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Had a unit of Starscythe in here but wanted to rock the 3rd Broadside unit. It may come back in with more testing.

I ran the Fireknives with missles for a while. Enjoyed the rerolls to hit, but didnt like the damage output for the cost. The crisis suits need a commander which inscreases the cost and I wanted the extra points for more stealths and infantry.

I have been a big fan of ghostkeels this edition. Most of my list have had at least one in them. They are a bit pricey and don't have the greatest damage output so using them to perform actions is a bit of a feels bad. I think they are way better in Kauyon and RT where buffs and stragems work better for the datasheet.

@@Woundedon6s Thanks, those are very good reasons. Thematically I love the ghostkeel and am still adjusting to the riptides being viable and very strong. I'm really enjoying seeing your lists and thorough explanations of your thought process! Looking forward to more videos!

@@jazzj2 could be correct. I like to start my process with a strategy first units that fit that strategy second and then adjust accordingly. And yes I do wanna make them work as I think k they unlock something tau does not have.

Thanks for watching. I only have 2 units of breachers with a strike team I could use as a proxy. I do not have a 3rd Devilfish, which I feel is essential for running breachers due to their short range.

@@Woundedon6stry 1 breacher in reserve and ingress them For free (stealth suits). Its awesome .

Basalt Grey, Neutral and Sky Grey highlight, Scarlett for the orange/red all Vallejo paints.

New intro scene coming for all videos in the future.

My tau are mostly painted in Vallejo paint. basalt Gray, Neutral and sky grey, cold white and Scarlett over black primer.

@@Woundedon6s Thanks! Looks great!

This is exactly the strategy I am looking at now as well. Had a chance to speak with gentleman from the xenos petting zoo team this weekend who gave me the 411 on how to jail the jailers.

It’s Basalt Grey by Vallejo

Yo lo he derribado con kataphron breecher. También unos Kastelan robot con la estratagema superioridad mecánica lo tumban

That is actually crushed up sea shells. I call it shell mulch.

Actually just rotating the video counter clockwise would be better

problem with kroot is they dont synergize at all with retaliation cadre. they cant even spot for your units. youre better off just taking devilfish with breachers or pathfinders. two breacherfish can move a tremendous amount of firepower up the board on turn 1 or turn 2. thats hard to pass up in any tau detachment.

@@Khobai neither can krootox rampagers, I'm just suggesting the other kroot as better alternatives to the rampagers

Correct. I had that wrong when I made the video and realized my mistake after…

This is such a fun combo! I realized this too. Too bad I don't have a dunerider yet.

Hi. I discovered you while searching for Admech content. Nice video; I think the Skitarii Hunter is an interesting idea, and definitely has potential. A couple of other things to note. The 4++ on the battleline is on a model basis; any model that's wholly within 6" of the Dunecrawler gets it, which makes it easier to apply (you don't need to whole unit within 6", although you have to allocate the damage to the models that are). Also, you implied that only the Ruststalker Princep has dev wounds and precision, but the whole unit gets them (if you give them the Transonic blades, and there's no reason not to). This makes the Ruststalkers a pretty powerful unit, although, as you say, it requires the Commander Doctrina. 50 attacks, hitting on 3s, S5, AP-2, with dev wounds and precision is no joke! 😁. (I wouldn't want to be a character in a unit when they charge in...) Unfortunately I can't play for several weeks, but I'm looking forward to trying blocks of Vanguard, Ruststalkers and a Dunecrawler, on each flank, with shooting support from Breachers (with reroll hits they don't need +1 BS and the extra AP is very nice on them, and if they charge in their combat is going to be much better).

@@tonyclark6091 thank you for the ruststalker weapon clarification. I was actually use the ant-infantry razors . Which I still believe do not have dev wounds so I think k I payed it correct and phrased it incorrectly in the video.

I agree the krootox and skyray probably dont belong in the list. The pirahna should get cut too. Ghostkeel fusion is also pretty lousy anti-tank as well. Id get rid of krootox, skyray, pirahna, both ghostkeels, then bring in two more riptides and two or three missile broadsides. Missile broadsides are absolutely incredible right now.

