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Alternative idea for the Garnac fight. Maybe Kalifa is the one to run after him and Ahsoka chases after her. Either to help her or try and stop her. We could then have it to where the two of them are just about even with him given how tired and hurt they both are. Then for Ahsoka's Dark Side moment, we could have it where Garnac has her pinned and starts to sadistically punch her in her wound over and over again. Ahsoka screams how in pain and rage then she uses those emotions to fling him away. Or alternatively we could have to where Kalifa is the one getting chocked out and Ahsoka has a brief flash back to O-Mer dying she either pushes him away or even have her start chocking him with the force. Just some idea's I thought of while listening to this.

She gaslights the droids into helping her, and gets them all destroyed.

I think George Lucas wanted an Avatar style show for himself. Because Filoni worked on Avatar as a story board artist. George made a mistake.

This course will proof to be interesting, really looking forward to it!

Ahsoka knowing Shriwook *could* make sense if she learned it from Plo Koon, who had to know it to communicate with his master Tyvokka. Do note that while Dave Filoni is known to not care about most of the EU, he has the cover picture of *The Stark Hyperspace War*, the story featuring Plo Koon and Tyvokka's relationship, framed on his wall. Still, even if that is true, it should have been explained in the show.

I like the fact that Obi Wan slays as many people as Anakin, but its evil only when Anakin does it.

The chip retcon ruined the clones. What once were soldiers bred to follow orders betraying their comrade jedi. Has becomed mind controlled zombies that are barely more sentient than droids.

Here we go with another video with you complaining about Ahsoka 😂

This is why I do not like this show. Even thou as a kid I liked season 1 and 2. And I even got the dvd for the movie. Ashoke should have always remained a random padawan going on adventures with the main characters for the KIDS watching. She was never supposed to be or should have been this fan fiction character thats present for everything and knows everyone. Never be this mary sue waifu for the adults that watch the show.

Ashoka Tano is 100% a mary sue. She is far worse than Rei, Rei never used time travel or force gods to cheat death. Ignore the simps, you described Ashoka the whole video. I dont like people claiming Luke is a mary sue, he gets defeated many times and has his friends to help him or save him.

Kalifa was such a good character. I remember being kinda mad she was killed off like that. I would have preferred if she was the main character, not Ahsoka, her voice actress was so much better too. 😢

This episode could have been so much more! And TCW blew it completely!

*Just a note:* We realized later we should have taken the opportunity to partially frame Ahsoka standing guard over Nute Gunray as a (failed) practice in patience to help strengthen the theme of this episode showing her impatience. And it would have been as simple as changing Luminara's direction to, "*Wait* for me here." (As opposed to just, "Stay here.")

*Just a note:* We recorded the end section about S1E4 when we were into our early S3 rewrites and, unfortunately, we didn't take a moment to refresh our memory regarding the lessons we'd already set up, and so we made the mistake of having Ahsoka be too trusting of Anakin, chronologically right *before* the arc where she learns to trust him. 😅 In hindsight, we should have had her showing more a little more cynicism toward his "bold" behaviour instead of full support and admiration.

I was never convinced that the parents were abusive. It’s true that they shouldn’t have made Elsa suppress her powers, but they probably had no idea what to do. They may not have known how to handle her anxiety, and they definitely didn’t know how to handle her powers. Yes, Iduna did grow up around magic, but she wouldn’t have any knowledge about controlling magic because the magic she was around came from magical spirits who couldn’t talk. Bruni couldn’t explain how to control fire magic, so Iduna couldn’t ask out of curiosity and happen to have advice for Elsa because of it. I’ve said this on this channel before but I disagree with the idea that Elsa’s parents made her fear her powers. However, I only disagree to an extent. My disagreement comes from the fact that Elsa was already showing signs of fear before the parents were involved. Not to mention I’m pretty sure her fear stems from the trauma of hurting Anna, not from what her parents did. I do agree that they made her fear worse because avoidance is a bad idea when it comes to anxiety. What they taught her was avoidance. Again, they may not have known what else they were supposed to do, plus the trolls could be blamed for some of it since they were following the advice the trolls gave them. I’m not completely convinced that the theory that the trolls are evil is correct, but they could be blamed for what happened, at least somewhat. What Elsa’s parents did could be a case of good intentions with bad actions, but is it abuse? I don’t think so.

I honestly love her. Loved her the second she got of that transporter in the movie. I was a little girl then and she taugt me what confedence is. That yes, little girls can kick as and have a personalety. The way i see it her sass is a blessing. Its funny, and most of the time shes got a damn point aswell.

