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Alec Bourne - Midi Mad Scientist
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Here is a guide as to how this channel works.
I’m Alec Bourne, Jokingly referred to as a Midi Mad Scientist fairly often and I have hijacked UA-cam and Facebook together to try and build a sort of Research Engine.
So for my fellow researchers in all things Sound and Light, you’ll find a wealth of catalogued Playlists with raw info from all over the net. Any ideas and projects I’m developing, beta testing results once they can actually be made public. Etc etc
I’m working on Pretty much a staging ground for testing I’m doing as the Line6 Midi Mad Scientist Club, also content dedicated to The Strymon Iridium Owners Club and the WAZA Air Owners Club. The TC Electronics Plethora X5 group. It’s a fast growing and wide reaching list of tools and above all techniques which serve an anchor project - The Mini Dream Rig.
To get the most out I’d say join any of those groups to get in on the full story.
If you’d like a consultation give me a buzz.
I’m Alec Bourne, Jokingly referred to as a Midi Mad Scientist fairly often and I have hijacked UA-cam and Facebook together to try and build a sort of Research Engine.
So for my fellow researchers in all things Sound and Light, you’ll find a wealth of catalogued Playlists with raw info from all over the net. Any ideas and projects I’m developing, beta testing results once they can actually be made public. Etc etc
I’m working on Pretty much a staging ground for testing I’m doing as the Line6 Midi Mad Scientist Club, also content dedicated to The Strymon Iridium Owners Club and the WAZA Air Owners Club. The TC Electronics Plethora X5 group. It’s a fast growing and wide reaching list of tools and above all techniques which serve an anchor project - The Mini Dream Rig.
To get the most out I’d say join any of those groups to get in on the full story.
If you’d like a consultation give me a buzz.
Capturing a Guitar session by video and dissecting katana Go tones to build midi automation.
A few days ago. I started trying this idea of doing both a front facing video room capture and an iPad screen capture at the same time.
The audio captured is IN THE ROOM via the iPad Pro gen3 stereo mics, in playback over Bluetooth to my Nuraphones and also via the Air EX’s Bluetooth the sound seems fairly faithful and you will hear the acoustic sound of the strings when plucked and then the following delays in playback. If recording this via the Dolby On App you’s get the usb output only - maybe an idea to try that next.
It is not too often I really sit and listen to my own playback so trying this split of controller and player views kinda helps that.
The warts and all approach of being able to hear switch strikes, changes in pickups and having dual views of the same changes in tone to me it lets me review both sonically with no distractions of the apps, and then in app view I can try sifting out the setups of parameters in the BOSS Katana chains and rebuild em in the hxstomp. - an idea to test drive other drop and polyphonic pitch bends, in helix, and also with The Gamechanger Bigsby Pedal up front,
Yesterday I sat and really listened then sectioned up the video for easier seeking.
This runs through using the katana Go as the main guitar path.
In the beginning I’m running kat air ex as a backup path and playing through extra fx and delays.
I then drop to just the Go, by silencing the K-Air side and really work using the pedal blend and wah’s .
Did a good mess with the DC30 as both chorus and then as a 3rd echo delay in the Go’s chain.
Call it a guided noodle I guess but I’m trying to review what happens in a test drive and keeping track of what parameters I tend to get pulled towards when in the moment.
The sounds that most interested me:
Delays, trying out up to 5 delays active by mixing the Air EX and the GO chains in parallel.
Getting the Halo effect going
Go only 3 delay preset
Messing with the Feedback values in delay 1, 2, 3.
Kat Go only:
Pedal fx block:
Pedal Blend - in this play through I’m using my fingers to run the pedal fx. For the blend you would probably want a mix of an expression pedal and several specific drop levels. -24, -22, - 18, a sweep from -18 to +4, a sweep from +4 to + 14, a jump to +18,
Sounds here combined with the slow gear range from drums, to crystal gongs, to rumbling basslines. These would make good use of the pirate midi controllers !
If I keep getting pulled into using certain effects, some of that can be automated easily using OnSong.
