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DCS: Mi-24P | by the book | vertical landing IGE
Short video about the correct technique for a vertical landing in ground effect (IGE) in the Mi-24P. All according to the manual. Some questions and answers below:
Q. When is a vertical landing IGE recommended?
A. You can consider it to be the standard technique. It keeps your speed up at about 40kph until you reach ground effect and an air cushion builds below the helicopter. This way, you require less power for your landing. However, if conditions are hot and high - or if the helicopter is loaded to it's maximum weight, then a running landing is recommended.
If there are close-in obstacles on approach, a vertical landing "out of ground effect" (OGE) must be flown.
Q. What are the main points of this approach again?
A.
1. Starting at 1000m distance / 100m height / 80kph.
2. Descend at 80kph / with about 2m/s / Maximum allowed 3m/s!
3. At 50m lower landing gear and begin speed reduction.
4. At 25m be at 50kph
5. Come into a hover 2-3 meters above the ground
6. Slowly descend to the ground, center cyclic, lower collective, wheel brake on
Q. How do I make my flying and hovering smoother and more stable?
A.
1. Hardware: Buy, mod or build proper helicopter controls. It's essential. Don't use curves or deadzones.
2. Carefully trim the helicopter. On the Mi-24, I recommend to use the second trim variant via the HAT switch. It allows you to adjust the cyclic position stepless.
3. Be ahead of the aircraft. Know how much power you will need in the next 5-10 seconds. Pull collective in advance. If you do it smoothly, you can also work the anti-torque pedals smoother.
Q. How do I keep speed, altitude and vertical speed constant?
A.
1. Manage speed by adjusting cyclic. Manage descent rate by adjusting collective.
When you notice that your speed is dropping, push the cyclic forward slightly and keep it there, until you have reached your desired airspeed. Then pull the stick slightly aft again. If you are using a joystick with springs, I highly recommend the HAT switch trim buttons for this!
When you notice that vertical speed is dropping, adjust collective.
Of course this also works the other way around (if speed or vertical speed increases).
2. Scanning your instruments is very important. But try not to fixate on one specific gauge. Rather do it this way: Look outside - Check forward speed and altitude - Look outside again - Check vertical speed - Look outside...
Q. Is the Autopilot Yaw channel used during approach?
A. No! It does help to stabilize the motion of the helicopter. But it comes with one major drawback: You can not (quickly) tell how much right pedal travel is available during critical phases of flight. Using AP YAW channel on approach can result in the following situation: You are trying to enter a hover, but the helicopter is too heavy. As you pull in more collective, the AP YAW channel runs out of travel and the aircraft starts spinning to the left.
Q. Why do I tend to fly backwards when I start my hover?
A. The Mi-24 hovers "nose low", which is a bit unusual, as most helicopters hover "nose high". Coming from one of these other types, you might be used to this hovering attitude. Try to get used to the visual picture in the Mi-24 and "retrain" your muscle memory!
Q. Why are there no control indicators in the video?
A. In about 99% of the video the control inputs are so small that you would not even notice any movement on the indicator. So, for the immersion I prefer to keep it off.
Q. Which manual is this procedure based on?
A. It's based on the "Mi-24P helicopter crew instruction book 1" in Russian language. I can not share the file, but you will find it, if you search for "Ми-24П Инструкция экипажу". I recommend yandex.ru for searching Russian documents.
More questions? Write a comment!
Q. When is a vertical landing IGE recommended?
A. You can consider it to be the standard technique. It keeps your speed up at about 40kph until you reach ground effect and an air cushion builds below the helicopter. This way, you require less power for your landing. However, if conditions are hot and high - or if the helicopter is loaded to it's maximum weight, then a running landing is recommended.
If there are close-in obstacles on approach, a vertical landing "out of ground effect" (OGE) must be flown.
Q. What are the main points of this approach again?
A.
1. Starting at 1000m distance / 100m height / 80kph.
2. Descend at 80kph / with about 2m/s / Maximum allowed 3m/s!
3. At 50m lower landing gear and begin speed reduction.
4. At 25m be at 50kph
5. Come into a hover 2-3 meters above the ground
6. Slowly descend to the ground, center cyclic, lower collective, wheel brake on
Q. How do I make my flying and hovering smoother and more stable?
A.
1. Hardware: Buy, mod or build proper helicopter controls. It's essential. Don't use curves or deadzones.
2. Carefully trim the helicopter. On the Mi-24, I recommend to use the second trim variant via the HAT switch. It allows you to adjust the cyclic position stepless.
