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I also wish we got a more complex look into Wyll’s relationship with his father. Wyll was practically disowned for taking up his contract with Mizora in order to save the city his father presided over, yet he was cast out for his actions and punished for simply doing good. Even with these actions of his father, Wyll is very forgiving. It is not his forgiveness that perturbed me, but the lack of complexity into understanding why he was so willing to give it so quickly. We can infer through several moments in Wyll’s dialogue that his father instilled key tenants of justice and good into him, seemingly prioritising creating a ‘noble’ son over having a good relationship with him. There was very little allowance for unique development beyond being just and moral. Wyll still holds himself to these tenants, demonstrating just how instilled they are. He absolutely believes in them too, but I think we need to look deeper into why he is so morally good. How much of it is his core character and how much of it was placed on him by a father shaping a young man? When we rescue Ulder from the Iron Throne, the conflict between him and Wyll feels remarkably uncomplex. Wyll gives seemingly blind forgiveness to his father, and I don’t think this is explored enough. Why does he feel the need to continually please his father even after being cast out as a teenager? Now of course I may be reading far too much into select pieces of dialogue, and I may just be latching on to Wyll’s story because I relate to many aspects of it, but I can’t help but feel that the game didnt explains Wyll’s motivations and relationships enough.

Wyll girl here, i love every romance, and you're right i love me a prince that could sweep me off my feet

I can see why people are disappointed that Wyll is less edgy but I'm not one of them. Wyll is a cinnamon bun and I like that he's corny and romantic; but I do very much wish they gave him more to do in the first two acts.

Ive always felt bad for Wyll. I want to like Him as much as the rest of the party but He just doesn't have as much at stake. Though I honestly feel the same with Karlach and Gale to an extent. Shadowheart, Lae'zel and Astarion definitely feel like they are the more fleshed out and complex of the 6 main companions. Wyll needed more love and I really wish they kept that moral complexity from the prerelease. The goodest boy thing is fine, but it's just boring. I would have been nice to also see Him interacting with the party more. Like outside of Karlach He doesn't have any close dynamics with the others outside of some small talk and reactions. Like I think I could be interesting if Wyll didn't trust Astarion because He's a vampire spawn but eventually tries to help guide Astarion towards handling His past in a more healthy way. Or if Wyll took some time to comfort Gale. If they had to go the route of Wyll being the true lawful good guy then I'd want Him to be the glue that holds everyone together. That He sticks His head out more for everyone and tries to keep everyone focused. It would also be nice if Wyll's backstory and plot were given some actual fan fare. If something happened that was connected to It. I want Him to have more to do because I like Wyll! Hell make Him secretly really kinky and give the horny people something to chew on. Like anything please! (That was a joke, unless 👀) Wyll needs the love.

Shadowheart and Astarion are my favorite and most relatable from what I've seen and heard about the game so far. (Haven't played it) Also most attractive, but I'm attracted to relatable characters on that deeper level I guess.. Lol

Just to let you know MLE dialect expands beyond London to other Southern working class towns and is not limited to black persons. I'm a white immigrant, grew up in a working multicultural class town and everyone around some growing up spoke with mle.

Outtake: ya gay

you are so period for this mama subscribed at the time of your leon tier list a year ago and never looked back 🫶🏻 hope your move will go smooth and fine i wont beg for the re4 playthrough 😴

