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I Believe the Doctrine of the Trinity is False Teaching, But Do I Believe in Unitarian Exclusivism?
Dr. Dale Tuggy - Ten Arguments for Unitarian Inclusivism
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I think trinitarianism is false teaching about God and his Messiah, but I think it contains basic truths that have led some people to obediently follow Jesus. God judges us based on our behavior according to the light we have. However, in my opinion, to reject truth about God and his human Messiah, for self-serving purposes, once it is clearly revealed, is to set oneself on the wrong path. One must believe Jesus is a real man (2 John 1:7), and not just a being that added some human properties (like a mere impersonal human nature) and some trinitarians (and others) indeed think he is a real man - but they unnecessarily and errantly add, "but he's also God", or "also 100 percent God, or divine (in the ontological sense)." I think they have acknowledged the basic belief that Jesus is a real man, even though their additional thoughts undermine what they have confessed. As Dale Tuggy has noted, these folks are in a low information state because of inherited traditions - but I think, since they do believe Jesus is a man (even though they errantly add to this belief in their confusion), if they are obediently following him, they are Christians.
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I think trinitarianism is false teaching about God and his Messiah, but I think it contains basic truths that have led some people to obediently follow Jesus. God judges us based on our behavior according to the light we have. However, in my opinion, to reject truth about God and his human Messiah, for self-serving purposes, once it is clearly revealed, is to set oneself on the wrong path. One must believe Jesus is a real man (2 John 1:7), and not just a being that added some human properties (like a mere impersonal human nature) and some trinitarians (and others) indeed think he is a real man - but they unnecessarily and errantly add, "but he's also God", or "also 100 percent God, or divine (in the ontological sense)." I think they have acknowledged the basic belief that Jesus is a real man, even though their additional thoughts undermine what they have confessed. As Dale Tuggy has noted, these folks are in a low information state because of inherited traditions - but I think, since they do believe Jesus is a man (even though they errantly add to this belief in their confusion), if they are obediently following him, they are Christians.
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Only a Perfect Man Could Make Atonement for Mankind
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For as by one man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by one man’s obedience many will be made righteous (Romans 5:19 RSV). Although he was a Son, he learned obedience through what he suffered, and having been made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him (Hebrews 5:8-9 NRSVue). By saying Jesus made atonement for mankind, I take this to mean that Jesus' deat...
John 14:28 - Only the Father is God Almighty
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The quote from Dr. Craig can be found here: www.reasonablefaith.org/writings/question-answer/defining-god/
1 Samuel 8; Psalm 110:1 - God's Human King
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Descriptive summary about this video from a friend (Brandon Duke): (An) appeal to open theism, and God’s response to our free choices, (an) appeal to God’s program of moral development, and recogniz(ing) the value God puts in elevating one of us who is worthy to a rightful place of leadership. Yes! Thanks, Brandon. Resources: focusonthekingdom.org/articles_/adonai.htm focusonthekingdom.org/arti...
Did Jesus Claim to be God in John 8:58?
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Did Jesus Claim to be God in John 8:58?
I did not tell you to keep your rudness because you disagreed, I told you to hold it because you were infact rude, when I tried to help correct your misunderstanding of the scripture you quoted. We either have sin, or we do not. We either serve unrighteousness, or we do not. If we have sin, we do not get into heaven. If we have sin, we go to hell. We cannot enter heaven with any amount of sin, and if we have any amount of sin, we are not saved: therefore; For God to even indwell in your body, you must be saved, and if you are saved, for God to dwell in you, your flesh must be crucified (put to death with Christ) meaning, you must believe that he died for your sins, and that you are forgiven of them, for him to forgive them and kill your flesh, for God to allow Himself to indwell in you; meaning: God will not indwell a vessel that has sin and is unholy. So if you do not believe, God is not in you. No matter what you oppositionally say about it; God is Holy and sovereign. So killing the flesh to have rebirth is number one, in getting to heaven. Number 2 is that if God cannot idwell sinful flesh, than neither can sinful flesh indwell Holy Heaven, meaning: your spirit must be Holy, (having the spirit of God) and upon receiving non sinful spirit the next step is having no sin in the flesh. So your flesh needs to be temporarily killed for now on earth, but it is only spiritually void of sin until the redemption of the receiving of your Glorified body, which is a promise of God for those who believed, which will be sinless flesh that can dwell in Heaven. Though your flesh on earth is temporally void of sin, it's still corrupt and cannot come to heaven, that is the reasoning. If you don't believe, God is not in you, and your flesh is alive and your spirit dead, meaning God sees all of your sins the flesh commits on earth, He has not turned his face from it, nor forgotten it; You aren't forgiven for anything. So to be dead in the