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WR450F **Uncorked** Live Review
Live review - meaning feel what I feel in the moment - as I take my 2022 WR450F on its first ride after uncorking it. This was a new GYTR ECU, opened the intake and exhaust up. You might notice that my riding style was a little "overdramatic" on the throttle, only because I kept trying to see what the bike would offer me if I asked for a handful.. Well the bike delivers just that... a handful...
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Factory Corked WR450F 2022
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Hot take on the new Yamaha - I talk about how it feels from the showroom floor. 3rd ride on the factory corked WR450F - Throttle stop removed. Feels like a torquey 250f, but without being able to rev high, the power falls flat on the top end.
Lets Talk WR450F (Single Track)
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Poker Run 2022. Talking about the 2022 WR450F and how it performs in the wooded single track.
Oregon Single Track DRZ400
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A quick ride up into the hills from home. Having a street legal DRZ400 is an awesome tool to have in the shed. She may be a bit husky, but she still throws down when you ask it to.
Trx4 River Adventure
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This is one of many adventures that Damien and I take our Trx4 Crawlers onto. But now, with my GoPro Hero 10, and a video program, I'll be documenting them a lot more! enjoy. Our Traxxas Trx4 rock crawlers have been with us for a few years now, taken to many beaches and trails, rivers and lakes. The Trx4 is the perfect companion on hiking trails, as it adds a whole lot more fun to your outdoor ...
Excellent video, I bought a 2023 brand new and I asked about the gytr ecu and the dealer told me don’t worry about it, it has the ecu installed and he helped me load the maps on my phone right there and showed me how it works so I assume that is the gytr ecu and ccu
yeah you got lucky, those are not from factory. roughly $800 in items. I got the GYTR ECU ($200) and the MAP switch ($100) but still haven’t got the CCU ($500) The CCU is what WiFI connects to your phone so you can do the tuning.
@@evanwilliams6352 but I also heard the AUS spec bike comes like that, you just have to remove throttle screw and the restictor in thr airbox. From what side of the world are you?
@@johnwhatley6358 yes I heard the same thing, so if you’re in AUS or NZ then i think you’re good. Im in the US.
@@evanwilliams6352 its sad that the US spec you have to spend a bit of money to get the real deal out of it, I am in South Africa and we also get the AUS version this side
@@johnwhatley6358 that’s nice to know that you’re getting the better version. It’s definitely a “hidden gem” around here. Since they’re “Corked” from factory people turn their heads away from buying one. It makes sense that they do. I did my research on it before buying so i knew i would get a great bike out of it. But there are very few around here that i know of, and i’m part of a big facebook group of riders. That is actually the reason for this video, as I had a hard time finding information.
Good review
Thanks
I have the 2023 wr250f fully uncorked I’m buying the 450 next month the 250 you need to stay up in the rpm’s abit more but yha it’s for the open logging roads and fire roads and hills I want the 450 . Hell yeah, I agree with you. The WRs are an absolutely amazing bike. Both the 250 and the 450. The weight on the bikes you don’t really notice unless you stop or fall
I'd like to try out a modern 250f - it's been a while. You definitely need to stay on top of them a bit more than a 450... however... just because a 450 has more low down torque doesn't mean you should ride it low rpm. You're still at risk of stalling without good clutch control. It's also pretty hard on engine components torquing it like that. I'd suggest to keep the RPM's up like you do on your 250, you'll find it to be smooth.
The other thing I did for slow and technical terrain as I turned the idle up about 200 RPM it’s not very much but it helps when you’re in the slow technical stuff big time
Yes this can help you quite a bit to resist stalling. I don't personally do it as I hardly ever stall the bike, but it's a trick for the people who struggle... Backstory. growing up a lot of my bikes wouldn't hardly idle at all (and barely start) so I had to get really good at clutch / throttle control at all times, I suppose that's helped me big time in the long run.
That branch almost took you out at 11:48
Haha yes just about. Wouldn't be the first time either. I'm sure you've been there yourself! Thanks for watching!
