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This is the logical answer of course, the trick is trying to explain the logical conclusion with the pieces we have in a way that makes sense. It's the same thing as explaining who won a wrestling match with "The booker said so"

@@planescaped It usually turns out to be these sort of things in games when you look into development. Seldom is much planned and it's notable if someone plans out a whole story years ahead, usually a pet/personal project if so. You just can't plan such things over years and years and keep up with it, along with have other members remember and be on the same page.

I always thought Little Viki was from a parallel universe rather than a clone. Viki herself could have a True Rune but we only see the Blinking Rune much like we only see a Wind Rune on Luc in S1&2 and the Eight Devil Rune on Yuber in S3. I believe Jeane is an ancient android, possible Simeon too. Loving this Suikoden content btw!

Wait, there are MULTIPLE JEANES? Since when? How? How dare you give me the greatest news of my life without explaining?!

The multiple Jeanes theory is because Fumi Ishikawa (the character artist for Suikoden 2, 3, Gaiden 1 & 2, and Card Stories said during an interview in Dengeki PS Vol 217) that, "She doesn't seem like she has aged at all, but she doesn't have a true rune." She then says, "Apparently, Jeane's family all have the same face." But Fumi Ishikawa has been wrong on things she has said in the past. For starters she said Hugo's dad has black hair, but Yoshitaka Murayama said Hugo's dad has blonde hair. In Suikoden 3 Jeane has a bath scene with Lilly Lilly: I'm not one to beat around the bush, so I'll get straight to the point. Did you serve in the Dunan Army during the Unification War? Jeane: Me in the Dunan Army... Hee hee! Well... kind of, but kind of not." Lilly: Well, which is it? Jeane: Yes, which one... Well, let's say that yes, I did... Lilly: Do you know Tinto's historian. Marlowe Cody? He also serves in the army. Recently, he came by the castle and apparently saw you Jeane: Without offering so much as a greeting or a handshake... Teasingly saying maybe I did, maybe I didn't, but then gives away that she knows Marlowe. In Suikoden 3 she leaves letters in the suggestion box. One talking about Futch and addressing him as an old friend. They fought together during Suikoden 1 and 2. And another letter talking about Nash, calling him rude for asking why she hasn't changed. They met previously during Suikogaiden Vol 1 (which takes place during Suikoden 2). In Suikoden 5, Viki leaves 2 letters in the comment box. One talking about Lorelai. Swearing she's never met her before. The other letter is about Jeane. In the letter Viki talks about them having met before. Lots of times, in lots of different places. So she doesn't remember Lorelai, but knows Jeane. So this can't be the Viki from Suikoden 1, 2 or 3 or else she would also remember Lorelai. So Jeane and Viki definitely had multiple encounters in the past that we've never seen in any games. And in the Suikoden 4 bath scene between Viki and Jeane, I got the impression Jeane very clearly recognised Viki and was simply being coy. Viki's letter about Jeane in Suikoden 5 basically confirms they've met many times before. In Suikoden 5 Jeane asks you to help her recover something she left behind in the ruins that are revealed in the crater that Levi created. But those ruins are from the Ancient Armes Kingdom, a nation that existed before Falena, and has been buried underground likely since before Falena was created. Meaning the ruins are well over 700 years old at that point. So Jeane possibly has a connection to the Ancient Armes Kingdom. It's most certainly the same Jeane that's appearing in each game. But for whatever her reasons, she tries her best not to give anything away.

@@CulganValyathe secret is related to the old ruins in S5 which i think related to the Sindar

@@CulganValya I always suspected Jeane of being a god or demigod of sorts. A supernatural entity separate from the True Runes.

The Once and Future King sounds interesting. I'll definitely look that up! It's possible she's experiencing time backwards, but the meetings between Viki and child Viki in Suikogaiden 2 and Suikoden 3 contradict each other. If Gaiden 2 comes first, which it does timeline wise. How did she not know child Viki in 3? And if she's experiencing time backwards, how did she not recognise child Viki in Gaiden 2 if they met in 3? Either way, she would've met herself at least once before. She might be a ditzy airhead about details, but she does remember people. I dunno, her whole timeline is a mess. Trying to make sense of it appears to be impossible.

Eventually I would like to make other content. The channel won't always be about Suikoden, but I'm a massive Suikoden fan so I'll definitely never stop making Suikoden content.

@@CulganValya wish you the best buddy

@@thejmr Appreciate it. And don't worry, I've got more Suikoden videos on the way.