3. Be ahead of the aircraft. Know how much power you will need in the next 5-10 seconds. Pull collective in advance. If you do it smoothly, you can also work the anti-torque pedals smoother.
Q. How do I keep speed, altitude and vertical speed constant?
A.
1. Manage speed by adjusting cyclic. Manage descent rate by adjusting collective.
When you notice that your speed is dropping, push the cyclic forward slightly and keep it there, until you have reached your desired airspeed. Then pull the stick slightly aft again. If you are using a joystick with springs, I highly recommend the HAT switch trim buttons for this!
When you notice that vertical speed is dropping, adjust collective.
Of course this also works the other way around (if speed or vertical speed increases).
2. Scanning your instruments is very important. But try not to fixate on one specific gauge. Rather do it this way: Look outside - Check forward speed and altitude - Look outside again - Check vertical speed - Look outside...
Q. Is the Autopilot Yaw channel used during approach?
A. No! It does help to stabilize the motion of the helicopter. But it comes with one major drawback: You can not (quickly) tell how much right pedal travel is available during critical phases of flight. Using AP YAW channel on approach can result in the following situation: You are trying to enter a hover, but the helicopter is too heavy. As you pull in more collective, the AP YAW channel runs out of travel and the aircraft starts spinning to the left.
Q. Why do I tend to fly backwards when I start my hover?
A. The Mi-24 hovers "nose low", which is a bit unusual, as most helicopters hover "nose high". Coming from one of these other types, you might be used to this hovering attitude. Try to get used to the visual picture in the Mi-24 and "retrain" your muscle memory!
Q. Why are there no control indicators in the video?
A. In about 99% of the video the control inputs are so small that you would not even notice any movement on the indicator. So, for the immersion I prefer to keep it off.
Q. Which manual is this procedure based on?
A. It's based on the "Mi-24P helicopter crew instruction book 1" in Russian language. I can not share the file, but you will find it, if you search for "Ми-24П Инструкция экипажу". I recommend yandex.ru for searching Russian documents.
More questions? Write a comment!
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This question probably sounds dumb but watching my favorite movie Uncommon Valor, what does a helicopter pilot mean when he says heavy stick?
Does this joystick still work?
Hi Victor , perfect flight and good video!! Can you please advise me how to set the axes in the settings? to what values?
hello. I am making a flight stick following your video. I encounter difficulties when I connect to the PC, when testing buttons. Nothing is working properly. All connections have been checked several times. I watched the video several times, I don't think I missed anything. When I test the wires, at the output of the card, I find a connection between the blue and green wires. Did I burn a component? Can you help me?
Does MS FFB 2 go limp once the game starts? For some reason my MS FFB2 goes limp in-game and once I exit the game it centers but not during the game,
Hey Viktor, i need your advise. i´m currently relearning and enjoying the mi24. unfortunatly my cross on my map does not move. it never moves, no matter what i try. i do the alignment by pressing the sync button, holding it for few seconds, 3 minutes after powering on the system and it is also set to MAG. It worked back days when the mi24 was ea-released, but now it wont work anymore. what else can be the issue with the non moving cross on the map? cant find anything in forums or by search. maybe you can help me out. do more videos!!
So take a Sidewinder 2 and change the stick to that of a Thrustmaster one. Wow.
Wow, I am glad I found you!
Hello, perfect flight and good video !! Can you advise me how to set the axes please?
Virtual Flight Training ?
This is great but the latest windows 10-11 OS does not support force feed back dammit 😫
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did all that and no video of it in action?
Force feedback would be awesome but this looks like some risky business
I forgot to ask you how are you connecting it to the computer are you using an adaptor gameport to USB or something else
Hello again Victor! Just a quick question please…. My stick is still going strong 👍. Have you ever tried adding more resistors to the board? Would adding another to each stack strengthen the ffb effect? I could not IL2 without my ffb stick ❤ Thanks
Forgot to say, I found the nerve to do the solder mod on my new stick - went fine. Also picked up another cheap spare stick!
Flying tank
You should do more videos, there is no much other helicopter channels like yours
Hi Viktor, great videos! Do you have any plans to follow up with a video on out of ground effect/ steep landing approach?
I'm reasonably certain that the paper moving map shown at 4:25 is just made by Decca and driven by a doppler radar system - the moving maps that used the Decca Navigator system (with the red/green/purple pairs of stations, no radar in the aircraft, just a passive radio receiver) used a very different and interestingly distorted projection.
Hi Viktor, do you still mod this Microsoft stick for pilots? If so, please accept my friend request on Discord. Kind regards, RD.
Smooth! Well done!
