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The become a copy effect is just a continuous effect (specifically on Layer 1 for copiable values) generated by Aegis' second triggered ability, and should stop existing as soon as its condition for existing is broken - Aegis remaining attached to the creature. State-based actions are taken in response to improper conditions in the game state: essentially when the Game sees something 'wrong' as defined by the game's rules. Card effects can sometimes change (or ignore) rules, but generally do not generate their own improper conditions.

Ooh. The Trinisphere step is still part of determining the cost though so by the time you start paying it and sac the Aegis, you will be past the point where it could apply.

Ooh I’m sure with a bigger budget it can do nasty things

The same issue with linked abilities exists where you need to have it in the yard beforehand either way. That can also only kill one player and requires you to not have summoning sickness. This combo used to see play with Necrotic Ooze since that only took activated abilities.

No. If it said 'whenever enchanted creature attacks make a attacking angel' you would, but instead it says 'enchanted creature has "when this creature attacks make an attacking angel"'. Because of that, the creature has the trigger to make the angel so it will enter under that creature's controller's control.

@seandun7083 ooooh, thank you <3

You got a lot of it right though!

Should or not it is. They don't really make abilities like that without making them linked.

What do you mean by a stack interrupt?

I wish Planewide Celebration was mono white

I've thought about it, but it's a bit tough to meet that requirement

I have a version of this deck that uses Mechtitan. It's pretty solid when I draw it.

Scrapbasket doesnt work since Happily Ever After needs the condition met at the beginning of upkeep which I wouldn't be able to activate Scrapbasket by then. Mechtitan Core I've considered, it's a bit tough since the deck currently doesn't have many artifact creature or vehicles

@keepingitcasualmtg I'm not trying to say I know rules better than you do, 'cause you are something else, but I think when Happily Ever After's ability triggers, you just activate Scrapbasket's ability and by the time Happily's ability resolved, Scrapbasket would already be 5 colors. No?

​@@enricobrasilHappily Ever After has an intervening if clause. It won't trigger at the upkeep at all unless you already have all 5 colors, and there's no point to activate it at the start of your turn before you miss the trigger

I cheated thats why 😆😆 I didn't realize it said "another"

@@keepingitcasualmtg oh HAHA

Sphinx of the Guildpact isn't legal in the deck. It's got a character defining ability that makes it not legal outside of 5 color decks. Scuttlemutt also doesn't work since Happily Ever After's condition needs to be met BEFORE the time of triggering. I wouldn't have the opportunity to activate it before the trigger.

@keepingitcasualmtg Actually, you could run Sphinx Of The Guildpact since there are no Mana symbols on to denote it being all colors, just a worded text. It would be like running a fetch land that could fetch either a Mountain or Plains card in a deck that only runs one or the other. Nor is there a symbol in the type box that denotes this creature as all colors. Just a line of text that says this creature is all colors. Based on the logic of running a card like Misty Rainforest in a deck that runs either blue or green, but not the other, you should be able to run Sphinx Of The Guildpact in a mono color deck.

​You can't include Sphinx of the Guildpact for the same reason you can't include Westvale Abbey. Color indicators and characteristic-defining abilities work at all times, in all zones (including deck construction). Also, one scuttlemutt can get you all five colors. It doesn't have to change something to be monocolored. The problem is just that you can't use scuttlemutt before Happily Ever After resolves because it won't trigger at all if you don't already have all 5

Lost Mines of Phandelver makes 1/1 red goblins, theres a few things that make 1/1 mercenaries, and "for mirrodin" cards

Abilities are on linked if they were printed on the same piece of cardboard, so ones it gains from cloaning or ability granting effects won't be linked to ones from other sources. 406.6: An object may have one ability printed on it that causes one or more cards to be exiled, and another ability that refers either to "the exiled cards" or to cards "exiled with [this object]." These abilities are linked: the second refers only to cards that have been exiled due to the first. See rule 607, "Linked Abilities." 607.1: An object may have two abilities printed on it such that one of them causes actions to be taken or objects or players to be affected and the other one directly refers to those actions, objects, or players. If so, these two abilities are linked: the second refers only to actions that were taken or objects or players that were affected by the first, and not by any other ability.

@seandun7083 then i guess we can't give graphed exoskeleton for Effects anymore As thats an "Action" that "effects an object/player" and "another" effect that refers to that "Action/object/player" This reads worse then the "2nd main phase" stuff they tried to pull. Except not only is it grammatically incorrect, it actively conflicts with how other interactions would work.

@@Lightmagician60 wait, what do you mean? "Whenever Grafted Exoskeleton becomes unattached from a permanent, sacrifice that permanent" is all one ability. It doesn't have any linked abilities. An example of a card 607.1 applies to would be Pithing Needle. If you Sorcerous Spyglass naming Prodigal Sorcerer and then True Polymorph it into a Pithing Needle, the new needle won't see the name picked by the old spyglass.

@seandun7083 infect....

It doesn't care about "the creature you targeted with it's equip ability" it just cares about the creature it's currently equipped to.

Bennie Bracks sounds like an interesting option 🤔 There are some advantages of Oketra allowing me to remove most of the clunky "black" options and the issue I had with Nadaar was that the deck was not great at defending itself with these junky little off white tokens. The 4/4 bodies are pretty formidable and add to being able to defend myself, which also helps me to keep a high life total. I'd be interested in seeing a list with Bennie though

Bennie sounds really smart. The deck does nothing but make tokens for days, and getting enough cards to find your colors and win con is a big deal

Haha I considered this, but felt that it's a bit too slow

The hope is I can make the blue tokens and teferi's protection out keeping happily ever after and the board protected, and then win on my upkeep.

I found it easier to get blue tokens in white than the other colors

Won't work bc it's all colors, in addition mono color deck

Two, actually, but color identity rules restrict them to 5c decks.

Yeah the contention I've had with this deck is that it's quite good at winning as a token deck, but it feels weird to make the deck "worse" just to win with Happily Ever After. I do want to prioritize Happily Ever After though. That said I've considered True Conviction for the deck since it gains me a ton of life

​​@@keepingitcasualmtgThe "I wish my deck was worse so HEA was more viable" is real. That's the main reason I was so on board with my version of the deck, because the tiny baby tokens made by my big pile of noncreatures are significant enough to make attacking me unprofitable, but probably not good enough to directly win the game. I still think Sram with an emphasis on off-color equipment and vehicles might be optimal if you wanna get there with HEA, since that digs for it the best and doesn't over-support the board, but I still like Adrian as a board reset and general protection.

thank you I appreciate that

Equipping is sorcery speed so only if they do so before they get the 7th Thrull. Of course if anyone has a kill spell they can use that to stop it.

I need to find one is the issue!