One thing for sure, reviewing your own playing a day later, both by video and by ear will teach you a lot and make future mods .
00:00 Start with K-Air MIDI
00:46 Air EX preset 2 - lots of octaver choices to compare against the pedal blend.
01:02 Air EX preset 1… centa overdrive into octaver with dual pan delays and plate reverb - to run in parallel with the Go.
01:24 Air EX preset 3 - an exact copy of the 3C Ambient Clean patch with some choice fx on tap - supporting the Go.
01:18 Humaniser effect on Green
02:37 Let’s go with Purely the Go’s Ambient Clean and get to modding it.
03:15 Two octave drops to start a bass line.
03:35 Ethereal Zone +4 or 5 on the pedal blend.
03:43 Crystal jangles +21 to +23 maybe avoid full +24 or add EQ.
04:13 Crybaby Wah
05:33 Reso Wah
05:47 Pitch Blend effect.
07:30 Good old Earthly Rumbles
07:38 Eyes off the dials and pads - now just listen.
07:54 all drones are done by hand in the moment, a little excessive, to be adjusted down a bit.
08:29 Guitar Volume n Tone knobs adjusted.
09:17 In the room this produces a very 3D sound via the Air Ex speakers, modulating delay very evident.
10:38 Good Chorusing
11:49 Super dropped Bass line - what a rumble!
12:34 Crystals
12:57 Didgeridoo
14:35 Gongs - Tambourines?
15:41 Heavy drops - basslines for looping over.
The audio captured is IN THE ROOM via the iPad Pro gen3 stereo mics, in playback over Bluetooth to my Nuraphones and also via the Air EX’s Bluetooth the sound seems fairly faithful and you will hear the acoustic sound of the strings when plucked and then the following delays in playback. If recording this via the Dolby On App you’s get the usb output only - maybe an idea to try that next.
It is not too often I really sit and listen to my own playback so trying this split of controller and player views kinda helps that.
The warts and all approach of being able to hear switch strikes, changes in pickups and having dual views of the same changes in tone to me it lets me review both sonically with no distractions of the apps, and then in app view I can try sifting out the setups of parameters in the BOSS Katana chains and rebuild em in the hxstomp. - an idea to test drive other drop and polyphonic pitch bends, in helix, and also with The Gamechanger Bigsby Pedal up front,
Yesterday I sat and really listened then sectioned up the video for easier seeking.
This runs through using the katana Go as the main guitar path.
In the beginning I’m running kat air ex as a backup path and playing through extra fx and delays.
I then drop to just the Go, by silencing the K-Air side and really work using the pedal blend and wah’s .
Did a good mess with the DC30 as both chorus and then as a 3rd echo delay in the Go’s chain.
Call it a guided noodle I guess but I’m trying to review what happens in a test drive and keeping track of what parameters I tend to get pulled towards when in the moment.
The sounds that most interested me:
Delays, trying out up to 5 delays active by mixing the Air EX and the GO chains in parallel.
Getting the Halo effect going
Go only 3 delay preset
Messing with the Feedback values in delay 1, 2, 3.
Kat Go only:
Pedal fx block:
Pedal Blend - in this play through I’m using my fingers to run the pedal fx. For the blend you would probably want a mix of an expression pedal and several specific drop levels. -24, -22, - 18, a sweep from -18 to +4, a sweep from +4 to + 14, a jump to +18,
Sounds here combined with the slow gear range from drums, to crystal gongs, to rumbling basslines. These would make good use of the pirate midi controllers !
If I keep getting pulled into using certain effects, some of that can be automated easily using OnSong.
One thing for sure, reviewing your own playing a day later, both by video and by ear will teach you a lot and make future mods .
00:00 Start with K-Air MIDI
00:46 Air EX preset 2 - lots of octaver choices to compare against the pedal blend.
01:02 Air EX preset 1… centa overdrive into octaver with dual pan delays and plate reverb - to run in parallel with the Go.
01:24 Air EX preset 3 - an exact copy of the 3C Ambient Clean patch with some choice fx on tap - supporting the Go.
