Roderick Walker
Roderick Walker
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Tying three Daddies or Hoppers
Fly tying three easy patterns of Daddy long legs flies or as some would say Hoppers, showing how to make them with extra durability.
These flies will fish well for all types of trout.
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Відео

Tying game fish flies on the cheap without a vice
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Tying game fish flies on the cheap without a vice, I show how to put together some simple flies that fish well for rainbow trout and other game fish. I demonstrate the movement of the flies in water.
Fly fishing close to Ullapool in Sutherland Scotland
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Four days fishing in very cold wet conditions in Scotland, fly fishing the Sutherland lochs in the loch Cam area.
Try for a Salmon
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End of season mutterings back on the river looking for a salmon in as always in the rain.
Andy tries fly fishing
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Taking my friend Andy fly fishing for the first time in his life, on a day with a very cold wind .
Patience pays when dry fly fishing
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Patience pays when dry fly fishing for trout, the video shows a few fish taken on the fly after a very slow start to the day.
How to Gravlax a trout
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How to Gravlax a trout in detail using a rainbow trout that I have caught by fishing dry fly at Hury reservoir.
A GREAT DAYS FLY FISHING
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Fishing for rainbow trout in the rain at Hury reservoir and getting lots of epic sport on both wet and dry flies, the video shows fish fighting and jumping on a day with non stop rain.
TWO DAYS A WEEK APART FLY FISHING IN THE UK WEATHER
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Hard to believe that these two days shown on the video are only a week apart, fly fishing Loch Cam and fishing Sweethope .
Fly fishing in Sutherland Scotland for trout and sea trout
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Fly fishing in Sutherland Scotland for trout and sea trout in late June 2024, many fish landed in mixed weather conditions .
Fly fishing on two extreme days
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Fly fishing on two extreme days only three days apart with opposite weather conditions
Dry fly fun at Sweethope
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Dry fly fun at Sweethope fishing the smaller lake on a very windy day
ePROPULSION SPIRIT 1.0 PLUS electric outboard motor
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This video shows the motor powering a number of boats in rough windy conditions .
Sweethope Loughs fly fishing
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Sweethope Loughs fly fishing for trout on a August day with small flies
WET FLY FOR GRAYLING
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Fishing wet spider patterns for grayling fish caught and lost, July 2024
WET FLY FISHING TIPS
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WET FLY FISHING TIPS
WET FLY FISHING
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WET FLY FISHING
Scenic fly fishing
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Scenic fly fishing
Fly fishing Nice to be out
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Fly fishing Nice to be out
FLY FISHING
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FLY FISHING
Brown trout on dry fly
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Brown trout on dry fly
River dry fly fishing
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River dry fly fishing
Fishing dry fly at Sweethope fishery
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Fishing dry fly at Sweethope fishery
Fly fishing at Fontburn reservoir
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Fly fishing at Fontburn reservoir
Trout fly fishing at Cow Green
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Trout fly fishing at Cow Green
Wild brown trout fishing at Cow Green reservoir
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Wild brown trout fishing at Cow Green reservoir
two bad days fly fishing
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two bad days fly fishing
ROD LICENCE CHECK WHILE FLY FISHING FOR TROUT
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ROD LICENCE CHECK WHILE FLY FISHING FOR TROUT
A great day fly fishing
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A great day fly fishing
Fly tying {not a Griffith's gnat}
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Fly tying {not a Griffith's gnat}

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @StGosch
    @StGosch 5 днів тому

    Kind regards from Germany. I discovered her channel today and the videos are really helpful. Have a nice and blessed fishing year.

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 5 днів тому

      @@StGosch thank you if the conditions are good I plan a lot more sea trout fishing videos. Best wishes to you and a happy new year from a cold wet UK. Regards Rod

  • @camerarover7124
    @camerarover7124 24 дні тому

    Fascinating. Thanks for sharing.

  • @LemonGray
    @LemonGray 24 дні тому

    Hi Roderick, a tremendous help to line up patterns for the Long legs. Appreciate it if you could remember what that gray- brown saddle title is- would it be a Herbert Miner, or a Metz in dark gray dun? A fabulous general saddle. This is a lovely contribution for dressers to review, well done, excellent. Enjoy a prosperous 2025

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 23 дні тому

      Hi sorry I think it is Metz but I purchased those feathers at least 30 years ago. I have the same brown -gray in Whiting's feathers, chose not to show them because the cost is going sky high, and I did not want to put fishers of due to price. My fly tying materials has taken me 50 plus years to build up. I appreciate your post a lot, regards Rod

    • @LemonGray
      @LemonGray 23 дні тому

      @@roderickwalker491 Hi Roderick, I would be in the same position, and 53 years dressing. It brought back a memory of using a grey brown similar/ same hackle as a general wing/ legs on many fly patterns. I found a Whiting HM Pro gray cape, not quiet right, but I suspect the saddle may be darker and more balanced. I am going to look in to this further, especially with hen cape applications and see what is out there. Thank You for activating a common sense memory.

