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Bro the Celebrimbor in ROP looks like Bilbo Baggins but taller and with no arms + pointy ears.

Spelling errors galore. Fëanor, Finwë, Finarfin, Irimë, Findis, Maedhros. Morgoth was a Vala (singular. Valar is plural), not a Maia. (Maiar is plural) PS If you are going to do a video on the Silmarillion, please get your hands on the book and get the spelling and grammar right. PPS on the positive side the video wasn't bad. Fun fact. If you were to check the appendices, any character whose name starts with the letter C is pronounced K. For example, three of the sons of Fëanor are Celegorm, Caranthir and Curufin. According to Tolkien they are pronounced Kelegorm, Karanthir and Kurufin. There's also Curufin's son Celebrimbor pronounced with a K not to mention Galadriel's husband Celeborn. Plant, animal (the werewolf Carcharoth, for example)

I say yes. And the tv series could also tell the story of arnors fall and rise of the witch king and his kingdom Angmar Not to mention the great plague after the kin strife This early age has so much to tell basically the bridge from the great second age (not the Amazon cesspit of a tv show) to the time in the trilogy. Hopefully somebody in amazon realised that trying to write a 5 season epic based on the second age appendices only is pathetic (really they need silmarion and unfinished tales) it’s basically showing Tolkien fans that amazon don’t care about the epic story even if they do. Say why not start again once they rights to the other books and begin in the 1st age then work there way to 2nd age and finally early third age. Basically there setting up the world of the late third age and early fourth age. That’s what I would have done.

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Turgon was the third High King of the Noldor. The High Kingship only developed in Middle-earth with the division of the Noldor into separate realms. Fingolfin->Fingon->Turgon->Gil-galad Finwe was not High King of the Noldor, he was _Ñoldóran_ (King of the Noldor). When he 'unkinged' himself after Feanor's bamishment, Fingolfin became king. On Finwe's death, Feanor attempted to claim the Kingship, this was rejected by most of the Noldor who would not renounce Fingolfin. Thus leading to two rival claimants. And a note that the First Age begins when the Elves Awaken at Cuivienen.

There's this great side by side comparison between LOTR elves versus these. The magic is truly lost.

WHY DOES EVERYONE FORGET THAT AMROD AND AMRAS GAVE BËOR LAND? Estolad was in their realm, after the green elves refused to give the Bëorians a place in Ossiriand, Finrod approached Amrod and Amras who agreed to give up the northern part of their realm. It's interesting that they were the first ones Finrod approached, suggesting easy-going personalities and a certain resistance to their father's bullshit. Otherwise really well done though.

Wow man each one is getting better and better!

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THERINDE! We are not those who can speak no better!

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Very enjoyable listening. You have the perfect voice for this - fab natural cadence. I do agree about the mic though.

Great stuff! Cant wait for the new Mic!

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Actors that play elves in ROP act like humans with pointy ears.

Yeah, this is interesting to note as it seems in the ROP the elves don’t seem much different than Men or Númenoreans. In PJ’s films, however, you could kind of see the difference but (arguably) still not as much either. In a way it can seem kind of concerning to fans, and I can see why as if I envision looking at it and then acting the same without having read the books then it might be hard to distinguish the elves from men at face value unless one truly understands. However, there also seems to be a sense of similarity in elves and men even when they aren’t the exact same. This can (also arguably) be evident in how Tolkien first described the Elves and Men, they kind of have the same systems though their years are different - it’s really just like the men would have that “shorter version” of the Elves. However, it seems that Elves had roles that Men didn’t in Tolkien’s lore. They were able to sail west, they also had different roles in battle and such. Aside from this the elves also seem “otherworldly” in a sense so it would be (imo) quite concerning to paint them as just men with pointed ears or men who live longer. While it does depend on which kind of elf you’re talking about - each of them represents something that’s just unique in a sense you wouldn’t see in the other “races” of Middle-earth.

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Is he the son Of fingon or orodreth in this?

Great insightful video, when I watched the dinner scene with Durin I found Gil-Galad really mocking and superior. What a butcher of this wonderful character that the Professor made. 😥

Also, he's show costume kinda goofy, ngl.

Have you heard about character development my guy? I guess not

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You're spot on, my friend, but you seem to be connecting this series to J.R.R. Tolkien's The Silmarillion, among other works. As this is a completely original fantasy series set in the lands of Meddle Ord, and on the island of Nevermore, along with the Sodlands becoming a dark empire called Murder, I can't see the connection. I am looking forward to what the showrunners envisioned for the future of this highly intricate original fantasy drama. The water is always left!

Good questions! I think in a dramatic portrayal, Galadriel's powers should stay as "soft magic". I.e. literary and suggestive and not reducible to rule. Her prophetic powers have a clear origin in the Norns (the Norse Fates), who live in a well near the root of the Earth-tree Yggdrasil. She appears to create a "magical defence" for Lothlorien, called the Northern Fences. This power she undoubtedly learned from Melian who made the Girdle. Which in turn likely derives from Hippolyta's Girdle, the famous undergarment whose recovery was one of Hercules' labours. Her psychic powers probably do have to do with the ring Nenya. Again, this need only be suggested.