01:18 Humaniser effect on Green
02:37 Let’s go with Purely the Go’s Ambient Clean and get to modding it.
03:15 Two octave drops to start a bass line.
03:35 Ethereal Zone +4 or 5 on the pedal blend.
03:43 Crystal jangles +21 to +23 maybe avoid full +24 or add EQ.
04:13 Crybaby Wah
05:33 Reso Wah
05:47 Pitch Blend effect.
07:30 Good old Earthly Rumbles
07:38 Eyes off the dials and pads - now just listen.
07:54 all drones are done by hand in the moment, a little excessive, to be adjusted down a bit.
08:29 Guitar Volume n Tone knobs adjusted.
09:17 In the room this produces a very 3D sound via the Air Ex speakers, modulating delay very evident.
10:38 Good Chorusing
11:49 Super dropped Bass line - what a rumble!
12:34 Crystals
12:57 Didgeridoo
14:35 Gongs - Tambourines?
15:41 Heavy drops - basslines for looping over.
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Ultimate Deserted Island Rig! 😊
Endless options, so cool! Makes me want to go back to 4cable with my GX100 and artist, kind of missing having more options.
@joewrockg42 the geeky side of me luvs this stuff and anything that involves/ inpsires me to pick up my guitar is an even better reason to geek out 🙃
This is monumental and super sweet!! Def have to check out OneSong.BTW, I love JIF, especially crunchy JIF 🙃
Clean, Crunch and Brown Sauce
But..... does it djent ?
In every single preset you can flick though multiple amp and drive settings with MIDI. In both paths. It does everything but make coffee
@@AlecBourneMidiMadScientist I dream the day a pedal can make me a cup of coffee....😂
Very interesting…..I’m completely new to midi….can you recommend some introductory videos? Thanks
I would recommend you to join my various groups on Facebook. The Line6 Midi Mad Scientist Club I created to gather up midi enthusiasts and there you have a good community to help you get into the basics and move on up to fairly advanced stuff. That linked to many different groups covering controllers and connecting up midi pedals and making it all dance. Some great basic video content I'd recommend Scott Uhl's channel. He is a good guy. There are also some great midi books by Simon Glover over at Pirate Midi. I find for explaining this stuff the communities are really the best way to learn. If you like I do one on one lessons and consulting for getting your feet wet by video chats. Get in touch if interested. Usually I can take a total midi newbie to the stage of programming inside two 30 minute video sessions. It will really help if you run iOS , plenty of free apps in that to get started and figure out what gear you may need.
this was great! thank you,
very cool
perfection!
Sorry to bother you, but have you managed to send midi PC changes via usb or Bluetooth to the Katana Go? If so can you share?
You can yes but not natively, this does not exist, instead what I’m using here to make it work is an app available for iOS only, you know iPad, iPhone or a MacBook with m1 or better processor, it is called MIDI Patch from Stephane Villeneuve. Solves everything for the katana Go. You can use it with any midi controller or app.
Great Thanks.
You're a mad man! Wow dude!
Hmm. Just playing this back on my little Redmi android and where is all the bass ? I guess these things seriously cut out a lot of low end. I gotta do a few more of these. There's a good lo-fi trick to recording audio live at points in the room and then sending it over Bluetooth later and playing over that. Nice to wiggle with the room acoustics
👍👍👍
Boss erase my comments but I’ll keep posting These devices are advertised as "Fully customizable", and it is not true, they are Locked for CC#'s 32-63 and 95-127. Your support answer was: Unfortunately, the FS-1-WL can not transit CC#'s 32-63 and 95-127,
Yeah there are for sure those holes in the midi cc, I dunno why this is either. For me this controller is extremely limited, it would appear by design to be done this way. I'd recommend another one unless you're really stuck.
Can’t hear you
Add volume...
Really cool Alec!
Useful video, thank you. I assume this is only possible with the full airstep as I can’t see any way of linking the Lite to the plethora over Bluetooth.
