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@@destruxandexploze2552 lol it is absolutely not even close to as fast

@@jdoggsgarage4494 Have you seen the videos of the SMG tuned?

@@destruxandexploze2552 dct requires several orders of magnitude less time to fully complete the shift than smg, smg can physically complete the shift in around 80ms, but the torque reduction required to keep the clutch in one piece is around 2-3x that long. The DCT can physically complete the shift and apply full power in less than 10ms with out damaging anything. Not to mention overall drivability is about 1000x better with dct than smg, tuned or not. I had several different tunes in my smg, none were noticeably faster or better than the standard "euro" firmware.

@@philspaghet because they all feel terrible compared to the s2000 transmission, it's difficult to get one that will shift at 9500 rpm and the gearing doesn't suit the s2000 engine very well

@@Shari_Tejp it can't pass if they do an obd2 emissions test.

@@jdoggsgarage4494I’m Germany they do it here. I mean i can always call my guy to pass it regardless, but i would really like to go oem route if possible. There is a guy on youtube who’s posting shorts lately claiming he uses oem ecu and tcu, but he gives some sketchy vibes and his videos are not looking promising

You can make the DCT shift like SMG if you really want to 🤣 or even if you don't

@@Dan-gerous-Bikes what are you using to control it?

I had to make my own controller with 3 can bus ,Lin bus and built in accelerometer. It's working like factory now. ​@@jdoggsgarage4494

@@Dan-gerous-Bikes I've had mine running almost a year. I've put about 10k miles on it. This video was done on a customers car. 👍

​@@jdoggsgarage4494I know bro. I've been watching. Someone set me the challenge 4 months ago saying it couldn't be done on stock. Original E60 shifter working perfectly too

@@Dan-gerous-Bikes I'm using the stock smg shifter as well, but what are you using to control the dct? if its easier shoot me a message on IG.. same name over there.

s85 uses all s65 dct stuff, no adapter plate needed.

@@Weihrauch88 haha yeah, old BMW problems 🤦

@@usernameisrequired no. It's never about the power handling of the SMG. Is that it's awful to drive

@@jdoggsgarage4494 yeah I bet it does suck after a while what did you do to the dct to make it withstand more power?

@@usernameisrequired you don't really need to do much. With custom firmware it can hold 700ft/lbs. For a standard s85 nothing special needs to be done. My s2000 makes 609hp 500ft/lbs on a stock 335 dct transmission

@@jdoggsgarage4494 oh wow 335 dct?

@@usernameisrequired the internals of all the dct transmissions are the same

they arent too bad, its just expensive because many of the parts are only used for this engine. Rod bearings and the vanos oil pump are the only common things that are beyond any other car. The throttle actuator gears wear out, but those are cheap and easy to change. It really helps if you can do some of this work yourself. It's time consuming (read.. expensive) to have all that done in a shop.

Everyone also calls this engine as BMWs most unreliable engine, and thats coming from those guys who drive 1-2km (around a mile) and then proceed to floor it right after - they forget that they have 10w60 oil as thick as honey in it and then they complain their rod bearings only lasted 10000km, its mostly the owners fault if the car has those issues :)

Maxxecu controlling the engine and transmission

@@jdoggsgarage4494great content man, would you bother to do a proper video brakedown of the build? Can you tell me how much does it cost, just the ecu side of things and wiring harnesses? Without the cost of a dct

No it doesn't hurt anything, but the clutch can only do 1 or 2, then it has to cool down or it will slip. I have since swapped to Dct transmission so I don't have to worry.

Probably easier to message me on Instagram. Same name there. But you'll need the s65 dct flywheel, the driveshaft needs to be lengthened, the maxxecu and a transmission cooler. The factory SMG cooler won't work with the dct. Ideally you'd want to change to an e90 rear diff. The e60 gear is a bit short with the dct.

Check my Instagram - same name - for more videos

shoot me a message in on instagram.. same name there.

MaxxECU to control the engine and transmission

In North Carolina. I can but I'm probably 6-8 months out

@@jdoggsgarage4494can I ask a question I wanna do this to my M5 same bell housing I assume but what Clutch/Fw set up ? And you went standalone for simplicity sake I assume ?

@@lifeofdick4846 use all s65 stuff.. currently there is no way to use a dct with the stock m5 dme

@@jdoggsgarage4494 thanks brother appreciate that !

to be honest no because the technology was allready there m5 is an 04 and m3 from this era is an 07 so they used this car as a test mule

Look me up on Instagram. Same name. Send me a message there

@@jdoggsgarage4494 I marked you and I am writing Thx

The one I'm working on right now is coming in around 9-10k all in. We are swapping to a 3.15 rear as well

I was talking to someone about a similar setup some days ago. Lmk if you need any tuning on it when you get it together

@@jdoggsgarage4494 might have been me haha

Thanks for the heads up after 2 years I hadn't noticed.

@jdoggsgarage4494 have you managed to get a reading on the code?

@@ubiased23 it's on because the maxxecu does not communicate with the stock gauge cluster. That has long since been replaced with an Aim digital display

@@jdoggsgarage4494 nice. Keep up the good work.

The pro is required for the m5. It runs the engine and transmission

Thank you so much for responding🫡🫶🏻 Finallyso many confusions are clear

Look me up on Instagram.. same name. It's easier to message there. I've put over 20k miles on the car. We have worked out all the problems. There are very few people who have done it correctly, 90% who talk aren't qualified to speak on it.

Look me up on Instagram, easier to message there. It's the same name. For e92 with LS swap you can use the maxxecu race/LS kit for this swap

I have another video that shows comparison between SMG and Dct

MaxxECU

@@jdoggsgarage4494 oh so it runs everything, cool. Would it work with AP1’s after being converted to FBW? And did you have to make any modifications to the transmission tunnel?

@@karry8997 yeah it'll work fine in an ap1, converting to drive by wire is pretty simple. You do have to add some clearance to the tunnel but no cutting is required. Maxxecu controls everything

Check out my Instagram. Same name. There are a couple more there

Yes

@@jdoggsgarage4494 what is required to get this job done ? Is it fully functional swap or still needs tweaking ?

​@@Six9builds I'd say it's good to go. There are a couple aspects of the tuning side I want to improve but even if I dont, it's still 1000x better than the SMG was as far as drivability

E90 m3 stuff bolts right up

only e92/e90 m3 s dct can swap to s85 because of bolt places

Thank you so much for the informations Hopefully I am able to do the build this summer and share it on the youtube🤞🏻

@@IAK_M5 no problem :) but you need too much money to swap it. i know one guy from german he can fix all the problems on ecu and tcu on s85 dct swap but it cots 4-5k euro :I also dct e92 gearbox isnot cheap so you''ll need like 10-14k for it . goodluck

@@Mamasheni5858 Yes I know that guy too. I have done all the research. Money ain't the issue if its doable and thats the only way you get to make a CSL m5 10f1.

My suggestion with any experience is have a lot of money to make it possible lol

Hello , I'm managing to start the same process in the upcoming weeks so any new information or did u even start on the swap project. If you have ig let me know what's your username so we can talk there

You can do it either way. This was in full auto mode, so just floor it. We do have a "manual kickdown" activated, so in manual mode you can floor it and then hit downshift, it will go down to the lowest gear instead of one by one.

the m3 of this era (e9x platform) had lower tourque so for merging if you put your foot all the way down and hold the left (downshift) paddle it goes to the lowest possible gear with some space to not over rev e.g wont put you to the very top of 2nd it will put you high mid 3rd like where the peak touruqe is at