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This is literally when you try to play the game but the game just says you're the one getting played. (Pls remove floorhugging)

watched this video before i got the game and thought floor hugging and cc would be busted but now i think its great skill expression, its saves you from a lot of combos that you otherwise would be helpless to, and it can still be countered with grabs or a quick second attack, or propper spacing

The thing is whether intentional or not melee actually had a good balance to crouch cancelling by making it not work after a certain percent. The mechanic is fine when it’s an option vs an all encompassing solution. Also getting punished for a jab when your opponent is at 200% does not feel great.

low key a self report ngl.

I've never opened my jaw so wide while watching a video that it actually hurts afterwards... that poor loxodont as the last example.

How early can you do it? Will you floorhug automatically if you were already holding down when you got hit but not crouching?

they added CC and FH because a lot of characters would have infinites like doing the first part of lox F-tilt then turn around and do it again

I don't see this as a problem.

Ya I think that crouch cancelling and this other nonsense is just so stupid, I would love to play this game but floor hugging is just stupid.

Dude I’m bronze and I feel like this game is early stages of fortnite. Right now people haven’t mastered the mechanics, but soon I feel like it will be similar to build wars. Just a bunch of wave dashing, floor hugging, sweaty tryhards that makes the game just to much. Like I’d like to believe I’m better than bronze but everybody I’m going against are already learning these mechanics. Soon, very soon. The game is going to be unplayable at a casual level because it lies to heavily on movement mechanics. I really don’t want to be mashing jump, shield, analog stick multiple times a sec just to get an opening at bronze level. Also lvl 9 cpus are trash. I can already 3 stock a lvl 9, but have a losing record in bronze. A lot of things ain’t right. But I’ve only had one sit down session with it. So let’s see where it goes

This was an incredibly succinct video. I deliberately avoided watching any videos about Rivals 2 strategies because I wanted to get a vanilla feel for the game so I could compare with context. I have been trying to figure out exactly why it seemed like others were just not getting lambasted as hard as I was, and this is absolutely 90% of the reason. Going back in for a couple matches after this, I can see where this is getting me, which has been helpful. Idk how much I'll enjoy this game with this mechanic, but I'm now at least aware of it.

This video is a really bad take. Floorhuging is percent dependent and also weight dependent. You only going to care about it for the initial portion of the way beside that Amsa teching from a mechanic that cannot be buffered is really hard most of your opponents are not going to tech every hit you do. Besides that when someone Floor tech your aerial you gain an inmense amount of frame advantage were you can just follow the tech. That is the same reason that Amsah tech is not broken. Melee has this mechanic and is sincerely more powerfull there and it doesnt represent an issue. Is just a learning curve that makes the game more interesting.

As a competitive smash player with many years of experience and grinding under my belt, THANK YOU for this video. My friend and I have so many hours in this game already and we both could tell off the rip something felt off. So many instances of "how did you get out of that combo at that %?" "how did you punish that?!". Thank you for clarifying! haha. Hope the devs fix this soon because this game is sweet.

I think we're being babies by complaining for CC and floorhugging. Melee players have been developing meta and counterplay for 20 years and have no problem with an even more powerful version of those techs. Particularly in this game CC is just fine and already has counterplay, floorhugging is something i could see becoming a problem in the future, but at the same time I still have to see someone use it, like, ever💀, so let's just wait and see how the meta develops and stop dooming on a game that JUST came out.

Stop telling lies on the internet the ROA 2 discord hates me now

I don't know if they fixed it already, but I hear that the developers are very receptive to criticism, so I think floor hugging will be fixed in the future.

nice clickbait, in your example with krag the zetter could have just shield and punish later

What I dislike is that shields are too good at air attacks

Ngl it wouod be best if crouch canceling/floor hugging was straight up removed…. it would be strictly better.

And I was wondering why nobody parried in this game, this is *so much better* than that in every way possible, it really belittles every other defensive option out there

SDI is gay

mmm! reversal central! it's the same thing in melee tbh

@scrubquotes

man im so old and jaded by the fact ive done this for 15 years that I cant see your point. even if it wasn't there you'd still get farmed. you would go to the next thing that (you think)keeps you from winning. most players who played smash for two decades instantly know how to beat CC the moment they see you do it.

Crouch cancel should be removed, but floor hugging needs to be removed.

Get good

almost af is it was intended to whiff punish with grab. Also you showed a shield grab when you wanted to demonstrate a floorhug grab punish. That was probably a mistake. also comparing it to street fighter is not a good example imo because it is not intended to combo off regular throws there and the game has slower movement and no platforms. There are much more floorhug safe moves when your opponent is on a platform. opinion not really thought out imo.

I do not understand! Why can't I just Falcon punch my opponents in neutral? Damn you developers of the game, I want to use my moves the way I want!

You know what feels bad? Kragg spamming jab jab ftilt the whole game. I'm in favor of anything that makes kragg worse

Came back to recomment… stay strong brother, they’re coming after you now. Even Leffen lol. Tbh, I like my fighting games where if you get hit, you take your friggin’ lumps. Too many fighting games have “stop hitting me” mechanics that shut down offense, promote camping/turtling, and make me genuinely question why their supporters are playing fighting games at all. The “melee has it” argument doesn’t hold water either, as that game was never designed for competitive play. Just because people are used to something doesn’t mean it’s a good mechanic. Look at it this way: Fighting games have to prioritize offense. The game ends when one player is hit enough times. Prioritizing defense accomplishes nothing, since defense delays that inevitable end.

Jokes on you I suck at this game too much to care about this as is 😎

ok but sliding across the entire stage is kinda funny looking

They say Loxodont is still tech rolling across the entire fire capital to this day. The future is saved...

Gotta abuse this until its patched

This was actually amazing editing, can't even imagine how long it took to get all of those clips

So I can't punish anything? Just get punished for punishing my opponent?........ Yeah they need to remove that bulshit or I'm uninstalling the game

Omg so I was not tripping when I was like “your at 60 and I just hit you with a high knock back move. Why did you go nowhere and hit me?????”

@scrubquotes

I get that it’s worse for floor hugging but isn’t Street Fighters delayed tech also a “block while throwing” move like you said?

Thanks for this notice, I fought my first opponent in ranked doing this and was instantly deflated to lose on my offense for 10 minutes like I'm only 890 man please!!

I agree but I would also like to state that if Aether Studios can find a way to successfully remove it, or nerf it severely, I think the game would hands down best the best plat fighter.

this is likely why most combo starters send directly upward, it would cancel out the little SSDI teleport distance

I am by no means a high level fighting game player, but I feel any time you can be punished FOR HITTING YOUR OPPONENT, there is a major gameplay issue.

Had a lot more fun going back to Rivals 1 honestly lol

Its so crazy how all my worries and complaints about Rivals 2 early on were proven right. Melee players like mango hate Floorhugging and thinks shields are too strong and good which i thought shields would be an issue. taking inspiration from the most flawed platfighters might have been a bad move. If anything Rivals 2 made me appreciate Ultimate so much more. Platfighters are harder to make than they look and even those that make one good game don't really know how to make a successful fun one at this point. This genre is doomed to always live in the shadow of its inspiration.

Skill issue unironically

“I would also think floorhugging is broken if I didn’t have thousands of hours in this game” lollll