I have a 2011 CRF450R with a rekluse clutch. How would yours compare???
been a while since I run a CRF450. I rode a 2018 CRF450RX not long ago and a 2004 CRF450R a while back. Both of those bikes were quite different (as I would assume they would be) The suspension on yours is going to be quite a bit stiffer, causing you to bounce off of little rocks and roots that would be absorbed instead. This helps keep your tire on the ground and remain in traction. if its too stiff all day it will tire you out faster. However the WR isn't so soft as to be running low in the stroke, it's actually quite a lot stiffer that a lot of guys will run their 300 2 strokes. In my opinion though, those are too soft and don't allow you to be an aggressive rider. I think the biggest difference that you're going to have is in the clutch itself. Ive ridden a CRF250X with a recluse and it changed the bike completely. Once you're up and moving the bike felt mostly "like itself" but gear changes and aggressive clutch actions to upset the bike the way you need to sometimes were just not there. I'd say because of your clutch, I can't really compare yours to mine. The biggest issues that 450 riders have in tight woods is the likelihood of stalling, and how you need to operate the bike to keep it going forward. Your 450R is going to have a really tall 1st gear which would have you slipping the clutch all day to keep it running, where the WR has a 1st gear that is almost half of your 1st, so it makes tighter stuff much more enjoyable. I did find that the CRF450X that I rode would stall super easy, any sort of load just above idle would stall it (one time in mid air on a little vertical bank jump) however it could have been old gas as he didn't ride often, so I don't want to discredit the bike for that.
Good video, finally a review corked up!
I remember trying to find a video about it before I bought it and couldn't find anything, everyone always jumps to uncorking it, and then saying how much better it was compared to being corked... but without a video of the bike being corked you really had nothing to compare it to? So I made this video.
@@evanwilliams6352 Exactly!
I’ve always loved two strokes I have two euro 250s in my shed but have purchased a 2022 Wr 450 and I gravitate to it . The traction it has is superb. Love this bike👍
You know, I try to be a 2 stroke fanboy (I've had a few 2 strokes - still have my 2000 RM 250) but I always seem to gravitate to this bike as well.. it's just soooo good! hard to explain unless you ride it for a day. Everyone has their own riding style and preference, but I feel like this bike adapts to whoever wants to ride it, it's just a great bike, honestly.
I love mine
Saw an older video of yours on a DRZ400E...how does it compare in single track to the WR? I have a DRZ and have been looking hard at the '24 WR...
the DRZ took a lot more input and wrangling to get it to do what you wanted it to do, but it would throw down if you asked it to. The DRZ is a heavier bike with less power, but still plenty for most things. The WR is a much more aggressive and responsive bike in comparison, but it's way harder to find its limits (if it even has any) compared to the DRZ. The DRZ is softer suspension, so it'll try to blow through a corner or wash out as it'll be way higher in the stroke, where as the WR holds its form way better. Also, I found that first gear was close to the same (DRZ might have been a touch taller) but 4th on the WR isn't much sorter than the DRZ 5th - and the WR still has a tall 5th gear. I honestly never get to 5th as I'm always on single track, and even if I find myself on a windy gravel road 5th is a bit luggy, so it's probably great for straighter fire roads.
@@evanwilliams6352 I feel like I’m in between the two. I tried the wr250f and felt it was slow. The DRZ is marginally better in terms of engine power. What if I left the wr450 corked? Would that make it more manageable?
@@nosyjoe I would say that a corked 450f does feel kinda similar to the DRZ400. It still had good torque down low where not a lot of air flow was needed, but fell flat in the mid - upper RPM due to the restricting airbox and exhaust. A DRZ is a bit flat on top as it's a long stroke cylinder and doesn't like to rev like a modern short stroke race bike does. I haven't ridden a modern 250f (ridden plenty of carbureted ones) but I bet it felt slow because you were probably trying to use the torque of the motor to drive you. a 250F needs to be rung out like a 2 stroke, high rpm, and once you're there they pull pretty hard.
i just bought a 2008 wr450f things fun af i dont have a fan tho so it overheats on trails like this.
