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Base guanyin does no damage to Mereum in the manga. After thousands of blows he only feels a dull internal ache. The zero hand damage isn't " heavy damage" either, it's a vaguely non threatening amount to Mereum. There is no basis for Netero being strong enough to kill the ants with constant attacks nor zero hand oneshotting them. The ants are all weaker than Mereum obv but you can't prove they're so weak that what Netero did to Mereum means he'd kill them. Anyone can argue for the ants by saying they just survive every attack until Netero is out of aura and they'd be eqaully as justified in thinking this as you are in thinking Netero will just kill them. If not more so to be honest. This is also not how their abilities work.

I’m writing a fanfic and I honestly think I’d stick to these numbers because SSJ being a 500x makes some sense to why no one mastered SSJ3. Because if SSJ3 is 400x from base it would make sense to try and mostly use that form but since SSJ is actually 500x from base is already higher hence why most characters stick with just SSJ

Crazy idea: super saiyan just adds 147 million to your power level

In a 1V1 it's debatable since they are physically stronger, faster, and more durable. While Netero is smarter, more skilled, has more experience, and arguably better abilities. In a 3V1 they stomp though.

SSJ 1 10x multiplier stated by Akira T.. The publishers put 50x.

Gon let Pitou take his arm btw.

I think there is a very decent argument that netero could 1v3 them. Regardless of whether it's a 1v1 or 1v3 there is no chance any of the royal guard could compete with or even strategize against neteros incomprehensible and logic defying speed. This would make it EXTREMELY difficult to organize a win condition against him. Remember when netero launched a simple attack that Pitou was incapable of avoiding separating him (pitou is a guy) from the castle? I genuinely believe netero could easily perform the same in a 1v3 separating Pitou from the other 2 and finishing off Pouf before Pitou could even get back in the fight. I think the strongest argument however is neteros battle experience the ONLY reason meruem saw through the small behavioral bias in Neteros barrage was due to his incredible intellect and his constant logistical training against Komugi. This is problem solving and strategizing that all 3 of the royal guard lack making neteros barrage of attacks fatal, indestructible and inreactable to them

before this I thought ssj grade 4 is just ssj but it doesn't drain power, while ssj after time becomes weaker, and ssj grade 1 and two are like 65 from 85 multipliers, but they also drain faster. In this video you claim that ssj grade 2 and 3 are waaay stronger, but with an higer powerm drain, and it makes sense, but making ssj grade 4 that strong is absurd, but could close the gap between ssj and ssjgod, because in db super it seems that ssj is till viable, but whit logic it shoudn't. however, if we take this and the fact that gok ki power (not full ssj god multiplier) was absorbed in base (not really, they still don't have god ki in base but it's a power emulation) and counting that when going ssj god the two god ki boosts don't stack, just ssjgod multipler and boost of having true god ki, the power gap and forms power scaling makes more sense

Not dissing or anything....do u know how massive the macrocosm is including the bubble.i want your opinion

Think about how strong Kite was for her to come up with a move like Terpsichora to fight him, and he still left her with bruises and cuts

Bro adult gon would quite literally murder netero Netero has a strong men ability certainly but it literally is a nerf he basically placed on himself which makes sense as netero likes to challenge himself Netero is being incredibly wasteful with his men by using the two worst nen types and while the conditions likely make up for this Gon is also a pure enhancer and on top of this he is speculated to have more potential than netero and made a more powerful men vow. Finally in this fight gon was basically using 100% of his aura for enhancing which would mean that all of his physical stats should be well above netero

The 3 royal guards vs meruem is a better fight imo

Why do you think he loses a 1v3? He's so fast he'd have no trouble reacting to different opponents simultaneously, and both Pouf and Youpi are too instinctual and straightforward to make him think very hard. Also, Netero was confident he could beat Meruem in a contest of endurance. This tells me that his 1-99 hands are purely physical attacks meant to batter down opponents without consuming his own aura, meabing he doesnt lose to stall tactics. Worst case scenario, he can clap, making shockwaves to kill Pouf's dispersed cells which would work after enough time. Sure, if they were present during the Meruem fight, he'd get stomped, but even together they can't properly press him.

