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To disassemble, sure.

Yeah I mean, I get that - I've had a few wood ones that I've gotten for free with outboards and usually just give them away in the end. I think it's because they're always cheaper looking and mismatched to all the other stands I have. The other issue is that they typically end up being wider/bulkier than ones like this, so they take up more space on the wall when I have alot of motors to stack.

@jake16542 no, this is single line which was original to the engine. For some reason, OMC started using fuel pumps on the "Fat Fifty" motors first. For the smaller motors, they ditched the pressure tanks in the late 50s? My 1959 Evinrude Golden Jubilee is still dual line.

@ I also heard that around the time they switched from brass to stainless steel internals. That’s why on older motors like mine and yours I believe, you run a 24:1. That is interesting I love outboards

@@jake16542 - they switched over to needle roller bearings on the connecting rods. The older motors actually use a 16:1 mix (they may have gone to 24:1 later on, but I've always run 16:1). Kiekhaefer actually used needle bearings on his outboards starting very early on, which is one reason that they performed really well (as complicated as they at times are).

@@retro_grade amazing

No kill switches (as they weren't factory). The linkage is basically just a steel cable with an adjustment in the middle that runs between them. The family has been using this setup since 1974 and hasn't had any issues with it yet 😅. Before that, it was 1957 35 HP engines. The only real issue with this setup is that because both of the motors turn the prop in the same direction, the boat does want to pull to the right. It definitely is overdue for some new high strand vinyl coated cable and adjustment.

Thanks!

Yep, exactly! Complex, yet simple at the same time....a bit to sort out with starting the engine backwards, but also no clutch dogs in the lower unit to wear out shifting! I wouldn't be suprised at all, since Kiekhaefer under-rated everything at that time :)

Really? That's interesting! So you mean they're making a comback over there? How so? One guy on here, from New Zealand from what I remember, is pretty passionate in constantly informing me how big of junk they and any other old outboard are 😂

They certainly are, thanks!!!

It certainly is....will probably still be running after I'm long gone!

I most likely threw it away and got another one out LOL.

I actually bought a set of aluminum oars shortly after getting the boat (think I made a short of them somewhere). However, they're a bit too long and I think I need the shorter, more rare version that Alumacraft made.

Slang, I guess, that while incorrect is easier to fit into titles and searched for more frequently on UA-cam. Didn't help me for views on this one though....

I enjoyed all your videos ,especially your family heirloom

@@davesirvio749 thanks! There will be more coming out on that one for sure, it's not going anywhere.

I had forgotten about that, that's right! The last one to use them is the one who's responsible...thanks for owning up!

Thanks!

@@retro_grade , subbed YW

@@MegaBait1616 thanks!!!

We shall see what happens.....as underqualified as I am, we do like to live dangerously over here at Retro Grade. We're not smart people 😅 I did figure I was missing something when checking, during shooting of the video. Not only is the water not leaking at the muffs, but it's coming out of the outlet as dictated by the owner's manual (maybe I just should have looked at that during that time....but that would have made too much sense!) Stay tuned 😂

Nice! Probably would still be able to do today, as any 60's boat sticks out from most of the stuff out on the water :)

LOL, Yep ..

Thanks! I try to incorporate that old footage as much as I can in these. I literally have hours upon hours of it, scanned from a whole box of film reels. Sometimes it's hard to choose what to put in there :)

Thanks!

Haha, thanks! Glad that you enjoyed it! Are you talking about Matt Penn? From what I have heard, and now seen looking at his website oldoutboard.com, he did finally sell the business (and inventory I'm guessing). It looks like it's "J&E Outboards" and run by a couple in North Carolina. I haven't heard much about them yet. Looks like their email is shown on the website as theoldoutboard@gmail.com. Looks like they have a shift lever I've been looking for....may order it from them and see how it goes :)

No problem, glad we could help!

Nice! Yep, ours had painted fenders on it as well. Pretty sure it was all factory paint.