One problem I have with her live action counterpart is that she just seems so restrained as a character compared to her other animated selves. Sure all her experiences could make her stoic but to be honest she kept her character mostly intact in the time skip between the clone wars and Rebels. So why should it be any different for her own show? Now it would be almost impossible to perfectly replicate the entire personality and energy the characters display in animation but the way the actors did their job made me think they were afraid to be more expressive. There's just something that's always missing in live action.

Also i found a quote for you guys sense you keep forgetting to find one before recording. "Stupidity combined with arrogance and a huge ego will get you a long way." -Chris Lowe

God i swear everytime Ahsoka opens her stupid mouth i just want to punch her. That arrogant/condescending tone is just non stop with her.

I think that Ahsoka should be called Darth Alice (since Alice is a girl's name and Alice rhymes with Malice)

Perfect writing

The more I think about The Clone Wars as a whole the more it upsets me, especially with Ahsoka. For example, the Mortis episodes as a whole just don't hold up. Like, first of all Mortis was always a strange fan-fictiony string of episodes to me. I always thought it was really weird that Anakin turned to the Dark Side and just had his mind erased, and Obi-Wan never saw an issue in that or foreshadowing of any kind. But more to the point, Ahsoka being revived was literal necromancy and the narrative set in the Clone Wars Movie was Obi-Wan and Yoda decided to give Anakin a Padawan specifically for him to learn how to let go of his pupil when the time comes, etc etc. Obi-Wan having no reaction to that at all was completely to fit the easy narrative and probably honestly the writers probably just forgot about all that. Bringing people back from the dead is unnatural. I wish there was a place I could talk about this kind of thing because most of the internet is so pro-CloneWars and even offering a bit of criticism will be combatted thoughtlessly. But I appreciate this channel for pointing out the problems with this show that have been overlooked for far too long.

2:59 Yeah. Her Arm should be gone. Entirely. As should half her upper body and head.

I plan on making a video where I talk about two issues with Varian's villain arc and then I talk a little about Varian's redemption arc. Plus I rewrite his villain arc. I pretty much say that his redemption arc only makes sense because of information that can be implied. If it weren't for the fact that in season 3 his goals were more about his father then I probably would've ended up agreeing when you said that his redemption was a 180. After watching this video I noticed something was bugging me about Varian's turn to villainy, so I rewatched What The Hair and Great Expotations and realized there wasn't really buildup for his villain arc. I don't think there's much in Queen For A Day either. I see what made you think it was out of character for him to become a villain. After I watched Great Expotations I didn't understand how Varian becoming a villain made sense. If anything before the scene where the amber starts forming and Varian leaves to get help contributes to his villain arc then I must've missed how.

Another interesting thing about Cassandra is that she seems to somewhat inspired by Jeanna d'Arc/Joan of Arc (looks, personality and story). It was funny how often Cassandra appeared in my mind while I was watching a documentary about Jeanne. Here are some parallels as examples: Jeanne heard (mostly female) angel voices who told her to fight against England -> Zhan Tiri told Cassandra to fight Rapunzel and while ZT was still in ghost-form no one could see her except Cass (making it seem like Cass was hearing voices) Jeanne cut her (dark) hair short and wore men's clothing -> Cassandra has short hair and wears men's clothing Jeanne personality was direct and kind of rude -> Cassandra is direct and kind of rude Jeanne was denied by the baudricourt multiple times before she got a change -> Cassandra was denied multiple times to be part of the guards before she got a change Jeanne was leading an army and fought during war -> Cassandra was leading an army (Secret of the Sun Drop) and fought herself as well Jeanne's leg got hurt during war -> Cassandra hurt her leg (admittedly that could be a stretch) Jeanne got burned -> Cassandra's forearm got burned Jeanne got severely injured during war, but insisted of continuing to fight -> Cassandra got badly injured, but insisted she was "fine" and kept going People/grown men were afraid of Jeanne -> People/grown men are afraid of Cass Jeanne got "promoted" after freeing Orléans (raised to nobility) -> Cassandra got "promoted" after leading the guards in SOTSD (became bodyguard)