flesh, is to be alive in Christ. So Paul was not talking about serving the flesh as a matter of sinning, he was regarding serving unrighteousness (being in unbelief of the gospel) to being the servant of the devil, and sinning unto death. In other words [blaspheming the Holy Ghost]. Taking unbelief to your grave. Paul was not preaching about sins of the flesh, because Paul does not believe that people whom are saved have sin. Rather: the only sin, is to not believe Paul's Gospel by Grace through faith; and you cannot believe by Grace, if you deny God's Grace in unfaithfuness of the truth of the gospel. (Everything I've just told you) Because you don't believe God has given Grace to you, for remission of your sins through faith in it. Something you don't deserve (Grace). Everything that you have sent me only further spiritually concludes that you are not saved. I do not care about men who write books about the Bible for filthy lucre that are not saved, their very own selves; I care about the men who were witnesses to Christ, who wrote the truth, for every man to believe, whom themselves were saved according the the only truth that they preached. You have 2 options: You can believe and be freed from sin, and the bondage of the flesh thereof, have eternal everlasting life, and be redeemed; or you can deny God's truth of His son, and keep reading from false testimonials of writers of religious unfaithfuness (the witness of men) and (serving those whom are the servants of unrighteousness) And sin unto death. Where there is Law, there is not Grace, and where there is not Grace ,there is sin, and where there is sin, there is unbelief. (Death) Those that did not get into the kingdom were unsaved, They were people who obeyed unrighteousness, and disobeyed righteousness. Disobeyed the will of the Father (which was to believe and be saved) They put faith in their works, and deeds, (which was not the will of the Father). They had unbelief and were never forgiven [self decieved] Works don't determine getting into heaven at all.
Question if you give Jesus the glory of God the Father then isnt that blasphemy equating the creation equal to his creator.
I think God is greater than Jesus, just as Jesus taught us. But I also see in scripture how a ruler's agent is to be treated as the ruler himself, according to the biblical principle of agency. For example, notice what is said about Joseph in Genesis 44:18 - "Then Judah approached him, and said, “Oh my lord, may your servant please speak a word in my lord’s ears, and do not be angry with your servant; for you are equal to Pharaoh" (NASB95). Joseph was not Pharaoh, but as his chief agent, he was seen as his equivalent, on a functional level. Just so, we can gather from scripture that Jesus, as God's chief agent, was functionally equal with God. However, this was due to the status God gave him, not because he was "consubstantial" with God. In fact, Jesus told us we are to honor the Son as we honor the Father. God himself has given Jesus this exalted position. Now, that's not to say that God isn't greater than Jesus still - he is - but it does let us know that God isn't upset when people are honoring his agent as they honor him, for to honor the sent one is to honor the one who sent him. So I think trinitarians are in error, and I think they need correction because trinitarianism has dangerous pitfalls, but I think those who humbly seek to follow Jesus (who perfectly expresses God's mind and character) through the confusion, are accepted by God (Acts 10:35), even though they have been misled by erroneous assumptions about his nature.
Genesis 1 is ELOHIM (Lucifer and the fallen angels). They made man in their image. (tares) Man is an idol, a trap to hunt angels. Genesis 2:7 the Lord God forms His representative in their system. (wheat) One Gospel: Gospel (GOOD ANGEL) of Reconciliation. Jesus Christ came into THEIR kingdom to reconcile fallen angels unto Himself. We are the fallen angels (ELOHIM) kept in DNA chains of darkness. If you do not confess being a fallen angel in Lucifer's kingdom, then you are an unbeliever. Unbeliever = those that claim to be made in the image of ELOHIM(gods). REPENT FALLEN ANGELS.
Agreed!! I like how you explained this, excellent video!
100% agree. I cannot understand the worlds insistence that Jesus is Almighty God! He never claims to be, scripture never states that He is, yet people insist that He is anyway🤦♂️ Reading the Bible exegetically leaves no serious truth seeker any other choice but to acknowledge a clear difference between the Father and the Son not just in personage but in authority, power and sovereignty. YHWH is the one and only Almighty God then, now, and always. He hasn’t changed since the beginning. The over-arching theme of the Bible seems to be a matter of correct worship. The evil ruler of this world managed to trick the Israelites into worshiping many false gods throughout most of the Bible, and sadly he is now tricking most of the world into worshipping our Lord Jesus Christ rather than the One who sent Him. That is NOT what Jesus wants! He wants us to worship His Father and our Father. His God and our God - YHWH🙏
John 8.40
That Romans 5:19 quote is very straight to the point on this. And it wouldn't make sense to change it to 'by God's obedience many will be made righteous'. That would just sound ridiculous, as if he needed to be obedient to himself. The Trinitarian, of course, wouldn't describe it in these terms, but their belief does seem to imply it. I guess Trinity doctrine would teach that God in the form of a man became obedient. And because only God can be perfect, then only God could be that man who offered himself. However, though it's true that men cannot be perfect, this doesn't take into account that Jesus had the spirit without measure, and by this spirit power the Father was dwelling in him and doing the works. The son of man who God made strong for himself (Ps 80:17).