Adding a fan is quite necessary for tight single track. There were only a couple spots on these trails where a fan would be nice, but not necessary. But when it gets tighter, rocky and technical it's absolutely necessary. it's possible that you might need to richen your A/F mixture to cool it down if its running too hot even with some airflow. If your bike is popping a lot on decel you know it's running a bit too lean. Either way, get a fan. Keeping your engine cooler and not overheating will greatly extend the life of your engine.
@@evanwilliams6352 i think you're completely right it does pop when i let off gas ill have to see where its at and give it an adjustment.
The new 24' must be really nice then.
It probably is 👍 I don’t think you need an ECU on those, simply uncork them.
What ecu do I need to uncork my 2023 wr450? I want to eventually get an fmf system but I just want to uncork it and have it not run lean
I don't have the part number handy, but it is the GYTR ECU which works in the YZ450F and FX. The 2023 WR is similar to the (I want to say 2018 - 2022 YZ-F and 2019 - 2023 YZ-FX) I had called my local dealer and had them order it up for me.
Where did you get the new ECU from?
I called the dealer that I purchased the bike from, they ordered it for me, took about 2 weeks. Keep in mind this was 2 years ago. Powermotorsports.com
i ride the same bike and find it perfect for what youre doing. kind of off topic question but, how do you keep the front end up in jumps. whether its on the motorcross track or just in trails i keep nosing in jumps ?
I've never been big into motocross but I have gone to the tracks and have built big jumps in the past. (before I took an 8 year hiatus - I don't really jump anymore) biggest tip I could give you is to look where you're heading. Stay on the throttle while exiting the jump, either a consistent throttle or accelerating (blip) off of the jump lip. If you let off of the throttle you'll slow down and nose dive. This is why looking at your destination (where you're going to land - or where you think it might be 😅) is so important. When you come to the tip of the jump and you find yourself staring at the peak and not where you're going to end up, you'll naturally let of the throttle, which then throws your weight forward. The issue intensifies if you let off of the throttle as soon as the front tire leaves the jump, the rear tire will slow down significantly and act as a pivot point which drops the front end down. Try practicing on little bumps in the road (say a foot tall) and notice how your bike reacts to throttle inputs when you go over the bump. (keep in mind speed has a lot to do with your outcome) if you stay consistent over the bump what happens? if you let off at the last second what happens? if you give the bike a little blip what happens? try these on the same bump at different speeds and see how the bike reacts.
@@evanwilliams6352 wow that is such helpful advice i appreciate it heaps mate. ill be sure to put that into effect and find out what happens with my bike when put under different conditions. this was very helpful. thanks so much again
@@rorylah absolutely! I love helping teach those who are willing to listen. Remember body positioning is hugely important as well. Stand up with good posture, arms and knees bent. You'll notice that a horse jockey's body stays still and in control as his horse violently moves around underneath him.
@@evanwilliams6352 what a great analogy! i understand what you mean, thanks for that too. i can tell youre very knowledgable about this subject
What a champ for leaving in dumping it and not editing it out haha
I thought it was funny 😆
@@evanwilliams6352 I enjoyed it haha. Might buy a used 2013 WR450F in a few weeks and idk if I even need to uncork it after watching this vid lol your reaction was priceless
@@oldtownscouts3712 I'm not as familiar with the older bikes, and how "corked" they are in comparison to being uncorked, but I'm sure it's still plenty of power for most people. ( it was hard to tell in the video where I crashed and why, but there was a little stump about 4" round and 6" out of the ground that would have thrown my front tire way off course if I had hit it. so when I swerved, I threw my line off and my balance to avoid hitting the tree😅)
I'm considering a 2019 one of these as here in the UK there is a lot of green lanes which connect up with roads so I have to wring the neck of my current 2012 te250 4 stroke between the lanes. Also find I'm up and down the gears all the time as the ratios are quite close. I think the wr450 is probably a bit more power than I need though but with the adjustable maps etc being able to tame it sounds a winning combo, my other choice is Beta 350/390rr.. You also make the WR look effortless but I think your riding ability is probably above 95% of people who watch this, when the front end is coming off the ground, looks you could wheelie it for days lol.