I can definitely see why you gave up on Tierkreis. It's Suikoden in name only and has nothing to do with the series, and that was a huge turn off and let down for many people. I think it would've been received better if it didn't have the Suikoden name attached. I'm not sure if IV was the victim of a poor budget, or it was just poorly made. It definitely looks the worst of the bunch. Has the least interesting cast of the main series. Has a rushed story. Whatever the cause was, it was underwhelming and a big letdown. V is amazing. I agree with you on the characters, some of them showed growth and others regressed. I went through the same thing where I went form liking them to disliking them and disliking to liking. As for Sialeeds betrayal, it wasn't exactly for no reason. She wanted the nation to be rid of the corrupt, power hungry noble elite who were rotting the country from the inside. She couldn't kill them while with the prince or it would sully his name, so she fakes swapping sides to undermine the Godwins from within, kills Lord Barrows, this way it tarnishes the Godwins name and not the royal family. They definitely needed to do a better job explaining it though. Tactics certainly isn't to everyone's taste. The art style can be very offputting for some. The change in genre put others off. Being a follow up to a game people hated put even more off. I think it changed to much that most felt the same as you did. They just hated it.

​@@CulganValya I think Tactics was just at the wrong time for me as I like Tactics games. Maybe one day I'll look back into it. V was better in graphics than IV, but it still was bland in ways. I definitely think budget was an issue as Konami pinches anything not Metal Gear Solid. All the Castlevania had limited budgets, so a JRPG wasn't going to get a lot of attention either. Sialeeds could have manipulated (whatever her former fiancee's name was), trick them into compromising themselves by exposed their actions. That could have been planned way early in the plot if her goal and let the Prince know same time. Just killing the Burrows wouldn't solve anything, that's just silencing one powerful noble family to another perspective. There was also the fact she still did have feelings for whats-his-name. The problem was she felt she HAD to have the Prince kill her, knowing he and the Princess only had her left for family. He has to live with that, and if got real, known it was completely avoidable. It came off as an impulsive decision on her part think only in the immediate. I liked the game a lot, definitely an improvement over IV (which I still liked). I will say I liked the Princess by the scene she asks the Prince to stay with her. She became the cute little sister for that moment instead of that divide of roles. I barely liked her up to that point, but was happy to find my expectations turned around with that writing. We still have yet to go to Harmonia lol! That place is like heaven in a since as you hear about it, it's grandeur, but never see it. I wish they'd sell the IP, or at the least, some AA studio wants to take the title to make. They let Castlevania be butchered by Netflix

My man. Teach us your ways.

Spot on. Pretty much exactly what I said at the end of the video. I thought it's always been obvious he was an unnamed Karayan warrior, but that seems to be the minority belief. People in the fandom like to try and connect everyone and everything together as much as possible to give everyone a bigger sense of importance in the world. Sometimes a a character is just a regular person of no importance.

@@CulganValya It's odd because you see it done in Japanese games all the time. You get one parent, the other doesn't matter and is dead, if they even have parents. I also can't see the creators leaving a detail like that out as it would serve some part in Hugo's arc. Lucia would have given big hints about his dad as well if he was alive and had some importance.

Right? Complete and utter nonsense the theories some people come up with. They headcanon a ship they think would be cute and just roll with it, lore be damned.

@@CulganValya yea it sounds like they were like huh black hair, yup seems legit.

That is the logical answer, of course.

In the same few months Jowy also went from a loyal, loving best friend to a murderer, a schemer and a manipulator. Now I'm not saying he manipulated Lucia with sex, but could have taken advantage of her anger and thirst for revenge, which may have led to sex, as we've seen how devoted Lucia was to him. He did seem genuinely in love with Jillia, but he also genuinely loved his best friend, but that didn't stop him from luring his best friend into an ambush with fake peace talks, forcing him to surrender under threat of death. We've seen what he's willing to do to accomplish his goals. Now, do I believe any of that? No. I don't believe Jowy is the father, but it's not an impossibility. As for the black hair, that detail is no longer true. The black hair comment was made by the character artist, but the creator of the series has contradicted that by stating Hugo's father has blonde hair. My personal belief is that Hugo's dad is just some random Karayan, and his identity is completely irrelevant. As you said, he's just a backstory character to help shape Hugo's personality.

@@CulganValya What exactly would he need to have sex with her for if he already had her loyalty without it? That's just not in his personality. There is a massive difference between manipulating to get what you want, but then manipulating to have sex with someone, which is the overall goal. The creators would never go that far beyond his fall and redemption when it goes to left field. Women use sex to manipulate, not men.

@@blumiu2426 Hey man, I think that last sentence got your comment shadowbanned. That aside I completely agree. You put it much clearer than I could have.

@@blumiu2426 ps: your comment reminded me of Star Wars ep. 2: "He's a political idealist, not a murderer."

I can definitely see why. The art style certainly wasn't to everyone's taste. I hated how NPC's had no eyes, it gave off a creepy vibe. That was a strange design choice. The rune cannon plot I thought was quite interesting though.

