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I'm convinced a lot of social and economic problems today will only be alleviated with a demographic collapse.

Religion and faith are kind of separate things. Faith is the belief in God and that your good deeds and hard work will be rewarded. Religion is more of a human form of organization around a common set of beliefs/faith. You can start with faith and then the religion follows. But if the underlying faith disappears then people will abandon the religion because it will be meaningless, pointless, hollow. I think that happened in Europe almost 100 years ago , in the US maybe a bit later. Without faith in a greater cause beyond yourself there really isn't much of a point in having children because they don't serve you, you only serve them

Government = "someone else should do this". Because you don't need government to do something yourself. You only need government to force other people to do things. So when people say "the government should do this" , they're saying "Other people should be forced to do this".

The government enacted pension laws that the baby boomers paid into their whole lives. Now that they retired we find out the money has been mishandled or "repurposed" (stolen). Everybody was expecting that they would be able to simply pass the burden on to other people's children. The lesson is that you should not trust or rely on the government for anything.

Growing up I watched women break their backs to literally do everything to keep the household afloat. Whenever anybody need help they always ran to the woman. The men were nowhere to be found when they were needed........

And? Won't AI take replace most jobs anyway?

"People move cities for careers". Exactly. Industrial and postindustrial capitalism has been a parasite in the body of society, feeding on the vital organs of family and neighborhood and friend groups, consuming them individual by individual and custom by custom. Take daycare. Fifty years ago paying someone to look after your children was abnormal - childminding was something neighbors did for each other, if grandparents or sisters couldn't do it. (The exception was babysitting, a custom that allowed teenage girls to get (more) experience looking after younger children, limited to a few hours in the evening when the kids were mostly asleep anyway. The payments were token. Babysitting also exposed teen girls to the idea of having a family; as Stephen essentially said, "social proof" is important for women.) Every one of the bonds that tied us together, that made us human, has been corroded and dissolved by capitalism and its mindset. Now we are consumption and labor robots and see everyone else that way too. Easily discarded if they are not useful to you. Society is an empty husk, dead but not quite fallen over.

Meta comment: At the end of this chat, Stephen says he is getting enormous interest from young people. I hope he is right, but it doesn't look like it. I have watched maybe twenty serious videos on fertility collapse (besides many more on the related/overlapping topic of cultural collapse, shout-out to KaiserBauch), interviews with people such as Nicholas Eberstadt, Paul Morland, Darrell Bricker, and more besides. And there are many less-serious videos by channels such as TLDR News and several "life in Korea" channels, and interviews with Peter Zeihan and his ilk. The really noticeable thing to me is how few views these videos are getting, compared to videos of people doing silly things in video games, cats doing silly things, politicians doing silly things, and such. Thousands or tens of thousands, versus tens of millions. The one exception is a video by the Hoover Institution which has 5.3M views. I don't think there is much interest at all.

In 2013 Karen Swallow Prior wrote in the "Atlantic" magazine about a shift in the role of marriage in the life of young women over the last few decades. During the Baby Boom marriage was a cornerstone on which couples built their lives together, something they did intheir early twenties. Since then marriage has increasingly become a capstone to a life achieved successfully, an instagrammable extravaganza signalling that you have the career and the house and other markers of success. This shift from cornerstone to capstone explains the number of people still single and childless at 30.

What about the so-called 'maternal instinct'?

Marriage and the nuclear family have been destroyed and that was the best institution for bringing up children.

What I can't get my head around is how to work enough to afford enough daycare so I can work more lol. Where is there time to actually spend with me kid if I have one, and forget about me ever affording it with prices these days anyway!

My neighbor remodeled her house and bought a new washing machine. She put the old one by the street with a "FREE" sign on it. It sat there for many weeks. Then she put a $50 sign on it. After a few days someone stole it. People don't value things that are free. The same goes for kids. If you pay peope all sorts of money to have kids it reinforces the thought that kids are a burden and not otherwise desirable. Besides, I do think it is unfair to the people who do not have kids. Maybe one person likes to have a big car and the other likes to have a big family. Why would the person with the big car have to pay for the other person's big family?

