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It was labeled by the nursery as a CAS/Costa Rican Guava (Psidium friedrichsthalianum). I will send some photos to some friends that have more expertise with guavas and let you know what they say.

@@TheDiversifiedFarmer I'll be pruning it back soon and will root a bunch of cuttings of various sizes. Probably will even try to graft some onto some 1 year old rootstock I've been growing.

@@TheDiversifiedFarmer have they flowered yet? Curious, did you also get them from fruit and spice park?

You are correct! I wait until they start turning pinkish and all the green is gone now.

Thanks for the kind words. Insider information is that I compost a lot of dead tropicals that don't make it, but I do get some here and there that do survive. Occasionally even get a fruit to sample.

There's always hope, so I keep trying to hand pollinate...

@@dejasonfowler8267 when I was at fruit and spice park in late August/early September 2021, they were ripe and dropping off the trees there. Lots to sample and lots of seeds on the ground.

Yes! These do taste a little different. More floral, but in a good way. If you let them get fully ripe, which is after they turn yellow, then they start to turn a little pink, then they're the sweetest and best tasting.

I would suggest to put the seeds in a small plastic bag with damp vermiculite until they sprout, then transfer them to a small pot to grow.

Thanks G! It's a good one.

Hi Brett! I think mine took nearly 4 months, give or take.

@@EastsideGardening that's pretty good, here even my tiny cherry guavas take at least 5 months to mature !

@@lyonheart84 is that psidium cattleyanum?

no tartness either. Wondering if on the next fruit, if I let it ripen longer, maybe the flavor will develop more.

Hi Carrie. Thanks for stopping by. I'll be checking out some of your videos, too.

@@Lochness19 I sometimes need to resort to removing old leaves manually before some plants will start regrowing and flowering. Especially sone that really love heat; they won't shed and grow unless they're forced to. I think removing the old leaves is a necessary, but sometimes harsh transition the plant needs to go through to have a productive summer.

@@EastsideGardening I do have a fair bit of growth on all my plants, but it depends on the vine. Some vines within an individual plant have new growth on them, others not so much. The shoots that are growing grew about 2-5ft since mid-May. Mainly, it's the lack of serious flower buds that has me a bit frustrated. I did get one little flower bud a month ago on my p. edulis var edulis but the flower bud got aborted, and haven't had any since.

@@Lochness19 I wonder if it's possible that your plant has too much nitrogen available to it. I've had Passiflora edulis var flavicarpa (yellow) that only grew and grew, never flowered after 2-3 years. I gave up on it, not enough room.

@@EastsideGardening I think I'll give them at least another year. They're supposed to bloom after 2 years, but maybe that assumes a warmer climate, that has a longer growing season, or even a year long growing season. Although my plants did grow indoors over the winter, I'd say they're only barely at that size where you'd expect it to start producing. Might be a pruning/insufficient sun issue too, so I'll try and prune and trellis them so as the maximize sun expose next year. Did you start your plants from seeds or from cuttings? I've also found that plants started from cuttings bloom earlier. My passiflora caerulea barely bloomed at all on the first season grown from seed, but then after taking cuttings, those bloomed profusely beginning in late July. And now on the second season, the plants from cuttings bloomed profusely beginning in mid June. My edulis and ligularis, as well as manicata and tripartita were all started from seeds, but I've also taken some cuttings from them that I plan to grow in 2025.

Mine bloomed on the 2nd year. Unfortunately, it was only one vine that made flowers, and it was self sterile (couldn't pollinate itself), so I didn't get any fruit. I haven't discovered a practical way to move a mature Passiflora vine inside and outside of the greenhouse with the seasons, and because it stays inside, the bugs can overwhelm it. I had mealybugs take out my Passiflora edulis before, and lately the spider mites won't leave the Maliformis, Alata, and Laurifolia alone. I think getting them outdoors during the summer would help a lot, if it's feasible.