I had went with the 450 as I needed the headroom for hillclimbs and dunes riding. 250's are fun an probably plenty or (enough) for most riders honestly. The Wr's aren't road legal out of the box over here, but if they are where you are in the UK then it's going to be a great choice.
Great to watch. but you have not made it easy for me, on what bike to buy. I'm looking at even the 250 but you're making it look easy to buy the 450, the fuel is a problem, but great to watch you anywhere I would think.
it really depends on what you want to do with it. I'm a sucker for hill climbs, that's where a 250f fails for me... but I think most other places, if you live in flatter (or at least less aggressive terrain) and perhaps you're less experienced, go for the 250. There weren't any gnarly hills in this video as it was an event, so they didn't lead the trail into places where people couldn't make it. But when I'm out with my buddies we'll find some good ones.
I really like your video. Excellent job and thank you for posting it. Earlier this year I shopped for a new 2023 WR450F, but I ended up getting a new 2023 YZ450FX because I got a lot better deal on it from another dealer. I bought a new take off WR450F exhaust and put it on my bike tonight. I have watched your video about 3 times so far. This is my first 450. I have owned a WR250F and three YZ250F new bikes.
Thanks for watching 👍 I rode with a guy the other day that had a 2022 YZ450FX and he loved his bike as well. This is the first 450 that I've owned as well (I've ridden them a handful of times before this though) most of the riding I do I'm surrounded by 300 2T bikes, so I'd say this 450 holds its own quite well out there.
I ride an YZ250F from 2018, added two radiator fans and a scooter battery because sometimes I do the rocky hard stuff. Other than not having electric start, I wouldn’t change anything on it. I still own a two stroke KTM, but absolutely felt in love for this four stoke YZ.
Interesting I didn't realize that a 2018 was old enough to not have an electric start. Must have just missed it. It's funny that you run dual fans, I was considering doing that and had looked into it but didn't see anyone else doing it. The way I see it is if you can keep the engine in its optimal operating temps you'll prolong the life of the motor. I'm going to look into it more now 👍 It's amazing I've even watched video's where people are flat out against radiator fans because they can drain the battery... which is nonsense as the motor generates electricity to run the fans as the motor is running... it's like saying you don't want to use the lights in your truck as it draws power from the battery.. Anyways I hear ya, I'm a sucker for the 4 stroke power, but keep in mind my backup bike is a 2000 RM250 which is way more "2 stoke at heart" than the modern 2 strokes are... I honestly think that the modern 4 strokes are a closer resemblance to old school 2 strokes - whereas modern 2 strokes are like super lightweight "oldschool" 4 strokes. I feel like they reversed roles. I've owned many oldschool 4 strokes and never cared for them, the older 2 strokes were way more exciting.. Now in current times the 4 strokes are way more lively and the 2 strokes kinda feel sluggish (even though they do absolutely rip) but you have to ask it to do so. Wow, I'm blabbering on.. Sorry about that haha.
Great video and info👍
thanks! its almost riding season around here again, I'll be hitting this event up again.
How much did the ecu run you?
the ECU was $200 and the map switch was another $100
I love love this bike. Will be my next one. I just need to sell my KTM 690. Thanks for sharing
It's a blast of a bike, and all the other 450's I've tried in the woods this one is best suited for it. I recommend this bike. It's almost riding season again, I'll try to find the time to make more videos of the bike.
The same goes for the 2023 250f totally changes the bike
I bet It does, I wonder how much it affects the 450f compared to the 250f
@@evanwilliams6352 a lot I’d say I drove mine when it was it had all the restrictions still on the bike and it was like a tt 250 gutless
@@rezkidgamingyt4725 I bet, the 450 wasn't necessary "Gutless" but for a modern 450 it was. the 450 has more headroom than a 250f though, so I could imagine a 250 being pretty docile.
@@evanwilliams6352 it’s is but when you are at 12000 rpm the bike rips the 2023 revs to 16000 rpm I really need the fmf exaust plus I’m just a small guy 160 lbs soaking wet lol
@@rezkidgamingyt4725 I'd like to get the FMF as well, but mostly only for the looks, I wouldn't need it for the power. The stock pipe is a bit bulky, I like how the FMF tucks in nicely.
