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Continuous Cover Forestry Pt2- Sustainable Timber & Biodiverse Ecosystems: Can they thrive Together?
Part 2 (Part 1 available in link below). Filmed at Stourhead (Western) Estate - with David Pengelly BSc(Hons) FICFor looks at how financially viable CCF is, why forest owners should consider it and what Government and the Timber industry could do to support it.
Continuous Cover Forestry, or CCF, is a method of timber production that avoids clear felling. Instead, it uses selective harvesting, which reduces the impact on the flora and fauna in the woodland.
We've talked in other films about whether it is possible to have a forest that is multifunctional, that provides recreation for people, habitat for biodiversity and also has a harvestable product such as timber. See past films such as Rewilding the Treescape with Alastair Driver - ua-cam.com/video/BeGwc1NL7aw/v-deo.htmlsi=6aZgdyhXIW6XR2V9
In a nutshell, the claim is that using Continuous Cover Forestry management techniques woodlands can be diverse, resilient, and profitable through timber sales. Cost and disruption can be kept to a minimum by replacing the felled trees through natural regeneration rather than planting.
Sounds promising. But is it too good to be true?
Tom and Charly want to explore how CCF can meet the many demands that we place on our woodlands.
Last year, Tom was working on the National Timber Strategy (for England) , which emphasised the need to increase timber production in England while enhancing woodland diversity and resilience in the face of climate change and emerging threats. See - www.nationalwoodstrategy.co.uk
Charly and Tom were eager to see how this approach to forestry is different to others. They want to learn how it can improve the economic potential of woodlands while enhancing their ecological condition.
Some History of the Estate: The Hoare family occupation of the Stourhead landscape began with the acquisition of Stourton in the early 18th Century. At this time only 25% of the existing land was woodland.
The present forest and land-use pattern at Stourhead was largely created by Nick Hoare’s ancestors, starting in 1741 they embarked on a major forest establishment project, and also created the Park and outstanding designed landscape garden to the south of Stourhead House which is now in the ownership of the National Trust.
Subsequent members’ of the Hoare family maintained and developed a pioneering interest in forestry and managed woodland has become Stourhead (Western) Estate’s primary land-use.
The principal management objective for the 650-hectare conifer dominated forest is to create a resilient forest capable of sustainably producing high quality and high value timber, whilst generating significant levels of biodiversity and a high-quality landscape. David has been a Forestry Consultant to Stourhead (Western) Estate since 1998
www.selectfor.com
The present owner, N.C. Hoare and his predecessor, H.C. Hoare, have begun to bring this 250-year initiative in sustainable afforestation to its culmination with the inspired work of David Pengelly and others.
David has a Forestry and Agri-environment consultancy business in the Wessex area. And is Director of SelectFor Ltd who specialise in CCF, providing consultancy, training, research and forest monitoring practices.
www.stourhead.com
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Continuous Cover Forestry Pt1- Sustainable Timber & Biodiverse Ecosystems: Can they thrive together?
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Part 1(Part 2 available in link below). Filmed at Stourhead (Western) Estate - with David Pengelly BSc(Hons) FICFor looks at what CCF is, how it differs from conventional clear cutting and what this means for biodiversity as well as the long term sustainability of the productivity of the forest. Continuous Cover Forestry, or CCF, is a method of timber production that avoids clear felling. Inste...
What is holding back woodland creation in the UK? - Why are we not meeting tree planting targets?
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Many challenges face those attempting large scale woodland creation in the UK. From historical and cultural issues to problems with process and planning, this film discusses what is holding back woodland creation. Our series wood for the trees explores the future of UK forests from varied perspectives. In this film we talk to woodland managers, foresters, rewilders, land owners and campaigners ...
Agroforestry in the UK - What's holding it back?
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"Two ways to encourage more farmers to plant more trees - help with cost and help with information." says Harriet Bell at Riverford Farm. Agroforestry, the growing of trees on farms, has been shown to provide many benefits to farming and more widely - as we have seen in previous films in the 'Wood for the Trees' series. But there is surprisingly small uptake of these practices in the UK compare...
Woodland Creation in the UK - Challenges and Opportunities, with Nick Phillips, Woodland Trust
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What is holding woodland creation in the UK back, and what opportunities are there to increase tree cover? Charly went to Cambridgeshire to meet Nick Phillips, Head of Forestry Policy at the Woodland Trust to find out what he believes are the main issues we are facing in the UK. In a naturally regenerating piece of 'set aside' land, he also talked to her about some of the things that are holdin...
Planting Trees to Capture Carbon - Does it Add Up? Animation Planting Trees for Carbon Sequestration
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This is the animation from our film - Planting trees for carbon sequestration - do the numbers add up? - ua-cam.com/video/li6AYguTrs8/v-deo.html We had been hearing a lot about carbon sequestration and wanted to see if the UK could plant its way to Net Zero. So we looked at the numbers and did the maths and tried to answer the question - "Can we plant enough trees, in the UK, to get us to Net Z...