@@EastsideGardening What I did was wrap the vines around a tomato cage to move them. It can still be a fair bit of work to untangle them though. I was willing to put in the time to do so, but maybe in the future I'll prune them back more so that it's less work to untangle. I haven't had any pests inside other than spidermites, which were only on my p. incarnata and then started to spread onto the adjacent tripartita and ligularis. However, my edulis, ligularis and manicata that were in a separate room had no pests whatsoever. What sort of temperatures were your p. alata experiencing leading up to the blooms? Can maliformis or laurifolia (or ligularis) pollinate alata since they are in the same subgenus? I think caerulea can pollinate edulis, and I've already successfully used caerulea to pollinate incarnata. Caerulea blooms reliably for me, so it's good that it seems to be a viable pollen donor, at least for passiflora stipulata and passiflora passiflora (ex incarnata) subgenus.

@@Lochness19 If I remember correctly, my Alata was blooming in Sept/Oct before. I think it might have been the transition to cooler weather that inspired it to bloom. I thought about trying to grow a Passiflora in a big pot that would stop growing in the fall, I would prune it back to 10 feet or so and encourage it to stay dormant until spring when I could put it outside and let it regrow, flower, and fruit. So far, I haven't discovered a Passiflora that would cooperate with my plan. They tend to get too buggy and diseased in the winter and don't recover well enough in the spring to do much of anything, or they stay healthy and want to become dominant monsters inside the greenhouse. I've seen Passiflora pollination compatibility charts before, but I'm not sure who published it and how accurate it is. I've had not success in cross pollinating any Passiflora, so I'm not able to comment on what works.

@@EastsideGardening What sorts of temperatures are your Alata experiencing (in the greenhouse?) in mid summer, and how cool does it get in Sep/Oct? My summers are not that hot, generally around 22-28C in the day, 11-18C at night. By September it will cool to 15-24C days, 6-12C nights roughly. 30C+ heatwaves are possible in both summer and September, but uncommon. The one flower bud I got on my edulis (var edulis) appeared, and aborted, during a heatwave that saw daytime temps of 28-33C with high humidity. What temperature do you keep your greenhouse in the winter? So far I've kept my plants in the house, which is around 18-21C in the winter, but have considered keeping some plants in my basement cellar in a dormant state where it would be 5-10C. I'm thinking that at cool temperatures like that, the insects would also go dormant and leave the plants alone, it's just a question of whether the plants themselves could also withstand it. I've heard of people keeping edulis var edulis in greenhouses over the winter that get rather cool, but I'm not sure if it would work for flavicarpa (which prefers warmer temps), or ligularis.

@@Lochness19 My greenhouse in the summer/warm season typically has low temps 60-70F range and highs in the 80-95F range. During the cool season, starting in October until May, it's usually in the 50-60F range for the lows and 65-75F for the highs. When the weather is sunny, the temps can go up to the 80-85F range in the cool season.

Haha, yeah. I got lots of comments about that. I just changed the potting mix as the root mass was small. If the roots start filling out the new pot, I'll move it up to a bigger one.

This is one of the few plants I have that I didn't grow from seed, however it is a seedling I bought from Florida about 3 years ago. I'm guessing it was about 3 years old when I bought it, so probably about 6 years old now. It did start flowering a few months after I bought it and flowered pretty much continuously for nearly two years until I forced it to stop by putting it out in the cool weather in April. The pause in flowering didn't last long, as now it's covered in flowers again.

Yes. Rose apple is fairly fast growing. In the right tropical conditions it could be a tall fruiting tree in just a few years.

@@VirginiaFruitGrower my guava grafting success rate is zero. Haha. No worries. Hopefully it makes fruit

@@EastsideGardening hope so

I'm not familiar with Actinidia Rufa, but sounds interesting.

@@burbankcongregate459 I think it's about 5-6 years old.

@@VirginiaFruitGrower yes. it's nice when a common and easy to grow, non-fussy plant can make lots of tasty fruit.

You should check around in your location before planting it, though. This plant can get really invasive in certain tropical climates and create great harm when birds eat the fruits and spread them all over. I know that it's devastating in the big Island of Hawaii. When I was driving up to see Kilauea, I saw mile after mile of strawberry (& lemon) guava that basically took over large sections of the mountain.

