As someone in that ABDL community, thank you for what you do. I hope it's a symbiotic relationship where anyone who needs or just wants great products can have them available and advance the field. Sorry you have to deal with folks that can't be respectful towards you as a business and content creator. I do hope you hang in there and keep being awesome.
I think that ABDL and cloth incontinence products are 2 different sides of the same coin. For people exploring the use of cloth incontinence products to manage incontinence, often their first exposure to ABDL is not the incredible supportive community or really amazing people, but random comments and shops that sell obvious ABDL items. But how do you make sense of something that is surrounded by so much stigma? Maybe that's the real question at the heart of this? I don't know, I'm still figuring it out too, lol! Thank you for your comment and your thoughts :)
@@littleonioncloth9345 You are correct that functionally it's the exact same product for both markets and it's mostly just aesthetics that cater to one group over another. The stigma and shame attached to incontinence and diapers is rough in its own right. Ageplayers that choose to wear diapers have an additional level of stigma and shame to live with. I'm in one of the larger concentrated areas of the world for that market and I don't think I've run across a single person that at some point hasn't (but likely even still) struggle with the societal shame associated with who they are. It's been part of me since I was a kid before the days of the internet even and it's hard. There's no one reason anyone is in that community and it encompasses people from every walk of life and background. There is a higher than average statistical irregularity for people in the community with mental health problems, trauma, and neurodivergency is non-negligible anecdotally as I've observed over 3 decades, but that does not mean any kind of causation. There's very little formal research or representation because most folks don't want to be publicly identified with being part of the ABDL/Ageplay community because it can ruin your life if exposed. It's hard to belong to a group in which large groups of people wrongly believe are dangerous to the public and should be institutionalized or jailed. Like any group of people, you're going to have some that can't be a respectable adult for a myriad of reasons and this is what gets exemplified to public audiences which then reinforces that internalized shame to anyone who identifies with that group as you pointed out. There is no way to discipline peers that cross lines of consent or appropriateness unfortunately, so the best that can be offered is the reminder that it's not all that way even if a minority make it seem so. Ageplay/ABDL make up a large number of people and has existed long before even me and will long outlive me. Obvious ABDL items and shops aren't inherently bad but if you're new it can be complicated to both want something and hate it at the same time. Making sense of it all largely boils down to self-acceptance as I see it. Glad to converse and help understanding how I can.
My dear, your speech is very important. Congratulations on this and I am sorry that you have to hear inappropriate comments from other people. I had never thought about what you said, about ABDL having helped in some way, to create more incontinence products. And I completely agree with your goals with your brand, to make a safe place for people with incontinence. In the years that I have known ABDL, I have met incredible people, but I have also heard some inappropriate comments. It is just a matter of ignoring them and moving on, but you were excellent in making this very clear in the video. Congratulations once again for the content.
I like what you said about the cloth diaper I am incontinent and have been my hole life when I was younger people always made fun of me and called me a baby as time went on I really didn’t care being called a baby because I was still a baby at heart and love myself more and had a lot more fun being myself but to the cloth diaper I tried to make my own diaper but I was not that good at using a sewing machine so I try sewing them by hand but with one good hand and one bad hand I could not do it but at least I tried to do it I would like to see your patterns and maybe I can find someone to make them for me. You have a blessed day.
You definitely get points for trying! I've heard from a lot of people who have had to navigate incontinence since childhood and while it was never an easy journey for anyone, most have found good ways to manage it.