Beautiful place to ride. Anywhere like that here in England would be soooooo illegal to ride. They'd throw you and the next 10 generations of your family in jail for blasting that kinda place.
Sorry to hear it. This video was actually all on Private Property (which isn't the same in the UK as it is here) but they've kept it an oasis for dirt bikers, they throw big rides / events all the time. Summer gets too hot to ride and risk of fires, but spring and fall are perfect times to ride around here.
I want one. It's either a WR450 or a Renault Sport Clio 200 (European hot hatch, UK) I'm single, no kids. Rural area. I'm leaning towards this (WR)
I guess it depends if you already have a car to drive. Cars are fun too, but bikes are a different kind of fun for sure.
@@evanwilliams6352 They are. Plus with a bike like a WR, you can go almost anywhere and at high velocity>
I ride a 2015 wr450 right know, I notice almost a light knock in the Bottom of 2nd and 3rd only at low rpm's, checked and changed the auto cam chain tensioner, replaced with a manual, but that's not it, not sure what it is yet?
when you ride a 4 stroke at the lowest RPM while applying some load to the engine you will hear some noise, as the computer would start advancing the timing a bit as you apply throttle, but the RPM's are still too low to take advantage of that. The cycle then "fights itself" and creates a huge spike in pressure (usually this is when you stall) It's also possible that your spark plug has some buildup on it, creating hot spots and "dieseling"... a loose timing chain is more of a rattle, or crackling sound, rather than a knocking sound. Keep your oil changed frequently and don't use old gas.
Can I ask where you are riding? These trails look really fun.
I'm in Southern Oregon 👍
@@evanwilliams6352 Awesome! I'm just in Portland. Is that an actual ohv riding area or private property? Would love to check it out! You've got my brother interested in a Wr450 now and that's after he just bought a '23 KTM 350 lol. I've got a '08 wr250f that I'm almost done rebuilding and going to need to break it in.
@@sethw1230 its BLM, but you kinda need to know how it get in. the spot I get in I have to park at my bosses place and ride up the hill, but I have to be careful not to make tracks otherwise others might see it and come down into his property. honestly I don't know where other people are getting in, as there isn't really a "parking lot" to start from. you kinda need to know a guy. Honestly I'd love to have a 350 size, as a 450 is a lot of bike at times, I keep it on "mild" most of the day. I love my WR though, it does everything so well. it's a very well rounded bike.
Hey man, love your videos. I have a question. Would you recommend a Factory Corked WR450F to a beginner since it acts like a 250?
I'm leaning towards saying no, I think a WR250F might still be the better way to go. This depends on what you'd like to do with the bike though. I don't know anyone with a WR250F but I have a feeling that the 450F takes a bigger hit on power being corked than the 250f would, as the corking is the same but the 250f already breathes less due to its size anyways. I haven't had the chance lately to try a more modern 250F but have ridden quite a few in the past. If you're new to riding a 250f is plenty of bike (I'm not new to riding and I still almost went for the 250f honestly) reason being is that modern 450's have a ridiculous amount of power these days, which will hinder you as a rider if you're not prepared for it, and even if you get used to it as a new rider it'll be your crutch to rely on that power when you ride a bike with less. I think a WR250F would be best for a new rider, it's going to be tamer and easier to control, this will help you build confidence and skill as a rider. Once you feel that the corked 250F isn't enough power you can uncork it and it would be a bump in power, and honestly enough for most riders. It could take you years to outgrow that power. Perhaps by then you could go up to a bigger bore, or you'll have ridden enough and made some friends who have 450's and could try theirs.