Actually the part that sits the worst with me is Elrond's mission to Khazad-Dum. He is a herald, an envoy. There are courtesies in such matters, you don't just turn him away at the door. Dain even conversed with the messenger of Mordor. And so forth

Regarding Finrod, and many other extreme future deviations from Amazon's PotR TV show: Since watching the first two episodes of Amazon's PotR, I found their TV adaptation of the character of Finrod far too distant from Tolkien's original canon of "King Finrod Felagund". In fact, Amazon's PotR got the entire death of Finrod completely wrong, as you accurately pointed out in your video here. Lore deviations are one thing, but changing whole parts as to be completely wrong from the original canon is just NOT acceptable at all. ...basically, Amazon should've been honest about this TV adaptation by naming it FFoG = Fan Fiction of Galadriel, in 5 stretched out mortifying seasons of yet again more LGBT, political, social, super-hero-worshiping, manipulative rhetoric, ... But, let's get to the real reasons why Amazon will and can do whatever they want. yep, you guessed it: money. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tolkien_Estate "certain literary works of J. R. R. Tolkien including The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings were sold by Tolkien himself to United Artists in 1969..." in order to pay his tax bill. and, of course in "2017, Amazon acquired the global television rights to The Lord of the Rings, ..., Amazon will be the producer in conjunction with the Tolkien Estate and The Tolkien Trust, HarperCollins and New Line Cinema." Or, as I like to pun many TV/Film adaptations today; "To the economic Victor go the spoils of Lore."

Great thoughts. We see immortals among us, e.g. Nancy Pelosi and Dr Fauci (both in their 80s I believe). When will they accept the Gift of Men? I am 66 and dwell on the Hither Shore

"Galadriel, the only woman of the Noldor to stand that day tall and valiant among the contending princes, was eager to be gone" -- Silmarillion, Of the Flight of the Noldor It's ret-conned, we don't know if it's really JRRT, but it speaks of an exceptionalism around Galadriel consistent with warrior-Galadriel. The simple story-line is, she married Celeborn in Doriath,.At some point, after the ruin of Menegroth but before the fall of Gondolin, they crossed east across the Blue Mountains. (Her words to the Fellowship being slightly at variance implying she crossed the mountains alone). I'm sure this kind of thought-through content has an audience, I hope you can keep on!

Thank you for discussing this in a level way, and bringing it back to actual textual criticism. Apologies in advance for the wall of text. I'm not going to make a video response, so this is the best you'll get. I will note, however, that Eärien is likely based on a character Tolkien wrote in his first version of the Númenor story, Fíriel, a daughter of a friend of Elendil (whose role was later taken on by Amandil) adopted into Elendil's household. She's not completely invented from whole cloth, and will likely serve (if current theories are correct) as an example of someone being swayed over the Kings Men (and possibly by Sauron - she is after all an aspiring architect who craves attention....when later a big temple is going to be designed and built). If people are going to engage in good faith criticism, then it's a position that can indeed be moved by extra evidence (as opposed to a pre-determined political stance looking for problems or assumed problems). Some show details complained about online (Good old Nerwen(=man-maiden) being referred to unironically as "Guyladriel" made me chuckle, since it was meant as an insult) have been seen to be sourced from obscure writings (well, if you count the prologue as obscure, it talks about Hobbits and their forebears dating back to the Elder Days=First Age), sometimes emphasised a little, sometimes are valid readings of an ambiguous passage. Some, like the description of Finrod you use an example, are not aligned with the greater story from the Silmarillion. But we are lacking context of the statement (I suspect it's from the 7-minute conversation Galadriel is reportedly going to have with Elrond, since that's been used a bit in trailers). To give a hypothetical, Galadriel may go on to say "He gave his life to protect Beren One-hand." This is in the text of LotR Appendix B, so should be in-limits. And it's also not inconsistent with the slightly confusing information we have from the trailers about Finrod possibly dying in battle. So now we have to evaluate the statement from the trailer in light of the now clearly canonical statement about how Finrod died. Or, perhaps it's not explained further at all! In either case, we have to think about how mentioning Finrod serves *Galadriel's* story, since that's what's on screen. Peter Jackson changing the conditions in which Isildur cut the One Ring from Sauron's hand didn't affect the main story, though it greatly lessened the characters of Gil-galad and Elendil, and Isildur's manner of refusal to destroy the ring being changed lessened his character, but again it didn't change Frodo's story. So please, keep up the good criticism! But also be aware that people will push back if you make analysis on partial information.

Hi Cerebrum Machine. I appreciate what you are trying to do and I've subscribed. With Galadriel and Finrod there is the deeper question, why depart from the arc that is set up in Unfinished Tales? Galadriel's motives are that (1) she wishes "to follow Feanor with her anger to whatever lands he might come". With her anger! This is the time-bomb, the potential flaw in her character. (2) To rule a realm of her own. These seem to me to be nobler and grander motives than any we are likely to see, fitting for a heroine of Tragedy. I liked the way of setting up a theme on the left hand side and detailing it on the right hand side. As a weird alternative, I once did a poster presentation with some Chinese people and they put the main theme in the middle and the sub-themes all around. I'm saying it's a good idea but it could be varied. On to the niggles... There's an ad that often pops up: Don't use bullet-points in a presentation! They are so PowerPoint. I used to spend hours choosing the style for my bullet-points but hey, it was the 1990s "On to the next slide" -- oh dear "At the end of the day" -- cliche, delete Anyway thanks, I really did appreciate the tone and approach, I look forward to more

Good video, have found some of the critics of RoP to be a bit superficial and uninformed.

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