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Prof. Witold Rybczynski on Why Ornament Matters
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Course 23-3-03 / Number of Credits: 2.0 LUs / HSW Topic(s): Project Development & Documentation
Course Presenter: Prof. Witold Rybczynski (U Penn)
Course Commentators: Matthew McNicholas and Daniel Morales
While writing his book The Story of Architecture (Yale University press, 2023) Prof. Witold Rybczynski recalled that ornament has always had a central role in architecture, whether in the hieroglyphics that decorate the columns of ancient Egyptian temples, or the bas-reliefs over the entrance to Thirty Rock in Rockefeller Center in new York. He found that ornament plays several different functions in a building: Ornamental patterns can modulate blank surfaces and create visual interest; without its gold-ground mosaics, St. Marks Basilica in Venice would be just a big barn.
Trompe-l’oeil: ornament can mimic foliage, lacework, and drapery, which happens in column capitals, medieval linenfold paneling, rope moldings, and wrought ironwork. Ornament can be used to provide actual meaning, sometimes as decorative lettering, sometimes as representational statues and bas-reliefs. The eagle above the central pavilion of the Federal Reserve building in Washington, DC, for example, indicates that this is a government building. Ornament in the form of murals, frescoes, and decorative carvings, introduces a different artistic sensibility into a building: when we visit the Villa Barbaro outside Vicenza, for example, we experience Palladio and Veronese.
Not least, ornamental details are something to look at when you get close to the building-bolt heads, gaskets, and caulking are just not that interesting. These different functions often overlap, and ornament can fulfill one or more functions at a time. Though not a prescriptive lecture, Prof. Rybczynski’s talk suggests that ornament is not simply a frill, but that it rather adds important dimensions to a building. The second part of the session will consist of a panel which further bridges the contemporary understanding of ornament with the its rich, utilitarian past-and inspirational future.
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КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @verticalmatt
    @verticalmatt 2 місяці тому

    Melissa is the best moderator so far

  • @verticalmatt
    @verticalmatt 2 місяці тому

    Excelent Prof Salingaros! Thank you so much for the notes *you have to pause the video to take it all in) . That lion is very funny too

  • @sail2temporary
    @sail2temporary 2 місяці тому

    Great video. Classical and traditional architecture really uplifts cites and neighborhoods. I feel great pain whenever older structures are demolished and replaced with really bland or downright ugly ones.

  • @anthonymatthews3698
    @anthonymatthews3698 2 місяці тому

    Loved the book.

  • @Cacacos
    @Cacacos 3 місяці тому

    nice content

  • @TL735
    @TL735 4 місяці тому

    I really liked this video. Unfortunately, my city (Veszprém, Hungary) also suffers from the remnants of socialist architecture. Half of the city center, which originally consisted of 2-3 storey baroque buildings, is now occupied by concrete monsters. It struck me that even if there is no money for a complete renovation, an art deco "lattice stitching" could greatly improve the appearance of such buildings. What do you think about such transformations?

  • @verticalmatt
    @verticalmatt 5 місяців тому

    Fantastic!

  • @verticalmatt
    @verticalmatt 6 місяців тому

    Braviiiiiisimo!!!!

  • @ericchristen2623
    @ericchristen2623 7 місяців тому

    Authenticity? Ha ha. Before we can talk about anything we must become civilised and we are a long long way from that. We are basically infants with knives. For the first step to civilisation everyone must have free food, housing, medicine and ethically founded education. The elderly must be treated with absolute care, respect and tenderness. That is the first step. The stupid question of how it may be financed is answered thus: divert all funds used for space adventures and military domination. More than enough.😊

  • @sonjak8265
    @sonjak8265 10 місяців тому

    As of November 2017, the federal government directly employed 364,000 people in the D.C. area. About 54 percent of those jobs were in the District itself.

  • @futon2345
    @futon2345 10 місяців тому

    Too Eurocentric

  • @fornesrafael
    @fornesrafael 11 місяців тому

    Genial didactically enlightening… disgusting and frustrating when Leo was abruptly interrupted by the moderator; precisely when Leo started to denounce the woke paranoia scam of climate change so called ’science’

  • @estateestate5486
    @estateestate5486 Рік тому

    what is the book Mr. Buras mentions at around 46 min mark?