I'm not sure I can put this in a way that makes things clear. It's terrible that you get people who send terrible people to you, and they claim to represent a given community. As you try to point out (though you kind of aren't doing a great job, because of how you are associating those terrible people as *representing* the community) you don't want to tar the whole community as one thing. What you fail to comprehend though, is there are *similar* videos being made about, "Why x company is not an incontinence store." That to you probably sounds incomprehensible. In a lot of ways it *is* incomprehensible. But there are terrible people who are sending terrible messages to people who are claiming to be part of the incontinence community. Would you say those people represent the incontinence community? Would you see it as problematic to see a video about why their company doesn't support the incontinence community, because they have had bad experiences with these people, who claim to be of (and maybe even represent the community)? You're *attempting* to "not want to say bad things about the ABDL community," but you didn't title your video, "Why Little Onion doesn't support terrible people." You didn't talk about, "We have had terrible people who are from this community." I *have* seen terrible things said by people who *claim* to be part of the incontinence community. These are *public* things. Will I say that these people represent the incontinence community? Nope, not at all. Who are these people? Who do they represent? Well, who they represent is themselves. Who are they? They're terrible people. The vast majority of people who you interact with who *are* members of *any* community, do not tell you that. They know there's *no* need to. Please, do not judge the community based on the actions of individuals. Unless you *want* to be discriminatory, which is fair, your right.
You're right in that most people don't tell me whether or not they are part of the abdl community because they don't need to and it wouldn't change anything. But I don't think someone is terrible for misreading the room and placing an inappropriate comment that is neither helpful nor relevant to the info at hand. I just want to call out the fact that it's not okay and that someone should consider whether the platform is an appropriate place for that comment. I have spoken hundreds of people over the past 10 years and many of them new to the cloth scene and feeling vulnerable about the whole issue of incontinence. They just want answers and inappropriate comments can make some feel intimidated. There's enough embarrassment/shame/stigma already in this space. Now, the question might be, why on earth I'd feel the need to make such a statement in the first place? But there are many things to be learned from this and I'll hash them out in a follow up video.
@@littleonioncloth9345 "But I don't think that someone is terrible for misreading the room and placing an inappropriate comment that is neither helpful nor relevant to the info at hand." Is that referring to this comment I made, because if you believe that saying you are not doing the thing, that you are doing in the same sentence, somehow makes it that you didn't say the thing, then you are delusional, and that is the info at hand. "There's enough embarrassment/shame/stigma already in this space." This is only serving to *increase* this, as is your video. Maybe there's a "lack of info at hand," because you vaguely referred to something, which may well *have* been inappropriate, but from the evidence at hand, you're upset with a *community* because some people have suggested something... "Now, the question might be, why on earth I'd feel the need to make such a statement in the first place?" I'm not sure that should be something that is still in question. If it is, then it's pretty clear that you're not addressing a situation that does exist in a way that is helpful to those involved. You've alienated a portion of your community, because you have decided that you'd respond to problematic individuals, as if they are part of that subsegment of your community. You've made a bad impression, and I *doubt* that gets remedied by further followup. Perhaps it does, but based on your taking a comment trying to explain *why* there's a problem with your video, to not address it, but merely state that you have "reasons". Good luck, and well wishes.
I watched your second video. I came back, and wanted to confirm that you said that you "received inappropriate comments asking you if you are ABDL," which I would say, "that's not an inapprorpriate comment." And, I really thought that you actually said that, but no... That would have been something that I could have stated, "sorry, but there's a lot of sense with some people, that merely asking a question, is inappropriate, and I don't agree that it is." The thing is, you didn't *ever* explain what sort of, "inappropriate" comments you *have* received. Which makes it very difficult to take your comments as anything other than using your uncomfortableness with something you don't understand, and don't really seem to *want* to understand, and "I'm not kink shaming, but it's inappropriate to be this..." Your extensive use of what Wikipedia calls "weasel words" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word makes it difficult to be clear that you *are* making a good faith statement here, as your statement is clearly not willing to be "interpreted clearly." Whether you are doing it, "to be safe," or to hide your intention, or what, is impossible to say. What is clear, is that this kind of video you posted *increases* stigma, both for the incontenence community, and the ABDL, and age regression communities. Often good intentioned, "avoiding creating stigma," accomplishes quite the opposite.
