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That huge flood just wiped out all of them at once. If it'd only been a little a time, it might have been different, but the repair costs were just so huge, they didn't want to do it. Same for surrounding states, really.

Thanks for the comment, and the info on Kaplan. I added a correction to the description.

Thanks for the comment, and the info on Kaplan. I added a note to the description. Is it that huge turbine in the photo I found?

Thanks! My first superthanks! I really appreciate it.

@@Industrial_Revolution I frequently ride the exact trail you visited. My brother an I biked from Cleveland to Zoar Village and back over a long weekend. We camped at Canal Fulton where there is a working canal boat to visit. The entire canal rout is one old industrial town after another it’s entire length. Your explanation of the canal is spot on. The canal couldn’t compete with the rail roads nor could they survive the floods. One piece of trivia, President Garfield as a boy worked on that canal. He once fell off a boat into the canal while on night watch. He nearly drowned and contracted an infection from the dirty water.

Ohio canals have been really hard on future presidents. The Whitewater Tunnel, down by Cincinnati, partially collapsed during construction and almost killed William Henry Harrison while he was riding his horse over the top of it.

Thanks! Glad you liked it.

But was it a really, REALLY BIG boat. You know, with room for 2 of every kind of animal? Or was it more like a canal boat that would actually fit in the locks?

@@Industrial_Revolution i’m pretty sure it was just a canoe if I remember, right🤭😝🤘👍

OK, so a couple humans, a couple dogs, and it will fit easily into the lock. Sounds like a pretty good boat.

That was on the Miami & Erie Canal. I wasn't around in 1913, but every description I've heard said that the flooding was state-wide, pretty much destroying the entire canal network. I just looked at the cause and it looks like it was frozen ground, so no absorption, plus snow on the ground to melt, and up to 8" of rain throughout the entire region, not just Ohio. One place said 13 states were hit.

Oh, definitely, and a lot of canals are reopening. In England, the canal network is pretty active with recreational and houseboats. In New York, the Erie Canal (although not the original route) is open. The Trent-Severn Canal in Ontario is hugely popular with recreational boaters. Where they reopen canals, restaurants, B&B's, coffee shops, and lots of other businesses sprout up along the canal for the boaters.

Great question. The main issue is cost vs cargo load. A horse-drawn wagon on unimproved dirt road can carry about a ton, assuming no big hills. On well-built roads of the time, a horse could carry more, but on a canal, a single horse or mule might be able to carry 50 tons. Once dug, you'd need to fix leaks, dredge some areas (check out my canal water management video) occasionally repair locks, aqueducts, etc, but on roads, you'd be constantly patching potholes, and still fixing bridges, etc. Corduroy roads improved things over dirt, but no one wanted to do stone roads outside the cities.

It's on the Ohio and Erie Canal. The Erie Canal is over in New York.

You've got a weird dam there in Dover. That's the one people sometimes kayak through, isn't it?

When is the festival?

This is the stuff that's sometimes really hard to find, or even gets lost forever. If you haven't already, get copies of some of that to historical societies.

Thanks! I'll be going back once the overgrowth dies down late fall/winter. Not sure how much more I'll find. Someone else in the comments said there wasn't much more to find. From the old maps, though, I'm thinking I might be able to at least find the millrace. There's legal issues with metal detecting and/or digging at a historic site. Over at the Haven Hill site from a couple weeks ago, it took me more than a year to get the state historian and state archaeologist to sign off on a small hole to fix a safety issue. I've been thinking about getting a small drone. There are some good, very small ones coming out that I could carry miles off into the woods. Since there are ads on UA-cam, and they pay me a tiny amount of money (think tenths of a cent per view), I'd have to have a FAA drone pilot license, as well. I do have a 10' long pole I can put my camera onto. I've used it a few times. I'll probably take it down into the gorge with me when the undergrowth is gone.

Thanks! I just found it on Google Maps. The floating towpath is only at the south end? Do you know why it's there? Just looking at the map, it doesn't look like it'd have been hard to follow the shore all the way (although it may have been wetlands back then). I'd guess someone owned the property there and had a lot of political power and didn't want to sell?

There's must have been a protocol for the dance between opposing mule teams to pass each other as well as the barges dropping their tow lines before the surface - very interesting thanks!

@@bradleyd.thornton5963 Yep. Fortunately, the towpaths are wide enough that they can just stand aside. Unfortunately, although there are a few places with mule-drawn canal boats, as far as I know, all of them operate only a single boat, so we don't get to see them meeting

@@bradleyd.thornton5963 the canal crews were a rowdy bunch and fistfights were very common, often over the right away and access to the locks.

When I lived in the Akron area I found out that the flow from Summit Lake is controlled by an international treaty since flow North goes to the Great Lakes and flow to the South goes to the Ohio River and the Mississippi basin.

One of the narrowboats? Some of the chains of locks, aqueducts (including a HUGE one) and tunnels there are really impressive. We had some aqueducts here in the states, but only a tiny handful of canal tunnels, I'm afraid.