  • @durhamranger988
    @durhamranger988 24 дні тому

    I like your technique for tying in the legs,they are tricky at the best of times. Will definitely try this when I next tie a few daddies. Thank you for the tip.

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 23 дні тому

      Hi it is annoying when all your Daddy legs just pull out on the first fish, that is why I build my flies for durability and not to impress someone with OCD. Many thanks regards Rod

  • @patkennedy9629
    @patkennedy9629 Місяць тому

    Nice little ripple on the Lough perfect for dibblin a team of wets.one of the places I always wanted to fish it's a long drive from south of Ireland, it would make a change from fishing Corrib and Mask that are not fishing as good as they used to. Tight lines. Pat Kennedy.

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 28 днів тому

      Hi I wish I had an action cam the first time I fished Orkney , we caught dozens of fight trout. Do try to go there it is worth the trip. Regards Rod

  • @scottthefunkRedPill
    @scottthefunkRedPill Місяць тому

    I have just ordered this exact rod I am looking forward to using it even more now.

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 Місяць тому

      @@scottthefunkRedPill It is a great buy I get fun with small fish but I have no problems with big rainbows. Good luck Rod

  • @himoopooh
    @himoopooh Місяць тому

    Great fishing, what was the sea loch ?

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 Місяць тому

      @@himoopooh Hi our accommodation was beside the sea loch but the fishing I did was on the fresh water lochs. All the best Rod

  • @CalumWhite-jn7dv
    @CalumWhite-jn7dv Місяць тому

    Your wife’s a trooper, putting up with that rain! Lovely video of truly wild brown trout fishing.

  • @durhamranger988
    @durhamranger988 Місяць тому

    Well done to you and your wife for braving the atrocious weather conditions. It is good to see you were rewarded with a few fish. ATB

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 Місяць тому

      @@durhamranger988 Hi my wife amazed me no complaints the whole four days. I miss the place,just hope I am well to go next year. Many thanks Rod

    • @richardwilliamson3624
      @richardwilliamson3624 Місяць тому

      You must of just caught the end of the trout season 👍 To avoid confusion, Ullapool is in Ross-shire. Where you were fishing, close to Elphin is Sutherland. You should try and make the Elphin chicken races next year if you can. Always a laugh. Suprised you don’t stay at Altnacealgach or at the Oykel.

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 Місяць тому

      I like Ullapool as a base more choice with eating out I find the roads are a joy to drive so l do not mind a few miles, and if the mood takes me I can fish some of the lochs South of Ullapool. Best wishes Rod

  • @mikejames663
    @mikejames663 2 місяці тому

    Enjoyed that Rod, I'll have a go at it after my next outing.

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 2 місяці тому

      Hi it is great to do it now and freeze ready for Christmas a nice starter , Regards Rod

    • @mikejames663
      @mikejames663 2 місяці тому

      @@roderickwalker491 Thanks.

  • @Richyneedham
    @Richyneedham 2 місяці тому

    Great video, I really like that boat, how did it drift? Do you know what its called and also that engine looks great. Thanks 👍

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 2 місяці тому

      Hi the boats drift just fine as they are very heavy, I do not know the make. The motor is mine I have done few reviews on it if you look on my channel RO DERICK WALKER , look for epropulsion spirit plus. Many thanks for your comments. Regards Rod

    • @richardwilliamson3624
      @richardwilliamson3624 25 днів тому

      We would refer to the inflatable boat as a tender. There’s lots of makes. For sale at boat chandlers. Normally towed behind a bigger vessel like a yacht.

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 23 дні тому

      @@richardwilliamson3624 Hi yes and no it is a craft in its own right, there's lots of cheap ones on the market but they will develop air leaks and other problems. I was told by the company that I got my motor from that Honda was one of the best . Regards Rod

  • @michaelfreeman3536
    @michaelfreeman3536 2 місяці тому

    Hello Roderick I have an 8wt speyrod what size reel should I get?