You’re talking about her like she’s a politician. She’s a small business owner who makes incontinence products. I have no idea how you got this from her video that is overwhelmingly positive towards all parties. Don’t be willfully ignorant, our community has a loud minority of people who probably asked her all manner of sexual questions and she has every right to not like that.
@@rowan-priince1860 You're talking about me like I'm a politician. I'm a small individual person who uses incontence products. I have no idea how you got this from my post that is overwhelmingly positive towards all parties. Don't be willfully ignorant. Sorry... There *may* be "all manner of sexual questions..." But if that were the case, then why would she not be clear about it? I have seen a *lot* of people make vague hurtful claims, which when I *can* check the source of the claim, they are *entirely* unfounded that they are anything along as serious as they make out. I didn't get it from *her*. What I got from her, was a claim, which is *unfounded* in what she said, and a Bayesian analysis of previous such claims, that the *vast* majority (like 90% are *entirely* baseless, and based on, "I felt slightly uncomfortable, so I'm going to make a claim about how terribly toxic this person is." *I* have had comments that *could* be considered genuinely inappropriate. Such as your own... Should I report that *your* comment is "genuinely inapprorpiate". It's not of a "Sexual nature," but you know nothing about me, and I *doubt* any more about her than I do. But you *have* to come and defend her. Why is it not OK with you to criticise someone? Well... Why is it not OK with you for someone else to criticise someone... But entirely OK with you to go around making wildly unfounded claims about people?
@@JigmeDatse I’m genuinely confused where you saw hostility in her video, that’s why I responded. You can be critical of her, I’m just not seeing the things you’re criticizing. My “willfully ignorant” comment was not about your comment as a whole, but specifically due to you acting as though sexual, invasive, and otherwise uncomfortable questions are some kind of rarity. I’m in this community, I’ve posted innocuous things on places like Reddit and gotten DM’d questions and comments that were not respectful. I’ve also gotten them from other communities, it just happens in spaces where sex, kink or fetish comes up. I also think it’s unfair to imply that she should have to air out exactly what these people said, because again, I think most ABDLs know exactly what she’s talking about.
@@rowan-priince1860 Here you start saying that you are, "genuinely confused..." But I'm going to take some of your language, and give you a good idea about why it is that you are, "genuinely confused." Looking at my initial comment, I have even more to say: > but specifically due to you acting as though sexual, invasive, and otherwise uncomfortable questions are some kind of rarity. Where did I suggest that? Exactly where did I say the thing you are accusing me of saying? This *specific* comment (the original) was in response to watching the same video *specifically* looking as to what *was* said about what "inappropriate" comments were made. I didn't state that such were *not* made. I stated she *specifically* didn't say the *nature* of those comments: > I’m in this community, I’ve posted innocuous things on places like Reddit and gotten DM’d questions and comments that were not respectful. Yes, that does happen... You're going to find it very hard to actually point to where I said otherwise. In case you failed to comprehend... My opening response to you, was an almost *direct* quote of what you said to me. And *that* is what you pulled out of it, being, "not OK" specifically. Which is exactly *why* I responded in that way. Your comment *was* inappropriate, and looking at what I said that you *were* responding to, I was probably overly generous that you, "just didn't understand," but rather that you didn't really bother to take the time to *try* to understand. You saw criticism, and you jumped and made up a story about that criticism. > it just happens in spaces where sex, kink or fetish comes up. If you think that's the only place it comes up... I think you're incredibly lucky. Or maybe incredibly privilaged... I've seen it in *children's games* where there's a social component. > I also think it’s unfair to imply that she should have to air out exactly what these people said, because again, I think most ABDLs know exactly what she’s talking about. I'm not asking for an "airing out" of "exactly what was said." I'm pointing to when you state that, "an inappropriate thing was said..." and you give *zero* context, everyone *has* to *assume* what it is. You are *not* adding anything to the conversation. I don't even come *close* to knowing what she's talking about. That's because I'm loath to make assumptions, about parts of a conversation I'm not a party to. Sadly, it seems that you are willing to make assumptions about a conversation you are actively engaged in, and make judgements based on those assumptions, which are based on "knowledge" not in evidence, that you could *literally* see is not there if you didn't just decide that it was TL;DR, and reply anyway.