I've found that well draining potting mix with extra perlite really helps keep the young seedlings healthier. Also letting the mix dry out little between waterings helps, too.

I think it's likely it would survive inside a non-heated greenhouse in the winter in western WA, especially if it's more mature. I have a friend in West Seattle that keeps his outside, but under the eave of his house and I think it's still fine. I bring mine inside when the weather gets cool if there's fruit on it that I want to ripen. I put them outside when the weather is mild and bring them inside when we get a winter storm where the temperatures will dip below 30 for a sustained period of time. Although some people believe they're cold hardy to 20-25F, I don't risk having them die back if I have the space to squeeze them into during a cold spell. A non-heated greenhouse would stay generally warmer than the outside in the winter and avoid a lot of the harsh cold spikes, and I believe that lemon or strawberry guavas would survive just fine.

They have a few months to go before they're ripe. Some are starting to grow from the flower.

@EastsideGardening great what about Wampee?

@@geriannroth449 Not even close. My wampee's are still babies.

@EastsideGardening ok I'm just being the Eager Beaver 🙂

@@ernestosierrasalvador2095 Si. Es la verdad. 2.5 anos depues semilla.

@@EastsideGardening algunos dicen que a los 8 o 10 años ya empieza a florecer.

@@ernestosierrasalvador2095 Creo que 3-4 anos es mas typica.

Sabes en cuanto tiempo germina la semilla?​@@EastsideGardening

@@ernestosierrasalvador2095 las semillas frescas tome 1-3 semanas para germinar.

@@VirginiaFruitGrower fingers crossed. Does it need a pair for pollination?

@@EastsideGardening mine didn't

@@VirginiaFruitGrower oh nice! 👍

@@LoganShelton-rh3lp I meant to say we don't get freezes in April when I brought them out

@@EastsideGardening oh ok. Man that would be nice though!

@@LoganShelton-rh3lp this winter was pretty mild. We had a really cold week in early January, but after that basically didn't get any real freezes, maybe a few hours of 31-32F in the early AM a few times. I put my citrus trees outside in mid January and they've been outside since.

@@Myth1n My goodness. Age is creeping up on me.

@@EastsideGardening haha no worries, weve all had little brainfarts like that. We know you know the difference lol

Thanks! I never tried pawpaw before, so hoping that happens soon. I never tasted Blue Crown passion fruit before. I've heard mixed reports on the the pulp flavor, and am curious to experience it first hand.

What Is that pink flowered bush at about 1:58-2:00?

@@LoganShelton-rh3lp it's some ornamental bush we got 15 years ago from a local nursery. I cannot recall the name. It doesn't make fruit, though.

Survival training. Some sink, others swim.

I was watching some videos about people growing bananas and other tropicals inside geothermal heated greenhouses in Iceland The gardener there was mentioning how once the spring comes and the days stretch to nearly round the clock, the plants inside grow twice as fast as normal, and flower profusely to catch up.

That's definitely a good guess. Very possible a cutting from an EBT just 'magically appeared' in Olympia Washington one day and became a 'new' named cultivar. I found an interesting discussion on the matter: www.ourfigs.com/forum/figs-home/990776-olympian-is-no-joke

@@VirginiaFruitGrower yeah. Probably need to bug treat it more regularly.

@@lyonheart84 need to nurse it back to health this summer. Last year it had hundreds of flowers.

@@LoganShelton-rh3lp Burnt Ridge is one of the best local nurseries. I usually do a big order from them every spring.

@@VirginiaFruitGrower last year was only 5 flowers. Improving.

I have this one potted in a mix of 85% peat and 15% perlite. Seems to be fine.

@@samMTL514 Issai is a self fruitful female that does not pollinate anything, including the Ananasnaya or even itself. Some of the ovaries swell up into fruit without being pollinated. However I believe that having a flowering male close by will increase fruit production probably because some of the flowers are actually getting pollinated by the male. I believe the Issai is considered parthenocarpic in botanical terms.

@@EastsideGardening thanks for the clarification