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 2 місяці тому

      @@michaelfreeman3536 get the smallest one in the range, it will take a 8 weight and lots of backing. Rod👍

    • @michaelfreeman3536
      @michaelfreeman3536 2 місяці тому

      So what model is that? Thank you!

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 2 місяці тому

      Hi danielsson-flyreels.se/en/flyreels/control-series it is the 7-12 model on that page.😁

  • @markj3853
    @markj3853 2 місяці тому

    So sorry for your loss. Hopefully you have many happy memories to look back on fondly.

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 2 місяці тому

      Yes I have over 38 holidays fishing together and hundreds of days. Regards Rod

  • @andrewhargreaves7225
    @andrewhargreaves7225 2 місяці тому

    Condolences on the passing of your friend.

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 2 місяці тому

      Thanks, the funeral was at the same time I set the video to go on line. Regards Rod

  • @BEN10TO10
    @BEN10TO10 2 місяці тому

    You like fishing at Sweethope, how long does it take you to get there from Carlisle ?

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 2 місяці тому

      @@BEN10TO10 about 1-15 to 1-30 depending on traffic. I think it will be closed until spring. Regards Rod

  • @UserOne-vh3gv
    @UserOne-vh3gv 2 місяці тому

    Nice video! I want to try fly fishing in the future!

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 2 місяці тому

      Hi I am going to do a few videos on starting fly fishing but those will be out next spring, hopefully with better weather. Thanks Rod

  • @patriceverge6949
    @patriceverge6949 2 місяці тому

    The best for me!

  • @patriceverge6949
    @patriceverge6949 2 місяці тому

    The best for me!

  • @jimmymillar9247
    @jimmymillar9247 2 місяці тому

    Couldnt agree more on the easterly wind point,its been the same up here for your fellow dry fly fishers in the central belt.Enjoying your videos…keep them coming…👍

  • @trevorluft1763
    @trevorluft1763 2 місяці тому

    What rod are you using please?

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 2 місяці тому

      Hi the Rod is a Shimano 9-8 two weight, I was using a three weight DT line with it. Regards Rod

  • @tonyrowley1096
    @tonyrowley1096 2 місяці тому

    Great watch , very interesting 🎣👍🏻

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 2 місяці тому

      @@tonyrowley1096 Hi unfortunately I have had too many very cold days this year 🤢 , I hope next year is better for all of us. Regards Rod

    • @tonyrowley1096
      @tonyrowley1096 2 місяці тому

      @@roderickwalker491 I fished yesterday at thrunton long crag , all the anglers were saying how cold it was , it was around 4 degrees, I wasn’t feeling it at all Probably because am over weight ha good interesting video hope you keep them coming, heard hury has fished fantastic this year I’m yet to go but I shall definitely make it next year more intrigued after watching this , thanks rod tight lines 🎣

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 2 місяці тому

      @@tonyrowley1096 👍

  • @mattfroehlick5923
    @mattfroehlick5923 3 місяці тому

    Looks delicious, I can't wait to try it myself. Great video Rod.

  • @dmp2000uk
    @dmp2000uk 3 місяці тому

    Well I’m off to Hury next week to get myself a trout to gravlax. The ‘here’s one I did earlier’ looked really appetising. Bet it’s good with scrambled eggs, in a seafood risotto, or just with prawns in a sarnie. Great vid, thank you. 👍

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 3 місяці тому

      Hi if you cook it it goes back to tasting like cooked trout, try in soft bread rolls with sliced tomatoes. Regards Rod

    • @dmp2000uk
      @dmp2000uk 3 місяці тому

      @@roderickwalker491 Looking forward to that. I think Hury is now ‘any method’ for the rest of the season because Grassholme is closed due to some problem with the lodge. P.S. Pin boning is a right faff, and chavels the flesh. I wonder if it is easier to pin bone after curing when the flesh is firmer ?

  • @JoeQuinnFollow_the_fln
    @JoeQuinnFollow_the_fln 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for sharing, will have a go myself to see what it's like 👍

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 3 місяці тому

      I am sure you will be happy. Regards Rod

    • @neilwalton504
      @neilwalton504 3 місяці тому

      Well done Rod. Delighted to see you completed the process with all digits intact !

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 3 місяці тому

      It was touch and go. 😄

  • @pauljohnstone5213
    @pauljohnstone5213 3 місяці тому

    Another enjoyable video.

  • @davidhumphreys7931
    @davidhumphreys7931 3 місяці тому

    Another very interesting and enjoyable video,many thanks.

  • @justinmcquaide4862
    @justinmcquaide4862 3 місяці тому

    Brilliant video I’ve just bought a lot of these whiting hen capes and the Lakeland exclusive whiting hen range . The really are first class !

