I wonder why they don’t make travel trailers with this setup. My truck is rated to tow up to 11,000 lbs but I would never be able to do that because the tongue weight alone would come close to if not exceed my payload capacity.
@@briandonald actually a new "1/2" ton can tow a good sized 5th wheel. If you want some big one, yeah, but then it also requires that kind of strength and weight to tow a big heavy trailer even with the front axle.
I am interested in finding that trailer, can anyone help? The bus is a Liberty Coach build date 1998 number 401, I now own the trailer and would like to find the trailer
Thing has to be sooo top heavy.Beautiful and design is flawless but I just see it jackknifed coming down a Mtn in the ice. Get it sideways a little hit a dry spot she’s going over. High wind in the desert. Thing is a sailplane. Hope it has a hand valve.I love it though honestly just needs a professional driver.Has to have tons of storage.
This type of trailer doesn't need tongue weight. It's purpose is to remove weight from the tow vehicle. 10"s of thousands of doubles and triples traveling the highways safely with just a few hundred pounds as tongue weight. The steering is different, more like our red wagon's we all had as children. This set-up would be perfect behind rv's as tongue weight will eventually destroy the smaller rv's. As a racer, I wish motorsports trailer manufacturers would build enclosed race trailers like this one. Competitive trailers are the only manufacturer I'm aware of that offers this. I think they call it the "Bus companion".
@@Mr.Mopar.23-7 there is a company that makes enclosed trailers with this setup, they call it the "steerite self steering trailer system". And the front axle is designed to be adjusted up/down to increase/decrease tongue weight. Yes you absolutely need tongue weight to safely haul a trailer and this system isn't designed to eliminate tongue weight, it's designed to support the majority of the load so you can safely haul 3-4 times more. The biggest concern I would have is people loading too much weight on the trailer and not having the mass to slow/stop it right but that's easily fixed with a good set of trailer breaks and a good controller setup. I have pictures on my phone of a 32' enclosed trailer with this setup that was for sale on Facebook a few months ago and if I would have had the money I would have bought it in a heartbeat! I'm looking for one for my sandrail. P.S. after doing some research the company I previously mentioned went out of business in 2005 but I'm sure you could find a fab shop that could make one.
The video says the trailer's front axle is "self steering", but that just means castered. A castered setup will not work well in reverse (that's why it's impractical to back up with a car towed four-wheels-down), so they could lock it out in reverse (making it really hard to turn) but it does appear to steer in reverse so perhaps they mechanically flip the caster the opposite way in reverse (as some buses did long ago).
That could be turned into the ultimate in horse trailer luxury! With that wheelbase, it would be ultra stable and the ride would be pretty smooth. Plus, it would be great to be able to stay in the bus at night instead of sleeping in the same trailer as the horses. I love them but, they’re noisy. Foot stomping, whinnying, farting, snoring, rattling the feed buckets, bumping the gates, etc. People don’t know just how noisy they can be in a trailer! 😂 🐴🐴
I have one that has windows and matches coach, sort of, it's a wrap.. The previous owner of Competitive trailers semi-retired and sold the company several years ago. He told me he did about a dozen of this type of trailer.
I guess if one can afford a 500 thousand dollar RV they can afford a 100 thousand dollar trailer. This is how the most basic of rv trailers should be made....minimum load hitching.
Get an old contrell 8 pack car hauler Turn the front box into the RV use the back box for the stuff. Pontoon boat and trailer up top 4door dually bottom. Harley in the nose.
A "wagon" would usually be a full trailer with the drawbar attached to the trailer's front (steering) axle, but this tows like a regular trailer with an extra castering front axle.
I think the company, or at least this product line, is long gone. I found a few listings and mentions of used units, all made in 2006 or prior. there is still a company by the name "Competitive Trailers' in the same area (Lake Havasu City, AZ) but with an entirely different phone number and not selling anything like this style of trailer.
Great hauler! Like to a little "air flow" design at the front of the hauler to reduce drag. Pretty you could order A/C units to make it liveable inside.
Since many rv's can't handle the tongue weight I wish trailer manufacturers would build motorsport trailers like this. Many racers would purchase these.
