How much material is left? I’m measuring my wheel and it looks like I’ll have about .200 material thickness after I cut it. Do you think that’s enough?
I bought some super singles *I was told* got milled to a 22” with brand new 33” allterrian tires on them, so I put them on my truck and didn’t even make it half a mile before the tire came off the rim… no harm was done, I’m 95% sure they weren’t milled down but how could I check to be sure? Or Is it possible they are milled and the tires just didn’t get a good bead? I’ve never messed with these kinda wheels so any input is helpful
As the wheel manufacturer, have you tested these wheels for lateral load now that you removed a substantial part of the bead area? What is the point of voiding the $500 wheels warranty? seems really risky, in todays times when lawsuits abound. An improperly repaired tire cost Mossy Ford 28.8m dollars, this can ruin a business when something goes wrong.
Nope, I didn’t invent this process, but the thinnest point after the cut is still thicker than most lighter duty aluminum wheels. The point is to be able to use them on a pickup truck with commonly available 24” car tires. 24.5 load rating factory (as a 24.5)is 7400lbs, load rating on a standard 24” car tire is 2200lbs so you’d have a hard time overloading the rim before the tire.
We had a guy come into my shop today trying to have us mount some 24 inch super low profile tires on to milled down 24.5 diesel wheels. Had to turn him away for liability reasons, but I was blown away this was even a thing. Had to Google some pictures to see what was going on here lol. Super cool to see something different tho
@@devriesfabmachine8721 Go to the 2:00 minute mark in your video. That's where the coolant mist starts out as you are breathing it in. As machinists, it's all too easy for us to lose sight of this. I've seen guys with surface grinders and welders in their small shops but regard proper air filtration and ventilation as an afterthought- as if it was a difference that made no difference.
@@GnosisMan50 ah good point. I did have a vent fan going out the window right there, but after that set of wheels I switched to a coolant that is mixed with water and according to the SDS is non toxic. I do wear a respirator for grinding though, and I have a fume extractor setup in my garage where I weld.
@DeVries Fab & Machine where does the cut begin? Is it at the highest point? Sorry to be a pain I've just always been curious how it's done with going too far sideways into the lip.
@@FATKIDRacing I just line up on the radius and feed in from there. The cutter I use does leave a small radius but much smaller than the radius that’s already there
Where are you located? I have a set of 22.5 that need to mill down to 22. How much do you charge? I'm in Los Angeles if you know anyone that can do this near me that works also.
Man you had her good and straight! Nice set up. Did you leave a radius or did your mill leave it at a 90? We just turned a set on a lathe and it finished at 90 but they work great.
Thanks! Lathe I’m sure would be much faster but mine is a little small for that. I picked the carbide inserts on the cutter because they have a decent radius on them, but it’s still much smaller radius than the wheels originally had.
How could it be only ⅛" off and not ¼"? I know it is small difference, but in the scheme of stretch or pressure on the bead of a tire, that's what's to consider. I don't know, maybe technically tire manufacturers even say their diameter indicators for tires have a +/- variant allowed. But it should be researched for certainty, which results in ultimate safety.
@@devriesfabmachine8721 yeah, I read that in the other reply. Just saying it should be confirmed exactly why, as a ¼" would relate to the ½" down to 22". Otherwise it would appear to result in 22¼". Know what I mean?
@@HTSS8 I get what you’re saying, but it’s not really that critical,tires have a lot of flexibility. I’ve seen guys run 22s on them without removing any material without any problems, not that I would recommend it. I’ve done a few sets this way and talked to the tire shop that mounted the tires and they said they were no different to mount than a normal 22. If I were to take a full 1/4 off I’d run into the aluminum around the lip getting thin and possibly failing.
@@devriesfabmachine8721 OK, I'm not trying to nit pick, but by the notion of tire flexibility, then could be assumed not mill off even the ⅛" either. What's [another] ⅛" hurt? But if the whole ¼" is more material than the rim has to give up then that's the risk taken, give and get a little.
