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2. Making Sense of LLF/General Synod Nov 2023 Part 2: How are we responding? | CEEC Podcast
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In part 2 of this conversation is how we are responding to decisions taken at November 2023 General Synod with guests Ed Shaw, Director of Living Out & CEEC Co-Chair and Helen Lamb, a member of CEEC. They discuss CEEC's Provisions around Alternative Spiritual Oversight and Financial Giving (The Ephesian Fund). Hosted by CEEC National Director, Rev. John Dunnett. More on the Ephesian Fund includ...
1. Making Sense of Living in Love & Faith after General Synod Vote Nov. 2023 | CEEC Podcast
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With guests Ed Shaw, Director of Living Out & CEEC Co-Chair and Helen Lamb, a member of CEEC, we discuss Living in Love and Faith in the Church of England and in particular, making sense of the November 2023 General Synod and its implications. Hosted by CEEC National Director, John Dunnett. 0:00 Introductions and Welcome to Ed and Helen 1:00 What is Living in Love and Faith? 2:50 What happened ...
We Love the Church of England
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Do you think that the House of Bishops' proposals are encouraging the church to walk away from what the Bible say about sex and marriage? Do you think we need to reorder the structures of the Church of England to enable biblical teaching and witness to flourish? The Bible offers a beautiful and inspiring narrative as to what it is to be made ‘in the image of God’ - a narrative which covers ever...
CEEC Response to House of Bishops Commendation of Prayers for People in Same-Sex Relationships
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The House of Bishops has proposed a way forward for the Church of England’s divisions over sexual ethics. It suggests the Church adopts new prayers, which could be used in services for same-sex couples who have been legally partnered or married. None of us want to see the Church of England split - so could this sort of compromise keep everyone together?
Learning from Elsewhere
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The Bible offers a beautiful and inspiring narrative as to what it is to be made ‘in the image of God’ - a narrative which covers every part of experience including human sexuality. In this collection of short films, the Church of England Evangelical Council (CEEC) encourages local churches and their leaders to engage with this biblical narrative and the implications of any departure from it by...
How Important Are Our Differences?
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The Bible offers a beautiful and inspiring narrative as to what it is to be made ‘in the image of God’ - a narrative which covers every part of experience including human sexuality. In this collection of short films, the Church of England Evangelical Council (CEEC) encourages local churches and their leaders to engage with this biblical narrative and the implications of any departure from it by...
Starting the Conversation
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The Bible offers a beautiful and inspiring narrative as to what it is to be made ‘in the image of God’ - a narrative which covers every part of experience including human sexuality. In this collection of short films, the Church of England Evangelical Council (CEEC) encourages local churches and their leaders to engage with this biblical narrative and the implications of any departure from it by...
Can We Remain Silent?
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The Bible offers a beautiful and inspiring narrative as to what it is to be made ‘in the image of God’ - a narrative which covers every part of experience including human sexuality. In this collection of short films, the Church of England Evangelical Council (CEEC) encourages local churches and their leaders to engage with this biblical narrative and the implications of any departure from it by...
In Lament | Church Cultures, Power & Abuse
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The Church of England Evangelical Council (CEEC) has published a series of materials designed to help evangelical churches review, repent and reshape their cultures on the back of the recent Thirtyone:eight independent review into two prominent evangelical churches and their leaders. This introductory film is accompanied by some culture review questions and a Liturgy of Lament for churches to t...
Esther's Story
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Despite great progress towards racial justice in the UK, serious inequality still remains, both in society as a whole and the church. Released on Martin Luther King Day (18th January 2021), "One" is a film commissioned by the Church of England Evangelical Council, featuring a discussion between five Anglican friends on how Christians can think Biblically about race and ethnicity. Alongside the ...
Jason's Story
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Despite great progress towards racial justice in the UK, serious inequality still remains, both in society as a whole and the church. Released on Martin Luther King Day (18th January 2021), "One" is a film commissioned by the Church of England Evangelical Council, featuring a discussion between five Anglican friends on how Christians can think Biblically about race and ethnicity. Alongside the ...
ONE
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Despite great progress towards racial justice in the UK, serious inequality still remains, both in society as a whole and the church. Released on Martin Luther King Day (18th January 2021), "One" is a film commissioned by the Church of England Evangelical Council, featuring a discussion between five Anglican friends on how Christians can think Biblically about race and ethnicity. It features di...
The Beautiful Story
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Christians believe that the gospel is good news for all people and for all time. But since the narratives of our contemporary culture don’t always echo a biblical worldview, the church needs to be clear about how the gospel challenges and transforms human experience - including in our relationships and sexuality. The Beautiful Story is a 30 minute film that explains how a biblical vision for hu...
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  • @samlancaster1277
    @samlancaster1277 4 місяці тому

    Thank you in raising the most important issue , that of Repentance. I certainly can’t recall any Bishop or Archbishop calling either the nation or church to Repentance. Not over recent decades !