Why plant trees when you are Rewilding? #WFTT More On...Rewilding
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Prof. Alastair Driver from Rewilding Britain talks to Woodforthetrees' Charly Le Marchant about the 230K trees just planted at Broughton Hall Estate in Yorkshire - Broughtonsanctuary.org , the largest tree planting project for nature restoration in the UK over the winters 2021-2 & 22-3. Alastair talks about why it is necessary to plant trees in many rewilding projects Plastic Tree Guards - Alas...
From food production to flood prevention - Why planting trees will help save us from ourselves.
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Why do we need more trees in the UK? "Trees I believe will help save us from ourselves" Gabriel Hemery (Sylva Foundation) "Planting trees delivers at least five good things" says Harriet Bell (Regenerative Farming Lead- Riverford Farms) In this film Tom Barnes and myself, Charly Le Marchant, set out to ask as many knowledgeable and passionate experts, as would talk to us "Why we should be plant...
Planting trees for Carbon Sequestration - do the numbers add up?
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Trees - A nature based solution to climate change? Series Two of Wood for the Trees takes a closer look at the issues raised in our short films about the future of UK forests. Can we plant enough trees to save us from a warming planet? Determined to understand the future of English woodlands, Tom and Charly continue their quest to ask awkward questions and share their learning. This film asks i...
Wood for the (Christmas) Trees
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Season's Greetings from all of us at Wood for the Trees, and MASSIVE THANKS to all our guests in this series so far. In Wood for the Trees, Tom Barnes, sawmill owner and Charly Le Marchant, Forest School leader and filmmaker, work together to explore the future of UK forests. Coming from different perspectives, but equally passionate about woods and woodlands, Tom and Charly have produced a ser...
Wood for the Trees BBC Somerset 15Nov
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Tom talks to BBC Somerset about 'Wood for the Trees' and the future of Britain's forests.
A better future for our woodlands:12 ideas to help British forests grow
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12 ideas to help British forests grow 1. Create a coherent plan to support nature across government 2. Bring agriculture and forestry together into one ecological unit 3. Deliver funding to turn policy into practice 4. Value productive woodlands in creating good quality timber 5. Grown in Britain policy for all timber used in public buildings 6. Funding for 19% canopy cover by 2050 7. Control g...
Rewilding: Regenerating the Treescape, part 10 of Wood for the Trees
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Looking at rewilding at Knepp. Alastair Driver of Rewilding Britain discusses the process of rewilding, and talks about trees, timber and tree planting. Filmed at Knepp in the summer of 2021, info at woodforthetrees.uk. Charly Le Marchant asks how trees and treeplanting fit into the rewilding landscape. Part ten of "Wood for the Trees,' a series looking at the future of UK forests. #woodforthet...
Wood for the Trees part 10 - Preview
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Where does tree-planting fit into the rewilding picture? At Knepp, we talk with Alastair Driver, Chair of Rewilding Britain, about trees and timber, rewilding and landscapes. This is a preview of part ten of Wood for the Trees, a series of short films about the future of UK forests. Film-maker Charly Le Marchant and sawmill manager Tom Barnes are working together to make this series about the f...
Sustainable Forestry UK: The Need For Nurture, Wood For The Trees #9
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A discussion of Sustainable Forestry of broadleaf trees. Tree planting in the UK and the need for strategy, planning and maintenance to nurture woodland. Silviculture expert Graham Taylor talks to sawmill manager Tom Barnes about the process of forest management, and the issues facing UK woodlands. "Tree Planting in and of itself is not a solution to our problems" says Tom Barnes, manager of a ...
Growing Improved Trees for a Low Carbon Future, Wood For The Trees 8 with Dr Jo Clark
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Growing Improved Trees for a Low Carbon Future, Wood For The Trees 8 with Dr Jo Clark
Agroforestry: The Benefits of Growing Trees on Farms, Wood For The Trees #7
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Agroforestry: The Benefits of Growing Trees on Farms, Wood For The Trees #7
Small Woodlands - Challenges and Opportunities. Wood For The Trees #6, Doug King-Smith at Hillyfield
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Small Woodlands - Challenges and Opportunities. Wood For The Trees #6, Doug King-Smith at Hillyfield
What is Wood Culture? Wood For The Trees, Film #5
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What is Wood Culture? Wood For The Trees, Film #5
About Wood For The Trees
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About Wood For The Trees
The Health Benefits of Trees: Wood for the Trees, film #4.
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The Health Benefits of Trees: Wood for the Trees, film #4.
Resilient Woodland Creation: Wood For The Trees, Film #3: Feb2020
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Resilient Woodland Creation: Wood For The Trees, Film #3: Feb2020
The Importance of Woodland Management: Wood For The Trees, Film #2: Jan2020
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The Importance of Woodland Management: Wood For The Trees, Film #2: Jan2020
Thoughts after shooting Film # 2
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Thoughts after shooting Film # 2
The Future of Britain's Forests. Wood For The Trees Film #1 Introduction
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The Future of Britain's Forests. Wood For The Trees Film #1 Introduction

