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Very happy with the XRF. It has worked great and I sometimes tell people it's like cheating in the lab. Absolutely not necessary but a big time saver for sure. XRF's are between $10,000 and $20,000, I would recommend Olympus Gold Xpert.

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@@timtoolman4125 I ordered mine from GP-technical on ebay. They were fair to deal with.

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Yes Approx. 1 gram of silver per spoon is the average for single plated items.

If it's silver plate, it's probably on brass. Or stainless/steel. So you're not talking a kings ransom. But brass can be sold to scrap yards scrap yards for 1.70/lb or so. It's an alloy and you wouldn't be able to separate into elements without using chemicals. Just sell to scrap yard or make brass ingots

If I recall, I was off by about a quarter inch! Lol

Thanks so much! Nice compliment, glad you liked it. I'll keep growing em (crystals) until you get yours set up! Lol

Yeah I know. I literally stained everything the first time I ever used AgNO3

Thanks for noticing! Having tile on my bench helps a lot. I literally spend about half of my time cleaning up from experiments. Sometimes I feel like a dishwasher at the casino! Lol

Thanks for the awesome compliment! Yes, I am planning on those results coming up. Might take me a little bit to get to it because I have a few things to wrap up but it will be included in one of the next few videos. Thanks for watching!!!

Those gram weights in the beginning are not the weights of plated stuff i put in but an approximate guess based on absolutely nothing about the amount after the process is complete so my yield essentially lol or what id expect again dunno why i came up with that but i did youse a LOT of materials over the course of a decade and like i have just kept each batch and stored it as i could not proceed to the getting the metals out of solution stage so I'm assuming filter the solution and then What sodium bisulfate is it? but I have all essential PPE yeah i've been doing chemistry for like many years as a hobby lol So No formal education but I'm fairly confident in my skills i do all kinds of crazy stuff haha You can see a video of the aforementioned solution via my YT account under this name if youd like to see where i am at with the solution some are more bron like youd expect at first once your gold had dissolved. Oki doki Thanks ! Like you said there is such a thing as waste in chemistry and although ive put money into this project ive made it back through other things i was able to do or assist me better in doing because of my study of chemistry like I love it i can make a bunch of my own things and like yeah i dont need anything i can explain all kinds a of things i never could before and prove it using chemistry its great!

Usually when I’m dealing with an unknown substance I check the ph to make sure it is still acidic. If not, add some fresh acid slowly and view results. That should give you a starting point. Then take a test tube and sample. Your best bet might just be to add potassium hydroxide. That will push everything in solution out and you can start over. If your tests give you a good indication of what is in solution you can proceed accordingly. You can use stannous test, adding some copper to see if you get silver to plate out. You need a few test tubes. Sounds like a fun problem to have though.

Thanks so much for watching, glad you liked it and let me know how your refining goes.

I would try SMB in a test tube. If its gold in aqua regia it will drop out! But I think if there is silver in there you could get silver chloride as well and you'll need to further refine. SMB is a good test.

Very good idea. I’ll give it a go. Thanks so much or watching!

I wish they were. That would be some video!

You can find a decent machine starting at about $8,000 to $20,000. Kind of like buying a used car. Thanks for watching!

Thanks! I'm thinking of making a new stainless steel one in an upcoming video. It works great.

Im wondering if you added potassium nitrate to the hcl solution would that precipitate the silver chloride?.

Yes, it will precip everything. Electrolysis with platinum anode and graphite cathode will also precip just the silver if you run half of the solution until you start to see the copper drop stop elec.

Electrolysis - Graphite cathode and platinum anode. Silver will drop first. Stop electrolysis as soon as you see the copper drop. Just finished up this experiment. Maybe some kinks on the pt anode but it worked very well in my first attempt.

So been thinking Using vinegar is way cheaper and easier as far as waste goes. Do the reaction for stripping then take solution and remove base metals with concentrated vinegar, salt and h2o2 to get a cleaner silver. Then save it for the day that you have a proper setup to refine with nitric and be done with it! Love your channel btw thanks for all the great info!

Good question… I haven’t actually put a very small sample, but I would think 10 particles maybe 20. Much less than a gram for sure.

