Shout out to the Camelot girls, their Storytime sounded good. Anette always felt more like a studio singer to me. I likes the way her and Marko's voices complimented each other (he, Tarja and Floor sing in the same register). My favourite NW song with her is Meadows of Heaven. On the other hand, Floor is obviously the better vocalist, capable of handling songs from previous eras. When the switch to Floor was made, everyone was excited (while side eye-ing the guys for kicking off yet another singer). When I first heard Anette with NW, single Eva, all I wanted to do was cry because it was so obviously composed for Tarja's voice...
For me, Floor is by far the best choice for Nightwish. The reason for this is that Floor sings with incredible versatility. There are very, very few singers in the world who are as extremely versatile as this woman. But that doesn't mean that I automatically think Tarja or Anette are bad singers. Absolutely not, its just the fact that they doesn't manage to fill the range like Floor. Floor Jansen is unique and a phenomenon. It can hardly be described in words, you just feel it. And as an added bonus, she is also extremely likeable and warm-hearted as a human being. Simply a perfect mix.
“In order to be born, you needed 2 parents, 4 grandparents 8 great-grandparents 16 second great-grandparents 32 third great-grandparents 64 fourth great-grandparents 128 fifth great-grandparents 256 sixth great-grandparents 512 seventh great-grandparents 1,024 eighth great-grandparents 2,048 ninth great-grandparents. For you to be born today from 12 previous generation, you needed 4,094 ancestors over the last 400 years. Think for a moment about how many struggles and battles, how much sadness, happiness, love stories, and hopes for the future they had to undergo for you to exist in this present moment. You are the dream of many ancestors”.
Saw them at The Majestic in Ventura in '18 or thereabout. Marko invited the crowd out for a post-set beer. Was with with the wife and passed; worst bye of my life!
Anette Olzon, Tarja Turunen, Floor Jansen, (+ Elize Ryd and Alissa White-Glutz:) equally amazing singers that gave voice to a part of Nightwish story. I only hope that there is respect and dignity between all the members and the fans. As I remember terrible things said by fans, during all the changes.
The mistake they made (which I still don't understand) was to hire Anette in the first place. It is completely clear that Anette was not up to the job. And as Anette herself described it later in interviews: and important part of the problem was that she was over-stressed and fearfull of performing because of the fans (!) not liking her. I think the boys in the band where VERY supportive of her, given the number of terrible live performances, and the fact the nevertheless they still stood by her after all that time. That notwithstanding, the situation had become untennable and something had to be done to save the situation. And in such situations there are no "nice" solutions.
THE SHOW MUST GO ON!!! Its not just a saying, it's a way of life. Its a philosophy musicians and actors live by. I live in Salt Lake City. I missed Annette's last show because I didn't know of them yet but would have loved them if I did. Since I discovered Nightwish in Nov 2021 I've wondered why they rarely come back, but after seeing this, I understand. If I want to see them live (and I do), I'll have to go somewhere else to do it. That suits me just fine, this place has left plenty of scars on me too, both inside and out. If they ever do come back, I'll get off my own deathbed to attend so i can join the chorus and sing "WE WERE HERE!"
I saw them live 6 days into Floor's tenure and absolutely loved them, and her. It is an epic story. And Tuomas is a true poet with a poet's soul. The love this band radiates is truly glorious. Prosper in all you do Nightwish. "I only wished to become something beautiful, through my music and my silent devotion". You all have.
I guess Anette could not see the danger coming.. that there were hungry singers like Floor that is ready to replace her in any minute. Also Alissa and Elize jumped to the stage immediately, instead of supporting Anette. I'm sure they were jealous of her fame and position.
I must say that you have a very sad and pessimistic outlook on the world, where courageous people who have the guts to step up and take a chance to help others are instead seen as conniving, scheming, manipulative, and immoral. I really would not want to live in your painfull little universe. And have you ever thought of the fact that maybe Anette herself was a big part of the problem, leaving the band in an untennable position?