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  • @RussTillling
    @RussTillling 5 днів тому

    Seems so obvious! If it looks ugly, mean and only benefits the shareholders of the investment companies who own the land, then it is unsustainable, basically, short-term raping of the land, nature, wildlife and everything!

  • @GregLynch-w4p
    @GregLynch-w4p 24 дні тому

    ❤love. Trees

  • @philiptaylor7902
    @philiptaylor7902 28 днів тому

    Great video, good to see alternatives to the environmentally disaster zones of “traditional” commercial forestry.

  • @TheHairyFool
    @TheHairyFool Місяць тому

    Best video yet Tom. Are you and David going to be talking at the APF this year?

    • @tombarnes2592
      @tombarnes2592 Місяць тому

      We don’t have a slot booked, but a conversation to explore some of the issues we touch on in the film sounds like a great idea. I’ll suggest it to Confor.

  • @pete_pump
    @pete_pump Місяць тому

    Fantastic. Very inspiring. Thank you.

  • @adman123456
    @adman123456 Місяць тому

    Unfortunately this type of forestry is not possible in the UK due to most of the commercial contractors do not have the kit for low impact forestry which they use in Europe unless they start buying smaller machines which do less damage to the ground and makes it more cost effective maybe look into low impact forestry machines which we need our uk contractors to use

  • @combitz
    @combitz Місяць тому

    We've found ourselves stuck between the council departments with continuous cover management, we have a wet woodland at the side of a village with a small back road (lane) along one edge which is 220m. The ecologist and conservation side of the council want us to keep as many trees as possible, (which is/was our plan) however the transport department and the councillors want the trees felled and are pushing this by not contacting us then there is any issue ( a small branch comes off a tree or a tree comes down in a storm), then sending us an invoice for any clear up operation with many hundreds of pounds added as an admin fee. This is a self regulating department without any appeal process and even though we have shown we maintain the trees, they clearly don't want them there and we can't afford to keep paying their Dick Turpin invoices. I'm far from optimistic now about the future.

  • @WoodForTheTrees
    @WoodForTheTrees Місяць тому

    if you haven't see Part 1 - here is the link: ua-cam.com/video/UrHxSNSR8pk/v-deo.html

  • @WoodForTheTrees
    @WoodForTheTrees Місяць тому

    Part 2 can be found here ua-cam.com/video/XDUFshyWZhc/v-deo.htmlsi=0Rj80A4sXz9R73vM

  • @MinTubaTuba
    @MinTubaTuba Місяць тому

    Thank you for your contribution. The videos are of such high quality, not least in their information content. Very encouraging.

    • @WoodForTheTrees
      @WoodForTheTrees Місяць тому

      Thanks. We aim to get good quality information out there. It's hard work at times to research and make sure everything gets covered (and what to leave out), so it is really great to have comments like this.