OECD countries, who have an average per capita income 4 times the world average but make up only 15% of the world's population, will be able to maintain their population through immigration. The real crisis will come when fertility falls in the poorest countries, and these countries suffer a massive depopulation from the combined effects of emigration and low birth rates. We already see some of the effects of that in parts of the Balkans, such as Bulgaria and Moldova. Also, in the wealthy countries, it's going to be interesting to see what the inter-generational tensions will be when there are far more old people than young people, and when those two groups are of different ethnicities. I already see that in my neighborhood, where most old people are white, and most children are brown.

@WisdomRebellion Darrell Bricker is largely correct except that his current numbers and future projections are more conservative than what's actually happening. Plus he (like all other demographers) cannot tell you the BILLION dollar question, "WHY". Without knowing "WHY" the population is falling, you can only tell that the population is currently falling; that's what you're seeing all over the world. Beyond that, any projection is just an educated guess.

3:31 Humans are the only species that can have sex without producing offspring. If abortion or birth control pills were not used, the birth rate would still be in the range of 5.0-6.0. considering that humans still have a biological urge to have sex

Bricker seems to ignore that human behaviour is genetically determined to a large degree and if it comes down to personal preference, there's going to be extremely strong selection for the preference to have children. In the West, that tends to be more conservative types, often religious. It won't take many generations to breed out the tendency to not bother having children.

So Darrell's solution to make Africa successful is for them to do all the same things that got us to where we are now? I say if you want a different outcome you need to take a different approach. The fertility rate dropped right around the time that all this socialist bureaucratic cobweb welfare state stuff was introduced. We need to get back to a society of freedom and opportunity, optimism, faith, morale.

There is a lot of positive in all this. Loving caring giving people are the ones who will have children, and who will raise their children as such. Selfish people will not have children (or less). So there should be a Darwinian shift happening over the next century orso.

We need smaller more local communities, solving problems locally. Not just population but also trade , regulation, needs to be done more locally

39:00 I have four children but it took me three wives to get them.

You can say what you like, but you are not going to convince the childfree that having a family is great. You want to start families? By all means - that is, if you are not so desperately ordinary that you will find no partner. But don't count us in. You keep playing, we are out of the game.

Love your new channel Kat! It's going to be really big really soon!

Do not fall the trap 80% of jobs will be taken over by AI

We are talking population reduction, not "empty" planet. The only forcast I have seen is by 2100 to be 3-4 billion, that is what it was when I was born. Just more room to breath, the problem is economics as our system is based on growth.

The more wealth you have, the more things you can do, the greater the opportunity cost of having children. If you have a society that values individualism (which is encouraged by capitalism) naturally people won't prioritise children. People leave it too late and then their chance is gone. One thing to note is that they found that when men came into some money they tend to look to form a family. When women came into money they tended to break up their family.

Israel is bankrolled by the USA. No other country has that.

That sonic picture is so cool, also great conversation this topic interest me as I can see the reduction in children as a 90 kids who having children now a good amount my friend don't have kids and won't

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I can’t even imagine having a child.

It would be interesting to dig into the psychology of the childless or of those who remain single, to see why. I suspect many come from dysfunctional families with at least one abusive parent.

He's the best demographer!

Demographic crisis is the result of other issues that world ignored. Poor education, bullying, denying people their truth,. Crime, poor nutrition, greed, corruption, these were the issues which were ignored. Population collapse is just a symptom of worse things to come.

Every colonial settler Apartheid state needs a high fertility and high birth rate. How can settlers hope to violently displace the natives and seize their land with a small family size where each generation is smaller than the one before?

Nap when they nap is the worst piece of advice especially if you have a short napper. When am I going to eat, shower , clean or take time for myself? I hate that advice cause most times by the times I settled into sleep after eating a meal (30 mins) plus the 15 mins it takes to fall asleep my newborn was awake. It just ended in frustration if anything. So no expectations no frustrations.