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 3 місяці тому

      Hi Lakeland is a very good company for quality feathers, hope the fish think so. Regards Rod

  • @BuleBadot
    @BuleBadot 3 місяці тому

    keep up the spirit friend, hello from me Indonesia,, nice to see your video,, 👍👍

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 3 місяці тому

      Thank you I hope you have good fishing in Indonesia, all the best to you. Rod

  • @grahamelder4197
    @grahamelder4197 3 місяці тому

    It was interesting to see Hury on a grim day. Do you just let the daddies drift and wait for a rise?

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 3 місяці тому

      The flies just drift but if I think that a fish is close by I will give a short pull that can work to trigger a take. Regards Rod

  • @paulirwin3737
    @paulirwin3737 3 місяці тому

    Well done Twist some lovely fish, Enjoy your Videos, 👍🎣

  • @simonpurves122
    @simonpurves122 3 місяці тому

    anybody been up now it's any methods ,wondor how much rubbish is left there. more positive ,great videos

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 3 місяці тому

      Unfortunately bin loads of rubbish will be left by some. Many bait fishers are super skilled but a few spoilt things for the majority. Regards Rod

  • @durhamranger988
    @durhamranger988 3 місяці тому

    Well done for braving the atrocious weather, pleased to see you were rewarded with a few nice fish. I look forward to your next adventure.

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 3 місяці тому

      More to come! next week, many thanks. Regards Rod

  • @BillySmith-i7w
    @BillySmith-i7w 3 місяці тому

    Is your reel a hardy marquis

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 3 місяці тому

      Hi no the reel is a JMC Equinox I have made a video about it if you do a search. Regards Rod

  • @JohnWaller-i5z
    @JohnWaller-i5z 3 місяці тому

    Thanks for the videos, unfortunately bait fishing has now begun on hury due to damage to the lodge at grassholme according to Facebook, so I'll be on before the weekend thanks again for the tips and videos

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 3 місяці тому

      Thanks for the info I may not go back until spring. Regards Rod

    • @JohnWaller-i5z
      @JohnWaller-i5z 3 місяці тому

      Hi rod,fished hury today,got two nice fish,4lb and 3.5lb lost another nice one all from reedy point one on Dawson's and the others took a red booby on the washing line, couldn't get a pull anywhere else,water very low and according to the warden they're gonna drop it another 10 meters!!!, lots of bait anglers on, next year for me now, hope this helps regards

  • @trevorluft1763
    @trevorluft1763 3 місяці тому

    Can we see some of your Hury flies tied please?

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 3 місяці тому

      Yes you can I will only show flies that worked well for me in this very difficult year. Please be patient because I have a lot on at the moment so in a week or two. Regards Rod

    • @trevorluft1763
      @trevorluft1763 3 місяці тому

      @@roderickwalker491 thank you! I need some inspiration

  • @erichaswell6742
    @erichaswell6742 3 місяці тому

    Here on the River Wear, we are expecting in the next 4 weeks, the very best season for fly fishing Sea trout. With the rain downpour yesterday, the rivers getting a good wash through at the moment. Have you any hints or tips, or any plans for another fly fish sea trout video?

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 3 місяці тому

      Hi I had at the start of the year a lot of sea trout fishing videos planned but thanks to the weather it did not happen. I wanted to do a few on night fishing, I like to prove what I say works I needed stable warm weather for a few days to stand a chance of showing a fish or two after dark. Thirty years ago a poor night was two fish and this was fishing cheap ticket water. As for tips have a look at some of my wet fly videos. I hope you get some sport. Regards Rod

    • @erichaswell6742
      @erichaswell6742 3 місяці тому

      @@roderickwalker491 Much appreciated for your reply and Yes, the weather is very unpredictable, so is our water! lately it’s a very dark mucky brown. For your night fishing or specific day time sea trout fishing, would you use your 3# weight or would go longer and larger? At the moment I'm no where near your gear set up. I’m intending to use a 8'6” 4# fly rod or a Spey type 12'6” 7#, both with floating line, intermediate leader (to much weed for sinking) and I’ve never gone lower than a 8lb tippet? and various flies. I’m looked at your excellent wet fly videos, keep up your good work. Much appreciated Regards

  • @craighill2086
    @craighill2086 3 місяці тому

    Hi rod just got my shimano xr fly rod 10ft wondered if you had ferrules longer than wrapping binding.nice stiff action for a 3 weight .Very interesting that ferrules dont meet up to each other bit amusing .