  • @karmakimdaisy8680
    @karmakimdaisy8680 Місяць тому

    And what is the name of the predators he mentioned which can help control Grey squirrels? I got Pine Martin, was the other goshawk? What did he mean when he said it's not necessary its an irregular forest?

    • @WoodForTheTrees
      @WoodForTheTrees Місяць тому

      Yes, Pine Martin which are being introduced and Goshawk which are currently nesting.

  • @johnschneider2429
    @johnschneider2429 Місяць тому

    Interesting video and analysis, but you left something out that seems significant. You mentioned that 70% of the land in the UK is in agriculture. Those are plants, too, and absorb C02. It isn’t just trees that do it. Don’t all plants contribute to the sequestration calculation?

    • @WoodForTheTrees
      @WoodForTheTrees Місяць тому

      Yes, you are right. Though it would depend on how the land is managed. For this film, because we started around the time of the 2019 election where there were many promises of planting trees (for sequestration), we just focused on trees and some quite simple stats for sequestration of trees in the UK. We could definitely have written a dissertation on the subject, but we thought this was about the right amount of detail and depth that could convey this subject without making a film that was too long or unwatchable.

  • @OsirusHandle
    @OsirusHandle Місяць тому

    (high land cost) = only absurd yields is justifiable, and nobody accepts expensive crops when you can buy crops made by people on far lower incomes (high labour cost). i believe agrof. can produce huge yields but ive yet to see any method of actually harvesting things that isnt shockingly labour intensive. perhaps simple strip polyculture helps: I know in south america they are doing big projects where they grow Inga, an edible nitrogen fixing tree, as rows alongside regular crops. But even then... I suspect if not for tradition and protectionism this country would become a giant suburb like the netherlands.

  • @karmakimdaisy8680
    @karmakimdaisy8680 Місяць тому

    Is he saying "irregular forestry" for continuous cover system, or "in regular"

  • @WoodForTheTrees
    @WoodForTheTrees Місяць тому

    Thanks. Good questions, some of which are answered in part 2 out next week. Some which there just wasn’t enough time in the space we had to cover fully. This needed up being two films rather than one because it is such an interesting subject to cover, with much detail. But briefly: There are marked track ways which are used for smaller machines to go in and harvest. The harvesting teams know to aim the felled trees towards those tracks and to avoid regenerating areas. The wood that is felled is of a size and quality that makes it financially viable for harvesting. Like most productive woodlands, there is monitoring and culling of deer and squirrel population. And the encouragement of predatory species. Also individual trees are protected at certain ages/stages.

  • @Macaronyman17
    @Macaronyman17 Місяць тому

    Promising concept and really important work! My questions would be: How do you harvest without needing to destroy smaller trees to come in with machinery? How do you supply the demand for big quantities of the same wood (which I'd assume is the norm), instead of a variety of different typed qualities of wood. How do you deal with selective grazing from deer populations and invasive species, to ensure a high diversity? I'd imagine that might be really difficult in this system.

  • @karmakimdaisy8680
    @karmakimdaisy8680 Місяць тому

    Wow so many experts in this video and they all fit together perfectly to give you a really idea of what is happening with UK woodland cultivation

  • @wijpke
    @wijpke 2 місяці тому

    Simple plant more trees and have a negative population growth 😊

  • @edchapman7561
    @edchapman7561 2 місяці тому

    Should not plant trees on farmland. Food is more important than trees. Not many recipes for acorns. Open your eyes and see how varied our landscape is. Tell the truth, Woodland Trust imported the Ash tree disease. Stop paddling lies about trees alleviating flooding. DAMS stop flood's from uplands.

    • @WoodForTheTrees
      @WoodForTheTrees Місяць тому

      Food and trees can be grown together, and benefit farmland through shade and wind protection - See our Agroforestry films. But also as the 2 largest importer of timber (last time we looked) behind China, we need to think of trees for other reasons, timber being one. Not only that, trees are important for biodiversity. This is why we need to look at land use in detail to meet all of these (no mutually exclusive) needs.

    • @edchapman7561
      @edchapman7561 20 днів тому

      Does wood imports include chip which is burnt when UK should be burning rubbish and not the expensive recycling con.

  • @davidcupples7622
    @davidcupples7622 2 місяці тому

    Xlnt

  • @natashalion8028
    @natashalion8028 2 місяці тому

    Government gets in the way!