Thanks a lot! Really glad you liked it. It’s an interesting word! Most people have never heard of it.

You’re not wrong, but I will be showing soon how with this set up, it actually can be easier after the initial investment is made and all the parts are in place. To do it right just takes a little patience. Thanks so much for watching!

Thank you! Great to hear! More to come...

Thank you! You should do it! My wife goes to estate sales, and I buy at online auctions. But the best way is just get started refining and tell people what your up to. You'll be suprised to know that most people have old jewelry they would take a few bucks for.

Solid silver anode should give the best results for 9999 I would think! Slow and steady is the way! I think I heard that somewhere…. Thanks Fran!

Lol about Elon's truck! Yes, it will corrode. You can use it and it will work. It isn't a deal breaker if it is all you have. Run lower voltage to lesson the corrosion. If you get a little iron it will simple dissolve into solution and then I rinse the silver crystals in HCL to remove any residual. I have been using the smaller neck (19/26) aspirator bottle for a couple months and it has worked very well. I think the only draw back I am testing is a small reduction in output but overall it works just about the same as my original bottle and it saves on dacron filters! Thanks so much for watching!

Sorry meant to say rinse in sulfuric acid. Do not rinse silver in HCL.

I will have videos upcoming on how to use up all of the solutions. There are a few ways to get the result you're looking for. All acids and solids are in the system until you pull them out. They don't go anywhere but we have to decide in what form we want them to come out in. I am working on a series of experiments to pull each metal out one by one and reclaim the acids. Stay tuned and Thanks so much for watching.

LOL!! There destroying it for us! - I would either add more silver first to consume the nitric or you can boil it off before smelting. Just reduce your solution down until there are no more fumes. Use high heat to drive off the nitric. If there is a large excess of nitric I would add HCL to produce silver chloride and convert with lye and sugar. HCL will convert all the nitric. If you are using copper to plate out the silver, excess nitric will just eat up your copper before it neutralizes and starts plating out the silver, which also works fine if you are keeping your copper! Thanks so much for watching! God Bless

Thank you for watching! I get 999 silver directly from the cell. Sterling in and 999 out. The only draw back, compared to some other methods, is that you will need to change out your electrolyte more frequently depending on how much base metal is introduced. This method has been used traditionally to purify 98% silver or higher, as a final step. Which I figure is not a concern because with this method you can recover most of your nitric acid with distillation. (upcoming video on this) The bottle is a 24/40 aspirator bottle for sale on amazon for about $50 US. The membrane is "dacron", (Shopvac - wet dry vacuum bag). Also don't forget to buy chemically resistant zip-ties, I buy mine from Grainger. Let me know how it goes, it is a lot of fun watching the crystals grow!

The difference between science and messing around is "writing it down"!

Hi there brother! if all you want is your silver this is not the way to go, but i'm going to refine out, or at least i believe, i will refine out every metal with this process. Next test... Using the series of metals to pull the base metals out of the waste aqua regia one by one. My end goal is a sort of trash compactor approach. Garbage in, pure metal out! Keeping or selling all of the base metals is worth the cost of my acids. On your other point, I've put 50/50 silver in the cell and it works fine until it doesn't. If you run it twice it comes out 999. I've found that (95% and up silver put in cell will get 999 out. below that will also work if you monitor your solution saturation. As long as you don't reach a critical point of saturation you will get out 999 fine. God Bless!

Thanks for watching! Pouring slimes into aqua regia causes silver chloride to form and settle out to the bottom. Every other metal will dissolve into solution. This creates a seperation point to get only pure silver chloride. Convert AgCl into silver metal using lye and sugar method.

Silver is silver, no matter what form it is in, it has a buyer. Or a stacker... Sell to refiner is simple, sell to the public a little more work. Thanks for Subscribing!!!

Pure gold should be combined with silver to dissolve properly. AR is poor at dissolving pure gold. I suppose it would dissolve over a period of time but combine with silver then go nitric to remove silver then the gold is broken down into its cement form and AR works fast on it then.

Yes, I would be happy to. Send an email to anthonythomas.us

Iron present would be my guess.