I only take 1/8 off per side, I measured another wheel milled by a company that sells a lot of them and copied that. Ive done a couple sets and the tire shop says they mount like a normal 22. I do plan to a longer detailed video on the process at some point
Thanks very much for the reply I am in the process of getting some milled and will try the 1/8th and mount one then go with do the rest accordingly! I’ll watch for your video! Thanks!
How much material is left? I’m measuring my wheel and it looks like I’ll have about .200 material thickness after I cut it. Do you think that’s enough?
Yeah usually around 1/4 inch thick in the corner.
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Where are you located?
Central NJ
Where are you located I need some done
Cost to do 6 wheels please
Email me at davedevries824@gmail.com
The cost to have a set done re 6
Thank you for the video its a credit to your skill 👍😊
I bought some super singles *I was told* got milled to a 22” with brand new 33” allterrian tires on them, so I put them on my truck and didn’t even make it half a mile before the tire came off the rim… no harm was done, I’m 95% sure they weren’t milled down but how could I check to be sure? Or Is it possible they are milled and the tires just didn’t get a good bead? I’ve never messed with these kinda wheels so any input is helpful
If it’s not milled the rim would just taper directly to the lip, if it is there would be a small flat step about 3/4 inch wide before the lip
The tire just came off sounds like bs
You did find that the second bead on the dish side got too thin?
No, I’ve done a few dozen sets like this and haven’t had any issues whatsoever. It’s still around 3/8” thick at the thinnest point
I would like to see a video of you measuring the dish side before and after milling
How much did you take off?
.150 per side
I've been looking for this video for 10 yrs.
What is the name if this jig you have mounted that the belts turn or did you custom make it?
@@MrCstone1 it’s a rotary table with 10 lug adapter on it. the belts run off the machine power feed
@devriesfabmachine8721 thanks for the quick reply and info
What's something like this cost on 22.5"milled to 22"
I generally charge $90 per wheel for 22.5s
This is very dangerous
Thanks for watching!
How?
As the wheel manufacturer, have you tested these wheels for lateral load now that you removed a substantial part of the bead area? What is the point of voiding the $500 wheels warranty? seems really risky, in todays times when lawsuits abound. An improperly repaired tire cost Mossy Ford 28.8m dollars, this can ruin a business when something goes wrong.
Nope, I didn’t invent this process, but the thinnest point after the cut is still thicker than most lighter duty aluminum wheels. The point is to be able to use them on a pickup truck with commonly available 24” car tires. 24.5 load rating factory (as a 24.5)is 7400lbs, load rating on a standard 24” car tire is 2200lbs so you’d have a hard time overloading the rim before the tire.
We had a guy come into my shop today trying to have us mount some 24 inch super low profile tires on to milled down 24.5 diesel wheels. Had to turn him away for liability reasons, but I was blown away this was even a thing. Had to Google some pictures to see what was going on here lol. Super cool to see something different tho
Been doin it for 20 yrs
For liability? Nah because you didn't know how to do it
@@MrDollainc LOL! Exactly! He could have made a release form for any liability.
Nice work!
No respirator? Not good.
Respirator for what?
@@devriesfabmachine8721 Go to the 2:00 minute mark in your video. That's where the coolant mist starts out as you are breathing it in. As machinists, it's all too easy for us to lose sight of this. I've seen guys with surface grinders and welders in their small shops but regard proper air filtration and ventilation as an afterthought- as if it was a difference that made no difference.
@@GnosisMan50 ah good point. I did have a vent fan going out the window right there, but after that set of wheels I switched to a coolant that is mixed with water and according to the SDS is non toxic. I do wear a respirator for grinding though, and I have a fume extractor setup in my garage where I weld.
@@devriesfabmachine8721 It's a life saver that you are aware -not many machinist are. I'm glad you know better -all the best to you!
What’s the purpose of this ?