Nice! That's awesome story. It's funny how much further ahead Honda's were back then compared to the British stuff, which was so much more crude at the time. (Fun to appreciate them now, though, for what they were). A CB160 would run like a swiss watch compared to a 250 BSA (I've also had a BSA 250 Starfire as well for a period of time) lol. Also, in terms of the larger bikes, when Honda came out with the CB450 Black Bombers, they were a major disruption to the UK motorcycle market, where the 650 twins had been dominating at the time. From my understanding, had the same or better performance (although, I'd need to do some reading on on that to confirm). I have had a couple CB450's and BSA lightings, however, and I'd say that's probably a fair statment :)

Free is always hard to argue with, LOL. The Mercury you grew up with would have been the MK58 "Super Thunderbolt". They were very great motors indeed :)

I'm starting to recognize this username now. You must be really into old outboard motors. Glad you're a fan 😂

I've never seen anybody nicely fit an old cowling to a newer motor and make it look good. I wouldn't want one anyways. You are correct in many old motors not being kept up or maintained well. But, I've found that when the old 50's engines are properly maintained and kept up, they run smoother and sound nicer than any of the two stroke stuff from the 1970s up. Including the "bulletproof" 1970s and up OMC stuff...which seems to hold up great, but to me just sounds sloppy comparatively and doesn't have the character. Are they really that much heavier than newer two strokes? I'm skeptical. If you're comparing them to 4-strokes and saying they're heavier, get out of here 😂

@ I used to work for a Yamaha dealer. I gained much respect for their engineering. I think you would need to use the old cowling to make a mold and then join the new/old cowling to the original. OMC did not use even fire crankshaft technology. Only their V4’s ran smooth. 90 degrees X 4 =360. Their V6’ ran like three Harley V twins bolted together. Yamaha used Hitachi electrical components, which made them extremely reliable. I rigged a few of them on older, stylish boats and they ran great, but didn’t look right.

I mean sure, if you buy a genuine part from Ebay, it's fine. Same as getting from a dealership. Most cases, however (at least on these), geninue parts on Ebay aren't really any cheaper than buying from a dealer. I've never typically found any parts to to cheaper when sold by dealers on Ebay. Why would a dealership sell parts cheaper on Ebay, when it costs them additional fees to do so? Doesn't make any sense. Unless it's some overstock stuff that's been "laying around" at a private seller.

Yep! "Dock Buster", Direct Drive

Thanks? The loudness of the background music varies depending on how you are listening to the video, so I've found. I try not to make it too overbearing. Attention spans are short these days, especially with the younger crowd, so I personally think videos need it here and there. Coulda skipped to 7:00 where I cut it and started the engine. Oh well, there are plenty of other outboard videos out there with zero editing for ya that are likely background "music" free :)

@@retro_grade Thanks for the tip about moving forward to 7:00 to stop the music. REALLY enjoyed the rest of the video. It runs like a dream ! Greetings from Sydney Australia. One thing puzzles me, should the distributor wobble as much as it does ? As far as old outboards vs new, I have had 50 year old outboards with good compression that will go for another 50 years. OMC and Mercury build quality back then was bullet proof and long as you are kind to them. THANKS !!

Wow, nice!!! That is really cool. Was it still in the same condition when you got it the 2nd time?

Yes it was in the same condition when i sold it, after all it stay only 7 km from my house in the living room from a collector. In about 6 years i am 67 and retired. Then i have time to restore it.

@@floeki-jekker nice, sounds like a fun project!

The best way to start your day :)

They can be!

Not when there's an Autozone around with an open parking lot!

Thanks!

Nice! Better get on it and wear that 300,000 mile club sticker with pride! The old Toyota drivetrains really are rock solid and those things will run forever, if you can keep that frame rust down on them. I've only got 130,000 on my '19 Tacoma and '14 FJ so far, so it's a ways till I get to have a mileage pride sticker. Maybe at 200,000 miles I will? 😅 -Brock

🤣🤣🤣 yes it was! With the little exposure that UA-cam gives us and the few views we typically get as a result, it comments like yours that keep us going from time to time. At least, somebody else thinks our boats are cool and it's not just us!!!