@@JigmeDatse Forgive my ignorance, if that's even in your nature... I don't understand your chastising (hostile?) response, to this video, what-so-ever... I get the impression, that your verbosity, isn't to be thorough, and/or articulate, yet seems to just be trying to bash compliance, to your way of thinking... I, personally, have 50+ years of incontinence-experience, both of self, and with caring for others, and also, around 40+years with DL/AB (in that order), which includes the emotional well-being of both primary types, and everything in-between... My take-away from this video, is in leaning emotional protection towards IC, without any shame or judgement, on AB/DL - yet which even in the AB/DL support (not fetish, strictly), there are some stand-out persons, who don't seem to have the social filters, or self-control, to better manage their erotic, or fantasy aspects - as was said _"read the room"_ and make their comments and inquiries, more appropriately (in private, or public forums); and with that, trying to be everything, to everyone - any AB/DL, can comfortably source products, and services from IC-only, outlets - however, the degree of shame, and embarrassment for those with IC-only, and the utter bazaar, confusing, and otherwise unconventionality, of the AB/DL types (to them) - can and likely does, scare them off from getting the support and products, they're looking for, and need. TL:DR: There's nothing exclusionary about this video - only a preference to reach the IC-only, first, and foremost. As far as AB/DL outlets, wanting to preference AB/DL's over IC, well, IC is medical, and typically, they can charge more, for AB/DL products, as much because, their consumption is optional... Best regards-
As someone in that ABDL community, thank you for what you do. I hope it's a symbiotic relationship where anyone who needs or just wants great products can have them available and advance the field. Sorry you have to deal with folks that can't be respectful towards you as a business and content creator. I do hope you hang in there and keep being awesome.
I think that ABDL and cloth incontinence products are 2 different sides of the same coin. For people exploring the use of cloth incontinence products to manage incontinence, often their first exposure to ABDL is not the incredible supportive community or really amazing people, but random comments and shops that sell obvious ABDL items. But how do you make sense of something that is surrounded by so much stigma? Maybe that's the real question at the heart of this? I don't know, I'm still figuring it out too, lol! Thank you for your comment and your thoughts :)
@@littleonioncloth9345 You are correct that functionally it's the exact same product for both markets and it's mostly just aesthetics that cater to one group over another. The stigma and shame attached to incontinence and diapers is rough in its own right. Ageplayers that choose to wear diapers have an additional level of stigma and shame to live with. I'm in one of the larger concentrated areas of the world for that market and I don't think I've run across a single person that at some point hasn't (but likely even still) struggle with the societal shame associated with who they are. It's been part of me since I was a kid before the days of the internet even and it's hard. There's no one reason anyone is in that community and it encompasses people from every walk of life and background. There is a higher than average statistical irregularity for people in the community with mental health problems, trauma, and neurodivergency is non-negligible anecdotally as I've observed over 3 decades, but that does not mean any kind of causation. There's very little formal research or representation because most folks don't want to be publicly identified with being part of the ABDL/Ageplay community because it can ruin your life if exposed. It's hard to belong to a group in which large groups of people wrongly believe are dangerous to the public and should be institutionalized or jailed. Like any group of people, you're going to have some that can't be a respectable adult for a myriad of reasons and this is what gets exemplified to public audiences which then reinforces that internalized shame to anyone who identifies with that group as you pointed out. There is no way to discipline peers that cross lines of consent or appropriateness unfortunately, so the best that can be offered is the reminder that it's not all that way even if a minority make it seem so. Ageplay/ABDL make up a large number of people and has existed long before even me and will long outlive me. Obvious ABDL items and shops aren't inherently bad but if you're new it can be complicated to both want something and hate it at the same time. Making sense of it all largely boils down to self-acceptance as I see it. Glad to converse and help understanding how I can.