I 1,000,000% agree with the overall message of this video. I also thought that Cassandra arc and trauma is extremely overlooked in favor of praising Varians and her build up was in my opinion way better than Varians. I just personally feel that her execution as a villain was weaker then his, because even though it is extremely obvious that Cassandra feels outshined by Rapunzel no matter all of her efforts to exit her shadow, Rapunzel is still very much the closest person in her life and her best friend. As much as Varian had nobody before it’s not really like he and Rapunzel had many episodes of building up their friendship, if anything he should be closer to Cassandra because they have had more bonding episodes together. It makes sense that he villainizes Rapunzel in his mind because he *isn’t close to her when his world gets flipped around* Cassandra has had many episodes of her friendship with Rapunzel and even though they clearly don’t have an unbreakable bond considering all of the negative factors and feelings of self doubt that have come up in Cassandra’s mind because of Rapunzel’s existence. Her friendship with Rapunzel has always pushed through and prevailed for so long on top of these feelings of worthlessness. Cassandra loves Rapunzel and it is obvious. So I think It’s out of character for her to villainize Rapunzel over the rest of Corona. She should’ve wanted to prove her worth to them and make them realize that she is so much more than what she seems to be, but she shouldn’t have thought she should do this by attempting to ruin Rapunzel’s life. It could’ve been a great misunderstanding where both of them don’t want to hurt each other but they’re both being convinced that the other one does want to hurt. I really feel like it should’ve been something of how Cassandra clearly felt shadowed by Rapunzel and wanted to clearly step out of that. But when it is implied that there is a chance Rapunzel could die from touching the moonstone. And after having her feelings of being outshined be pushed to its limits from figuring out about Gothal. This is why Cassandra takes the moonstone and tries to control it. She tries to prove herself and save her best friend at the same time. If it was a complaint that Cassandra should’ve been way more levelheaded than Varian, then this would appeal to both sides because *she isn’t trying to hurt just like how he wasn’t trying to hurt* the part where they let their failures to achieve their goals even after turning to villainy is what causes them to lash out and eventually want to hurt others instead of trying harder to either get recognition or get their father free. Cassandra should’ve eventually become more villainous, but she should’ve always had this feeling of guilt behind her because she was hurting her best friend by doing it. But she’s not gonna be patient anymore and she’s going to put herself first. Because waiting and letting Rapunzels feelings come before hers is what led to her being so unrecognized. TLDR Cassandra had a reasonable crash out but I think it was weird of her to crash out on Rapunzel instead of just the rest of Corona.

Its always the pathetic puritans that cant separate fiction from reality

She learned all the war crimes from Anakin prbly

To comment on the Jedi losing their way in the war, it plays a big part in my take of the Clone Wars. Basically the idea is that at the start of the war the Jedi don't take an active military role. As the Anakin says, they are peace keepers not soldiers. So the Jedi would focus more on humanitarian efforts. Helping refugees, escorting shipments of food and medical supplies. Then as the war goes on and leaves more destruction in it's wake we would see a more militant faction growing within the order. This group would say 'The war is only getting worst we need to do more to stop the innocents from suffering.' Now the Jedi would start going after criminal organizations. Pirates, The Black Sun, the Pikes ect. People who are profiting from the war and preying on those effected by it. We would see how many in the order react and are effected by the carnage and evil they witness. Further spurring them to wanting to end the war. To the point that by the end many are actively getting involved. Assuming combat roles and fighting in battles. We could see them clash with the other military personal. We could see some Jedi lose themselves to the Dark Side. There's so many story opportunities that TCW just wastes or only ever really give lip service to. It's so frustrating.

Do you guys hate Ahsoka more than Rey? Both are Mary sues but Rey is wayyyy worse.

The OG overpowered female character without flaws.

In the comic I'm dubbing right now, The Stark Hyperspace War, Obi-Wan finds himself in a similar desperate alliance with a relative of Tarkin's at an earlier point in time. I wonder if in this episode he was thinking: Is everyone in your family mad?

6:26 ON THE BEAT

%100 agree

Something important is that Lux leading Onderon to join "the good guys" was actually the biggest mistake he would've made for his people since siding with the Republic directly sends it to be under Imperial control Not that Lux himself cared much about it, during the better part of the civil war he was happy being rich while his people suffered. I'm sure his mother would be proud of him The Separatists were right btw

0:04 I don't feel like that one counts as "excessive" plot armor. Maybe it is plot armor but not an excessive one. We've already seen babies her age using the force in an effective way before. For example, there's the baby rhodian from The Clone Wars season 2 episode 3. He was literally making a ball float around.

My biggest gripe is the magicfication of Star Wars. Lightsabers are now little more than Harry Potter Magic wands, they can only be used by force users, their Crystals which only determined the color in the past, are now choosing their masters in a life threatening test, a life threatening tests for children mind you. And they can also hide themselves from others, as mentioned in that Ahsoka Book where the Empire mines Ilum for these crystals but only gets a fraction because most of those crystals "hide themselves" Then there are the literal Witches with green Warcraft Magic, which were only introduced because George wanted Darth Maul back for his Sequel idea, and were supposed to be exterminated once Maul was revived. Then there's that terrible mortis Arc. That other Balance nonsense. The Whills that no one except George cares about. The World between worlds, which was used to save Ahsoka, but when they tried to save Kanan Ahsoka said no, they shouldn't change fate. Motherducker. Ahsoka if you believe that than go back to Vader and die as you should.