    • @WoodForTheTrees
      @WoodForTheTrees Місяць тому

      Sometimes, but also sometimes it just takes time to find the right way to remove these barriers without creating problems elsewhere.

  • @MakeTechPtyLtd
    @MakeTechPtyLtd 2 місяці тому

    Great work. We've investigated this topic too, and found on a glabal scale the same issue occurs. You sort of mentioned at the start about forrests being buried. But at the end suggested the absorption is a % per year. It would be an ongoing going amount if the trees were harvested and buried deep. Essentially, reverse mining. Mature forrests, etc, reach an equilibrium of carbon in/out. -Ken

  • @9trees977
    @9trees977 2 місяці тому

    Excellent video! Thank you!

  • @eshaali8961
    @eshaali8961 2 місяці тому

    ❤❤😊😊

  • @davidpenney2334
    @davidpenney2334 3 місяці тому

    More houses being planted than trees....We are all up the creek without a paddle...GREED will be our down fall

  • @davidpenney2334
    @davidpenney2334 3 місяці тому

    The jays do the planting for us, along with a few dedication tree planters up and down the country

  • @davidpenney2334
    @davidpenney2334 3 місяці тому

    Whats holding it back is the land being swallowed up for housing developments we can sustain ....GREED is destroying us all.....

  • @pedromain
    @pedromain 3 місяці тому

    Great video!

    • @WoodForTheTrees
      @WoodForTheTrees 3 місяці тому

      Glad you enjoyed it. Please share it widely and stay tuned there is another one in process.

  • @johnbooth3073
    @johnbooth3073 3 місяці тому

    No mention of the invasive grey squirrels destroying your forest once the trees reach the age of 20 + years . No one is planting oak trees in the South of England anymore because of grey squirrels . Also deer grazing the seedlings and saplings.

    • @WoodForTheTrees
      @WoodForTheTrees 3 місяці тому

      We have discussed grey squirrel in previous films in more detail. There was only so much space in this film to cover much more issues than were anticipated. But yes you are right it is a big issue. One that is being looked at by various different folk.

  • @wormsorensen3715
    @wormsorensen3715 4 місяці тому

    The video is very misleading - it states that newly planted trees sequester C by 20T/ha/yr. This is far from correct - a newly planted forest releases C for up to 20 years. This is due to slow growth initially (a tree, the thickness of a pencil and 100 leaves doesn't absorb much C) and C released from the soil.

  • @user-sp3wd2nn3e
    @user-sp3wd2nn3e 4 місяці тому

    Rewilding should be preferred over forestation in many cases. Tree cover is not the answer to everything, grasslands, wetlands and bogs sequester carbon as well.

    • @WoodForTheTrees
      @WoodForTheTrees 3 місяці тому

      Thank you for your comment. There are many reasons to plant trees beyond carbon sequestration - see our previous film on this topic. This film was just looking at why we are not meeting the government target despite the political and public support for tree planting/regeneration.

  • @holyshipman
    @holyshipman 4 місяці тому

    10:10 the reason the carbon price is less than the cost to grow, is because your aim isnt to grow carbon you are growing a product which has a value of its own, either food or timber, also arable land is the best agricultural land and is the last place trees should be planted, rough grazing should be first to be changed from agricultural to forestry

  • @Albanach-je1nk
    @Albanach-je1nk 5 місяців тому

    It's not just no to a United Ireland it's no to indepence for Scotland

  • @timclarke8565
    @timclarke8565 5 місяців тому

    Quite possibly the most well made video explaining the absolute pointlessness of tree planting in the UK. 🤔 Carbon taxes. SCAM. 🤦 Removal of food production land... For it to be produced overseas. SCAM 🤦 I get the idea that more trees are beneficial. But... UK population growth is insane.... And they need food (not pork😂 or alcohol though) Would happily be schooled that I'm incorrect.... But I fear I'm absolutely not. Carbon credits... 😂😂😂 Ole' stelios easy jet pretending his flying birds = net zero. MENTAL!!! Meanwhile.... BraZIL be hancking the Forrest down to supply Chinese hog farms with soy. 🤔🤦🤣

    • @WoodForTheTrees
      @WoodForTheTrees 3 місяці тому

      Thanks for the compliment on well made. It is a complex subject in a country with many competing land uses, that is certain.