Well, you're really close, actually. That's almost what James Watt did. If you did a water jacket on the main cylinder, it'd start to condense as soon as you put the steam into it, so you'd lose a lot of efficiency. Watt added a second, water-cooled cylinder, and a valve between them. When the piston reaches the top, the valve opens to the cold cylinder, the steam immediately goes to that one, with a jet of water in the cold cylinder, condensing there, instead of the hot one. Not only let the engine run pretty much forever, but also hugely improved efficiency.

I definitely agree with the water and wind power starting the Industrial Revolution, although I know a lot of people don't. I have some videos of that, and I'm working on more. Great Brittan had quite a few giant, water-powered factories, mills, etc. There were some big ones on the east coast of the US, but just small stuff around the mid-west, where I live. Haven't found a big one that's still intact that will also let me film yet, but I'm hoping to this winter.

Just went and rewatched it again. Looks like one "raintree" did slip through. I thought i got a text correction on the screen for that, but looks like it's not there. Hopefully I don't give the "disprespectful american" feel in my videos. When it comes to steam, there were generations of steam power (I'm thinking Newcomen and Trevithick, for example) that never even made it to the states. One channel goal is to start getting enough revenue from it to actually go see and film some of the stuff there that we never got here. Some of the canals, and the really old mine water pumping stuff are really impressive, too.

The Rocket replica is inside at Henry Ford Museum. The Edison steam locomotive that passed me pulling a passenger train is just outside in Greenfield Village. Both are Dearborn, MI, USA.

Stevenson's "Rocket" is a legend. I dunno about nowadays, but it was in several of my textbooks covering technology and history 🚀

@@bradleyd.thornton5963 My history books, too. In fact, I'm pretty sure those same books incorrectly called it the first steam locomotive.

I really want to find one of the giant waterwheel pumps somewhere. I know some were used down in the mines around Cornwall.

Thanks! Is the Crapo farm another little place in the country, like Haven Hill? I've been up to Applewood a couple times, but never looked into the Crapo farm.

I haven't, but I think there was some other comment about someone fishing around here.

:) They were doing something up around those mounds at the top of the gorge when I was there. No idea what.

On of the old Russia-intended ones? Is it close-by?

This might be good option if you run into the seemingly permanent construction on that piece of I-75.

And some vehicles are a bit heavier today than they were a hundred years ago.

Glad you liked it. There's a LOT of great stuff in Ohio, and I say that even as someone who lives in Michigan.

@Industrial_Revolution Ooooo. From "that state up north." 🤔😅 Only the northern approaches to the bridge are in Ohio territory, technically. Both West Virginia and Kentucky claim the "high water mark" of the river. Kentucky did the same to Indiana and Illinois. Kentucky historians 'howled' several years ago when Ohio historians 'rescued' the Petroglyph Rock from the north bank. Historians, again, asserted that the rock was in Kentucky proper.

I saw that about being Kentucky to the northern waterline. Most borders run down the middle of rivers. Any idea why it ended up where it did?

@@Industrial_Revolution better politicians? I think it was because Kentucky came into the Union earlier than Ohio? West Virginia used Virginia's claim as theirs?

That's what I suspected. Ohio's politicians did manage to win the Toledo War.

Glad you liked it. That canal is a piece of the Miami and Erie Canal, in Providence Metropark, just west of Toledo. It's one of the few places where you can take a mule-drawn canal boat through a restored 19th century lock.

Thanks. Glad you liked it. People really don't give the midwest enough credit, sometimes. there's a lot of great stuff here.

Yep. Ohio and Erie canal just downstream a few miles. All the mills just upstream. I have videos coming out right in this area.

You know, there's actually been a lot of discussion on this. There are some who seem in a position to know who swear the drivers were cast wide and tires put on to fit those new drivers. Others are absolutely sure that the drivers weren't changed, but the wider tires were put on. I haven't been able to verify it yet, but I suspect both may have happened. Since these were actually in production when the order was canceled, there's a good chance that not all the drivers had been cast yet. Possibly, where the drivers weren't already cast, new ones were cast but if the drivers were already cast, new, wider tires may have just been fitted on the narrower drivers. As I said, this is just a suspicion at this point, not anything I've been able to verify. Verification would likely be in the form of finding one with wide-cast wheels and no overhang on the inside, indicating a recast wheel, AND one with a 1 3/4 overhang on the inside, indicating the wheels were not recast for that one.

This is easy if you are next to it just reach around the driver and you can feel how far the tire extends beyond the driving wheel. That wheel center is the original one, not a replacement as that wouldn't have needed the wide tire.

Yep, unfortunately, I don't personally have one close at hand (about 500 miles to the nearest one, I think). Since there's suspicion that they are set up both ways, I'm leaning toward asking viewers to poke their cameras around the back of the drivers and post video. If we get enough, that'd go a long ways toward answering the question of 1) at least some drivers were definitely replaced or 2) at least some tires were replaced to original drivers or 3) definitely some drivers were replaced and some just replaced tires. Unfortunately, August was the slow time for youtube views for everyone, so a bad time to ask, and now vacation season is ending. Kind of leaning toward asking in the spring, as museums are opening back up and people are starting to travel again.