It continues to amaze me how much the writing of this show just goes out of its way to show Ahsoka in nothing but a positive light. "Ooh look at Ahoska. She's so cool and great and everyone worships the ground she walks on."

"The only thing that wasn't stupid was what Tarkin had to say and Anakin agreeing with him" - Pretty much sums up this whole episode

I think the moment of Gothel abandoning Cassandra might even be a bit more traumatizing than we give it credit for. Like... imagine you being a 4 year old child. You are waiting for your parent to return. Being completely alone for hours, until it is already the middle of the night. Then suddenly a group of unknown men burst into your home and start screaming. You run to the door, just to see your parent (aka. the one who is supposed to protect you) on the other side of a river in front of a bridge. You shout for them, but as a response they destroy the bridge - therefore you cannot reach them - and leave you alone with those unknown (and probably scary) men. Then those strangers carry you away from the safety of your home and also the only place you have ever known. Meanwhile you cannot stop crying because you do not know if you will ever see your parent again. If I would have been in her situation, I would have been scared for my life. Before someone mentions it: Yes, the Captain said he would not harm her (and thankfully he kept his word), but he was still a stranger to Cassandra at this point. There was not a reason for her to trust him, yet.

19:11 She out-agilities him

Poor Rafa

I think Ahsara is also not too great of a character, she doesn't fulfill her promise of trying to be a middle point between Jedi and Sith after joining the Empire, overall she feels like a whiny hypocrite, who is always preaching to do Jedi stuff while silently allowing Darth Nox to do whatever they want, she doesn't fit in because she's both not as light as she claims to be but also not dark enough that she would realistically support many of the horrible acts Nox comitts. Of course i'm saying this as someone who played the Sith Inquisitor story as a dark sided guy, perhaps she feels like she belongs in the story more with a Light-leaning Sith or more neutral, perhaps i am just disappointed that she is always left in this limbo state without any possibility of turning her over to the Dark Side even a little bit, mostly because the game frames you recruiting her as "manipulating her" by how other Sith refer to the process, but in how it plays out it feels like Ashara is just too dumb to realize she's making a terrible decision, while also being completely impervious to any attempt by Nox to further corrupt her or turn her into a real Sith Apprentice, she displays a contradictory balance between her resolve and her gullibleness. I was really happy to go "i have no further use of you, bye" to her when she returned in the expansions lol, at least that way it seems like Nox is less of an idiot. She's still definetly better than Ahsoka or Jaesa.

As someone who was supporting the idea of the acolyte way before it came out, i will definitely say i was disappointed with what we got. Of course there were some things i liked about the show but overall i thought it was a bit too inconsistent lore wise and the miscommunication / lack there of really bothered me quite a bit😂. Another thing id like to add is even if you don't look at it lore wise or if you chose to take off your starwars glasses and looked at it individually as a project (even excluding anything politically motivated as well) i still don't see it being the most successful out there. One thing i definitely agree with you on and im sure everyone else does too, the fight choreography is certainly worth giving credit for. In my opinion nothing has been able to beat and or match the prequels yet, but id say the fight scenes we see in acolyte is probably the best we've seen since the prequels

Nah, she's just that good lmao. But in all honesty there are a lot of star wars characters with a ton of plot armor.

I’m personally sure that while Cassandra’s arc isn’t 100% perfect and Rapunzel was a bit TOO forgiving even though she’s Sunshine incarnate, I still enjoy it even if I think it could’ve been a bit better at how it was handled

Why would Ahsoka be destitute? As the former apprentice of Anakin Skywalker, she should be tripping over job offers for security, diplomatic services, even just with being a face in a toothpaste commercial.

2:05:31 I think it makes sense to be torn. I feel like in writing once a character faces their fears they're normally not scared anymore. Varian being cautious about the amber even after facing his fear would diminish what he went through in Be Very Afraid, but trauma doesn't heal that fast, so it could make sense for him to be a little cautious. The more I thought about it the more I started to think it might make sense for him to be okay with using the amber if he's more afraid of what happened with his dad than the amber itself. You could say that by facing the fear of the amber he realized he is more afraid of something happening to his dad than using the amber. He was only afraid of the amber because it encased his dad and maybe because of the guilt he had about his actions. He associated the amber with his trauma. I think this because of how he acts in Plus Est En Vous when Eugene brings up the mind trap. Varian starts being cautious then.

If nuance = bad guys don't know they're on bad guys' side, but when they do, they become good guys Then this show is as "nuanced" as they come. Unfortunately... that ain't nuance.

The fact that she's such a brat sometimes (most of the times in phase 1) is one of the main reasons, I love her.😁