Ssj grade 2 is 17.5 times multiplier than the grade due to vegeta tanking a galic gun by semi perfect cell as scale Vegeta is a 1 Semi-perfect cell is a 100 (due to cell feeling comfortable against ssj vegeta Ssj vegeta is 50 Semi-perfect cell then powers up making him a 125 Semi perfect’s galic gun 437.5 ASSJ/SSJG2 vegeta is a 875

It’s actually very simple Super sayan 1, 50x multiplier Super sayan 2, 100x multiplier Super Sayan 3, 200x multiplier Super sayan 4, 400x multiplier Super sayan God, 600x multiple Super Sayan blue, 30000x But in hero’s super Sayan 4 is as strong as super Sayan blue keoken times 20… and so Power levels are bull sht. In the ending of hero’s Super Sayan 4 + (what was practically keoken x20 was as strong as perfected ultra instinct, which would be jumping from ss4 being 400x to it being around 400000x which makes no sense absolutely at all?!! (I know a lot of my math and spelling is wrong but I thinks you get the point)

After they get have the first super Saiyan transformation their base form probably increases a lot and the multiplier goes down

1:53 where do you find the manga in japanese? I'm learning japanese and it would be cool to read the manga to learn faster :)

Note how Vegeta used an attack that used up all his life force energy (similar to the Shin Kikoho which allowed Tenshinhan to stall Cell) which failed vs Boo and yet Super Saiyan 3 could’ve beaten Boo 🗿 And V-Jump in 2004 states that Coola had a PL of 470,000,000 while Gogeta is 2,500,000,000; meaning V-Jump likely had way different opinions on the multipliers of Super Saiyan 2 & 3 than the Super Exciting Guides 🗿

In my opinion the Royal Guard wins, one good hit from any of them is certain death

the forms increase their strenght, not power speed and many other things

Love this video but the way you pronounced some words made me slightly annoyed like I’m used to people saying “merUem” and “BEelzebub”

Well by holding back could mean he couldve landed headshoys or heart shoys

_Good video, but I have quite a few disagreements there. While El Legendario is officially licensed, this is just a Spanish translation of an already existing Japanese guidebook. The Japanese guide they translated it from mentions nothing about an x10 multiplier. So this can be ruled a translation error. Much like how the dub messed up by saying Instant Transmission is LS._ _While Grade 2 is "much stronger" than Grade 1, being much stronger in DB can range anywhere from 20% stronger to 20 times stronger, and beyond. It doesn't really mean much._ _The other Spanish guide, as far as I am aware, is not an actual officially licensed booklet. But even if it was, the SSJ multipliers would still be correct, as nothing suggests Grade 3 is 2 or more times Grade 1._ _SSJ2 being x2 is is directly in reference to Grade 1, as the arrow points directly at the same x50 Grade 1 Goku. Even if Grade 4 were to be stronger than Grade 1, that'd just mean Grade 4 is in-between 50 and 100 times._

You have forgot about super saying 4

Super interesting video man! Please, keep up the good work!

The only RG that Netero can defeat one-on-one is Pitou and even that may become a tie because of post-mortem Nen. Youpi has the most amount of aura after the King and cannot be injured by normal means. He can outlast Netero and survive Zero hand. Poof can read Netero's intentions and disperse his body into particles to avoid attacks. All of them is overkill.

Damn bro ian know you was akira writing db for us 🤭

A single royal guard would blitz and oneshot the entire troupe let alone all three and no pitou vs current hisoka is not close in the slightest kite drawing blood from pitou doesnt even mean anything when pitou had pretty clearly toyed with kite and was not going all out pitou would blitz and oneshot current hisoka as well the phantom troupe vs royal guards is not close in the royal guards favor.