Agreed. Suikoden 1's art hasn't aged as well as Suikoden 2's has. I'd love to see them bring Suikoden 1's pixel art up to the quality of Suikoden 2's for the remaster, but I don't think that's going to happen.

Returning characters are always nice to see. Really helps connect the games together. Is there anywhere you'd like the potential 6th game to take place? We got a little tease about a great power on another continent from Albert Silverbergs ending from Suikoden 3. I'd love to see it take place there to help flesh out the world more

It's such a massive world and we've only seen a tiny part of it. There's so much unknown to us and so much left to explore.

OH nevermind, *I'M* going to roast you. How dare you slander Thomas! You're gonna put FIVE?? above THREE?? Buduc is also one of the best castles. AND 1?? isn't #1? Get outta here. Leave.

@@SailorYen89 Bring on the roasting! Hell yeah I'm putting 5 above 3. I nearly put Tactics and the Gaidens above 3, I was debating it. Thomas is a nice kid, but zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz he's such a boing character. Budehuc is a nice location, but it's an awful castle. I get they were broke at the beginning of the game, but as the war progressed and it became populated and money started flowing in, you're telling me not a single person could straighten a painting? Or clean the cobwebs? Clean up the rubble? Dust the floors? Or even begin to start repairs? 1 can never be #1, it doesn't have Mukumuku!!! I'll never leave, I've got more bad takes on the way!

@@CulganValya Budehuc does get renovated! The walls get fixed, you put up paintings you find, the cobwebs get cleaned. idk when you last played it but it definitely gets super nice by the end! and Thomas is so underrated like imagine your role in destiny is the tenkai star but you're just a normal lad. that's tough! you're not a kid who has a military father or grown up in a dojo. you're just a boy! that's got some merit to it. i'll die on this hill lol

@@SailorYen89 Are you sure it gets renovated? I don't ever remember that happening. The last time I played it was 6 years ago, but I just loaded up an old save from Chapter 4 and the castle is still dilapidated. There's several big holes in the walls of the castle itself, there's crumbling on the wall at the top of the stairs. The entire outer walls surrounding the castle are still falling apart. I definitely see why you like him so much. He's just a normal kid that's thrown into a situation and he's way out of his depth. I think the reason he's so disliked / underrated is because he feels like the tenkai star in name only.. Generally the tenkai star is the main character you play as for the entire game, but Thomas's 2 chapters are optional, and his role as the tenkai star is spread out among him and the three other characters until chapter 4, where you choose which of those three you want to be the main character. The plot centers more around the other characters than him. I think he would've been more appreciated and liked if he wasn't the tenkai star, but rather a different SoD, and he was just some kid with a big countryside manor that offered it up to the player. I'll die on the hill that Hugo is in fact the real tenkai star of Suikoden 3.

@@CulganValya I... thought it did? I remember it being so much nicer at the end but maybe I'm misremembering afterall which is a bit disappointing lol. I love Thomas because I picture like, what if Tir was just a bookish lad instead of someone who'd been trained to fight from a young age. He'd still have been through all the same things he normally would, except he'd have to rely on other people for any combat. Which is essentially how it is for Thomas (aside from waving his lil sword around sometimes). Although if you think about it, the Tenkai's only job in reality is to gather the stars. Or to be "the one the stars gather around" more accurately. Which is exactly what Thomas does with the castle. Doesn't say anywhere they gotta be he front man of anything. (Small side note, I have a request! Can you remember or find out or ask someone something for me. The Dwarf village in S1, the actual village with buildings, is it.. onTOP of a mountain? Underground? In a cave? Do you have any idea what it's actual physical location is? Ty!)

Thank you! I thought a personal story about 1 would mean more than simply talking about the game itself. Your dad picked out some wonderful games to pass the time while recovering. Did he ever expand into other series or was it just a thing to pass time during recovery?

@@CulganValya Not on the ps1. He ended up more of a pc guy. Diablo, Warcraft and Quake were his things.

I remember buying Suikoden I before buying a memory card for some reason, so I had to play the entire game without turning off the PSX. Good thing it is relatively short.😂

You've been making this exact same comment on every single video I upload.

@@CulganValya Did I?! excuse me! 😅

As a standalone game, I'd rate Tierkreis higher than Suikoden 4, but as a Suikoden game, I'd rank 4 better than Tierkreis. Tierkreis just doesn't really have anything to do with the series. If that makes sense.

@@CulganValya The whole point of Suikoden is the continuity of the shared universe, with characters, settings, themes, and story beats carried between the games. Throwing away all that has been established and setting it in a new unrelated setting akin to Final Fantasy is fundamentally throwing out what makes Suikoden, Suikoden. Might as well name it Waifu Blade: Redemption Rising Resurrection

Hi Max

@@SemtexJack hi jack lol havent seen u in a bit how ya been?