My reasons for trying these less then meta choices is really due to the new mission layouts as I have found it hard to get reliable long range firing lanes . This makes the shooting much more close quarters. Having a good melee charge option or a lone op that can remain in one of the many terrain cubby holes the new missions have feels like a better strategic options even if the data sheet is inferior to others on the paper.

​@@Woundedon6sI just find ghostkeels a bit counterintuitive with retaliation cadre since they want to stay more than 12" away and retaliation cadre wants everything within 12". Retaliation cadre needs to play a lot like montka where you play very aggressively with your battlesuits. I think the best retaliation cadre lists put as many battlesuits in your opponents face as quickly as possible. i definitely think triptide is the way to go for that reason.

in my experience fielding both riptides and ghostkeels: both have swingy damage output, but the ghostkeel tends to live for far longer. maybe it's just bad luck on my part but I have yet to have a game where the riptide doesn't immediately fold once it has to start making invul saves. imo the ghostkeel is a little pricy, but it's a unit that forces your opponent to come out and deal with it or risk the ghostkeel scoring points all game.

​@@Reqqlesghostkeels are very easy to deal with if your opponent is just the tiniest bit aggressive though. the ghostkeel is really only good against non-aggressive opponents and those are games tau should win regardless. the ghostkeel is a unit that helps you win harder if youre already winning anyway. It doesnt help you hold the board against aggressive opponents or aggressively push back. Riptides are much better at that. Riptides statistically do over twice as much damage as ghostkeels. Id feel a lot better about ghostkeels if they were 140 points instead of 160. 160 is just way too much.

The Tripetides are great. Not doubting that for a second. But I like the ghostkeel , Ghostkeel fanboy. I think its better with changes to tank shock rules. I think its better with the new layouts. I think the points I saved giving me enhancments on my crisis suits gives me more options. I have only played 2 games with new points, maps and missions so very much a work in progress but whenever testing begins it starts with my stealthy friends.

depends on purpose. enforcer in ret cadre with with star flare is still quite mobile, but overall he's designed to sit on a point or maybe in your backline the added tank and reduced points has its perks. coldstar is great for high mobility shooting. personally, I run one of each, but overall would say coldstar is stronger and its points reflect that.

coldstar is best with sunforge. enforcer is best with fireknife. and starscythes you shouldnt even take because theyre awful and do nothing that your breachers and pathfinders dont already do better.

railgun ignores invulnerables on a 6 to wound and gets a wound reroll. which means you should completely ignore invulnerables about 30% of the time. Even if you dont ignore the invulnerable they still have a 50% chance of failing a 4+ invulnerable. Your overall odds are pretty good (~60%) of getting through an invulnerable save. As for the ion cannon, it doesnt fill the same role as the railgun at all. Theres only three (arguably four) units in tau that reliably pop vehicles. Ion hammerhead isnt one of them. And the +15 point cost makes ion hammerheads pretty bad compared to other options.

Glad it was helpful!

Think I may run 1 and 1 in my Mont'ka list.

The skyray was always better. just far more consistent damage

@@beilno2890 it wasnt always better. railgun did more damage to anything with a 2+ save like a rogal dorn. but the railguns not worth the extra 15 points now.

@@Khobai Of course some targets will be better or worse depending on many factors, But in general when you have to balance against multiple armies and what they can take the skyray will just come out on top (Like those with 4+ invuln) , or be close behind with consistent damage on those the hammerhead will be better at. The hammer head can do great damage but it is swingy. I would prefect things that can do stable damage.

They have always been better.

makes sense a strategem on a unit of 3 broadsides is 50% better than on a unit of 2 broadsides. so they make you pay more for it. they might not want people spamming 7+ broadsides either so it kindve discourages taking more than three units of 2.

Major bump up for the Retaliation Cadre!

That’s great to hear. I’m working on a Kauyon list for an RTT next weekend. Hoping the models I ordered arrive in time.

The top ranked tau list was running 3 breachefish, and a big brick of broadsides with mussels. Also they ran no crisis suits.

@@Woundedon6s crisis suits dont seem very good to me. hopefully they get a points reduction in the next balance slate. I definitely think missile broadsides are the way to go right now. I really like skyrays and ion hammerheads as well with the -1 ap strategem. railgun hammerheads just dont seem to put out enough shots and they just feel bad into horde armies.