This is awesome dude, I love your content so far, An idea for future video you could do would be how the leaf ninja from Naruto would do against each of the sound 5 and Sasuke

Shiapouf alone low diffs phantom troupe lol

I disagree on the notion that any of the members of the Phantom Troupe would have the slighest chance to even harm them or win in a stamina battle. Meruem trying to kill Pitou gave her a small bruise on the cheek and a little nosebleed, Meruem goes through Netero's body like it is butter and he was going easy on Netero, but in Pitou's case he wanted to kill her, yet couldn't. Nobody in the Troupe can harm the Guard at all.

Good video. U should talk about the 14 princes sometime that’d be fun

Unfortunately if its all three of the guard vs all the troupe the troupe gets stomped, even with hisoka and illumi. Maybe with post mortem hisoka, prep time, and if it turns out that nobanaga and the less explored members of the troupe are on the same tier as hisoka and illumi then it would probably 50/50. But just remember that youpi stomped killua, knuckle, shoot, meleoron, and morel. Morel is definitely stronger than all of the troupe besides maybe hisoka, illumi, and chrollo, so it just doesn’t look good for them.

Good job, keep up the grind friend. Love videos like these.

Pitou kills all of them

Great video man

royal guards win easily

no offense but i honestly think that the royal guards will win on mid diff. if given time to royal guards to explore the nen world then then the fight will be low diff instead of mid.

Idk why but why did you include hisoka and illumi? At least to my knowledge illumi is not a member of phantom troupe and hisoka faked his membership on troupe. Maybe hisoka but i dont think illumi should be in there? So without illumi, I think royal guards are more likely to win this combat but with illumi it's a different story. Hisoka and Illumi are most likely the powerful among all the troupes. I know that feitan is strong too but I dont think he can handle alone hisoka or illumi since we all know what hisoka is capable of which makes illumi a strong one too because hisoka respects what illumi is capable of too.

I think Frieza narratively is being shown to be stronger than Beerus, as he’s already claimed to wanna overthrow Zeno even, let alone Beerus, so I feel as if those implications help the argument that Frieza is stronger due to us not knowing the upper limit to either of their powers

There a fanfiction that does actual good job at calculating the power of Super Saiyan called Bringer of Death. Also if Vegeta fan he basically main character in it.

Frieza is nowhere near Beerus lol

I'm sorry but there's no chance he can 1v3 them. I can prove it easily Everyone is saying "oh he could just keep slapping them out forever", and like yes that'll work... for one minute. People forget the only Royal Guard that died was Pitou who gave up their life to someone at the level of Netero, but imagine the three of them going seriously at him taking in count the FEATS we see the guards doing. First Pitou handled a slap without suffering damage, one that Netero probably threw at the best strength in hopes of either kill it or send it flying, yet did no damage compared with one of Prime Gon's kicks. To me this means the 100 type Bodhisattva while being of course really strong, isn't enough to considerable damage the guards unless he just targeted one and tried to slap tf out of them crazily. However they would never let him: Pouf would mostly be useless but here's what's important: there's no way he can die, he can just be around Netero separating himself into multiple pieces, create fakes of himself to try and distract him, and then Youpi has more Nen than Netero and more physical raw power so even if he can be slapped around, he can become bigger and grow wings, Pitou can just stand around but again Netero can't kill them either, they can escape if Netero tries to target them and stay in case Youpi needs to be healed but that's basically what would happen, Netero would slowly lose most of his aura after hours and hours of fighting that the guards can endure. And of course the guards would just do that because remember: just Youpi has more IQ than Netero, he's naturally really smart, imagine the three of them combined.

Pretty good analysis and conclusion, I personally think Beerus is more powerful, since I've heard that Toriyama retconned the statement made in the Broly Movie where Goku thinks that Broly was stronger than Beerus because he intends for Beerus to be a character that Goku and Vegeta can never surpass, although I can't seem to find any proof to back these claims unfortunately, but if these statements are true (and if I can find proof) it would mean unless Frieze also always remains more powerful than Goku and Vegeta, then the day they surpass him would confirm that Beerus is more powerful.