You could connect a lite by adding a Widi jack to the plethora X5. I'd recommend the SMC airstep all the same, a lite is great but I'd rather have the ability to connect with cables in the event you're in a spot that has massive WiFi routers, widi are very reliable but you can't really predict what you run into in a club
This is where it all comes from. Helix floor inspired, only this starts to take steps out into the light.
Towards the end - you're describing my use of the Helix as a midi controller calling up presets in other devices in my rig. Its the way forward !
How much is it, I need one
Go find Christian Graff on Facebook and he will make you one to order, I don't know how much for just one I got 3 different types from him, a dongle, a cabled vdi dongle and finally the WIDI Jack adapter. You'll want to ask him for whichever you want. He was very reasonable, just covering his time and parts. Bit of a labour of love for the Variax community so they can keep on using it without a full helix and vdi cable
Incredible!
WTF!
Cool nice to find other solutions. Will be nice to investigate for easy paddle boards to switch all the preset from the Katana Go By the way, I have only that katana go! Thanks, very inspiring!
Good luck!
I have this and it's alright but no where near the spark for playing backtracks or learning in that way at least. It does sound nice like an amp in the room but I can not for the life of me to get it to play music straight from my phone over Bluetooth? Maybe you can show how to do that ?
There’s really nothing difficult about it, the EX had two Bluetooth feeds, midi and audio. In your phone’s Bluetooth you just connect to katana Air Audio feed like any other Bluetooth speaker and play your tunes. And no. Definitely isn’t anything at all like the positive grid ecosystem .
@AlecBourneMidiMadScientist ya I connect to midi and nothing comes out of my katana. I do the same way on my 40 watt spark and it works fine . Thanks
@@hogger88 for audio connect to the katana Audio, not the midi, midi is for the bts app
@@AlecBourneMidiMadScientist ya I know, I figured it out .my phone did not show the Bluetooth music play connection only the MIDI,so I ended up long pressing the Bluetooth button on my Katana Air EX and all of a sudden it showed up on my phone asking to pair and boom it all works lol.
Will there be an android version?
Not in the foreseeable future as far as I know, Stephane works in iOS only.
Glad I found your video this morning here in Motown. Love that set up!! I need some advise. I'm currently planning out a complete battery operated mobile 8trk recording studio. My goal is to carry everything in both hands and in a backpack and in both hands. I was going to use everything that would take AA batteries, like my pedalboard power supply, drum machine, and Tascam 8trk recorder. They all take AA batteries. Is there a rechargeable battery that I could charge at home that would power my set up so I wouldn't need to buy and mess with all the AA batterys?? That would be a game changer for me right now. Thanks for any tips!! ✌
Depends on the gear involved, most guitar stuff runs 9v dc center negative, you have loads of options, I intend to run with mission engineering 529’s, there are a bunch. Typically these days you connect bigger 5v or packs with PD usb c to a mission 529 and you’ll get all the power you need. I’d say joint the line6 midi mad scientist club and you can present your actual gear for a proper think and answer
I’m gonna have to grab one of these one day
Any of those Gamechanger pedals will do you well, proper design, they’re seriously works of art !
Nice, wanted to say I love the switch layout on the Architect. Makes so much more sense for us big footers. 🤘🏻
Tell us what’s going on? I’m using the Boss FS1-WL, but it’s very limited. So I’m interested. 👍🤘
Right, what is happening here is this, hxstomp has a widi master which sends cc messages from command center on each snapshot, that runs wireless to my iPad, into the midi patch app which spits out sysex messages to choose presets wirelessly inside the Katana Go, so this is a totally wireless midi solution. The app is called MIDI PATCH, it is in development by Stephan Villeneuve, Same author of the W-air midi and K-air MIDI apps for the WAZA and katana airs. It will hopefully be published on the App Store. If you’re on Facebook hit him up and tell him you’re interested. This is unfortunately an iOS only app. This app is a super power solution as you can stack multiple midi messages, so jumping to a preset and toggling various effects is possible, this would give the presets in the katana go their own snapshot like capabilities, it’ll map to ANY midi controller be it hardware or apps like you use for setlist managers to jump around for you, kinda like sessions but this would let you integrate the katana go into any modeling system with midi. Lots of extra DSP for something like an hxstomp.