Then there's me....seesaw ride to hell 😄 Great flying Viktor
Fantastic Video! Thanks for sharing and taking the time making it. However, haven't seen any new ones for quite some times. Are you still simming?
Excellent work
Do you have a discord?
And i was going to drop 200 dollars on a warthog.. Fuck that sign me up for this, i'm just waiting for a chinese company who doesn't care about patent infringement to actually design a new force feedback stick. What would it take to upgrade these motors to PWM motors?
One question, do helicopter are not supposed to have springs cyclic? I have a Logitech x52 HOTAS to use for the Helicopters in Squad and the game only has trim method.
I held off buying this module for a long time, was not all that interested, I was bored waiting for the Apache the other day so I tried it on the trial offering from ED, and enjoyed so much I bought it. It is quite special actually.
Great tutorial thank you
I usually do not comment but I have to. Your video was, perfect you didn’t turn 4 min video into a 20 min lecture. Thank you
Hello again! I’m having another go at soldering resistors after picking up a spare ffb2 to fall back on if it goes bad. I soldered yesterday and it went well and neatly (using fine tip iron and magnifying glasses - much easier) All working fine apart from squealing noise when stick pushed forwards, left / right and back all good. I know this means that one of the resistors is poorly soldered / fitted but which one? Do you know which resistor corresponds to each input movement on the stick please? Thanks 👍
great Idea.
Hey Viktor. Do you have any of these joysticks for sale nowdays?
Please continue with this vids they are excellent
These are absolutely awesome.... thanks for your efforts to bring such quality content.
Hello Viktor, I made a Force Feedback modified following that video. I have just a problem cause the force feedback is not working, I don't understand something. Everything is working well (forces and buttons in the grip). I have connected the grey and white cables for the switch which activate the motors. But you speak about cables violet, black and dark red which we can cut. I found the purple, the black, but which one is the dark red ? On your video, I can see the purple and the black cut, but not the dark red. Then I saw two large cables red and black which are terminated by a (visibly) unconnected connector, is it these ones ? If necessary, I can send you photos if you can help (I need an email). Thanks for your tutorial, Marc
Hi Marc! Sorry for the late response. If you still need help, find me on Discord: Crow#1585
Awesome content and the description notes are great!
Excellent video
Perfect landing. Great explanation - may be the best I have seen so far. THX! :-)
Would it by hypothetically possible to add an X-55 stick and then add the extra buttons it has to be compatible?
My plan is to do this with my x52 but will need to have the board from the 52 somewhere. So will probably mount the 52 base under ffb2 base
So the buttons work, there's contact on the board (multimeter beeps), but won't work when I plug it in :( I tried it with that connection "using the silver wire" part, I even used a regular wire, tried it without it, nothing seems to work as far as buttons go
I bought these 1106 resistors, I'm guessing the 1800 number on it is the resistance? Any benefit to putting a higher number on it? I have a bag full of different numbers
i use a modified microsoft ffb 2 stick with extended carbon tube for long cyclic grip and attached a thrustmaster topgun grip for the huey and typical helicopter cyclic look. I use sim ffb for dampener effect and I use virpil pedals with spring removed. I can't wait to get a collective to finish the thing off.
Can you do a by the book startup with all the checks and stuff? Great video series!
Thank you! Yes, complete startup is on the list. However quite a few systems don't work yet. The module is still early access. Once all the stuff works, I will make a video!
Virtual Flight Training Looking forward to it! Thanks!
The smoothest landing I ever seen. It motivate us all and "slow is fast" is something that comes on my mind watching this.
Thank you, Dejan. Yes, it's all about control.
I don't hear English speakers not call the thing Em I 24 Pe very often... :)
Hi victor, very good video! just wondering how do you get the the doppler indicator OFF light to work? many thanks in advance
Hi Ruben. I have not made any specific settings. It just works correctly on my side.
Nicely done! Would it be possible to add the controls indicator on future videos please? It would be nice to see how much pedal was added on the turn to final, and collective position when approaching IGE etc.
I have a question about helicopter flight in general: Is a coordinated flight (centered ball) or minimal drift angle more important? I can't seem to have both under normal weather conditions and at crusing speed and altitude.
Hi Timo! I have not yet found a right or wrong here. But the Russian manuals lean towards "ball centered". Drift is a big issue on the Mi-8 and much less on the Mi-24, because of the fuselage / tail geometry and aerodynamics.
@@virtualflighttraining9694 Thank you very much for the info.
Thats the directional straight and the other one is the aerodynamical straight. If you fly straight and in your direction at your course everything is fine but expect the drift. Generelly they flex the "straight" means it must not always centered
Great series!!
Thank you!