My dear, your speech is very important. Congratulations on this and I am sorry that you have to hear inappropriate comments from other people. I had never thought about what you said, about ABDL having helped in some way, to create more incontinence products. And I completely agree with your goals with your brand, to make a safe place for people with incontinence. In the years that I have known ABDL, I have met incredible people, but I have also heard some inappropriate comments. It is just a matter of ignoring them and moving on, but you were excellent in making this very clear in the video. Congratulations once again for the content.
Thank you for all your thoughts and support!
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I like what you said about the cloth diaper I am incontinent and have been my hole life when I was younger people always made fun of me and called me a baby as time went on I really didn’t care being called a baby because I was still a baby at heart and love myself more and had a lot more fun being myself but to the cloth diaper I tried to make my own diaper but I was not that good at using a sewing machine so I try sewing them by hand but with one good hand and one bad hand I could not do it but at least I tried to do it I would like to see your patterns and maybe I can find someone to make them for me. You have a blessed day.
You definitely get points for trying! I've heard from a lot of people who have had to navigate incontinence since childhood and while it was never an easy journey for anyone, most have found good ways to manage it.
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I am not abdl I have to wear diaper all the time as I am disabled and look for alternative diaper
Thank you for sharing. Finding a product that works, is affordable, and nice to skin can be really tough.
I'm not sure I can put this in a way that makes things clear. It's terrible that you get people who send terrible people to you, and they claim to represent a given community. As you try to point out (though you kind of aren't doing a great job, because of how you are associating those terrible people as *representing* the community) you don't want to tar the whole community as one thing.
What you fail to comprehend though, is there are *similar* videos being made about, "Why x company is not an incontinence store." That to you probably sounds incomprehensible. In a lot of ways it *is* incomprehensible. But there are terrible people who are sending terrible messages to people who are claiming to be part of the incontinence community.
Would you say those people represent the incontinence community?
Would you see it as problematic to see a video about why their company doesn't support the incontinence community, because they have had bad experiences with these people, who claim to be of (and maybe even represent the community)?
You're *attempting* to "not want to say bad things about the ABDL community," but you didn't title your video, "Why Little Onion doesn't support terrible people." You didn't talk about, "We have had terrible people who are from this community."
I *have* seen terrible things said by people who *claim* to be part of the incontinence community. These are *public* things. Will I say that these people represent the incontinence community? Nope, not at all.
Who are these people? Who do they represent? Well, who they represent is themselves. Who are they? They're terrible people.
The vast majority of people who you interact with who *are* members of *any* community, do not tell you that. They know there's *no* need to. Please, do not judge the community based on the actions of individuals. Unless you *want* to be discriminatory, which is fair, your right.
You're right in that most people don't tell me whether or not they are part of the abdl community because they don't need to and it wouldn't change anything. But I don't think someone is terrible for misreading the room and placing an inappropriate comment that is neither helpful nor relevant to the info at hand. I just want to call out the fact that it's not okay and that someone should consider whether the platform is an appropriate place for that comment. I have spoken hundreds of people over the past 10 years and many of them new to the cloth scene and feeling vulnerable about the whole issue of incontinence. They just want answers and inappropriate comments can make some feel intimidated. There's enough embarrassment/shame/stigma already in this space. Now, the question might be, why on earth I'd feel the need to make such a statement in the first place? But there are many things to be learned from this and I'll hash them out in a follow up video.
@@littleonioncloth9345 "But I don't think that someone is terrible for misreading the room and placing an inappropriate comment that is neither helpful nor relevant to the info at hand."