@@AlecBourneMidiMadScientist I see MIDI PATCH in the App Store now. Is it not possible to connect to the BOSS Katana GO via MIDI over bluetooth from MacOS? Thinking of automating MIDI changes from a MacBook running Ableton Live.
@@JeffreyRutland I should think so, but one would need to run midi patch for sure, exactly how you’d do that would depend on running it in iOS, or perhaps directly on the Mac in question if it had an m1 processor or better, this is likely a question only Stephan can answer directly. You may want to message him directly from the App Store or on Facebook
What’s the scoop? Doesn’t look like you’re using USB. Wireless midi dongle? Do tell….
Indeed no midi over usb, though you could. Using wireless like this, I’m sending to and from my iPad which is hosting a new app MIDI PATCH by Stephan Villeneuve. The WIDI master ( you could use a WIDI jack too - probably better ) connects to the iPad, iPad sends sysex back to the katana go midi feed, change snapshots and you can control the Goks signal chain. This is great for my acoustic presets as I can call up the acoustic settings in the Kat Go and then the stomp can do really heavy duty jobs like the polyphonics for acoustic simulation, 12 string, poly capo etc. Like adding another 8 blocks to the hxstomp.
I'm still overjoyed when a midi message from one device makes a change in another.
It Is bizarre that about midi gear, you of course KNOW it'll work, but when it goes right the first time it always brings a smile 😁
You're mad! Mwuhahahahahahah!!!!!
Hey Dave, the midi patch is a new thing Stephan has been fiddling with, it is basically a way to patch your midi cc and pc messages to sysex messages going out to various bits of gear, Here we are lookin at mostly the boss stuff we have so far in WAZA. Kat air and Kat air ex and we have added the GO for pokin around with, so far the two things we have control over are direct preset selections and stage selection for go. This gets to be interesting if you start using the gear together.
I think Boss should also make a desktop app
See Colin’s work in our Facebook group, he is developing a desktop alternative editor.
What is the MIDI Patch app??
Well done ! I knew you guys would come out with something like this 😊
wow. thanks Stephan and Alec.
can you help us on a 1 on 1 call?
Sure thing man, find me on Facebook. Alec Bourne we can organize a few sessions,
Hi, what cable do you use? midi-trs type a or b? Cannot find anywhere what I should use....
Pretty sure it is a type A. Boss typically is type B . Be aware that the midi cable from strymon has this big barrel with an optical isolator to stop any noise along your midi network. If you do somehow hear any weird squealing noises using an exp, then this is the likely cause. With most of my controllers this has yet to be an issue. Of course if you are looking at using multiple strymon pedals I'd recommend you get their green midi hub, it'll be perfect then and give you access to strymons Nixie editor
Have you tried plugging the Go directly into a pair of powered monitors? I'm wondering if it will sound funky, or like any other Katana direct out into monitors. I like the idea, but do not want to use headphones. Would like to use like any other modeler direct.
I've been using mine direct into the aux in on my two katanas , direct link to the stereo speakers at 15w each, the sound is really excellent . I've not tried this yet into bigger monitors but with an iLoud at 40W it also sounds fantastic. With headphones your experience may vary a bit. I've used apple cheapy headphones, Nuraphones both the in ear buds and the big boys with the over the ear and mid to high buds that side into your ear canal, very nice. A pair of powered Marley headphones also good 😊 bit of an issue with cables moving. The question I get the most is do these beat the Waza Air. I think not . But I would have to admit that using these in stereo is a great thing. If you try the spatial modes esp the custom, you do come close to the waza air magic. Definitely not as freeing but having the ability to record and output to anything you want and the full MKii signal chain and few extra stereo effects, the thing is a no brainer.