@@evanwilliams6352 that was really helpful man, thanks for taking the time and sharing your insights, I appreciate it 🙏
I think it’s more like old school 2t motoX bikes are not designed to ride trails this making them hard to ride slow.
they're definitely hard to ride slow 😅 but super fun to ride fast
I've got the '05 WR450F carbureted and totally opened up with all the free mods and street legal its a beautiful beast but am thinking about a '23 and just adding the Tusk kit adding a few lights making that street legal to.. Im in Nevada and afraid the '23 would be to goverened down and restricted.. Can you tell me specifically real quick what I would need to do to totally uncork it to 100%...👍👍
To uncork a current WR - you need to remove the air restricter in the air box (it uses soft plastic rivets so it breaks off with your bear hands) you need to remove the dB reducer in the tailpipe (drill out two rivets) and you need to buy the GYTR ECU $200 which comes with a shorter throttle stop screw so you maximize throttle movement (or you can just cut the factory screw shorter which is what I did, because I rode the bike for 10hours "corked" while I waited for the ECU to arrive, but I wanted full throttle motion) the ECU is located under the gas tank and mounted to the backside of the air box (as the air box is now on the top/front of the bike), it's a pretty simple procedure.
@@evanwilliams6352 Okay much appreciated those things are pretty much the consensus I'm seeing. Doing those things could make things lean, will the Gytr ECM balance the gas/air mixture because there is no carb or jets to adjust on Fuel injected now especially if you do a pipe also etc,,,
@@seatime674 I didn't uncork the bike until I got he GYTR ECU as I was worried about the same things, the stock ECU is already a bit lean as it is. opening up the air box will only make it leaner, so I waited. the only thing that I did was shorten the throttle screw when it was still corked and factory ECU. I uncorked everything the day I put the GYTR ECU in it.
@@evanwilliams6352 Did the Gytr Ecu come with beginner/advanced map button for the handle bars I was wondering how that worked to tell what map you're in by pushing a button...
@@seatime674 I paid an extra $100 for the MAP switch, it simply plugs into the wiring harness (there's a plug that's located on the left side of the head stem where you can plug it in) the GYTR ECU is preloaded with 2 maps, I call them "Mild" and "Wild" the switch will glow blue or be off - these are your two map options. I haven't gotten the WiFi module yet to actually tune the two maps, but I will get it one day.
I appreciate this.
I appreciate you
Great review and nice to see it alongside the Beta. I ride similar terrain and am considering the 2022 or 2023 WR450F. I enjoy the low end lugging ability and, of course, Yamaha's amazing reliability and full KYB's
You hit the nail on the head, they have a huge amount of torque on the bottom, as long as you're on the gas even a little it'll keep going. 4 strokes don't have the same low end "basement" where they'll continue to run below the idle point, but it's a huge amount of power just off idle. Also yes, I can't get behind the KTM products as easily as a Japanese bike, the europeans just don't build in the same reliability as the Japanese do.
I just brought one great bike
@@brianshannon9289 did you snag the Yamaha? or what did you purchase?
@@evanwilliams6352 purchased it
Hey Evan, I know you mentioned that you have the (2022 YZ450FX) GYTR ECU for your bike. Did you purchase and install it yourself? And did it come stock with the two "mild and wild" tunes you are referring to? I just got a 2021 WR450f and I find the stock tune is a bit much for me in tight technical terrain. I was hoping I could avoid buying the CCU and just get away with the GYTR ECU and the control switch. Thanks!
Yes I have the GYTR ECU (not sure exactly what model, I bought it from the dealer - I'm assuming it's for the FX) yes I installed it myself and the map switch, I did not get the WiFi module yet.. the ecu comes with x2 pre loaded maps that you can access with the map with "mild" and "wild" is what I call them. I "Uncorked" my bike when I installed the new Ecu, so that in itself would have given me loads more power in itself, but it didn't want to uncork the bike until I had that new ECU, I was concerned that it was already running pretty lean, I didn't want to add even more air to the mix. if your bike is still corked and stock ECU then you're going to get a wake up call once you uncork it and change the ECU, it'll be way more of a handful than it currently is. To answer your question - yes, you can just buy the ECU by itself and it'll be in one map, buying the switch allows you to access the second map already uploaded, and buying the CCU allows you to tune those maps as you please.
What is the part number for the GYTR ECU? Thanks!
#BDB-E9500-V0-00
@@andrewmcshane7224 its a good question! I'll have to find the paperwork or take the tank off to read the ECU.
@@andrewmcshane7224 that part number seems correct when searching the internet.