    • @verticalmatt
      @verticalmatt 3 місяці тому

      His own the art of classic planning

  • @lourias
    @lourias Рік тому

    First 20 minutes is the show stopper!

  • @lourias
    @lourias Рік тому

    Have you noticed that many cars today appear to be frowning in anger and in sadness?

    • @verticalmatt
      @verticalmatt 6 місяців тому

      they have noticed, look for TAG 2021 Ann Sussman says cars became all angy some 20 years ago. Before that some cars were not angry, like the vk beetle.

  • @kfh123
    @kfh123 Рік тому

    I really like the Treese residence in Koenigstein made in a Schinkel style. Kudos. Beautiful

  • @dimitristsekeris1821
    @dimitristsekeris1821 Рік тому

    Sussman is not just jumping to conclusions. She is being offensive. She is trying to suggest that autistic people are cognitively and socially compromised for the sake of making an argument about classical architecture.

  • @andrewlandry2447
    @andrewlandry2447 Рік тому

    It's ineffably delightful to listen to Leon's discourse! His words cut through with candor and intrepidity, and yet, he remains affable and courteous. Such a strong voice.

  • @wyattmcgee1
    @wyattmcgee1 Рік тому

    I thought the giant pyramid was supposed to be a history museum?

  • @francoisleyrat8659
    @francoisleyrat8659 Рік тому

    Many Paris formal projects predate Haussmann, un particular the rue de Rivali which was started under Napoléon. And their are many pre revolution landmarks, especially squares (Vendôme, Concorde). However what Haussmann did is creating a new system of avenues at city level, slashing through already built up neighbourhod. Also keep in mind that Haussmann"s intervention was meant to price the working class pit of the city centre!

  • @MrYishaiShields
    @MrYishaiShields Рік тому

    1:36-1:39 is Andres saying it on one foot

  • @corunum71
    @corunum71 Рік тому

    wonderful!

  • @cw4091
    @cw4091 2 роки тому

    "Spirit helpers" were called "muses" by the Greeks and Saint Nektarios referred to them in his early 20th century writings on education as well but he really meant "the Holy Spirit," I think. It is quite a feat to open architecture to the spiritual world. I do not disagree that architecture is a manifestation of the philosophical and theological.

  • @cw4091
    @cw4091 2 роки тому

    Architecture cannot be separated from philosophy. Postmodern philosophy has deeply affected our lack of architectural instruction, even in classical education. We tend to focus on "the truth and the good" but can forget about "the beautiful." Teaching my students the orders was important to me as a teacher. Each one of my children can tell the difference between at least doric and corinthian just with a glance. You have to believe in absolutes in order to make the statement, "This is beautiful. That is not beautiful." Moral relativism doesn't allow for that.

  • @emil.adamec
    @emil.adamec 2 роки тому

    The best quote of the day: "Those who don't know their past have no future"