Alec - thanks for all you do! I’m a recently joined member from you FB groups and have learned a lot from you. I entered the Katana world last month with the Air EX, which has already blown me away with its capabilities for my new electric. My Katana Go arrives tomorrow and I know I’m going to be addicted to it with good headphones, and it made me wonder is there a way I could harness the Go with the EX and this video is helpful…but I don’t have the equipment you have in the chain. So a couple of questions - first, if I want to use the EX as a powered speaker for the Go via a trs aux cable, is there a way to bypass any coloration from the EX other than turning down everything except volume/master volume so it acts more like a flat response speaker? I’d want to hear externally what I could set up and hear via the headphones, so it would be more like a FRFR cabinet (which I can purchase, but I’d like to somehow avoid the cost and use the EX). My other question - what is the minimum equipment you’d recommend in the chain to use the wireless Go dongle to the EX? Is it everything you show in this video, or is there a more bare bones way. I’m a complete newbie, as I’ve only played acoustics up to last month, so no pedals, board, etc at this point.
Firstly cheers for this comment. Means a lot. So the answers are both super simple, gotta love that right. First up to use the Kat Air EX, or the old style Kat air, yes just plug in a TRS lead. There is nothing else to do. The Aux in port taps into the end of the signal chain right before the power amp and speakers. Similar to any other speaker with an aux in, it’ll just amplify the Go’s output. Second question. To use the Go wirelessly like I am, all you need is another BOSS wireless receiver. That is it. Now I’d strongly recommend the BOSS WL50. If you go check out the Facebook group you’ll see both Juca Neri and JB Aubrey are using the smaller WL20L I think it’s called, plus a dual female TRS barrel connector. I was looking around on the net yesterday for pricing on those and bang for the buck i think the WL50 is worth the little extra money. You get a charging base, it can be powered by AA batteries or 9v, you will be far far less likely to lose any bits of it, and it is super compact. I think it like 20$ more ? Worth it. If you did have issues with interference this one lets you jack in direct a guitar cable and you are back in business . This may be worth me doing a little video on, as that WL50 really is a very cool product….
Wow - both options look simple - thanks Alec!!! So for wireless, from the guitar the WL 50 transmitter wirelessly to the receiver which is connected to the GO then the GO connected to the EX by trs aux cable (you show that last connection in the video). So this would work with any amp (with amp EQ flat as possible), correct? The only thing from the original EX I wouldn’t be using would be its wireless capability from its transmitter, but at least I can utilize the practice amp for external listening. A video on this subject would be great as this indeed harnesses the “bridge” as you described so the GO gives the Katana world of patches, not just the EX limited catalog. Thanks again for your help with the Katana communities you contribute to!
@@tarkusmike yes and no. What I’ve showed in there is one wireless WL20 ( that’s what the transmitter dongle is for everything, Kat airs, WAZA air, etc the WL50 IS THE RECEIVER, that also comes with its own WL20. Now to broadcast, ie, send out the guitar over the air, both the WL50 receiver and the AirEx’s built in receiver are getting your guitar sound at the same time . It’s like you tuning two radios to the same station. So you now have the kat air ex chain, running in parallel with the katana go. This means one could be running acoustic, one could be running crunch sounds, the aux in mixes the two chains back together before it hits the EX’s speaker, Your alternative here, which is also cool. Grab any other speaker with an aux in, could be a jbl Bluetooth, and now you have 1 guitar to 2 different speakers. No fussing with phasing or the usual ground hum of a dual amp rig, because it’s all over wireless.
Thanks Alec for clarifying - I understand this much better now!
The Klon Clone before the Boss Katana:GO vs. the Klon Clone before the Boss Katana Air EX?
In this case the architect V4 was only to the katana Go. I got this as the Waza air still doesn't have any update to give the Centa OD. It's a good unit that one. Highly recommended if Matthews have now officially launched it. Mine was number ,13 off the original batch which had some cosmetic errors.
how can I link airstep and widi master?
What issue do you have ? They connect automatically for me.