Would like to see what your mild map looks like to try it with my 2012-Thanks for the video and narration 11:24
I would like to see what it looks like too, I don't have the WiFi module to link to my phone, not yet anyways. It'll likely be something I purchase this year. Perhaps there are photos or videos on the internet of what the GYTR ecu maps look like from factory, as I haven't changed the maps.
There’s a bunch of mild maps on the forums for the 2012. Never had a problem with the popular maps for the 2012 model. Usually ran it on aggressive though.
Is there a set up to instal kick start on one of these??? Only reason I have not pulled the trigger
Unfortunately no, they've changed the casing, it will no longer accept a kick starter.
Great vid! I just bought a 22' wr450f and I'm having trouble finding parts. This might be a stupid question but do you know if it's the same as the 2020? I ask because some of the sites for parts only go to 2020 for the WR450. Seems like the gytr ecu and fmf exhaust are all OOS on the sites I've looked at. Thanks!
The 2021 - 2023 WR450F are the same, but (I believe) the 2018 - 2022 YZ450f and likely 2019 - 2023 YZ450FX are all going to share many similar parts. The GYTR ECU that I have is for the 2022 YZ450FX I believe (I called my local Yamaha dealer and they got it for me) If you're buying a pipe, all the years that I listed should work just fine on your bike 👍
@@evanwilliams6352 thanks Evan, super helpful!
Great footage and awesome insight. Looking at the fx vs wr..
thanks man. The difference isn't a whole lot really... the gearing is apparently the same. The WR comes with the headlight, tail light, speedo, fuel consumption meter, rad fan, Spark arrestor, softer valving in the suspension. But remember that it comes "corked" so you'll likely want to uncork it and get the GYTR ECU ($300 for the ECU and MAP switch - another $300 for the WiFi module) The FX will be "uncorked" from factory with the GYTR stuff ($600 worth of stuff) but if you're wanting some of the stuff that the WR comes with you'll likely spend more money getting it to that point. I plan on putting plates on mine soon so I can legally get to some of the riding areas.. so everything that the WR comes with I would have had to install on an FX later on, so the WR made more sense to me.
John's peak?
Yes it is 👍
What’s your height and weight Evan? I’m 5’9” 185 lbs. you think it’s too much for a guy my size?
I'm 6' 200 / 205lbs it really depends on what kind of rider (and how much seat time) you have. I always tell people to stay away from a 450 as they're just way too much for so many people - a 250 is honestly a much better bike. I've been riding for a long time and hill climbs is one of my go to activities on a bike, so a 450 was the better choice for me... however, in saying that. 90% of my riding would be a blast even on a 250, for example this video that we are commenting on. However... being that this bike was "corked" from factory, it was somewhat comparable to a 250f (I bet a yz250f has more power than a stock WR450f) but once you uncork it and put the GYTR ECU in it is a fire breathing 450f (this bike is uncorked in this video) - I read that you gain roughly 20HP after uncorking) so if you are "less" experienced and you never uncork it, the 450 could be a good choice, but you'll likely be better off on a 250 and uncork it. Or maybe swing for the YZ250FX. It's a long topic and I could talk forever about it 😅 450's have too much power and it'll scare newer riders, and even if they do get used to it, the power will become their Achilles Heel and won't do well on other bikes or situations where technique is needed. I strongly believe that "less is more" but it is nice to have....
@@evanwilliams6352 good stuff thank you sir!
I’ve been doing a ton of trail riding on my T7 and posting videos regularly. I’ve wanted to add a WR to the garage alongside it though for a few months now just for the more ‘knarly’ days and also just so I have the confidence to try more technical stuff. This video has not helped that itch one bit 😂😂 Hopefully this year I can pick one up 🙏🏼 Fair play and enjoy
I would love to have a T7! you'll love the WR if you decide to get one. They're quite capable machines, I take mine on all the rides when everyone has their 300 2t out, not an issue for me. Check out my other video "can a WR450F single track?" I talk a bit more about how the bike performs 😁
@@evanwilliams6352 Nice one, I will check that out. What I’m ideally looking for is something that handles single track a bit better. If you watch any of my own videos you’ll know what I mean 😂. The T7 is such a fantastic machine though, for what it is it handles so much so bloody well. But the WR will hopefully be obtained this year 🤞🏼
@@motorbikediaries I'll take a look at your videos!