Right. God did not obey God unto death. God doesn't obey anyone, and God can't die!
Right! Well said.
What do you do with Genesis 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.
Well said, I’m with you.
Exactly, Jesus the man was not God, but his messenger.
To cut to the chase - are you hence saying Jesus is a created being?
Yes, he was supernaturally begotten by God in the womb of Mary.
How do you know anything in the bible is true? How do you know what someone says is true?
I have a question, this is just my understanding of it: Are there any verses that say or imply that Jesus is not God? Because I feel like some of the verses mentioned in this video, point towards Jesus being God. That's the revelation that I've been given. Please help me understanding better.
Regardless of whether or not we believe or speak the word, trinity. There is God, the Word and the Holy Spirit. and nothing will ever change that fact.
That's not a fact. That's a belief. I understand and respect that you believe that, but it is not a fact. I take issue with this because your beliefs affect your actions, and far too often the actions of religious people acting on their faith causes great harm to others. Again, I understand you believe this, but please do not impose your beliefs onto others.
@@taylorthetunafish5737 John1:1 King James Version 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.
@@taylorthetunafish5737 That's not my opinion. Curious though. Are you saying that you don't believe in God, you don't in Jesus and.or you don't believe in the Holy Spirit. That all 3 don't exist, just 2 of the 3 exist, what is it you think you believe? Or do you believe what you're told to believe?
@@FirstLast-zk5ow Do you believe Zeus exists?
@@taylorthetunafish5737 Zeus? What are you on about now?
This one’s kinda obvious: ““Behold, the virgin shall be with child and shall bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which translated means, “God with us.”” Matthew 1:23 LSB
Yes, it is obvious that this language was borrowed from Isaiah by Matthew. When Isaiah wrote these words, he was referring to a king in his day, calling him Immanuel. Calling him Immanuel in no way meant he is Yahweh - it was a name signifying that Yahweh would be with the people through this individual. Same with Jesus. A woman in the Book of Proverbs named her son Othniel, which means "God is with me." Obviously, this didn't mean her son was God.
Satan testing Jesus/God: “And Jesus answered and said to him, “It is said, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’ ”” Luke 4:12 LSB
Ummm, no. Jesus was saying that he (Jesus) would be testing God if he (Jesus) followed Satan's suggestion.
Only God can forgive sins. Jesus forgives sins: ““Why does this man speak that way? He is blaspheming; who can forgive sins but God alone?” But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins”-He *said to the paralytic,” Mark 2:7, 10 LSB
God gave Jesus, the Son of Man, the authorization to forgive sins. Jesus gave the same authorization to his disciples.
God literally calling Jesus God: “But of the Son He says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, And the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of Your kingdom.” Hebrews 1:8 LSB
Satan is called God and people were called God too. The God in that text is not in the monotheistic greatest God
God literally calling Jesus God: “But of the Son He says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, And the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of Your kingdom.” Hebrews 1:8 LSB
This is a quote from Psalm 45:6, where the Davidic king is the referent in the verse. And you forgot to read the next verse. Jesus has a god over him - just like the king in Psalm 45.
Amen brother beautiful truth we thank God for His Son Jesus
There are numerous passages. Jesus is claming he is God, so I disagree with you. Jesus said before Abraham i am in the Old Testament, Mosses asked God in the burning bush how show we call you, and God replied I Am." In another passage, Thomas said to Jesus my lord and my God i can go on and on. No hate though
Correct, the guy in this video is not a Christian.
There was no jesus in the old testament.
@@taylorthetunafish5737 ,...The whole old testament spoke of Jesus, a/the Messiah.
@@RepentofYourFakeChristia-wr7fq Go find the word jesus in the old testament.
@@taylorthetunafish5737 ,...The lack of the word Jesus being in the old testament means absolutely nothing. If you were not completely Biblically illiterate, and 100% spiritually dead and blind, you would understand this. Repent of your fake christianity!
looool this man literally said exegesis is an excuse, you people are lost. you are dangerous and can make the bible say anything then
Correct, and this is exactly why there are tens of thousands of denominations. Everything known as the church is apostate, all denominations and everything that claims to be Christianity is a manmade fraud. There is one truth and one church and it has nothing whatsoever to do with what the world and church thinks is the church.
