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There was nothing that looked like PUL in the fabric layers. The waterproof layer (I'm assuming that's the one you mean?) almost feels like latex. I wonder if it's a type of TPU. I had someone send me some TPU fabric, which looks a lot like pvc vinyl, but is soft, flexible, and slightly sticky🤷‍♀️.

I know, lol! In my research, it seems that period underwear and cloth incontinence products are tested either by the tsp method (one tsp at a time, wait 1 min.) or by immersion, neither of which is possible to be truly accurate for real use, but can make absorption quantity confusing for purchasers! Also, a lot of products/absorbing products require compression to properly absorb, which makes it challenging to test. Alas.

You're welcome! I'm so glad that you find it helpful :) If there videos or techniques you like to see, just let me know!

You’re talking about her like she’s a politician. She’s a small business owner who makes incontinence products. I have no idea how you got this from her video that is overwhelmingly positive towards all parties. Don’t be willfully ignorant, our community has a loud minority of people who probably asked her all manner of sexual questions and she has every right to not like that.

@@rowan-priince1860 You're talking about me like I'm a politician. I'm a small individual person who uses incontence products. I have no idea how you got this from my post that is overwhelmingly positive towards all parties. Don't be willfully ignorant. Sorry... There *may* be "all manner of sexual questions..." But if that were the case, then why would she not be clear about it? I have seen a *lot* of people make vague hurtful claims, which when I *can* check the source of the claim, they are *entirely* unfounded that they are anything along as serious as they make out. I didn't get it from *her*. What I got from her, was a claim, which is *unfounded* in what she said, and a Bayesian analysis of previous such claims, that the *vast* majority (like 90% are *entirely* baseless, and based on, "I felt slightly uncomfortable, so I'm going to make a claim about how terribly toxic this person is." *I* have had comments that *could* be considered genuinely inappropriate. Such as your own... Should I report that *your* comment is "genuinely inapprorpiate". It's not of a "Sexual nature," but you know nothing about me, and I *doubt* any more about her than I do. But you *have* to come and defend her. Why is it not OK with you to criticise someone? Well... Why is it not OK with you for someone else to criticise someone... But entirely OK with you to go around making wildly unfounded claims about people?

@@JigmeDatse I’m genuinely confused where you saw hostility in her video, that’s why I responded. You can be critical of her, I’m just not seeing the things you’re criticizing. My “willfully ignorant” comment was not about your comment as a whole, but specifically due to you acting as though sexual, invasive, and otherwise uncomfortable questions are some kind of rarity. I’m in this community, I’ve posted innocuous things on places like Reddit and gotten DM’d questions and comments that were not respectful. I’ve also gotten them from other communities, it just happens in spaces where sex, kink or fetish comes up. I also think it’s unfair to imply that she should have to air out exactly what these people said, because again, I think most ABDLs know exactly what she’s talking about.

@@rowan-priince1860 Here you start saying that you are, "genuinely confused..." But I'm going to take some of your language, and give you a good idea about why it is that you are, "genuinely confused." Looking at my initial comment, I have even more to say: > but specifically due to you acting as though sexual, invasive, and otherwise uncomfortable questions are some kind of rarity. Where did I suggest that? Exactly where did I say the thing you are accusing me of saying? This *specific* comment (the original) was in response to watching the same video *specifically* looking as to what *was* said about what "inappropriate" comments were made. I didn't state that such were *not* made. I stated she *specifically* didn't say the *nature* of those comments: > I’m in this community, I’ve posted innocuous things on places like Reddit and gotten DM’d questions and comments that were not respectful. Yes, that does happen... You're going to find it very hard to actually point to where I said otherwise. In case you failed to comprehend... My opening response to you, was an almost *direct* quote of what you said to me. And *that* is what you pulled out of it, being, "not OK" specifically. Which is exactly *why* I responded in that way. Your comment *was* inappropriate, and looking at what I said that you *were* responding to, I was probably overly generous that you, "just didn't understand," but rather that you didn't really bother to take the time to *try* to understand. You saw criticism, and you jumped and made up a story about that criticism. > it just happens in spaces where sex, kink or fetish comes up. If you think that's the only place it comes up... I think you're incredibly lucky. Or maybe incredibly privilaged... I've seen it in *children's games* where there's a social component. > I also think it’s unfair to imply that she should have to air out exactly what these people said, because again, I think most ABDLs know exactly what she’s talking about. I'm not asking for an "airing out" of "exactly what was said." I'm pointing to when you state that, "an inappropriate thing was said..." and you give *zero* context, everyone *has* to *assume* what it is. You are *not* adding anything to the conversation. I don't even come *close* to knowing what she's talking about. That's because I'm loath to make assumptions, about parts of a conversation I'm not a party to. Sadly, it seems that you are willing to make assumptions about a conversation you are actively engaged in, and make judgements based on those assumptions, which are based on "knowledge" not in evidence, that you could *literally* see is not there if you didn't just decide that it was TL;DR, and reply anyway.