There’s some weird, clipped-word mumbling by some unseen people while you’re looking at the generator/water supply/electrical supply bit. I’m hoping that’s the kind of thing you’re looking to leave out next time as it is as irritating as sitting in a dusting of potassium permanganate while in a state of undress…. And that, I promise you, is about the level a tolerant person will be angered. Very interesting though, like the rest I c your output.

OK, so I I know this will seem weird, but would you believe I've never sat in a dusting of potassium permanganate while in a state of undress? The echos in the tank room are just weird, at best. One person told me they heard someone saying "Where are my sheep? I can't find my sheep." over and over. Several people are convinced the room is haunted, although I've probably spent more (legal) time in there than anyone else since the Ford's moved out, and I have yet to run into any ghosts (or sheep).

Yep, it's still there.

Between the Friends group cleaning up and restoring the historic features and the DNR staff clearing a lot of brush and invasives, it's definitely looking better, and still improving, too.

Thanks for the comments. I appreciate it. If you're in the area this weekend, I think they're running the sawmill and the Tom Thumb and the power plant, among other things. I don't know about the Kankakee stuff. Looking at a map, it looks like either irrigation or drainage channels. I know NW Ohio has a lot of channels that look like that from draining the Great Black Swamp.

@@Industrial_Revolution I caught you saying the mill would be open this weekend. It’d be great if I had the time! The Kankakee has been on my mind lately: reading a book on its history, and not being able to get much for accurate details on how they accomplished so much. It’s even said that most was done via local landowners. Just strange, as it looks entirely engineered by pros, as well as much of the grid radiating from it.

Check out google maps between Toledo and Cedar Pointe in Ohio. I've only looked superficially, but it looks pretty similar, and I know the Ohio ones were dug for drainage. The way that was drained might give you enough additional details to fill in the holes it sounds like you're hitting in Indiana. It's actually a surprisingly common problem. When these things were being done, everyone knew about them, so no one bothered documented them, then those people died off and now it's a bit of a mystery. That happens all the time, unfortunately.

@@Industrial_Revolution I will, thanks! It's that lack of records, along with what I see in the earth, that creates the mystery. For instance, there seems to be a man who proposed a canal system--including the Kankakee--to the US Congress, to go from Lake Erie to Lake Michigan. It is said it never materialized (i.e. gained Federal funding), yet the story runs cold after his Congressional appeal, and there are remnants of what looks like a filled-in channel extending from the northeast end of the Kankakee furthest northeast point (approximately - N 41, 39'20.16" x W 86 18'10.08") to just shy of the St. Joseph river's dam at (approximately N 41 40'37.92" x W 86 14'42.72), thus bringing the water level up to feed the channel. All this said as a speculation that someone may have attempted (or succeeded in) connecting the two in that approximate area. Just an observation. The Kankakee isn't a main focus of mine, but there are more historical mysteries than historical facts, so everything always has a tint of "I wonder" about it. Such as how it is said that pieces of the Administration Building's roof from the Chicago Columbia Exposition were used to create bridges on the Kankakee. I'm not 100% how that worked, and would like to see it, but I don't think those exist anymore either. I learn excellent things here, so thanks again! This is a very valuable educational resource.

Have you tried contacting the Canal Society of Indiana? indcanal.org/ The mystery definitely draws you in, doesn't it? That's what happened with my Tinkers Creek Gorge video. All you really need is just one or two facts to get you started down the right path, then the whole story might open up right in front of you. Most World's Fair buildings were, and are, designed as temporary, so I can see the roof trusses having been reused. If they designed them to be reused as bridge trusses later, I could see how that would work well.

I've hiked up the creek a few times. It's a great hike on a hot summer day, and is never crowded. Some time ago, I also went through the tunnel, but it's illegal now, after too many serious accidents.

Neither the park historian nor the local historical society knew what was there, other than part of a dam. If it was well-known among a group of local residents, that really shows why it's so important to document the oral histories and get them not only in writing, but somewhere indexed and searchable, as well (like on-line).

There could be some good stuff there, but not sure what the rules are in the park. If it's allowed, and you do it, be sure to let the park historians know anything you find. It'll help tell the story of this place.

Glad you liked it!

Glad you enjoyed it. I'm looking forward to watching this removal project evolve.

I haven't been there yet, but need to.

Half of archaeology is finding bits and pieces, combining it with your experience and education, then trying to verify it with historical records (like finding maps and photos).

Tinkers were (and are) tin workers. Never really thought about it, but what would a tinker bell do/be?

It's right off I-94, between Detroit and Chicago, too. Really easy to get to. That's a huge part of any museum is making sure the kids are engaged. It's not always an easy thing. I know I've done some tours where you're guiding hard-core historians AND 6-year old kids, and have to keep both interested and excited to be there. Not an easy task, sometimes.

They've got some of just about everything steam-powered there.

They do. Should have more running next weekend, too. Now you have a place to stop next time you're driving through.