  • @ClementineQuasem
    @ClementineQuasem 5 місяців тому

    Thx for BBTB 🎉

  • @jl453
    @jl453 8 місяців тому

    As an American who would love to worship in a CofE church while traveling to the UK,I couldn't bring myself to do it with what's going on in the pulpit. Barely any men,overrun with female deacons and vicars,rife with LGBTQ+ people in the pulpit. Ick.

  • @systemparadox
    @systemparadox 8 місяців тому

    By arguing for this separation evangelicals seem to just be accepting this is the way things are going to go. Why aren't we pushing back and trying to stop it entirely? Our prayer should not be that they "accomodate" people who still hold to the Bible, it should be that the whole church repents.

  • @NicholasRailton
    @NicholasRailton 10 місяців тому

    Galatians 1:8-9. May they be accursed.

  • @NicholasRailton
    @NicholasRailton 10 місяців тому

    The C of E has been a synagogue of Satan for some time. Heretical and doing the Jezebel thing. It is absolutely clear. Supporting such an organisation with time and money is itself sinful. God's judgement is on the organisation and its paying members. All who are in in or part of it will suffer what is said in Revelation 18: 4-5. It is no longer time to remain. Suggesting otherwise is a dangerous form of complicity in evil.

  • @jaimieholiday6255
    @jaimieholiday6255 10 місяців тому

    Promo-SM 😡

  • @TaskerVhun
    @TaskerVhun 10 місяців тому

    Part of the problem with the mindset within the Church of England and even the CoE evangelicals can be summed up by what Ed Shaw said at 2:26, he considers that it is a "negative" outcome that "irreconcilable differences" were exposed within CoE concerning views about sexuality and gender - it shows a pervasive attitude that divisive issues can be swept underneath the surface for the sake of unity. I consider it a positive and necessary action that light and truth shines in the darkness and shows up what is false teaching and that false teachers are seen as wolves. Even now, our evangelical leaders are unwilling to call out bishops who lead others into false teaching as heretics so that us sheep in CoE remain in unnecessary confusion.

  • @gilesbradley162
    @gilesbradley162 10 місяців тому

    If I were able to ask questions in Synod (of the liberals) they would be these 1. If you were confident that the Bible did forbid homosexual relationships, would you submit to that? 2. Assuming yes, how would the Bible have to have worded it to convince you? I'm not at all confident that the answer to 1 would be an unequivocal Yes. No doubt there'd be some saying Well, if Jesus had said it yes, but Paul I don't respect. Or else a relativisation of the issue: 'times have moved on'. On question 2 I'm not sure how the Bible can be more clear to be honest but I'd love to hear it.

  • @user-hi8rg7bl2s
    @user-hi8rg7bl2s 10 місяців тому

    Core issue ~ @12:51 "... do we believe the gospel is about God affirming us as we are or do we believe the gospel is a call to repentance and transformation into the likeness of Christ -- which is for all of us, no matter our particular experience?" ua-cam.com/video/GBhT9ixxg2U/v-deo.htmlsi=PGUD6pqBgQ2ELaoV&t=771

  • @two-moonz2953
    @two-moonz2953 11 місяців тому

    "The doctrine of the church has not changed but practice is...?" The CofE is a joke. Either you follow what the Bible says or you don't.

    • @HearGodsWord
      @HearGodsWord 11 місяців тому

      It's a real fudge of the House of Bishops trying to find a middle ground to please everyone, and ending up pleasing no-one.

  • @mikecrees9715
    @mikecrees9715 11 місяців тому

    I wonder about the repenting of homophobia thing. You see for many it seems that repenting of homophobia mens different things to dofferent people. If you have the view that this repenrance means total acceptance of all things same sex, then they will see that repentance as hollow or hypocritical. If it is about welcoming all leople to the throne of grace, and loving people, then I dont currently knoe of anyone who would dream of not doing so, and as such have nothibg to repent of. To thus "repent" would also be hyposritical. All who call on the name, and make Jesus Lord will be saved, but part of this gospel is that there is repentance. To not do so is not to make him Lord. Therefore the exclusion may well be self imposed. We welcome all, and then make tje appeal of the gospel. We dont welcome all and say that the cleansing of amd fkrgiveness flr sin makes the sin holy, but we welcome the person. If however someone has an identity that makes them a familiar with sin the appeal ks to reject that.

  • @JonathanRedden-wh6un
    @JonathanRedden-wh6un 11 місяців тому

    We may say we are not homophobic but as far as LGBT people are concerned we are.

    • @HearGodsWord
      @HearGodsWord 11 місяців тому

      There's plenty of 'LGPT people' who agree with the CEEC and disagree with the CofE. Also, just because someone says something is something-phobic, it doesn't mean that it is.