@retro_grade your boats are cool. I'm currently restoring a StarCraft now, that's how I originally found your videos. I actually binged several of your long form videos last night!

@@BoringFisherman nice! Watch out, some of our videos vary in quality and maturity level lol. Looks like your into bikes as well looking at your channel. We bounce back and forth between the two as well (although mostly boats lately).

@@retro_grade same here! Plus some boring fishing content

Mines an 03 Tacoma and it’s at 302k miles. It’s needed an alternator. That’s about it. Still has stock timing belt and water pump.

The 4th gen Toyotas, probably not. The 3rd gens, maybe/hopefully. If I get the same level of reliablity that Andrew has had out of his 1st gen Tacoma, I'll be a happy customer. There's a reason that people think Toyota trucks are "gold", and it's because of how well the drivetrains held up on the 1st and 2nd genereation Tacomas and Tundras from the 90s and into the 2000s. This was at the same time that domestic manufacturers like GM and Ford were building stuff that wasn't as reliable. Years ago, Toyotas were considered "Japanese Junk" by many....it's not like everyone wanted them. It took years of great quality and success to build up that reputation. It's that "gold" perception that drove the resale value on them up, and pushed me for my Tacoma when I purchased it new in 2019, over a new Ranger or Colarado. I knew that I'd be stacking miles on my truck and didn't want to cringe or consider it "worn out" after exceeding the 100,000 mile mark. I'm now approaching 140k miles and have had zero issues. Somtimes I wonder if I should have considered comparable Rangers and Colorados, but I think in the long run I'll be better off. That's great that your Canyons made it over 300,000 miles but overall, I see MANY more Toyota owners bragging about high mileage approaching half a million miles than domestic truck owners. So, that's either because 1) Toyotas statsically make it further along without major mechanical issues or 2) Toyota owners are more vocal about their vehicles last longer. I'm leaning towards option 1. Maybe it's just a difference in typical owners, but it's kindof interesting - it seems to me like most GM/Ford/Dodge owners feel like their vehicles are old and worn out past 100,000 miles....while Toyota owners consider it "just broken in" and start wearing their high mileage like it's a badge of honor😂.

That's interesting, didn't know that! That would seem to be a more robust design than the chain route, lol.

@ i have a 67’ uk registered which has only chain from the crank, the rest gear meshed

Yeah, I know....I guess I usually just get the pump wet, and then leave the water off until I know it's going to run, rather than continually dumping water all over everything and getting the surrounding area wet and getting annoyed with one more thing. (I'm used to working on engines that haven't been run in several years and won't necessarily start up the first go). Thinking back on how abusive we were to old OMC motors when I was younger (starting them completely dry), I think the water pumps are a bit less delicate than most people think they are, lol. Some of it's also probably habit carried over from jet skis as well I suppose.

@ yes. Those old omc pumps are pretty tough. I’m used to running motors outside, I never thought about not wanting to fill the garage up with water😂

Not sure, still could be the module shown in this short, or could also be the switch possibly. Also check the bulbs perhaps.

Thanks!!!

Thanks! No, there isn't - hearing that thing scream wide open directly behind me is the best sound ever, I love it. That's why people who say "4 strokes are better because they are quieter" really don't understand that's a losing point of arguement 😂

When I made the comment, a vacuum cleaner was exactly what I was thinking of lol. We have a couple old 1950's ones at our family cabin (trying to remember the brand) that remind me of that.

At 71 years old, it sounds like you have more money than time..... With that being said, getting a truck up in 10 minutes is pretty bad....trucks should be much easier than cars. You should work on improving those numbers. I looked into buying a 7000TLX Quickjack locally of marketplace awhile ago, and reading this indicates I made the right decision deciding against it. With the All-In-One jack stands, I can lift my Tacoma using those only, no floor jack needed. I'm able to get the truck up, rotate all four tires, and wheels back down onto the pavement in 15 minutes. Minimal dog panting required.

@@francismcmanus7312 is that right? Guess we'll see about that once she's mounted, hooked up, and on the water

@@duanelappe9767 thanks!