I can see why it's your #1. It's an incredible game. I really hope the remaster fixes the UI and inventory. Give me Suikoden 1 with Suikoden 2's UI and inventory system. Thanks! I thought personal stories would make for a better video that just blabbing about the games. I tried to sprinkle some in where I could.

@@CulganValya yea i mean honestly for a remaster better ui and inventory management would make it really good from what i saw in the trailer they did add running animation to Tir instead of just fast walking LOL yea honestly listening about your history of the game was heartwarming in a sense its a good way to express why you feel the way you do about it.

@@MaximzM He actually had a running animation in the original version. It was just unused for some reason. It's in his sprite sheet. It's great to see them using it this time. It looks so much better than his goofy sped up walking animation. They also used the Sega Saturn versions opening movie instead of the Playstation opening, so I'm hoping they'll add some of the Saturn content. Although I expect they won't.

Suikoden 1, 2 and 5 are definitely the most popular entries with the majority of the fandom. 3 is an iffy entry for most. People who played 1 and 2 before 3 find a lot of issues with 3, but people who started the series with 3 absolutely love it to death. I agree with you on Suikoden 4. It's got a great soundtrack. The Rune of Punishment theme is beautiful. It's a real shame the story and characters weren't fleshed out. It could've been something great, but we the whole experience felt unfinished. Tactics certainly helps expand on it, and makes it more enjoyable, but there's still too much missing from 4 to make it a complete experience. Woven Web of the Century is about as bland and generic as low budget rpgs game. Once the initial buzz of finally being able to play it wore off after the first couple of hours, I just wasn't vibing with it. I didn't like it at all. I'm honestly hard pressed to say anything positive of Woven Web. A lot of people did enjoy the game though, it just wasn't my thing.

Interesting! I wasn't aware it could also mean that. There are certainly a lot of wacky theories out there. This one is only the tip of the iceberg of some of the theories many fans have had. A lot of the theories make absolutely no sense when they're broken down.

I hope it does get re-released some day. I was quite enjoyed Tierkreis, so deep diving into this was quite fun. Even though I was only able to track down a basic outline of each chapter, it was an enjoyable story.

That's also a very good point! I actually had Rikimaru in my party in L'Renouille during my most recent playthrough and there was no dialogue between the two. But for all the great bonus dialogue Suikoden has, they also miss out on many opportunities too. Kreutz has no dialogue if you bring him to the final battle in Suikoden 1 for example.

@@SemtexJack I totally forgot John bought one. TheirStar has one as well.

@@SemtexJack Bacon wheat crunchies

I can do what I want Yen!!

We know next to nothing about the parents. All that's known is that they were an aristocratic family that lived in Gregminster. Leon became Mathiu's guardian after the parents died and started teaching him. But we're given no exact dates for any of that. At the start of Suikoden 1 Mathiu would've been 32, Odessa 21 and Rikimaru would've been 19. But we also know that Mathiu and Leon served the Empire during the War of Succession which was 9 years prior. So Mathiu would've been 23 at the time. Odessa would've been 12 and Rikimaru would've been 10 at that time. From here all we can do is guess. Mathiu wouldn't have needed a guardian at this age. So it's safe to say the parents must have died when Odessa and the younger brother were very young. So yes, if Rikimaru is a Silverberg. then it's very possible that his quest for revenge is not related to a family member, but a friend or a lover, as I think I mentioned in the video. To be honest, I don't think he's a Silverberg. He's an unrelated, optional, secondary character with a mysterious background that we'll likely never see again.

Agreed. There isn't really anything to this theory except for wishful thinking. Suikoden fans love to connect dots that don't exist to give characters greater roles than were intended.

That's definitely a possibility. Personally I think it was Levi's journal since it's unlocked immediately after recruiting him, but there is definitely a possibility that someone else wrote the journal and he just found it during his studies.

They've already confirmed that the games will be receiving revised translations (the original games translations were really bad and full of mistakes). Make of that what you will.

@@CulganValya It seems funny to me that whenever they rerelease these old Japanese games, they always call the original translations horrible. Fixing minor mistakes from the original translation is one thing, but changing or adding things just because you don’t like what’s said is another thing entirely.

@@JacobC-i8d Except in the case of Suikoden, it's true. I've been playing these games since I was a child when they originally released and the translations of the early games are full of problems that need to be fixed.

Suikoden is an amazing series for sure! There'll be a lot more Suikoden videos (hopefully) appearing on your feed soon!

Fingers crossed it's just for polish. But if it was just for polish it's hard to imagine an entire year of silence. I suspect they either ran into a big problem, or they took the feedback of the vocal group who didn't like the hd art, ui and sfx and are doing a big overhaul.

I remember you mentioned that on another video of mine. I definitely plan on checking it out at some point!

@@CulganValya Oh, I forget that, I'm looking to watch your walkthrough playing✨