Jesus in His humanity is inferior to the Father, finite and mortal. This is why He experienced human life as a normal man. But in regard to His divinity, He is infinite, superior and immortal. These two can be clearly evident in His death and resurrection. When we consider Him in regard to His humanity, all we shall find is that He is inferior, limited, mortal etc. Also, all humanity had its existence in and from Adam. But Christ was not only human, He was also divine. This is why He was born of Mary and the Holy Spirit. All Mary did was to give a body to this eternal life of God that came into her as the Spirit. Therefore, Christ should be understood in these two lives, in His human life and in His divine Life. God in Christ put on humanity and blended together divinity with humanity. Though He did this, He never annulled humanity off of its priorities. This is why in humanity He admitted that God is greater than He. God is greater because He is the creator of humanity. All humanity bear allegiance to Him. Though He put on humanity, he never deprived it of this. He still considered humanity as inferior to divine, limited and finite too. He never exalted humanity higher than God, even though He was God Himself in this humanity. He respected it, embraced all its limitations and carried on with it. This is why Jesus never went everywhere saying "I am God". This would have been a violation. It would have seemed or looked like humanity trying to exalt itself. It would have looked like an insane person (limited, finite and human) trying to call Himself God. The Bible never teaches this. The Bible never teaches that there had lived a man on this earth who was God! Believing this way is hilarious. However, the Bible clearly shows us that on this earth, God, who is infinite, eternal, unlimited and divine, once put on the humanity and lived among us. It is always the Word becoming flesh, not the flesh claiming to be the word!
When we consider Him in regard to His humanity, we should be careful. His humanity was not different from mine or yours. Jesus in His humanity experienced human life just like a normal human. He wept, felt hungry, walked, sung, praised God, prayed to God etc. He lived a normal human life. However, though this was this way, it never meant that He wasn't divine. He still expressed out His divinity by doing things only a divine person can do, eg, He forgave sins, controlled nature, and even accepted worship. But, even if He did all these things, His intention was not to prove out to mankind that He was divine. No, His intention was to prove out to man that He was God in a human form( 1 John 4:1-3) Now where does the confusion comes from? It comes from us men who think that through the Gospels Christ was trying to prove to man that He was God. Then we start to divide ourselves between those who believe that Jesus was God and those who believe that Jesus was a man . What was He? He was both! The Gospels are not here to prove to us that there lived a man on this earth who called himself God. This is not the revelation.
When you consider history, you will find something twisted. Many believers who ignore Christ's divinity today believe that this idea of Christ being divine was added in the early stages of the church by Constantine the great during the council of Nicea. They believe that before this, believers used to believe that Jesus was a man (without being divine) and he was sent by God on earth to execute salvation. But when you carry out a care full study of scriptures and the history, you will find it out that something was twisted. During the early ages believers used to believe that Jesus was divine and human. However, the enemy came in and started to attack this. How? By making believers believe that Jesus was not HUMAN! In early ages Satan didn't attack Jesus's divinity, he attacked His humanity, probably by making believers believe that Jesus was not HUMAN ( read 1 John 4:1-3 carefully) Not only so, this attack was also carried out on Jesus Himself when He was living here. When you read His temptation in the desert well and carefully, you will find out this attack was behind that scenario
During this temptation, the devil always addressed Jesus as the "Son of God" ( Matt 4:3, 6). What was the devil trying to do? He was simply trying to acknowledge the divinity of Christ. Now, as a divine person, it couldn't have been too much if Jesus turned stones into bread! However, while replying the devil, Jesus embraced His humanity by answering " It is written: 'man'..." This was a hidden battle behind that temptation. To make Jesus Christ accept that He is divine but not human! This is what inspired John to write that passage in 1 John 4:1-3
Our early brothers believed in the two natures of Christ --divinity and humanity. The devil came in to distort this by manipulating them to believe that Jesus as the Son of God was divine but not human. In John, the idea was not to prove to us that Jesus was God. John wrote to prove to us that God became Jesus, He put on Jesus and lived among us. Jesus never tried to prove Himself to us as God, rather, He proved out clearly to us that through HIM God, who is divine, infinite, eternal, the creator, superior, supreme, Almighty, greater, immortal etc, became human. The infinite put on finite, the unlimited walked through the limited, the superior experienced the inferior etc. He tested humanity on our behalf ( He 2:8-18) However, though He put on humanity, He never existed to be divine! He did all this to as accomplish His purpose. His purpose is to have sons. This can only be accomplished by Him going through the process of becoming the Father, the Son and the Spirit. The Trinity is not for doctrinal purpose, it is not just for theological fact; rather, it is for the accomplishment of God's Eternal purpose. Only those who have come to the knowledge of God's purpose can understand why God was willing to act under the titles of Father, Son, and the Spirit. Those who don't, the rest to them is for doctrinal, scriptural, and theological arguments!!!!!