  • @micklacey1824
    @micklacey1824 5 місяців тому

    This sort of rewiding does nothing to address biodiversity because a lack of trees was never the reason for the decline in biodiversity in the first place. Name a single species of bird that has declined in the last 40 years through a lack of trees? Of course there isnt one.

    • @WoodForTheTrees
      @WoodForTheTrees 3 місяці тому

      Thanks Caroline, glad that you enjoyed it!

  • @MaxAdams-yr1wu
    @MaxAdams-yr1wu 5 місяців тому

    Natural England are threatening to prosecute me for planting trees on former sheep pasture because they 'cannot rule out the possibility' that a golden plover recorded three years ago might - MIGHT - want to eat the grass or make a nest there. Environmental reductionism that favours feathery enviro-porn over habitat creation. Most Pennine sheep farms will be barred from tree planting or woodland creation for the same reason. The Forestry Commission used to be the 'competent authority' on woodland creation; now they have surrendered that role to Natural England who take an absolutist position, non-negotiable and very, very shortsighted.

  • @christopherhinton6456
    @christopherhinton6456 6 місяців тому

    how can the local councils and goverment give permission to some thing that has been around for thousands of years.

  • @djc20
    @djc20 7 місяців тому

    if eveyone planted a tree at home, i wonder how much better the world would be ? just stirring the pot

  • @davidsivills3599
    @davidsivills3599 7 місяців тому

    I think a lot of farmers can't see the wood for the trees,many are still living in the 20th century when the norm was to remove trees from farmland.When farmers do move away from traditional farming and start to rewild part of their land it's been very successful.Look at knepp it's been a massive success, they are making more money now than when it was a traditional farm.I think farmers should get rewilding now,it's the future and beneficial for all humans,animals and the planet.

  • @Minfavorit
    @Minfavorit 7 місяців тому

    Why a low carbon future? There is a lot of carbon on the planet!

  • @oldmanonamission8055
    @oldmanonamission8055 7 місяців тому

    Yeah, rewilding with plastic guards, plastic ties, diesel lorries/tractors to get it there and the list goes on.

    • @WoodForTheTrees
      @WoodForTheTrees 3 місяці тому

      I think Alastair explains this and the future of the tree guards on this site. I am now informed that many have already been removed and passed on to another tree-planting project.

  • @jeffpearson6413
    @jeffpearson6413 8 місяців тому

    Similar concepts are involved here in Pennsylvania. Sure wish we had more people like your group here in the USA to keep the pressure on the Govt to help transition to environmentally friendly methods.

    • @WoodForTheTrees
      @WoodForTheTrees 3 місяці тому

      Thanks, some problems and their solutions are universal. Good luck in Pennsylvania

  • @MrNiuj
    @MrNiuj 8 місяців тому

    Great video.

  • @WoodForTheTrees
    @WoodForTheTrees 8 місяців тому

    FYI - Tom Barnes was less involved this film as he has been working on The National Wood Strategy - a pathway towards a sustainable forest products industry in England. It was released last week. See it here - thenationalwoodstrategy.co.uk Both the strategy and this film have covered similar ground and have informed each other. It’s nice they were both released the same week.

  • @anemone104
    @anemone104 8 місяців тому

    Why not dib in acorns to supplement your naturally regenerated ash and sycamore? And why stop at acorns?

    • @WoodForTheTrees
      @WoodForTheTrees 3 місяці тому

      I think that has been considered and tried in some areas. I imagine that it is not as reliably successful especially with deer present. And I imagine that it is not possible to get funding to protect the young trees as for "regeneration" you need to be within a certain distance of a seed source.

    • @anemone104
      @anemone104 3 місяці тому

      @@WoodForTheTrees The lack of funding availability for natural regeneration (and assisted natural regeneration) for woodlands is a long-running issue in the UK. In my mind it is a symptom of the domination of 'forestry' thinking in the planning and implementation of woodland management today. Regrettable, especially as large-seeded species such as oak can naturally spread over surprisingly large distances. Also worthy of consideration is that large-seeded species, whilst 'traditionally' thought to be fitted to regeneration under an existing tree canopy, actually do very well when seeded into existing grassland by vectors such as jays, squirrels and deer. Another 'regrettable' consequence is the transportation of plant pathogens with young trees for planting. Most well-known case in point: ash dieback. Deer and deer browsing (and outright grazing by species such as sika) is another story. In the absence of large-scale trials into natural regeneration, 'reliably successful' must remain a moot point when talking about planting. How about fencing areas to exclude deer and then going for natural regeneration and dibbing in large-seeded species like oak and hazel and then monitoring? Oh, silly me, no funding! Sorry if this comes across as a bit grumpy, but this really is a topic that deserves more consideration.

