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For what it is and does, comparing prices. It’s an easy yes for me. As you see it is a little “jerkier” than a name brand. However, does what I need it to do and saved around 10k easy.

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Nice! They sure do help!

The ZX22 runs a YANMAR Diesel engine with 24hp. Retractable tracks to go narrow, hydraulic thumb, and a pivoting arm. The machine is a Kymron ZX22 and Q&A equipment sales were the guys whom I bought from and personally met.

Strange…

Yes they ended up shipping them, just tanks aren’t in stock so it would be something ordered.

Yes it is a 2 ton. Prices have changed, they’re listed at Q&A equipment sales. Even larger or smaller ones too.

They have a few, but I bought from the one in Kentucky. They also do ship and are very easy to work with. Give Steve or Brad a call from Q&A equipment and feel free to pick their brains.

@toddwynn1968 Had my fair share of Audi’s but I would say I’ve had more room and guidance than with this.

@franknorth1573 So far no, I’ve been using it and it’s holding up. Has helped get some jobs done quite well. Thanks for asking.

@gophers_machinery Much appreciated! 👍

@markcook2086 I’m sorry to hear that. I would imagine that at that size and price point you’re more prone to getting a better inspected and built machine. Any other issues that you can share, especially since it’s very low on hours?

@craigcharlestone I agree, that’s what I felt was much better. There is a feeling of some salesman vibe, but overall they’ve still answered all my calls. How are you liking yours?

@BrightthgirB I wouldn’t be nervous, it’s a good expense and yes there are things that arise but it can happen with any machine. I will say the good is that in theory they are a simple machine overall. Not many electronics into them. So it should be a somewhat simple fix.

​@BeyondMachinery Thanks man! Much appreciated.

@jtmoney724 that’s pretty spot on.

@tsifour you are around 60 for one of those new.

@Chrisrosado3929 At the time I had 3 hours on the machine which is what blew my mind. Granted I do feel these problems were already coming up since it seemed way too little time to run through wiring and the tank just came bad. Very thin material on the tank for sure. I’d like to see if a plastic one could be modified on to it. That would hold up a lot better with time and vibration.

@@BeyondMachinery I got my machine to use it for residential jobs. I'm at 30 hours now. Hoping no major repairs for a while.

@dibber13 Correct time is money and it just sucks that this did happen. Twice now! Hopefully it’s a clean stretch from here now on it. You considering getting one?

@Tiersmoke92555 That’s a tough one, but I feel an important thing to have if available. How do they compare price wise?

@@BeyondMachinery They are with in $500-1500 depending on options. As far as I can tell from info found online they are comparable equipment and warranty. I think the delivery fees will be another factor to consider. Kymron has Four dealers while Groundhog has 22.

@@Tiersmoke92555 I’d be very interested but I have heard some say that Kymron is a rebranded groundhog excavator. I think the same holds true to really go through the machine fully and address anything that may seem to not be of your full comfort. If I get to test out one, I’ll be sure to get a video up on it.

@hamop3 much appreciated!

@hamop3 Good to hear you’ve had a straight worker! Really nice to hear about these long term owners that were content and happy with their purchase after some years on it. I’m hoping that is the case with this one! Best of luck and thanks for the support!

Nice! It does have a 3-year warranty but that only covers parts not the labor/service to fix it.

@Tonyneal428 so the warranty covers parts not service/labor. Anything you need they send it out and supply it but they don’t do the work.

@Jakeroininen6298 Will do! 😂

@Acekg1911 that’s the plan to get it to work and do an oil change video on it here soon! Very nice, that’s a decent size one and they can do quite a bit of work for their size.

I Think I'm Going to just strip the Bitch down so I know my Machine after my 10 hour oil change warranty recommendation! And keep my confidence strong in this machine! THANKS and Share all you got.

@Neilkoster4823 I’m excited for you! There’s definitely a good feeling to picking a brand new machine! No worries that’s what I’m here for. Like I said these are videos I would of wanted to see. Tough though since I am working on the field all the time and do these as I can! That rattle is awful! Little plugs worked well so far as the metal that secures the panels is not a solid size, it gets wider further back.

That would be a really good idea. It isn’t much once you take the panels apart. It is pretty open from there, I would just check the wires for sure at the very least. Aside from that by 10-hours you should be able to see if there are any leaks starting or present. Keep us updated!

Hey Neil, I believe this wire rubbing issue and potential for leaking tank have been resolved on the latest batch of machines (yours). We'll see!

@@parsleyequipment This must be Adam! Pretty cool your putting some videos up as well. I'm glad to be a customer of this franchise that I already see is taking off LIKE CRAZZZY! These issues don't pose a threat to me, but they may to others. Thanks to @BeyondMachinery This most definitely HELPS OUT! I will keep in touch with both of you guys with any of my issues on the machine, And One More 👍For @BeyondMachinery

@Tacomafan7488 As long as it’s working out for you that’s all that matters! Some of these machines for the smaller jobs. I’m probably one of the few that is interested in putting them into a rigorous commercial setting! Which I do believe is the true test as an everyday machine. If I could I’d like to try out a mini and a wheel loader!

@Tacomafan7488 oh annoying for sure! No matter how small! It was a pain! We will see if it holds up for a while now hopefully!

@@BeyondMachinery I bought hightop brand ! I think that’s where kymron orders ! Didn’t have any problems at all! I guess I was lucky!

@Balamala2647 Those I don’t have much experience with. However, there are some incentives going on right now that are pretty motivating. If you see my last video we actually just got another vermeer, the CTX160.

Me and my buddy have matching Ditch Witch sk 1050. Both have had wires rub through from poor routing and hydraulic hoses rubbed thru. Had to replace the screens on both. Mine shorted the computer when it rubbed thru and was down for a year.