@@JigmeDatse Forgive my ignorance, if that's even in your nature... I don't understand your chastising (hostile?) response, to this video, what-so-ever... I get the impression, that your verbosity, isn't to be thorough, and/or articulate, yet seems to just be trying to bash compliance, to your way of thinking... I, personally, have 50+ years of incontinence-experience, both of self, and with caring for others, and also, around 40+years with DL/AB (in that order), which includes the emotional well-being of both primary types, and everything in-between... My take-away from this video, is in leaning emotional protection towards IC, without any shame or judgement, on AB/DL - yet which even in the AB/DL support (not fetish, strictly), there are some stand-out persons, who don't seem to have the social filters, or self-control, to better manage their erotic, or fantasy aspects - as was said _"read the room"_ and make their comments and inquiries, more appropriately (in private, or public forums); and with that, trying to be everything, to everyone - any AB/DL, can comfortably source products, and services from IC-only, outlets - however, the degree of shame, and embarrassment for those with IC-only, and the utter bazaar, confusing, and otherwise unconventionality, of the AB/DL types (to them) - can and likely does, scare them off from getting the support and products, they're looking for, and need. TL:DR: There's nothing exclusionary about this video - only a preference to reach the IC-only, first, and foremost. As far as AB/DL outlets, wanting to preference AB/DL's over IC, well, IC is medical, and typically, they can charge more, for AB/DL products, as much because, their consumption is optional... Best regards-

You definitely get points for trying! I've heard from a lot of people who have had to navigate incontinence since childhood and while it was never an easy journey for anyone, most have found good ways to manage it.

Thank you!!

Yes, this is a tutorial for how to make a reusable cloth diaper. Depending on care, they can last for a couple hundred washings.

@littleonioncloth9345 could you please tell me the material of cloth you used for making this

I used regular bamboo fleece that I bought at Wazoodle. Nature's fabric and Kinderel Organic Fabrics also sells bamboo fleece. For the sewn in absorbency, I used 3D bamboo ZORB, though you could just use several layers of bamboo fleece instead.

I also highly recommend looking into the work of Brené Brown when it comes to the topic of shame.

Thank you for sharing your struggles in this. There's a box that culture/society has deemed "acceptable" and if you're outside that box (whether by choice or nature) then something is wrong with you. As individuals, many people will become accepting to some degree if they hear someone's story, but that still requires a willingness to challenge their ingrained sense of "right" and "wrong," but that is hard especially if the predetermined "wrong" is something by choice. I've actually had a couple of people tell me that their involvement in the abdl/ageplay was recommended to them by therapists as a way to manage high stress professions. But thank you again for being willing to tell your story, having these difficult conversations is the only way to chip away at the shame and the stigmal

I have read all her books and I LOVED them. She does such amazing work!

@@littleonioncloth9345 Glad to share or answer questions anytime. I do believe in living authentically and respectfully so when opportunities like this arise, it's nice to normalize things more and make it less a secret. The stress management thing is true, but it's not super common as it requires therapists which are well versed outside the textbook and it doesn't work for everyone. I know for myself it can be a great tool for helping depression. The best broad categorization I've heard is that it's a venn diagram of erotic/kink, sensory, or therapeutic (and medical being orthogonal since it can apply to anyone). Where you fall in that diagram can change for any multitude of reasons.