  • @goncalodias6402
    @goncalodias6402 2 роки тому

    Andres is proposing a deserved and extremely necessary revolution of thought in classicism. We need to move from just using the orders according to renaissance treatises, we need to learn how to MANIPULATE the orders and CREATE new orders according to the new possibilities of material, wich we learned, thanks to Andres Heterodoxia, all of the great classicist were already doing that right under the classical purists and educators noses! We refused to consider that classical, we ignored it. What Leon Krier is doing with Le Corbusier is actually what every classicist should be doing, but we should be both modern in our parti and classical in our ompositions and detailing. The modernists have now adopted traditional urbanism wich was its biggets flaw and it turns out that even a ridiculous glass twisting and turning structure can be pretty acceptable by placing it on a dense, tight urban envoirnment and give it some color. But people still prefer classical buildings, we are just ignoring the people and not corresponding to their needs, and as well as beauty, people need something to aspire to, something to inspire them about the future and classicism now is just boring mansions and fake temples... We should be teaching students to draw freely like the contemporary modernists, a kind of expressive classicism or free classicism, because the classicist system always helps to give clarity to a project, and we would be much more well received than just a modernist building without any grounding, visual or historical. Why arent international competitions for public or affordable housing FLOODED with classical proposals? why arent we proposing affordable housing for developing countries in their own traditional style, that people in those contries can relate to? the modernists cant do that. We should be on every competition for new town developments and great civic buildings and actually presenting new stuff, new, inovative designs. Leon Krier is the only one doing that, but the man is almost eighty, everybody should be publishing and competing for big projects everywhere, spreading the message. Why are we letting the modernists claim our best new traditional architects? why doesnt Calatrava admit that he is a modern gothic? because we are still making conservative spires in college campuses, they dont want to be associated with backwardness. We should be planning cities in Mars! did you know that scientists discovered that the best material to build there is stone, the red stone from mars? Thats Egipt! And it can all be constructed by robots so its ready when the firts human gets there, thats what we should be doing. We should be using virtual reality to show people how a project feels to be in, to walk by before its built, so that people can understand how much more enjoyable a classical streetscape is! We are not reaching out for the people, they deserve to choose what they want, and we know that they want classicism, we just have to offer it to them in a way that is to good form them to refuse, we cannot be acused anymore of being backwards, we can do everything they can do, only better. Andre has been probably the most exciting lecturer in the whole classical architecture field. We just need to start producing work, drawing and publishing and dreaming, Western culture needs a dream, an ideal, a horizon to reach, to pursue and Vitruvius' principles fit in and encompass precisely that future that we need to imagine. Thanks to Andres for this passionate wake up call that every young architect should see and listen to and cant wait for the next lecture wich will be about actual projects. I hope i dint sound very pretentious.

    • @GetTherapyBirmingham
      @GetTherapyBirmingham 2 роки тому

      We have an article about Krier and Jung here arguing the same premise. gettherapybirmingham.com/architecture-of-archetypes/ Also our podcast has a Duany interview.

    • @goncalodias6402
      @goncalodias6402 2 роки тому

      @@GetTherapyBirmingham great video. Informative and relaxing.

    • @andrewlandry2447
      @andrewlandry2447 Рік тому

      A very passionate and challenging talk here from Andres. His assertion that we have granted certain ground to the modernists by allowing them to gain ownership of certain architectural works that have clear classical language and very precise mathematical and proportional compositions is astute. I was quite literally thinking along this exact line of thought the other day while examining the work of Gaudi, who is always included within the modernist cannon and championed as part of their “league of extraordinary gentleman”, which I always found confusing. I remember my first year in architecture school when covering Gaudi, Wright, Corbusier, even Louis Sullivan…not even a nod was given to acknowledge the very evident classical proclivities of their work. They were always just pigeonholed as modernists, or at least early modernists, which; in my opinion, is not a fair characterization.

  • @goncalodias6402
    @goncalodias6402 2 роки тому

    Love Andres passion, i think he is right. The classical language is able to inovate as much as the modernists do. Clacissists should stop to recreate archetypes of buildings that already exist but try to answer the problems of the contemporary world. Edit. Can't believe that Andres is 72

  • @stancarmen3369
    @stancarmen3369 2 роки тому

    It got a bit heated at times but I really loved the frankness and passion of this discussion. Loads of interesting points were made, and I really hope we get that sequel! Thanks!

  • @DB-su5qp
    @DB-su5qp 2 роки тому

    I was inspired by Mr Kriers lecture many years ago at University. There was hope for traditional design.

  • @shantyclips6358
    @shantyclips6358 2 роки тому

    Ihr seid Pioniere der kommenden Ära! 😊 Man wird noch viel von euch hören!

    • @guzy1971
      @guzy1971 4 місяці тому

      Ich freue mich darauf ❤

  • @verticalmatt
    @verticalmatt 2 роки тому

    22:00 seasteading as "new" protected tribe , example of human machine rule . e.g. no cars, but connected to the world grid. like wrathofgnon's "offgrid but in the city"

  • @marcoaslan
    @marcoaslan 3 роки тому

    I enjoyed this until the music came up half way through the presentation and Ann’s voice got muted