The sad thing about Wyll is that he had so much potential! I don't believe every character needs to undergo a major arc to be liked but his passiveness placed him kinda... just there. The prospect of a morally good Warlock is very intriguing and while he has no regrets, he does wish to get out of his contract. His good character only feels lacking due to lack of content. Like Wyll interacting and responding to events in the world around him. Two commenters made some points about how his background could have been utilized or his transformation to a tiefling essentially could have been integrated to his story and his interactions with the other tieflings. He gets so little for what could have been so much more. Another thing that irks me is his lack of agency. When you are at the Shadowfell you have the option to not intervene and let Shadowheart make her choice on how to proceed. Why doesn't Wyll get that kind of agency when the major ultimatum of saving his father vs keeping the contract comes up? Why do we make that choice for him? Of course Tav can influence him but he gets absolutely zero say in anything that happens around him. He just rolls with everything the player does. And his quest line was so haphazard. Astarion's story line has nothing to do with the main story. Like, remove Astarion completely and he doesn't influence the main story whatsoever. Wyll's quest didn't need to have a major impact in the main story to be a good and compelling one, like Astarion's. It was just all over tha place and doesn't even feel like it impacts the main story so much. Whn i look at Wyll i see a lot of "what could have beens" and so much potential! Like, morality dilemmas, the hypocrisy of defending tieflings but dreading looking like one of them, exploration of father and son relationships, political intrigue. I love Prince Charming Wyll, and as much as i want to hope it's not internalized racism that has made Larian neglect him, it's hard to avoid that the only underwritten character in the party is the one with melanin. He's thriving in my head-cannons!

the ending was very spooky on this one!! hope you are well on this day the lord's day, and every day.

Lae‘zel is also a scalie. She openly flirts with Dragonborn pc and doesn’t require a skill check if scalie player wants to be top. She really wants to be a dragon rider

so weird. my sis just told me she's thinking about moving to philly randomly. good luck on the move mia!

where's everyone going? bingo?

Wyll be like: Welcome to Baldur's Gate, i'm WV from Grow Streets.

*Wyll gets transformed* Me: "Cool" Wyll: "Omg I look like a monster, people are gonna freak out! What cruel punishmnent D'x" Tieflings which are a normal part of society: 👀

love the sweater and video mia

it would be interesting to see you play the silent hill games. particuarly the first or third game.

I really liked this game. It was a hidden gem that deserves all of it's praise. Great video!

Wyll had so much potential since the early access, it's a shame his character became so boring.

In my first playthrough, I was romancing Astarion but somehow triggered the dancing scene with Wyll. I felt so guilty rejecting him that Wyll was my only romance in my second playthrough. I rejected Halsin and Astarion for him in that playthrough!!!

Him being altruistic is the problem tho 😅 I can't do a damn funny or morally ambivalent thing without him getting pissed off

i love the shakespheare videos!! they are my favorites tbh (though I don't know much about any of the plays, i like learning about them). also thank you for doing the hard work to confirm that juliet was in fact a leo

this was so interesting!!! you really explain things in a way that makes sense in my brain <3

I'm straighter than I'd like, gayer than you'd think. Lae'zel is very committal. When you earn it anyway. I get people not seeing the best in her. Because if you don't romance her, you really don't. But seriously, if you romance her, she becomes so sweet & thanks you for giving her freedom & showing her how much more there is to life. Maybe I only appreciate her because I'm the only BG3 player who hasn't spent all their time fawning over Astarian or Shadowheart lol. Astarian & Shadowheart have too much trauma. They're too toxic & manipulative in general for me.

Thanks for pointing out to me that Wyll is white. I actually never quite realized. In the world of elves and tieflings and what not, his colour of skin seem to matter little.

Im so glad you included the audio! Just cracked me up with editing 😂

Hi there! Just found your channel and love your videos! I actually love Wyll and my current dnd character I’m planning to play is lowkey based on him Hihi. Anyways, I would really love to see this channel grow so maybe I would make the text on your thumbnails a little bigger as to make it more catchy! Hope this helps and can’t wait to see what you post in the future :-)

I really do think the rewrite was a mistake. They could have taken another pass and ironed out some of his more egregious faults from the beta without cutting his inner conflict. As is, he may be a more likable character in the full release (hell, I still like what we got), but absolutely would have been a more memorable one if they kept some of the beta version's faults to make a proper arc for him.

My main issue with Wyll is that I preferred his early access version. I added him onto my team on my first ever playthrough of the EA because he had such a vested interest in making the goblins pay; his Act 1 quest essentially was defeating the goblins and saving the tieflings, something a lot more tied into the main plot. I still like the Wyll we have, but I do sometimes lament what could have been. Same thing with the Dream Visitor vs the Dream Guardian, I was just more interested in the early access version.