Is that referring to this comment I made, because if you believe that saying you are not doing the thing, that you are doing in the same sentence, somehow makes it that you didn't say the thing, then you are delusional, and that is the info at hand.
"There's enough embarrassment/shame/stigma already in this space."
This is only serving to *increase* this, as is your video. Maybe there's a "lack of info at hand," because you vaguely referred to something, which may well *have* been inappropriate, but from the evidence at hand, you're upset with a *community* because some people have suggested something...
"Now, the question might be, why on earth I'd feel the need to make such a statement in the first place?"
I'm not sure that should be something that is still in question. If it is, then it's pretty clear that you're not addressing a situation that does exist in a way that is helpful to those involved.
You've alienated a portion of your community, because you have decided that you'd respond to problematic individuals, as if they are part of that subsegment of your community.
You've made a bad impression, and I *doubt* that gets remedied by further followup. Perhaps it does, but based on your taking a comment trying to explain *why* there's a problem with your video, to not address it, but merely state that you have "reasons".
Good luck, and well wishes.
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I watched your second video. I came back, and wanted to confirm that you said that you "received inappropriate comments asking you if you are ABDL," which I would say, "that's not an inapprorpriate comment." And, I really thought that you actually said that, but no... That would have been something that I could have stated, "sorry, but there's a lot of sense with some people, that merely asking a question, is inappropriate, and I don't agree that it is."
The thing is, you didn't *ever* explain what sort of, "inappropriate" comments you *have* received. Which makes it very difficult to take your comments as anything other than using your uncomfortableness with something you don't understand, and don't really seem to *want* to understand, and "I'm not kink shaming, but it's inappropriate to be this..."
Your extensive use of what Wikipedia calls "weasel words" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word makes it difficult to be clear that you *are* making a good faith statement here, as your statement is clearly not willing to be "interpreted clearly." Whether you are doing it, "to be safe," or to hide your intention, or what, is impossible to say.
What is clear, is that this kind of video you posted *increases* stigma, both for the incontenence community, and the ABDL, and age regression communities.
Often good intentioned, "avoiding creating stigma," accomplishes quite the opposite.
You’re talking about her like she’s a politician. She’s a small business owner who makes incontinence products. I have no idea how you got this from her video that is overwhelmingly positive towards all parties. Don’t be willfully ignorant, our community has a loud minority of people who probably asked her all manner of sexual questions and she has every right to not like that.
@@rowan-priince1860 You're talking about me like I'm a politician. I'm a small individual person who uses incontence products. I have no idea how you got this from my post that is overwhelmingly positive towards all parties. Don't be willfully ignorant.
Sorry... There *may* be "all manner of sexual questions..." But if that were the case, then why would she not be clear about it?
I have seen a *lot* of people make vague hurtful claims, which when I *can* check the source of the claim, they are *entirely* unfounded that they are anything along as serious as they make out.
I didn't get it from *her*. What I got from her, was a claim, which is *unfounded* in what she said, and a Bayesian analysis of previous such claims, that the *vast* majority (like 90% are *entirely* baseless, and based on, "I felt slightly uncomfortable, so I'm going to make a claim about how terribly toxic this person is."
*I* have had comments that *could* be considered genuinely inappropriate.
Such as your own... Should I report that *your* comment is "genuinely inapprorpiate". It's not of a "Sexual nature," but you know nothing about me, and I *doubt* any more about her than I do.
But you *have* to come and defend her. Why is it not OK with you to criticise someone? Well... Why is it not OK with you for someone else to criticise someone... But entirely OK with you to go around making wildly unfounded claims about people?
@@JigmeDatse I’m genuinely confused where you saw hostility in her video, that’s why I responded. You can be critical of her, I’m just not seeing the things you’re criticizing. My “willfully ignorant” comment was not about your comment as a whole, but specifically due to you acting as though sexual, invasive, and otherwise uncomfortable questions are some kind of rarity. I’m in this community, I’ve posted innocuous things on places like Reddit and gotten DM’d questions and comments that were not respectful. I’ve also gotten them from other communities, it just happens in spaces where sex, kink or fetish comes up. I also think it’s unfair to imply that she should have to air out exactly what these people said, because again, I think most ABDLs know exactly what she’s talking about.