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 3 місяці тому

      Ferrules are often like that, to allow for wear , do not ram them tight rub with a candle to help stop them from sticking. You have a good Rod. Regards Rod

  • @BEN10TO10
    @BEN10TO10 3 місяці тому

    Its been a poor Summer all round, not done much fishing at all this year !

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 3 місяці тому

      My river fishing has been totally spoilt by rain.😃

    • @BEN10TO10
      @BEN10TO10 3 місяці тому

      @@roderickwalker491 Yep, mine too. Hope its better next year. 👍👍

  • @markandeileen5950
    @markandeileen5950 3 місяці тому

    My wife and I are just back from a week in Morvern.. We had torrential rain and gale force wind to start, then blazing sunshine. So not a lot of fish caught. We enjoyed the sun though and the Highlands are always the best place to be.

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 3 місяці тому

      The Highlands are amazing but it would be nice to just get an okay week. Regards Rod

  • @petercroft1365
    @petercroft1365 3 місяці тому

    Hi rod. If it's not any comfort to you my fishing partner Carole & me suffered the same atrocious weather a little further north in assent. Such are the vagaries of the British weather, it wasn't comfortable but we tried

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 3 місяці тому

      For me and you the issue is that we do not have an unlimited life span to get a week when the weather is just okay, so many holidays have been spoilt by freak weather. Regards Rod

  • @michaelfreeman3536
    @michaelfreeman3536 3 місяці тому

    This real looks insane! I’m buying one!

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 3 місяці тому

      You will not be disappointed very well made and looks as if you could use it forever. Regards Rod

    • @michaelfreeman3536
      @michaelfreeman3536 3 місяці тому

      Great video you made! I currently have 5 of the danielsson reels and am very pleased. Can beat the engineering and price!

  • @durhamranger988
    @durhamranger988 3 місяці тому

    Some good sport on day four! Those wild brownies are strong fighters. Especially good to see you catching a few seatrout. They are very scarce these days.

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 3 місяці тому

      Thanks and the best thing is all the fish went back alive and kicking. Rod😃

  • @highlandfishingdiary8818
    @highlandfishingdiary8818 3 місяці тому

    You had some great fishing there, looked like the wind helped you bar the final day. Cracker of a sea trout at the end, well fished to you both. Lovely part of the world, endless fishing possibilities.

  • @davidhumphreys7931
    @davidhumphreys7931 3 місяці тому

    Another wonderful video thank you very much.

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 3 місяці тому

      My pleasure, pleased you enjoyed it. Regards Rod

  • @ChristiaanC458
    @ChristiaanC458 3 місяці тому

    Its Beautyfull in The Highlands, Love it, Greetings From Holland.

  • @LisaMeadows-tx4yf
    @LisaMeadows-tx4yf 4 місяці тому

    Another great video Roderick, I have shared to our Facebook page. Many thanks Lisa

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 4 місяці тому

      @@LisaMeadows-tx4yf more to come I hope😃😄

  • @ralpabetical
    @ralpabetical 4 місяці тому

    At least you seem to be getting out plenty of times, whatever the weather. You did well getting those rainbows in such bright weather. Did you say daddy longlegs? They're one of the best things about late summer!

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 4 місяці тому

      Hi I make a very light weight daddy longlegs with a deer hair body easy to tie and on a cloudy day fish will happily take it static floating. Regards Rod

  • @craighill2086
    @craighill2086 4 місяці тому

    Hi roderick buying 10 ft 3 weight interested in what floating fly line you use and recommend

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 4 місяці тому

      Hi I use these three lines for long cast Masterline thistle down 2-5 in a boat Cortland Sylk 4 weight DT f and dry fly on a calm day Airflo dt3f I hope this helps. Regards Rod

  • @davidhumphreys7931
    @davidhumphreys7931 4 місяці тому

    Another lovely video many thanks.

  • @stuartmarriott8056
    @stuartmarriott8056 4 місяці тому

    I love swinging wets and spiders but am losing fish, particularly when they hit on the hang. Any advice about ‘striking’ when fishing wets? Also, what weight nylon are you using here?

    • @roderickwalker491
      @roderickwalker491 4 місяці тому

      @@stuartmarriott8056 Hi I am the master at losing fish but I have found that a strike is not required just lift the rod a little modern barbless hooks go in so easily and that is the problem they come out so easily , I like a hook shape in which the point curves back on its self a little also wide gape and heavier wire helps. Nylon now I seldom go less than 6lb, modern stuff is so thin now. Regards Rod