I loved this analysis, very interesting insights. I wish you would leave the images for longer to really take in all the info you’re mentioning

honestly as a straight dude this game is one of the gayest pieces of media ive ever encountered and it would 1000% be worse if it were any less gay 🤷‍♂

im only 20 minutes in but this is a fantastic video so far. There's obviously been a lot of shallow observations about Wyll over the last year but you've already raised some real and interesting points without raising any fake outrage for an overall still loveable character and wonderful game. subbed :)

Wyll has main character energy, he’s the only character whose origin story I played.

the hair/costume design in house of the dragon is stunning and so well considered! great video, nice to see a deeper look at rhaenyra's character through hair, i love how complex she is ❤

Wyll is one of the reasons why i consider Divinity original sin 2 is better than Baldurs Gate 3. DOS2 feels more complete.

In my headcanon, wyll is the main character and protagonist, he spares Karlach. He saves balder's gate and his father wants him to be grandduke but having fallen in love with Karlach he leaves to avernus after pleading with her to save her life and he takes on the role of the blade of avernus and swears to help Karlach to get vengeance for what they did to her. Added layer, he multiclasses into a paladin or sword-bard early on. taking advantage of his depowered state as a result of being infected and uses it as an opportunity to become powerful through his own effort and not through the pact so that he can confront mizora when the time comes to save the duke and telling her to shove it, he doesn't need her power anymore

i like keanu reeves hair... he always has good hair. hhmm u could talk about astrology or spirituality as it relates to some movie or game that has elements of that

I think the thing with the Wyll and Alistair comparison is that it isn't the race that is why Alistair works more, though there is unconcious bias possibly, but it's that Wyll was forced into being Alistair when that wasn't the original plan for the character, at least at that time in the story, unlike Alistair, where Bioware had a plan with him and never compromised it. But imagine if Dragon Age Orgins was an early access game and people complained about Morrigan being too mean and Alistair being too whiny and those character traits being dialed down for the sake of the players, and that is kinda what happend with Baldurs Gate 3. This could be a point in arguing why early access game design can be more detrimental in comparison to games being designed and then released. Dragon Age 4 has 2 new black companions though, which is great.

loved the linguistic perspective you were able to provide on this topic, it wasn’t an area i found to be well discussed so this was an important part of the conversation id never considered! thanks for the hard work, this is great

@mialikesmovies What is your ancestry? You look quite distinctive with those full lips? Ashkenazi Jewish✡?

Wyll is nothing more than a Token Minority that was added for DEI... If you think he wasn't then you are clearly not familiar with DEI and the Forced Diversity narrative in White spaces, culture and history...

Reality is that people were bound to complain for the sole reason that he is the only main black character in the game. Back in EA people were already talking about how "boring" he was, how they didn't feel like they wanted to play his story line as much as the other characters'. People were also complaining to Larian on the other side for making the only black character have "questionable morals" (mind you, all characters at that point were morally gray at best). Then they changed the character completely, and now people are saying they preferred how he was back then, after basically forcing Larian to take the safest possible choice and try and make him an "unhateable" character. I wish Larian stuck to their original vision and made Wyll the flawed, complex character he deserved to be, but I think they got too caught up in the whole "listening to the community" thing, which worked in favor of the game in many ways, but was a detriment to the writing in this case.

The only companion done more dirty than Wyll is Jacob in Mass Effect

Never apologize for being cringe

I actually have a different look on Wyll. I like his story arc. Don't get me wrong. I think he's a wonderful character who's just as worthy of romance as anyone. I think the only reason why people find him boring is simple. With his character, he offers stability (with the exception of Minthara), while others prefer instability. As far as the other characters go, they offer adventure and the next good time. In real life, people often prefer that compared to a stable relationship which I think is foolish. That's just my take on it, of course.

Baldur's Gate III is pretty good but... have played BG 2? Now, THAT's a best of all time.

ah Wyll prince of my heart