Informative podcast, how are you able to get these guests with such a small channel?

The both of you and human beings in general mean well. Important topic here. Thank you for caring about the well-being of others The direct/indirect consequences/harms of antinatalism is a byproduct to the direct/indirect consequences/harms to this existence itself Addressing the subset of harms that come with antinatalism is good to note, though it is important to mention that this is not the source of our issues, the nature to this existence at bottom is

Thank you for continuing to discuss this topic. When every family member is against not putting our 3yr old into nursery, watching interviews like this remind me that I’m doing the right thing. It baffles me why we think it’s better to put our children into settings when they’re young. People look at me like I’m insane when I say, it’s actually better for kids to be with their parents when they’re young. Shouldn’t that be common sense? It was thanks to this doctor that I decided to not return to work and to have my children home until they’re at least 5-6yrs old. My children can’t thank you enough. Thank you.

The assertion that an entire race is conspiring to oppress and subjugate the victim class is right out of the nazi playbook. The assertion that history is being suppressed is thoroughly debunked by the fact that the history in question is common knowledge, and always has been. "More important, as critical race theorists we adopt a stance that PRESUMES that racism has contributed to ALL contemporary manifestations of group advantage and disadvantage along RACIAL lines, including differences in income, imprisonment,health, housing, education, political representation, and military service. Our history calls for this PRESUMPTION." "Words That Wound: Critical Race Theory, Assaultive Speech, and the First Amendment" by Matsuda, Lawrence III, Delgado, and KIMBERLE' WILLIAMS CRENSHAW Those are their words from their intellectual papers: It is the entire foundation of the premise. CRT promotes the notion that the fact that a group is measurably superior is proof that everybody in that group is guilty; and, that a group being inferior is proof that everybody in that group is a victim. Further: this principle projects through time; asserting that what happened to the long dead projects onto the guilt or victimhood of the living; even if the living never experienced it at all........... CRT uses history and statistics to justify using government force to implement racial discrimination. CRT obviates the need for any thought, word or act of racism as proof of their presumed verdict. All they need is their preferred race measuring less favorably than another. Regardless of the cause: they declare their favored race to be victims of the other. Then they would use real government enforced discrimination in response to their presumed discrimination; altering laws, policies and practices to favor their preferred race. All for the stated purpose of forcibly making the measurements between races identical. The operative question is whether you support using government force to implement racial discrimination. All the rest is academic. My answer is no.

The Eugenics Movement bears a striking resemblance to Critical Race Theory. An academic movement used to justify using violence against honest, peaceful people. The central theme of the justification being the fact that people measure differently from one another. They both cherry pick statistics that support their preformed conclusions. They both ignore real causes of their measurements in favor of their own sophistry. The more things change; the more they stay the same.

LOL. Come to the Philippines and drive around then say that.

The worlds population was 1 billion in the 1800s

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The wealth of the US is in the hands of the elderly. The argument that the young will shoulder the cost of the care of these folks in the next 10 years is counterintuitive

Me personally, I feel like I need children because I feel bad for my parents. They've created a great life for me and my brother and it seems like they're just waiting around for their grandkids. I'm 32 and my father finally asked me why I don't have a partner and I had to tell him that women my age don't want kids. It's really not my fault. A lot of women don't want children. I also know some women who can't have children and that's one thing to keep in mind. There are women who have to live with the guilt of not being fertile and they do take that hard.

We wonder why ancient civilizations ended and I think it's because of population collapse. Think about this. The living can no longer bury the dead, you'd end up with entire cities and neighborhoods with nothing but deceased bodies. That would be a biohazard and literal nightmare for the living. The living would simply move somewhere else and never come back to the dead civilization. For generations people will just avoid the horrific dead and decaying city that once existed and it never comes back. If it's lucky, artifacts and structures survive long enough for historians to find them thousands of years later.

i think the crisis is we are not having enough sex

If testosterone is the “repair hormone”, doesn’t it stand to reason that if you have really high testosterone after your workouts, that means you are damaging your body in other ways?