So currently I was offered an E20 which is of similar comparison. The difference is every bit of 10k depends where you’re at. However, to me there was still plenty saving going Kymron.

@@BeyondMachinery Yeah the Bobcat MT100 is more than double of the price of the Kymron XTL30.

I originally was looking at the same model Kymron. There was an extremely long delivery time for it to be shipped here. I went with a Groundhog brand with a similar comparison to your model. So far it has been running well. I bought the machine with 4 attachments and it was still cheaper than Deere, Kubota, and Bobcat by several thousand. The price comparison for the name brands did not include attachments or hydraulic thumbs.

As someone who purchased a used E20 a year ago, I can tell you it is probably better in almost every way. And the E20 has a joystick mounted button to control the thumb. It seems to me these Chinese units have gotten to be enough money where the difference isn't that big of a deal to upgrade to the name brand while at the same time lacking the comforts and features and reliability of the name brands.

@Outdoorsy368 yeah I agree, it’s had its quirks more than I would of liked right from the get go. I’m lucky they haven’t been major, and I’ve been having support from Kymron. I don’t regret it yet, the savings are still worth it. The true test will stand if it lasts 3-years or more.

@@BeyondMachinery thanks bro, electrical problems are the worst

@Oscarbear7498 While it is a good idea, I would not go too cheap and really be hand with machines as some issues can arise on them. The gas ones ones are easier to use and fix, however, the cost savings is what truly drove me towards the purchase of one. Is there a specific model you are looking at or size you need?

@metaspencer Agreed, there are some downsides, not knocking just putting the real behind everyday use on it. Thanks for the support!

@lwwarren to me the 925 does turn slow in comparison to many other machines. While the 160 does turn faster and can do 360's I don't like the stress it puts on terrain and the tracks. I've been eyeing some turf tired wheel loaders and may just rent some int order to find out whether it helps production or makes no difference. We did also purchase the turf mats though and those are a plus.

I agree 100% I just upload everything I deal machine wise cause we use so many and they’re some I wish I could find. Got some on a mini skid coming too.

I will, What was your buying experience like? Any idea when you are supposed to get yours?

I’ve never looked for some on Amazon, but if they start carrying them and ship them that’s pretty cool!

I wouldn't say it's a rip off. They are smart they delt with all the bs. And fees ans terrifs and much more to get them here. Quit hating and do your research. You can buy them cheaper yes. But get ready for a shit ton of work and research.

@@gunnerranch I did do my research and thats how I know it's a ripoff. Maybe you should be researching instead of bothering me with your jibber jabber ?

@@gunnerranch it's not a shit ton of research either.

@bhhvvbvgyvbuvv thanks bud I ain't a window shopper or a hater. I actually ordered one direct from the factory.

You said it very well! As of right now that’s what I am trying to figure out. So far have not and most buckets seem to be proprietary to their own machine. For instance kubota, Deere, cat, and bobcat apparently have different buckets. Next goal is to measure all hinge specs and compare to see which comes closest. Currently trying to cross reference filters needed for the machine. Thankfully the motor is a yanmar motor which should be easier to get than if it were something strictly Chinese.

You got the right idea! Slowly but surely that’s the plan to atleast have major components worked out with cross reference numbers and areas for replacement parts. That way if I’m case they’re readily available and accessible when needed. Thanks for the comment, was a good one!

Here’s why I bought this specific one, there’s some dealer support. I have adequate reach and attachment availability. Besides the machine, it has upgraded drive motors and better pilot controls. It has a hydraulic thumb and it’s brought to your house ready to go. Fraction of the price of a brand name and well known machine. If it works, I saved money, and was well worth it. Time will tell, so we will see. Others may have different reasoning so maybe others want to chime in?

They range widely, best thing to do is go on the website and look at the model you’re interested in and it gives you the prices there.

I agree, the only time it did doit was when the idle was all the way down and I tried to move it.

Imported fuses are a crap shoot at best. Have replaced too many , use Buss fuses and almost all fuse issues go away., unless you do truly have an electrical short.

Did they warranty it or did you have to pay out of pocket to fix? You’re very right, everything whether made here or anywhere else can have flaws. I appreciate your comment and input!

Really? What kind of problems are you having?

Curious about problems with the groundhog also; it was on the list to check out; they have a pretty good sales pitch too. More research but the more UA-cam videos I watch there seems to be a "gotcha" with these cheaper machines. I really can't justify the cost of one of the "big boys" even though I could afford it (not sure the wife would agree 😁). I have a sub-frame backhoe on the 42 HP Kobota tractor that I can take on and off but it's hard to impossible to get into some of the places I want to work. If I knew the company actually stood behind the machine with parts I could live with that (within reason) and do the work.

I dug out a lot of it, but since I only had the tooth bucket I was limited and didn’t want to damage the asphalt anymore than I had too. Really could of used that smooth bucket!

That’s a good idea!

No issues yet is good though! What made you steer away from kubota if you don’t mind my asking?

@BeyondMachinery I mainly did not think the value for the performance I needed was there. Not to mislead anyone into thinking it was just the price, it was requiring moving up a size or two to get the performance of other brands, then the physical size of the larger tractor limits the maneuverability in tight spots or requires purchasing a larger trailer or bigger truck. But there was also the cost of adding features that come standard on other brands. So, it was not just one thing in my situation. I still have my BX23 and it is small enough to get most anywhere I need. Just has its shortfalls in what it can do. Hope that helps.

True, looking at it that way it is a good thing. At the time it’s never fun to have the machine be down, but luckily it was something minor and easy.