@@rowan-priince1860 Here you start saying that you are, "genuinely confused..." But I'm going to take some of your language, and give you a good idea about why it is that you are, "genuinely confused." Looking at my initial comment, I have even more to say:
> but specifically due to you acting as though sexual, invasive, and otherwise uncomfortable questions are some kind of rarity.
Where did I suggest that? Exactly where did I say the thing you are accusing me of saying?
This *specific* comment (the original) was in response to watching the same video *specifically* looking as to what *was* said about what "inappropriate" comments were made. I didn't state that such were *not* made. I stated she *specifically* didn't say the *nature* of those comments:
> I’m in this community, I’ve posted innocuous things on places like Reddit and gotten DM’d questions and comments that were not respectful.
Yes, that does happen... You're going to find it very hard to actually point to where I said otherwise.
In case you failed to comprehend... My opening response to you, was an almost *direct* quote of what you said to me. And *that* is what you pulled out of it, being, "not OK" specifically. Which is exactly *why* I responded in that way.
Your comment *was* inappropriate, and looking at what I said that you *were* responding to, I was probably overly generous that you, "just didn't understand," but rather that you didn't really bother to take the time to *try* to understand.
You saw criticism, and you jumped and made up a story about that criticism.
> it just happens in spaces where sex, kink or fetish comes up.
If you think that's the only place it comes up... I think you're incredibly lucky. Or maybe incredibly privilaged... I've seen it in *children's games* where there's a social component.
> I also think it’s unfair to imply that she should have to air out exactly what these people said, because again, I think most ABDLs know exactly what she’s talking about.
I'm not asking for an "airing out" of "exactly what was said." I'm pointing to when you state that, "an inappropriate thing was said..." and you give *zero* context, everyone *has* to *assume* what it is. You are *not* adding anything to the conversation.
I don't even come *close* to knowing what she's talking about. That's because I'm loath to make assumptions, about parts of a conversation I'm not a party to.
Sadly, it seems that you are willing to make assumptions about a conversation you are actively engaged in, and make judgements based on those assumptions, which are based on "knowledge" not in evidence, that you could *literally* see is not there if you didn't just decide that it was TL;DR, and reply anyway.
@@JigmeDatse Forgive my ignorance, if that's even in your nature... I don't understand your chastising (hostile?) response, to this video, what-so-ever... I get the impression, that your verbosity, isn't to be thorough, and/or articulate, yet seems to just be trying to bash compliance, to your way of thinking...
I, personally, have 50+ years of incontinence-experience, both of self, and with caring for others, and also, around 40+years with DL/AB (in that order), which includes the emotional well-being of both primary types, and everything in-between... My take-away from this video, is in leaning emotional protection towards IC, without any shame or judgement, on AB/DL - yet which even in the AB/DL support (not fetish, strictly), there are some stand-out persons, who don't seem to have the social filters, or self-control, to better manage their erotic, or fantasy aspects - as was said _"read the room"_ and make their comments and inquiries, more appropriately (in private, or public forums); and with that, trying to be everything, to everyone - any AB/DL, can comfortably source products, and services from IC-only, outlets - however, the degree of shame, and embarrassment for those with IC-only, and the utter bazaar, confusing, and otherwise unconventionality, of the AB/DL types (to them) - can and likely does, scare them off from getting the support and products, they're looking for, and need.
TL:DR: There's nothing exclusionary about this video - only a preference to reach the IC-only, first, and foremost. As far as AB/DL outlets, wanting to preference AB/DL's over IC, well, IC is medical, and typically, they can charge more, for AB/DL products, as much because, their consumption is optional...
Best regards-