That makes a lot of sense to view it as a venn diagram. Thank you again for sharing your thoughts!

Thank you for sharing. Finding a product that works, is affordable, and nice to skin can be really tough.

Thank you! I'm so glad that you find them helpful :)

Definitely! Many of the people I've talked with have found that their loved ones are supportive once they open up about it, but that's not always the case. The stigma itself is so big, it's like it's own entity and that's what's so hard to overcome :(

Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I hope you and yours have a lovely holiday season as well :)

It's certainly a whole different routine and the laundry is no joke! When I cloth diapered my kids, staying on top of washing was my biggest challenge to staying consistent.

@littleonioncloth9345 That can be a challenge. My mother used cloth diapers on me until I was age 2 yrs old and then cloth training pants until I was age 5 yrs. old.

I think that ABDL and cloth incontinence products are 2 different sides of the same coin. For people exploring the use of cloth incontinence products to manage incontinence, often their first exposure to ABDL is not the incredible supportive community or really amazing people, but random comments and shops that sell obvious ABDL items. But how do you make sense of something that is surrounded by so much stigma? Maybe that's the real question at the heart of this? I don't know, I'm still figuring it out too, lol! Thank you for your comment and your thoughts :)

@@littleonioncloth9345 You are correct that functionally it's the exact same product for both markets and it's mostly just aesthetics that cater to one group over another. The stigma and shame attached to incontinence and diapers is rough in its own right. Ageplayers that choose to wear diapers have an additional level of stigma and shame to live with. I'm in one of the larger concentrated areas of the world for that market and I don't think I've run across a single person that at some point hasn't (but likely even still) struggle with the societal shame associated with who they are. It's been part of me since I was a kid before the days of the internet even and it's hard. There's no one reason anyone is in that community and it encompasses people from every walk of life and background. There is a higher than average statistical irregularity for people in the community with mental health problems, trauma, and neurodivergency is non-negligible anecdotally as I've observed over 3 decades, but that does not mean any kind of causation. There's very little formal research or representation because most folks don't want to be publicly identified with being part of the ABDL/Ageplay community because it can ruin your life if exposed. It's hard to belong to a group in which large groups of people wrongly believe are dangerous to the public and should be institutionalized or jailed. Like any group of people, you're going to have some that can't be a respectable adult for a myriad of reasons and this is what gets exemplified to public audiences which then reinforces that internalized shame to anyone who identifies with that group as you pointed out. There is no way to discipline peers that cross lines of consent or appropriateness unfortunately, so the best that can be offered is the reminder that it's not all that way even if a minority make it seem so. Ageplay/ABDL make up a large number of people and has existed long before even me and will long outlive me. Obvious ABDL items and shops aren't inherently bad but if you're new it can be complicated to both want something and hate it at the same time. Making sense of it all largely boils down to self-acceptance as I see it. Glad to converse and help understanding how I can.

Thank you for all your thoughts and support!

You're right in that most people don't tell me whether or not they are part of the abdl community because they don't need to and it wouldn't change anything. But I don't think someone is terrible for misreading the room and placing an inappropriate comment that is neither helpful nor relevant to the info at hand. I just want to call out the fact that it's not okay and that someone should consider whether the platform is an appropriate place for that comment. I have spoken hundreds of people over the past 10 years and many of them new to the cloth scene and feeling vulnerable about the whole issue of incontinence. They just want answers and inappropriate comments can make some feel intimidated. There's enough embarrassment/shame/stigma already in this space. Now, the question might be, why on earth I'd feel the need to make such a statement in the first place? But there are many things to be learned from this and I'll hash them out in a follow up video.