The things I say above are reality, not pessimistic. Yes, Anette was slowly getting exhausted beause of the touring life and that particular tour was extremely hard. Then she got very sick that day and went to hospital. Normally a group cancels the show that day and visits the band member at the hospital. Tuomas was very worried about cancelling the show and in general he was not very happy with Anette lately. So he made the decision. The thing about Elize is, she was a candidate after Tarja but not chosen. To cut it short, there were singers that could replace Anette at any given minute and they used the favorable situation quite well. Don't take the blue pill my friend, life is ruthless sometimes ;)@@rientsdijkstra4266
That Drummer POV Camera... The oscillations of the image are obviously just Jukka's head moves. Look at it: the camera movements fits perfectly the beat of the song. What means Jukka's body movements, no matter how smooth and spontaneous they look.. are so precise and metronomic as his beats.
Interesting, the guys sound quite provincial when it comes to their accents, and they really are from a small town in the back woods. That makes their success all that much more impressive. Talent and perseverance can go far.
I have been only half strough the doku, but id like to know, why is Floor not more in it to this point? Do anyone know this? But maybe this will answerd in the second half.
No, they fired her because her behavior was untenable, she got pregnant mid-tour, and she left them in an untennable position (which was the drop that made the bucket overflow, as we say in Dutch). Her firing was inevitable. And the moment was determined by Anette herself. The only thing disgusting here is the way you are talking about them.
Lead vocalist for only the first part, and this "lead" vocalist was the cause of the problems to begin with, and did not want to cooperate with the documentary...
Amaizing people, the band, their friends, I remember Alissa appeared in some other behind the scene videos. Anette did great as for pop singer and it s not her fault the she was different, but she had hard times, we, who loved Tarja and old Nightwish, did not give her any love and appreciation and then, when she was already pregnant she had also bad ending with the band. But Floor's destiny was to join the band and the band was created for the Floor to blossom!
The point that Anette was cut out totally and just like Tarja all goes back to Marko. Total asshole and back stabber. I have to say that Marko quieting was the best ever solution for the band. His jealousy for the lead singer cost the band 2 singers. And now he quit and his excuses were same as the ones firing Tarja money and recognition and respect what Tarja brought to the band to be paid her worth. Band is a business. With Floor it is different as she is the band herself and I think the boys know it. And I think Floor has a manager and contract so no reason to complain. When I saw Marko quit that was the best news ever. I bet this docco was also his idea and also cutting Anette from it totally. What a loser.
I honestly feel like Floor was always meant to be in this band! It's so great how this band stayed together through the mess they had to endure. I'm happy that this band is still kicking butt after this long!!
Incrível como as vocalistas q substituiram Anet conseguiram segurar o rojão
Floor was worried she would completely fuck up. That was never going to happen; she is a wonder to this day.
I'm wondering why Anette was totally edited out 🤔
"Tällä hetkellä ei vituta mikään" -Emppu. That's the most Finnish way to say you're happy and content.
Shout out to the Camelot girls, their Storytime sounded good. Anette always felt more like a studio singer to me. I likes the way her and Marko's voices complimented each other (he, Tarja and Floor sing in the same register). My favourite NW song with her is Meadows of Heaven. On the other hand, Floor is obviously the better vocalist, capable of handling songs from previous eras. When the switch to Floor was made, everyone was excited (while side eye-ing the guys for kicking off yet another singer). When I first heard Anette with NW, single Eva, all I wanted to do was cry because it was so obviously composed for Tarja's voice...
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For me, Floor is by far the best choice for Nightwish. The reason for this is that Floor sings with incredible versatility. There are very, very few singers in the world who are as extremely versatile as this woman. But that doesn't mean that I automatically think Tarja or Anette are bad singers. Absolutely not, its just the fact that they doesn't manage to fill the range like Floor. Floor Jansen is unique and a phenomenon. It can hardly be described in words, you just feel it. And as an added bonus, she is also extremely likeable and warm-hearted as a human being. Simply a perfect mix.
I met Elize after the Amaranthe show in Denver. She’s so sweet in person. Amazing singer. But Floor is light years better.
1:53:05 Seems like Jukka is a poet, not just a beat drummer ever.