@@AlecBourneMidiMadScientist I have the same issue - I am trying to get my Airstep to connect to my WIDI Master, and it simply won't connect. Part of the problem is they are supposed to auto-connect, so there is no way of 'pairing' them as such, either within the XSonic Airstep app or the WIDI app; there are no options within either of those to pair devices... I know the WIDI is working as I can send test MIDI messages via BT from my iPhone. And I know the Airstep is working with the device I want to control (Quad Cortex) as it works perfectly when I connect the Airstep and QC with a 5 pin MIDI cable. So the problem is the connection (or lack of it) between the Airstep and the WIDI Master....
I have a similar issue that I'm trying to solve right now. Trying to connect the Sonic Airstep to the CME Widi Thru6 BT. Can't get it to work !!!!
@@theRodofwar Glad it's not just me 😅 (although that doesn't really help you!) I have got it to work using the MIDIMITTR app. The app works as a bridge, and it's the only place I've found where I can tell the Airstep and WIDI Master to talk to each other. So that's great. The problem is though you have to have the app open (or running in the background) to keep the connection alive. So it's a workaround and does the job. I'm still not content though, as the Airsrep is supposed to be able to speak to the WIDI Master without any app to link them, so I'll keep trying...💪🏻
hey mate, do you know how to use a morningstar/midi controller to move up/change to presets on different banks on the Pod Go?
The new MC6 pro I believe will help you out. The issue with the podgo is it needs to have usb midi incoming to control it which means the midi controller will need to have UHOST capabilities to directly connect . Any other controller would work but you would need to arrange connectity through a phone or tablet with an app to do the job of usb host
Hi Alec. What is the app you're using there please? I have just bought a Katana Air EX, and an Airstep+Lite combo. While I wait for pending firmware updates, I'd just like to get anything working together in the meantime via an iPad or whatever if possible Update: Switched my brain on and found the K-Air Midi app. The app looks very good. I can't persuade it pick up a learned code from the Airstep but I'll persevere
For k-Air midi controls you will want to add presets with regular old simple cc messages, you can do either a basic cc to toggle or use specific values of 0 and not 0 to force a decided on or off toggle, for the volumes you send a cc and value and adjust the slide levels between 0 and 127 like any normal midi cc .
One question, is it possible to connect the boss ev 1 wl directly to the airstep lite, without a cable? Just via bluetooth?
Yes it is but stability can be a bit iffy
An update. At the end I had talked a bit about the airsteps, the firmware updates they will need to do are probably gonna slip to 1st quarter of 2024, no longer end of 2023. Let’s hope they do get on top of that, as the EX bumped up with airsteps is a thing to behold if it is running sysex and totally following the midi data sent back out from the Kat Air EX. I can’t really emphasize how rare it is to have this dual way communication with any modeller wirelessly.
nice
The sonic qualities of the smaller form OG Air combined w/ EX fullness offers exponential tonal goodness, I'm quite sure of this. I run same but w/ EX & DCLX, in stereo, with utterly fantastic results 😊
It is quite an interesting experience isn't it... Could make for some really interesting ways to rebuild presets where you split the sound across two different signal chains...I mean with double the 3 colour volumes maybe the whole boost section would get doubled, if you could pan the boost section you could either stack or store multiple versions of the drive pedals.
there is some lag when clicking FAV button on the iridium, is there any lag when changing iridium presets via midi?
Define lag ? Via midi everything is a bit faster really but I am not sure you’d notice a huge difference. Midi would though give you a lot more control, you can mix all 9 cabs with any one amp
what are the 2 white boxes in front of the Boss Katana Air Ex?
The foot controllers, an Airstep combo. 10 switches so you can manipulate the presets wirelessly, I’ve gotta throw those in the mix next and see what happens.
WD20?
That’s the official name of the BOSS transmitter. It’s the exact same one you get with all the airs, or with the WL50 base unit, and you can broadcast your guitar or pedalboards with em. One amp could be pure gain, the other could be all wet effects. Or mix and mash up the presets however you want to. I think it is something worth trying out if you meet up with your mates and you have this gear. If you had a WL50 only you could network in non boss gear like a spark amp too.
@@AlecBourneMidiMadScientist 3 Kat airs and/or (ex) , wet/dry/wet.
@@zakklee2556 that I’d like to see !