Nice and explanatory great info
Thanks
Яйца у тебя железные 😂
Looking for opinions here. I've been out of a bike for about 4 years now and looking to get back into it. I see you mentioned you're 6' 200ish. I'm about 6'2 240lbs and have been on the fence between a wr450 vs a ktm 300xcw. My concern is my physical weight. I don't want to be bogged down, but kind of feel like the 450 might be "too much". Is a 450 too much, or is the 300xcw plenty?
I haven't had a chance to have a "good ride" on a 300 yet, only for a few minutes down the trail, and same with this Beta 300, it was a brief experience. I found them to be very luggable and it's easy to keep them running at low speeds, but they'll hammer down if you ask them to. I felt like both of them you really had to ask it from them to get them to really move though, meaning you really had to twist the throttle a long ways to open them up. (this makes them very predictable however) which is funny as I'm used to riding 250 2 stroke race bikes in the woods and the throttles on those bikes are like light switches. The WR450F isn't quite as much of a light switch as the old school 2 strokes, but definitely way snappier and and a huge amount of low end torque, but you still need to be ready on the clutch if you're near the idle RPM of the motor. To answer your question - I'll start off first by saying that I wouldn't worry about your height or weight, these bikes RIP If you're a good rider and have been riding for a long time then a 450 is a good choice, but only if you're experienced, otherwise a 450 is way too much for most people. A lot of people buy a 450 because they are actually easier to ride that low rpm grunt compared to a lot of other bikes, but if you grab a handful of throttle they are literally rocket ships, which should never be in the possession of a newer rider. It'll scare them and won't allow them to have any fun, or they'll get used to having the power do the work for them. If you're still somewhat new to riding then id suggest the 250 if you're looking towards a 4 stroke. however, I run this bike in "mild" all day, it definitely dulls it down on the bottom half and makes it much easier to ride, way less wheel spin and arm ripping acceleration. a modern 300 2 stroke has loads of power for anyone, but I find it to be tame enough that even a newer rider can handle it just fine. You won't stall near as much and won't have to be ready on the clutch near as often in low speed technical situations. I see WAY more 300 2 strokes on my trails than any 4 stroke these days. It's likely the way to go (but I can't get myself to move away from Japanese bikes)
Did you remove the throttle limiter?
First thing I did
@evanwilliams6352 so the video showing it corked was without the throttle screw but the other things still in place Did you ride it with the screw in at all and if so, what was it like?
@@terrythompson448 I rode it around the block. Then I brought it in and made the mods. It would have been unridable off-road.
The shop I bought from uncorked it for me. Not as loud as I had expected.
Mostly air box noise
Absolutely it can , now does it take more energy to ride than a real trail bike like a 250 or 300 2 stroke thats tune for lower RPM use with nice soft suspension, yep.
The KYB suspension is super nice. And it's softer setup than a track bike. After riding last weekend with 5 other KTM's and one guy was a small time suspension Guru, talking to everyone about suspension setup, possible rebuilds to make them better for their riding style, Lucky cartridges, air forks sticking etc. then pointed at my bike and said "but you just can't beat the KYB setups from factory, you're good to go".. I might play around with it, go softer, then harder, see how I like it. Otherwise I don't feel like I need to touch it at all.
@@evanwilliams6352 i pretty much take it as a given that all bikes need springs and valving to be correct for most riders. Even really good suspension like your kyb is seldom set up for the rider weight and ridding skill level and what kind of ridding he or she is doing.
The way some desribe gearing... nvm
I know right, sometimes you have to explain it in a way just so people can get upset about it
have u ridden the crf450rl?
No I have not, I don't know anyone with one either. They look to be pretty sweet bikes. From the videos I've seen they'd be softer than the WR-F, but being that it's street legal out the gate, they'd make a great all around bike. Wouldn't necessarily be my go to bike if you're doing a lot of woods riding, but if you don't like loading up a bike to hit the trails, the Honda would be a great fit.