This was epic! Thank you very much
One day they do they’ll do the same to floor 😊😊
Sadly Troy is dead wrong, t's all about the singer, not the band. It's just unbelievable to read the negative comments on the new single...so sad 😢
Is it me, or do you hear perfume of the timeless at all in this vido or is it just me ?
“In order to be born, you needed 2 parents, 4 grandparents 8 great-grandparents 16 second great-grandparents 32 third great-grandparents 64 fourth great-grandparents 128 fifth great-grandparents 256 sixth great-grandparents 512 seventh great-grandparents 1,024 eighth great-grandparents 2,048 ninth great-grandparents. For you to be born today from 12 previous generation, you needed 4,094 ancestors over the last 400 years. Think for a moment about how many struggles and battles, how much sadness, happiness, love stories, and hopes for the future they had to undergo for you to exist in this present moment. You are the dream of many ancestors”.
Who sang the songs in these time?
24:25 PHANTOM GRAB COM A PORTA😂😂😂😂😂 quase tive um avc
Here in 2024 and still missing the hell out of Jukka and now Marko. <3
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Same here
I'd give anything for the old nightwish
They are doing well, not missed
@@kajlax1554 i miss anette Marko and jukka era
Saw them at The Majestic in Ventura in '18 or thereabout. Marko invited the crowd out for a post-set beer. Was with with the wife and passed; worst bye of my life!
As much as this must have sucked I would have loved to be here. A truly once in a lifetime type occasion and set list.
Anette Olzon, Tarja Turunen, Floor Jansen, (+ Elize Ryd and Alissa White-Glutz:) equally amazing singers that gave voice to a part of Nightwish story. I only hope that there is respect and dignity between all the members and the fans. As I remember terrible things said by fans, during all the changes.
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what a wonderful and amazing person.
5:30 The crowd's respons to Elize and Alissa to step in is just great.....
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I dislike how they treated Anette, even if it wasn't because she was pregnant, they didn't support her and made her feel scared for her job
The mistake they made (which I still don't understand) was to hire Anette in the first place. It is completely clear that Anette was not up to the job. And as Anette herself described it later in interviews: and important part of the problem was that she was over-stressed and fearfull of performing because of the fans (!) not liking her. I think the boys in the band where VERY supportive of her, given the number of terrible live performances, and the fact the nevertheless they still stood by her after all that time. That notwithstanding, the situation had become untennable and something had to be done to save the situation. And in such situations there are no "nice" solutions.
The flying Dutchwoman😂😂😂
THE SHOW MUST GO ON!!! Its not just a saying, it's a way of life. Its a philosophy musicians and actors live by. I live in Salt Lake City. I missed Annette's last show because I didn't know of them yet but would have loved them if I did. Since I discovered Nightwish in Nov 2021 I've wondered why they rarely come back, but after seeing this, I understand. If I want to see them live (and I do), I'll have to go somewhere else to do it. That suits me just fine, this place has left plenty of scars on me too, both inside and out. If they ever do come back, I'll get off my own deathbed to attend so i can join the chorus and sing "WE WERE HERE!"
That was excellent
I saw them live 6 days into Floor's tenure and absolutely loved them, and her. It is an epic story. And Tuomas is a true poet with a poet's soul. The love this band radiates is truly glorious. Prosper in all you do Nightwish. "I only wished to become something beautiful, through my music and my silent devotion". You all have.
I wonder what Thoumas thinks now, a singer who can sing almost anything he can throw at her.
I guess Anette could not see the danger coming.. that there were hungry singers like Floor that is ready to replace her in any minute. Also Alissa and Elize jumped to the stage immediately, instead of supporting Anette. I'm sure they were jealous of her fame and position.
I must say that you have a very sad and pessimistic outlook on the world, where courageous people who have the guts to step up and take a chance to help others are instead seen as conniving, scheming, manipulative, and immoral. I really would not want to live in your painfull little universe. And have you ever thought of the fact that maybe Anette herself was a big part of the problem, leaving the band in an untennable position?