    • @normanyardy1532
      @normanyardy1532 10 місяців тому

      If we love LGBTQ people, Christians should tell them the truth of the Gospel as the truth sets them free.

  • @lewis7315
    @lewis7315 11 місяців тому

    Regional or national Church authorities pretending to have authority over the local church are completely unbiblical, a holdover from the days of the Roman "church."

  • @grahammorgan1
    @grahammorgan1 11 місяців тому

    Why should evangelicals remain in the COE, which in its modern iteration, is clearly now a non-Christian denomination?

    • @mitchmclean5435
      @mitchmclean5435 11 місяців тому

      Partly non-Christian

    • @lewis7315
      @lewis7315 11 місяців тому

      "come out from among them, be ye separate, touch not the unclean thing." Beware the "Laodaceans" who want to rule over the "laity" the church members.@@mitchmclean5435

    • @grahammorgan1
      @grahammorgan1 11 місяців тому

      @@mitchmclean5435 whilst I understand your sentiment, I have to strongly disagree. This crosses a 'red line' and undermines the entire denomination. I don't see how evangelicals can still remain the in the COE, and don't accept the CEEC view that new structures can and will be created which will provide suffecient legal and independent differentiation. My advise is get out now and work on forging a new path.

    • @mitchmclean5435
      @mitchmclean5435 11 місяців тому

      @@grahammorgan1 My advice is to advocate for structural differentiation as the CEEC are doing

    • @mikecrees9715
      @mikecrees9715 11 місяців тому

      hmm. I guess the liberals Nd progressives want exactly that. All those faithful Christians over the centuries who have invested in the church, even on mine where there have been many legacies over the years from faithful believers. And you propose we hand that over to the wolves in sheep's clothing, and become refugees? And what if the new believers who have found Christ recently? The youth? The children? Do we abandon them to the tender mercies of those who have rejected scripture - what kind of spiritual parent leaves the little ones, fleeing trouble? Many of us live in small towns without that many other churches to go to, and in reality are not ready to plant new churches. It may come to that of course. They may well throw us out for defending the truth and scripture. They might do all sorts of abominable things in their wickedness. But you know that Christ is still on his throne you know.

  • @toogoodtobetrueyoubetterbe2745
    @toogoodtobetrueyoubetterbe2745 2 роки тому

    This is a great video: ua-cam.com/video/RrsSxjzOuNc/v-deo.html God has given her lots of prophetic messages too

  • @jamesmorgan1402
    @jamesmorgan1402 3 роки тому

    Brilliant and painful testimony. Thank you for sharing your story, Jason!

  • @campbellpaget453
    @campbellpaget453 3 роки тому

    This was very welcome and from some most inspiring individuals. Yes, there were a few non sequiturs and unconscious or conscious assumptions that were somewhat misleading and a little too general, but no church could be anything but impressed by the desire shown here for our churches and Christians to be more faithful to the biblical vision of humanity. It was unfortunate that in setting the scene the chairperson fell into the trap of quoting statistics and ratios. A statistic or a ratio on its own is not enough: it can and does here present a misleading and unhelpful impression. One has to look at the context and ask how that statistic is being used. Quoting the government's Race Disparity Audit's figures on poverty and arrests as examples of injustice and inequality without explanation, context, and apposite comparisons only serves to create guilt and fear. This is also true when talking about 'representation''. According to the last census, the UK was 87% white and 3% black: this has certain consequences with regard to representation. It would also have been of help in surveying the scene and the problem if the participants had said something about the hugely significant factors of culture, class, and circumstances which, as leading black intellectuals in the US have stressed, are responsible for many of the injustice and poverty outcomes the responsibility for which others would prefer to lay at the feet of such scientifically and academically unsound but politically and emotionally attractive concepts as 'systemic racism', 'white privilege', 'unconscious bias', etc. So whilst being 'wise' regarding 1 John 4: 1, we need always to keep 1 John 4: 11 in the vanguard of our thoughts and actions.

  • @lynnemccarthy4064
    @lynnemccarthy4064 3 роки тому

    What a wonderful group; what a wonderful conversation; what wonderful truths arising from faith in Christ. thank you!

  • @oyinladeoladipo
    @oyinladeoladipo 3 роки тому

    I am pleased with this.

  • @HearGodsWord
    @HearGodsWord 3 роки тому

    In the story he says he was stopped because of the clothes he was wearing, not the colour of his skin.

    • @Windy_London
      @Windy_London 3 роки тому

      @Hear God's Word Let's not kid about such a serious subject. It's obvious he was profiled because of his skin colour. Jesus hated when the Pharisees split hairs like this.

    • @HearGodsWord
      @HearGodsWord 3 роки тому

      @@Windy_London no-one is kidding. I stated what he said in the video.

  • @caz9825
    @caz9825 3 роки тому

    Such a well thought out discussion. Thank you for creating this film