There is a company that builds and sells a dolly type of hitch that connects to the RV toll vehicle such as a gas or diesel motor home. This dolly type system carries the weight of the trailer - it looks similar to a dolly system that is used to towing a vehicle that it’s front tires are placed on it. The dolly type systems are very good sense not only do the carry the tongue weight of what your towing but it eliminates most all sway issues. I will try and locate one like I used to have many years ago. Thanks
Hello I recently bought one of these and it is really difficult to find out any information on them do you have any info or know where I could find out more? Thank you
@@bobbrown5117 these still being made? Any inventory avail that you know of? You know if this can be scaled down to smaller trailers vs the big RV units featured here? This is a GREAT idea to solve many recreational vehicle trailers (UTVs, ATVs, etc.); the steering system that is. Not everyone needs a stacker…..
This could be a middleman trailer. It would be great if you could hook up any trailer to it will become the tongue for the assembly
Bob...what happened to this guy? his phone number and email don't work
I wonder why they don’t make travel trailers with this setup. My truck is rated to tow up to 11,000 lbs but I would never be able to do that because the tongue weight alone would come close to if not exceed my payload capacity.
It is alot more expensive, a fifth wheel setup is better solution.
@@murraymadness4674 A fifth wheel might be a better solution if you have adequate payload capacity which most 1/2 ton pickups do not.
@@briandonald actually a new "1/2" ton can tow a good sized 5th wheel. If you want some big one, yeah, but then it also requires that kind of strength and weight to tow a big heavy trailer even with the front axle.
Do you have a video where the wheels do NOT turn for comparison?
Knowing how squirrely a car is on a towbar I can only imagine what this thing is like.
Just shows the massive excesses of the ultra rich.
WOW. I'd love to get a small version of this.
forget that stupid trailer, i want the blonde!!
For the ultra douchebag. The DBag trailer
I am interested in finding that trailer, can anyone help? The bus is a Liberty Coach build date 1998 number 401, I now own the trailer and would like to find the trailer
saw a video tonight with one for sale... lead me to this video to learn more. anyways here is link ua-cam.com/video/DoJ2158kq9k/v-deo.html
She's Hot, Not the trailer
Uauuuuuuuuuuuuu it´s big
It's very nice but I think if the rear axles were sterebrable it would be better
Thing has to be sooo top heavy.Beautiful and design is flawless but I just see it jackknifed coming down a Mtn in the ice. Get it sideways a little hit a dry spot she’s going over. High wind in the desert. Thing is a sailplane. Hope it has a hand valve.I love it though honestly just needs a professional driver.Has to have tons of storage.
This amazing. Very much appreciate and like the front towing system.
people cant drive the bus. now you want to add more to them.. omg
Dam nice rig right there. Imagine what it cost.... SMH..
You need proper tongue wieght for a trl to go down the road safely and this set up gives zero tongue wieght. Can you say dangerous
This type of trailer doesn't need tongue weight. It's purpose is to remove weight from the tow vehicle. 10"s of thousands of doubles and triples traveling the highways safely with just a few hundred pounds as tongue weight. The steering is different, more like our red wagon's we all had as children. This set-up would be perfect behind rv's as tongue weight will eventually destroy the smaller rv's. As a racer, I wish motorsports trailer manufacturers would build enclosed race trailers like this one. Competitive trailers are the only manufacturer I'm aware of that offers this. I think they call it the "Bus companion".
@@Mr.Mopar.23-7 there is a company that makes enclosed trailers with this setup, they call it the "steerite self steering trailer system". And the front axle is designed to be adjusted up/down to increase/decrease tongue weight. Yes you absolutely need tongue weight to safely haul a trailer and this system isn't designed to eliminate tongue weight, it's designed to support the majority of the load so you can safely haul 3-4 times more. The biggest concern I would have is people loading too much weight on the trailer and not having the mass to slow/stop it right but that's easily fixed with a good set of trailer breaks and a good controller setup. I have pictures on my phone of a 32' enclosed trailer with this setup that was for sale on Facebook a few months ago and if I would have had the money I would have bought it in a heartbeat! I'm looking for one for my sandrail. P.S. after doing some research the company I previously mentioned went out of business in 2005 but I'm sure you could find a fab shop that could make one.
The video says the trailer's front axle is "self steering", but that just means castered. A castered setup will not work well in reverse (that's why it's impractical to back up with a car towed four-wheels-down), so they could lock it out in reverse (making it really hard to turn) but it does appear to steer in reverse so perhaps they mechanically flip the caster the opposite way in reverse (as some buses did long ago).