The things I say above are reality, not pessimistic. Yes, Anette was slowly getting exhausted beause of the touring life and that particular tour was extremely hard. Then she got very sick that day and went to hospital. Normally a group cancels the show that day and visits the band member at the hospital. Tuomas was very worried about cancelling the show and in general he was not very happy with Anette lately. So he made the decision. The thing about Elize is, she was a candidate after Tarja but not chosen. To cut it short, there were singers that could replace Anette at any given minute and they used the favorable situation quite well. Don't take the blue pill my friend, life is ruthless sometimes ;)@@rientsdijkstra4266
i think you mean 'could' lol that's why the relationship degraded
Lol, I've seen myself here ua-cam.com/video/vhExkmWKMEU/v-deo.html
That Drummer POV Camera... The oscillations of the image are obviously just Jukka's head moves. Look at it: the camera movements fits perfectly the beat of the song. What means Jukka's body movements, no matter how smooth and spontaneous they look.. are so precise and metronomic as his beats.
Interesting, the guys sound quite provincial when it comes to their accents, and they really are from a small town in the back woods. That makes their success all that much more impressive. Talent and perseverance can go far.
Not a very pleasant voice over voice...
I have been only half strough the doku, but id like to know, why is Floor not more in it to this point? Do anyone know this? But maybe this will answerd in the second half.
WOW they fired her because she got sick. Disgusting people.
No, they fired her because her behavior was untenable, she got pregnant mid-tour, and she left them in an untennable position (which was the drop that made the bucket overflow, as we say in Dutch). Her firing was inevitable. And the moment was determined by Anette herself. The only thing disgusting here is the way you are talking about them.
@@rientsdijkstra4266 I disagree. The only disgusting thing here is your comment. Who cares anyway? Bye.
@@rientsdijkstra4266 you are wrong actually, they treated Anette horribly
@@antzooma That is you opinion as an Anette fan.
@@rientsdijkstra4266 nope i'm speaking as an unbiased viewer i don't follow them, it's just a fact
Is sad to watch a documentary about a tour of a rock band and don't see the lead vocalist and her take on the tour 🫤
Lead vocalist for only the first part, and this "lead" vocalist was the cause of the problems to begin with, and did not want to cooperate with the documentary...
Amaizing people, the band, their friends, I remember Alissa appeared in some other behind the scene videos. Anette did great as for pop singer and it s not her fault the she was different, but she had hard times, we, who loved Tarja and old Nightwish, did not give her any love and appreciation and then, when she was already pregnant she had also bad ending with the band. But Floor's destiny was to join the band and the band was created for the Floor to blossom!
The point that Anette was cut out totally and just like Tarja all goes back to Marko. Total asshole and back stabber. I have to say that Marko quieting was the best ever solution for the band. His jealousy for the lead singer cost the band 2 singers. And now he quit and his excuses were same as the ones firing Tarja money and recognition and respect what Tarja brought to the band to be paid her worth. Band is a business. With Floor it is different as she is the band herself and I think the boys know it. And I think Floor has a manager and contract so no reason to complain. When I saw Marko quit that was the best news ever. I bet this docco was also his idea and also cutting Anette from it totally. What a loser.
I mean, Marko has done multiple duets with Tarja recently so....
@@MetalPersonJ And yet you can't deny his body language nor the reality that Tarja had no idea what was coming.
I don't think the bassist is gonna be jealous of a lead singer but I agree the guy is an asshole probably because he's depressed
to learn all those complicated lyrics in two days... she hasn't a thick brain she's remarkable...and humble.
They are brilliant musicians but man, Nightwish, especially Tuomas, should have handled Tarja and Anette's departure better.
Alissa n Elise Saved Them And Saved The Promiters A LOT Of Money In Refunds 4 ALL THOSE PEOPLES TICKETS
"This is to be good, great, joyous, beautiful and free. This is life, Empire and victory". 😊
Queen FLOOR 💥
I love these girls, massive respect for them. Rarely do you encounter girls like them.
I honestly feel like Floor was always meant to be in this band! It's so great how this band stayed together through the mess they had to endure. I'm happy that this band is still kicking butt after this long!!
And now we have a Nightwish hiatus :'( so sad
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