Run 24” tires instead of 24.5 for use on pickup trucks
Location and contact info?
I’m located in Central NJ email is DaveDeVries824@gmail.com
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Now when you say you take off 1/8, do you mean the circumstance? How do you know how far to cut off of the lip area? Love the video!
I actually take .150 off per side depth of cut, for a total of .3” off the diameter.
@DeVries Fab & Machine where does the cut begin? Is it at the highest point? Sorry to be a pain I've just always been curious how it's done with going too far sideways into the lip.
@@FATKIDRacing I just line up on the radius and feed in from there. The cutter I use does leave a small radius but much smaller than the radius that’s already there
Is it possible to mill steel 22.5s? Love to keep my steelies on the Loadstar
No, there’s not enough material on a steel wheel to mill anything off
I’d like a set milled how can I contact you. I’m in pa and could bring them
My email is davedevries824@gmail.com
Where are you located? I have a set of 22.5 that need to mill down to 22. How much do you charge? I'm in Los Angeles if you know anyone that can do this near me that works also.
@@devriesfabmachine8721 from Massachusetts and interested in getting my wheels mill down to 22” from 22.5. Is there a phone number I can call?
Great setup. I would imagine the same is possible with 19.5" semi wheels?
Thanks, I’d think so but so far I’ve only done 22.5s and 24.5s.
Also location and contact info..?
Is this milled down to run 24”..?
in have the equipment to turn mine down how do you know how far to cut into the very outer lip of the wheel
I just measured a set I had that were done already, ends up being about .150 I take off, just over 1/8 inch.
Man you had her good and straight! Nice set up. Did you leave a radius or did your mill leave it at a 90? We just turned a set on a lathe and it finished at 90 but they work great.
Thanks! Lathe I’m sure would be much faster but mine is a little small for that. I picked the carbide inserts on the cutter because they have a decent radius on them, but it’s still much smaller radius than the wheels originally had.
Location??
I’m in NJ
Dam I'm trying to find someone close to Tennessee
Where are you located and prices?
Thank you
How could it be only ⅛" off and not ¼"? I know it is small difference, but in the scheme of stretch or pressure on the bead of a tire, that's what's to consider. I don't know, maybe technically tire manufacturers even say their diameter indicators for tires have a +/- variant allowed. But it should be researched for certainty, which results in ultimate safety.
I measured another wheel that was already milled from a company that has been doing it for a long time and matched the circumference.
@@devriesfabmachine8721 yeah, I read that in the other reply. Just saying it should be confirmed exactly why, as a ¼" would relate to the ½" down to 22". Otherwise it would appear to result in 22¼". Know what I mean?
@@HTSS8 I get what you’re saying, but it’s not really that critical,tires have a lot of flexibility. I’ve seen guys run 22s on them without removing any material without any problems, not that I would recommend it. I’ve done a few sets this way and talked to the tire shop that mounted the tires and they said they were no different to mount than a normal 22. If I were to take a full 1/4 off I’d run into the aluminum around the lip getting thin and possibly failing.
@@devriesfabmachine8721 OK, I'm not trying to nit pick, but by the notion of tire flexibility, then could be assumed not mill off even the ⅛" either. What's [another] ⅛" hurt? But if the whole ¼" is more material than the rim has to give up then that's the risk taken, give and get a little.
@@HTSS8 it works fine as is, so I’d rather not risk milling it to thin, you can mill yours however you like tho.
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I’m in central New Jersey
Hi can you tell me how much you took off total from bead? Was it 1/4 all around? Did that only leave you with 1/8th bead thickness? Thanks!
I only take 1/8 off per side, I measured another wheel milled by a company that sells a lot of them and copied that. Ive done a couple sets and the tire shop says they mount like a normal 22. I do plan to a longer detailed video on the process at some point
Thanks very much for the reply I am in the process of getting some milled and will try the 1/8th and mount one then go with do the rest accordingly! I’ll watch for your video! Thanks!