  • @anemone104
    @anemone104 8 місяців тому

    "As we all know, trees absorb carbon, or in technical lingo, sequester carbon". No we don't know. Trees do not sequester carbon. Sequestered carbon is (as your animation says) carbon that is locked away from biosphere processes: coal, oil, gas, lignite. Trees and woodlands capture carbon. Quite good at it and coppice is especially good. Trees also store carbon for the life of the individual tree: it stores carbon in its body as 'wood' (including the root system) and storage lasts for a while after the tree dies, before it rots. Woodlands multiply up the amount stored. But woodlands are extremely good at carbon cycling. No carbon is actually sequestered. Just stored temporarily: Although an old oak stores carbon for longer than a human life, it is NOT sequestered. Peat bogs (as you say in passing) sequester carbon. Maerl beds sequester carbon. Trees and woodlands (and forests) do not. "In the right circumstances and over long periods of time, carbon from these dead plants gets trapped in layers of sediment and becomes fossil carbon". THAT is carbon sequestration - part 3 of a process which goes: 1) carbon capture 2) carbon storage 3) carbon sequestration with part 3 operating on tiny percentages of the carbon captured and taking geological ages. Storage of carbon as 'wood' in a tree can be extended by harvesting timber and converting it into wood products which do not rot (as a tree left in a woodland eventually will). Think of the timber beams in Ely Cathedral or the vernacular medieval cottages in Sussex. The wood is there and un-rotted, so kind of sequestered because decay causing organisms cannot get at it to cycle the carbon it contains. Kind of an anthropogenic semi-sequestration, but in reality just extended carbon storage. Here's a short, chopped-together vid shot by to explain the differences between capture, storage and sequestration. It is a lo-fi, no-budget thing that explains with examples and gives examples of actual biological shortcuts to carbon sequestration, no trees involved. The short-cut closest to real sequestration is marine and there are other routes, also marine that aren't mentioned. ua-cam.com/video/ZadE0OWwtWY/v-deo.html A challenge to you: watch it and see what you think. I think the distinction is damned important.

    • @LibreGlider
      @LibreGlider 6 місяців тому

      Trees & plants both capture and sequester carbon. Capture is done via the Stomata, Carbon Dioxide intake, and sequestering is done via the Calvin cycle, Carbon fixation. It really doesn't matter where the Carbon ends up after capture or sequestration. What you want to avoid is burning whatever final form this carbon takes. Combustion of hydrocarbons is what produces Carbon Dioxide and of more of the problem. And to sequester just means to isolate or separate. It's not some permanently locked away thing. Doesn't matter if it is a few hundred-year-old trees or a 50M year-old forest that is now oil or coal.

    • @anemone104
      @anemone104 6 місяців тому

      @@LibreGlider Sorry, you're missing the point. 'Sequester' does mean to isolate or separate: to separate from biospheric processes in this instance. Fossil carbon (oil, coal, gas, lignite) is separated from the biosphere in the earth's crust. You can add in fossil carbon in carbonate rocks like chalk and limestone/marble and carbonate-cemented sandstones, but you can't use those for fuel. Use of fossil carbon as fuel is where the problem has arisen - millions and millions of tonnes since the late 18th century. Trees only store carbon (produced by photosynthesis) temporarily. A vanishingy small percentage of the carbon you see stored in a forest will make its way into sequestration in the Earth's crust via geological processes. The rest is and remains available for use by life - cycling in the biosphere. Combustion of wood fuel or biodiesel is just speeding that cycling. Burning coal or gas is burning sequestered carbon and adding to the problem. By (falsely) claiming that trees sequester carbon, one aids the argument of vested interests that there is no problem and if there is planting trees can fix it. It can't. Not enough land, not enough trees and the trees' capacity for carbon storage is finite. Watch this: ua-cam.com/video/ZadE0OWwtWY/v-deo.html for a more detailed analysis.