@@littleonioncloth9345 "But I don't think that someone is terrible for misreading the room and placing an inappropriate comment that is neither helpful nor relevant to the info at hand." Is that referring to this comment I made, because if you believe that saying you are not doing the thing, that you are doing in the same sentence, somehow makes it that you didn't say the thing, then you are delusional, and that is the info at hand. "There's enough embarrassment/shame/stigma already in this space." This is only serving to *increase* this, as is your video. Maybe there's a "lack of info at hand," because you vaguely referred to something, which may well *have* been inappropriate, but from the evidence at hand, you're upset with a *community* because some people have suggested something... "Now, the question might be, why on earth I'd feel the need to make such a statement in the first place?" I'm not sure that should be something that is still in question. If it is, then it's pretty clear that you're not addressing a situation that does exist in a way that is helpful to those involved. You've alienated a portion of your community, because you have decided that you'd respond to problematic individuals, as if they are part of that subsegment of your community. You've made a bad impression, and I *doubt* that gets remedied by further followup. Perhaps it does, but based on your taking a comment trying to explain *why* there's a problem with your video, to not address it, but merely state that you have "reasons". Good luck, and well wishes.

You do you it's your business

Thank you for your suggestion! I will definitely do more sewing machine views in the future! Do you have specific questions about attaching snaps?

Hello! You can buy the pattern here: littleonionincontinencepatterns.com/products/overnight-adult-cloth-diaper-pattern . Use the code 30OFF for 30% off your first purchase.

Oh good! I'm so glad you're liking the short sewing technique videos. My big tutorials are more of an overview and these techniques are good for sewing more than one type of product :) If there's a certain trick/technique you'd like a close up of, let me know!

@@littleonioncloth9345 I'm not currently doing any sewing, so I can't really see anything I'm having difficulty with. I really wish I could get the time to do more work on diaper cover I was working on designing. I also need to get myself some PUL/PVL or some other waterproof layer for that.

For full incontinence, your best bet would be to pair any style of absorbent diaper with a separate cover. Economically, prefolds are cheapest, but if you're sewing your own, you have a lot more options and can still stay in a budget. I have a bunch of different patterns at littleonionincontinencepatterns.com/collections/all. You can use the code 25OFF for 25% off your first purchase :)

I used heavy bamboo fleece on this one, but you could use any absorbent fabric.

Thank you!

Good for you! Sewing by hand takes some serious patience :) Let me know if there are any specific videos you'd like to see!

@@littleonioncloth9345 sure will & thank you for making the videos it helps

Thank you so much!

You're welcome!

I've sewn with pvc and vinyl. PVC can be very noisy and stiff. Honestly, I recommend finding a good quality PEVA shower curtain and using that to sew a plastic diaper cover.

You definitely can! Have you tried making a cover yet?

Thank you for your feedback! I will do better in the future to have a machine view of the sewing process. You can see a video like that on sewing FOE on the leg here: ua-cam.com/video/cp_fyuUSTjY/v-deo.html

PUL for the outer, athletic mesh for the inner layer.

Great questions! Those squares actually appear during the washing process. Most commercial prefolds are made from diaper twill (not to be confused with regular twill) or swaddle cloth, which is available in either a double or single option. As the fabric shrinks, those "squares" appear in fabric. In the video, the prefold she was using must have been one she's used and washed a bunch of times. When you purchase prefolds new, they don't have the "squares" until they've been washed a few times.

Since flooding means that too much moisture is coming too fast to a single area, your best bet would be to add more absorbency to that particular area. Since fabric needs to absorb quickly, cotton or a 3D zorb fabric would work best.

If you're a beginner sewer, all you need is a basic sewing machine. You can easily get one for under $150. If you're a more experienced sewer and hope to sew a variety of things with your machine, I would recommend paying a little more for a heavy duty machine. Heavy duty machines can handle more layers of fabric and don't slide towards you when you a pulling elastic really tight, lol. Though a non-slip mat may help with the sliding.

@@littleonioncloth9345 Thank you, for sewing plastic sheets, I guess I would need a special slider no?

@@hts6116 just a plastic/teflon foot. They're cheap and keep the plastic fabric (or laminate PUL) from sticking as it slides through the machine.