apply a more gentle tension. With many of the instruments I tune the 90 degrees position works really well for me. One can pull sharp and then as the pin bends forward the string settles down into pitch and it's where it wants to be. On the subject of damage by pins bending it's minimised by having a short tuning tip as you have here. Many levers have tips which are much too long, or are at an absurd upwards angle and these must put the wrong leverage on the wrestplank and would seem more liable to cause damage. Thanks for this video. Many people are too prescriptive in technique and different methods have different applications in different circumstances. One method cannot be universal. I had an instrument which wasn't greatly coorperative so tried the 12 o'clock method ua-cam.com/video/1ivRR9sYZ0A/v-deo.html and didn't get on with it.

About 20 years ago, I apprenticed with a long time family friend and local piano tuner who only tunes aurally. He taught me how to listen to the beat speeds and the characteristics of what to listen for in the different intervals, and the requisite checks that make it all possible. I still don't know how one does it, I can hear all the beat speeds happening but after a while my ear goes numb to them and I end up just settling and moving on, only to find later on that I "didn't quite get it right" Aural tuners like him that can set the temperament octave so quick and with incredible accuracy amaze me! I love this type of content!

What are you using for the actual weight parts?

Slick!

Very difficult to hear overtones in this kind of recordings (and I am listening through studio monitors)

I'm glad that you too find that you don't like things so much when you hear it back in the video! Yes it happens to me too. Thanks for a great video. I'd never thought of measuring unisons with thirds before.

From an engineering perspective, you were talking complete nonsense, until I read your comment. It appears that your use of the word 'tightness' is actually refering to kinetic friction and your use of just friction refers to static friction. In other words, once the pin starts to move, it might 'slip' (low kinetic friction) and then stick (high static friction). And there's your 4 combinations.

I could tell that the sea was sharp right from the very first fifth as it was too clean sounding, and the other measurements confirmed, great video though, I love this idea.

Hi Maggie, your videos are always very useful! Could you post something about tuning very low notes? Thank you

The owner of the piano is already deaf. Please, don't try too hard.

Instead of a tuning the owner got a samba session, good deal 🤝

Maggie, you are the best teacher. Wow- you just make things possible to learn and understand!

Soooo smart! Love these ideas, Maggie!

I really enjoy these puzzlers! Thank you Maggie! I'm really grateful I found your channel 🙂

I’m so lost! 😂😂

By any chance, do you have ALL of the worksheets online that you’ve made so far so that I could download and print out? The link for this video doesn’t work for me.

Even with the strings, these things have a mind of their own, trust me on that. 😂