  • @anemone104
    @anemone104 8 місяців тому

    Planting trees is only part of the equation. We have more trees and woodland now that we have had since the end of the first world war (your own figures in this video). Another question we must address is the management (and productivity) of our existing woodlands. Why is it so bloody hard to get support for managing small woodlands? Reinstating coppicing, supporting markets for coppice products, training coppice workers would all help support small-scale rural economic enterprises (including farmers). Not just grant aid support, but new barriers brought in such as the recent Ready to Burn/Woodsure malarkey which chills the production of high quality wood fuels by small scale producers working on a small local scale. Idiocy.

    • @WoodForTheTrees
      @WoodForTheTrees 8 місяців тому

      Thanks for your comment. You might like our film about the challenges and opportunities for small woodlands, filmed a couple of years ago at Hillyfield farm. ua-cam.com/video/guJOZG6EQbg/v-deo.htmlsi=s8BzUj-TeuFGDpyD

  • @robwashers
    @robwashers 8 місяців тому

    Tom And Vic Davies farmed in Somerset (their family 200+ yrs) until my parents bought the 200 acre farm in 1970. Every Saturday they use to go to Taunton market where they always bought a tree sapling to then plant on the farm. As a result the farm is still today one of the most wooded and beautiful farms I have ever seen (biased). Oh a side note was when my parents retired in 2010 Gorse reappeared on the steep slopes . However, after 10 years of the Gorse, naturally propertied tree saplings are appearing everywhere they get the protection from the Gorse to allow them to grow past their 4- 6 foot vulnerable stage of life (previously the Deer and Cattle ate the saplings). Keeping hedgerows tightly trimmed and not having trees growing in fields is still today seen as good practice in my local farming community.

    • @WoodForTheTrees
      @WoodForTheTrees 8 місяців тому

      Thanks for commenting. That farm sounds wonderful. You may enjoy our film about the benefits of planting trees on a smallholding in Somerset: ua-cam.com/video/KxcgBz3-VE0/v-deo.html

    • @MassiveChetBakerFan
      @MassiveChetBakerFan 5 місяців тому

      I love gorse.

  • @ginojaco
    @ginojaco 8 місяців тому

    I'm farming in West Wales, beef and lamb. Including wide fenced-in hedges, typically about ten feet wide and filled with standards down to shrubs, I guess about 15% of my lands are wooded, and about half of that periodically has livestock through it. I have put in many more trees, plashed others and am open to having more trees, but... I NEED to earn a living from my land. On principle, I do not and never have claimed subsidy; I would have no problem with receiving a specific PERMANENT annual payment for land given over to woodland. But... what about food 'security' and food 'miles'?

    • @WoodForTheTrees
      @WoodForTheTrees 8 місяців тому

      Thanks for sharing your comments. You might like our films on agroforestry which covers some of those issues around food miles and food security: This is about the benefits of trees on a smallholding in Somerset, ua-cam.com/video/iiKw_vC1RIY/v-deo.htmlsi=sV3AAQKaOwNIqzcB and this film on 'What holds back Agroforestry' filmed at Riverford organic farm. ua-cam.com/video/CNegVN8wOzg/v-deo.htmlsi=4G48-wah5Y9IwKJD

  • @johnfowler4820
    @johnfowler4820 8 місяців тому

    Bureaucracy. Can not plant trees without permission. Ridiculous Britain.

    • @WoodForTheTrees
      @WoodForTheTrees 8 місяців тому

      Thanks for commenting. This rule applies to larger scale tree planting projects, and to some environmentally sensitive locations. According to the Woodland Trust "In England, planning permission isn't needed if your project is under 2ha and in a low risk area." Have you seen our film about why we need to plant more trees?ua-cam.com/video/lFREO94UQGo/v-deo.htmlsi=ijfOG6ADwKIr2jN3

    • @RobCleaver
      @RobCleaver 8 місяців тому

      We need some regulation because of the amount of peat and other important habitats that have been planted in the past. The current approval process requires all parties to be sufficiently resourced and motivated to help get good schemes through. We run into problems when both of these are not happening. The requirements for when a Forestry EIA might be required are set out on the EIA form. assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/652ced3e6972600014ccf834/1_EIA_Afforestation_application_form_v1.1_FINAL.pdf