Nice vid

amazing video keep up the good work

The scale makes sense if we assume mastering ssj isn’t a direct multiplier. For example, Vegeta and Trunks never put the effort into mastering it right? They learned how to boost the multiplier but they didn’t raise their base power enough. Goku and Gohan mastered the transformation and in the process, pushed their base power a lot higher. So the multipliers could stand but having a lower base power makes mastering ssj the better route. After the time chamber it was stated Goku and Gohan were stronger. Let’s look at some numbers lol Lets assume imperfect cell was an even 500M and let’s assume Goku’s power level when he meets trunks is around 4.5M. The androids being twice as strong as ssj Goku, puts them at 450M. 16 should be around 525M. Definitively stronger than imperfect cell. 2nd form cell being around 600M claps them. Now let’s get to our saiyans. Vegeta in grade 2 clapped 2nd form cell. If it’s about 65x base, that puts Vegeta at 9.5M base power. So far so good. This is 3 years after Goku met trunks plus the time chamber. It makes sense that Vegeta would double 4.5M at least. So far so good. Perfect Cell, I put at 800M. He got a bigger boost from 18 and now he has access to his full power. Ok, Perfect Cell stated that grade 3 trunks was stronger. Let’s look at the numbers. Trunks should be around 3M when we meet him. He wasn’t as battle hardened and experienced as our Goku or Future Gohan. 3M might be a lil generous. For his grade 3 to be higher than 800M his base needs to be at least 11M. Not impossible. He’s a half saiyan and now he’s getting some better training. Cell said you’re FAR stronger than me. Realistically, Grade 3 Trunks was around 900M putting his base at 12M. So far so good still. Goku fought Cell as MSSJ, if we assume this is still the base 50x multiplier Goku’s base needs to be around 16M to fight evenly with Perfect Cell. Now, is it reasonable? I think so. Goku’s trained with Gohan and Piccolo for 3 years. Plus the time chamber. Same as Vegeta. We can say Goku saw greater gains because: Gohan eventually got stronger than him and was able to push him AND mastering and staying ssj should provided a nice boost to his base power. So it might seem that MSSJ is a separate multiplier but it doesn’t have to be. It would make more sense to say MSSJ provides the same 50x but the process of mastering it makes your base 50% higher. Let’s look at Gohan to see if this holds up. After eating the senzu, let’s put Perfect Cell at 900M. Teen Gohan would have to be at least 18M in base power. That’s not far fetched. He was close to 1M on Namek without Goku having trained him or the time chamber. Not hard to imagine Gohan, with his potential getting this strong. Trunks had a similar jump. We can pinpoint it more if we jump ahead. Gohan vanquished SPC with half his strength. If we assume SPC is roughly 1.2B, Gohan coulda been around 1.4B and beat him. Giving us 2.8B ss2 Teen Gohan with a base of 28 million. He coulda been as low as 18M without MSSJ to boost his base. This means without him mastering ssj, even if he went ss2, once Cell broke his arm he woulda been dead. Mastering ssj gave him that little extra to be able to pull it off. Gohan 28M Goku 16M Trunks 12M Vegeta 9.5M-12M Vegeta didn’t use grade 3 because of the speed issues. Him and trunks coulda been even as far we know. These numbers make it all work without adding shyt like rage boost and domination and without contradicting the multipliers and keeping MSSJ as a regular 50x amp. Sorry for the essay lol also see why golden Frieza clappin these boys lol

The truth is that none of the forms except Kaioken are multipliers.

I believe that if the saiyans still had their tails then the ssj grade forms would not exist because the tail would handle balancing the energy flow within a saiyan

This could just be a case of misunderstanding ( I have always viewed the ssj grades 2 and 3 as the same thing as ssj2 and ssj3 mainly because ssj grade 1and ssj grade 4 are the same)