The video looks like it was shot around the turn of the century with a TV camera (and maybe it was)... makes it hard to see the details.
Wow a portable garage on wheels, I have and 💡 idea ,why not convert this into an additional living space or guest lounge.
Awesome we like to own a trailer for our bus 🚌...
What is it's turning radius and weight rating of the axles. Can I get it with airbrakes.
Oh my gosh I need this trailer..
That could be turned into the ultimate in horse trailer luxury! With that wheelbase, it would be ultra stable and the ride would be pretty smooth. Plus, it would be great to be able to stay in the bus at night instead of sleeping in the same trailer as the horses. I love them but, they’re noisy. Foot stomping, whinnying, farting, snoring, rattling the feed buckets, bumping the gates, etc. People don’t know just how noisy they can be in a trailer! 😂 🐴🐴
Sounds like my ex girlfriend
It would be stable, but it would also be a pain on turns because the trailer's rear wheels will run so far inside of the bus rear wheels in a turn.
Nuts.
I have one that has windows and matches coach, sort of, it's a wrap.. The previous owner of Competitive trailers semi-retired and sold the company several years ago. He told me he did about a dozen of this type of trailer.
Wow. Nice.
i believe Paul Tracy of IndyCar fame had one. great design, better than the other stacker trailers out there.
Beautiful ! It could use some painted on windows to match the bus...
I would use lock nuts instead of plain nuts. Or longer bolts with a nut and locking pin.
If you're referring to the nuts on the trailer side pivot of the tongue it looks like they used steel locking nuts.
If you feel that you need a trailer of that size, you have too much stuff. It's time to downsize.
So...
Dont be a hater just work harder and one day maybe you can earn one
Great shed
The music junked another video 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎💩
Turn down the volume
I want one !,
I use Uber
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I guess if one can afford a 500 thousand dollar RV they can afford a 100 thousand dollar trailer. This is how the most basic of rv trailers should be made....minimum load hitching.
500k barely a down payment.
Ain't it Nucking Futs ! !? !?!?
@@rockingchair2807 You can easily buy a Premium Grade used Bus RV for under $500,000.
Get an old contrell 8 pack car hauler Turn the front box into the RV use the back box for the stuff. Pontoon boat and trailer up top 4door dually bottom. Harley in the nose.
Sweet
What is it with videos inflicting awful . STOP IT. No one listens to music like this.
I always mute the music. With the exception of The Hoof GP, the music selections on YT are horrible!
why watch it then you jackhole! move along!
We used to call those, Wagons!
I call it a Vardo, based on a wagon. I am so with you
A "wagon" would usually be a full trailer with the drawbar attached to the trailer's front (steering) axle, but this tows like a regular trailer with an extra castering front axle.
This is really cool . Did a search. Can't find anything else about this .
I think the company, or at least this product line, is long gone. I found a few listings and mentions of used units, all made in 2006 or prior. there is still a company by the name "Competitive Trailers' in the same area (Lake Havasu City, AZ) but with an entirely different phone number and not selling anything like this style of trailer.
Great hauler! Like to a little "air flow" design at the front of the hauler to reduce drag. Pretty you could order A/C units to make it liveable inside.
Since many rv's can't handle the tongue weight I wish trailer manufacturers would build motorsport trailers like this. Many racers would purchase these.
There is a company that builds and sells a dolly type of hitch that connects to the RV toll vehicle such as a gas or diesel motor home. This dolly type system carries the weight of the trailer - it looks similar to a dolly system that is used to towing a vehicle that it’s front tires are placed on it. The dolly type systems are very good sense not only do the carry the tongue weight of what your towing but it eliminates most all sway issues. I will try and locate one like I used to have many years ago. Thanks
It's called a trailer toad
Where I'm from we call this a hay wagon.
And hay wagons dont go down the road well at speeds
Neither do gravity bin grain wagons.
I wonder what happened to the company. Why did it go out of Business. I would like to know how many were manufactured. Great Idea…
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I wonder if they still make them
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Hello I recently bought one of these and it is really difficult to find out any information on them do you have any info or know where I could find out more? Thank you
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@@bobbrown5117 these still being made? Any inventory avail that you know of? You know if this can be scaled down to smaller trailers vs the big RV units featured here? This is a GREAT idea to solve many recreational vehicle trailers (UTVs, ATVs, etc.); the steering system that is. Not everyone needs a stacker…..