You have spoken correctly. The guy in this video is completely spiritually dead, blind, lost, deceived, and totally Biblically illiterate. He is accursed of God as he shows with his ignorance.
Before Abraham I Am. Jesus Christ is born of the Holy Spirit Jesus Christ is is the begotten son who is with God Jesus is the Truth the Way and the Life nobody comes to the father but by Him Jesus is the Alpha and Omega Jesus Christ says I have the power to lay down my life and to take it up again. Jesus appeared in the house of the believers without going through the door Jesus preformed miracles castings out demons Jesus Christ says I and the Father are ONE Jesus Christ of Nazareth is the King everlasting Holy Spirit the judge of the living and the dead. Who ever says God Almighty isn't able to do anything to His Glory is a liar.
Correct, the spiritually dead and blind (the guy in this video) have no ability to understand Biblical truth. God has blinded and accursed him.
Jesus' prayer was for his disciples to be one (John 17:11), even as he and God are one. He was speaking of a oneness of purpose, not an ontological oneness.
@@LoveAndLiberty02 Jesus Christ of Nazareth is born of the Holy Spirit of God Almighty who gives eternal life for all to receive the Grace of the Lord whoever asks seeks and knocks shall receive the Holy Spirit. Ontological is a bit of an academic approach nice word but it's not about that. It's about receiving Grace for everlasting life in the spirit and not to be confused with philosophy of the world but being born again of the heavenly kingdom.
The temple of the Holy Spirit is Man.
@@LoveAndLiberty02 ,...God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are all God. They are not three separate persons, they are God revealing himself in three different ways. Michael, Gabriel, and Lucifer are also all God, as is the Bible (the two witnesses). God is seven spirits, and not just three. Gods chosen ones (the actual Christians) are all one in that they all understand and believe/hold to the Bible the same as they are all taught the truth of Gods word by the Holy Spirit. The people of the church are not taught by God, they are all taught unbiblical nonsense by the Godless men of the Godless world/apostate church.
Amen. I was shaken up when I read John 3:6 and connected it to John 1:1. John 3:6 says, "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." No one interprets the word Spirit the same way in the second half of that verse. The first instance of "Spirit" is definite, and obviously refers to the Holy Spirit. The second instance of "Spirit" is indefinite and does not refer to the Holy Spirit, unless one believes Christians literally become the Holy Spirit when they are born again. The second instance of "spirit" is qualitative and could more literally be understood as "That which is born of the Spirit is spiritual". If we interpret John 1:1 in this way, we would translate it, "The Word was with God, and the Word was divine". Comparing Scripture with Scripture, and the author of John with his own figures of speech will dismantle Trinitarianism.
Interesting connection. Thanks for sharing!
Jesus was not here trying to say, "that which is born of the flesh is fleshly and that which is born of the Spirit is spiritual" like how you present it bro. If it was so, He would have used "those" instead of "that" Man is made up of three parts, that is the spirit, soul, and body. Therefore, the flesh cannot give birth to the spirit. The flesh only gives birth to the flesh but the spirit can only receive life by the Spirit. This is why Jesus said, "Spirit gives birth to spirit" The birth that the Spirit gives is a birth in the very life of God and this can be given through and by the Spirit alone. It is not that being born of the Spirit means being spiritual. It means having the very life of the Spirit.
"Jesus is God" ---- William Lane Craig Does he mean Jesus is the trinity?
I don't think Dr. Craig would say that Jesus is the trinity, I think he has said something like all "three persons" of the trinity are "properly" called God (whatever that means), indicating their co-equality.
I love how you go through so much Scripture in these videos, and you show how it's all saying the same thing!
Thank you for the encouragement!
The only thing this ungodly man showed is how absolutely Biblically illiterate, and how spiritually dead, blind, lost, and deceived he is. He is a 100% heretic and is accursed of God. Do not be deceived by him.
Amen. Very well explained. Praise be to God for this straightforward revelation he's given us.
Thanks! Yes, the scriptures are straightforward: we have one Almighty God and one human Lord - not a trinity-god.
Repent of your ignorance!
Fantastic!
Thanks! Hopefully, others will see the scriptural truth about God and Jesus.
This is excellent! Jesus tells us the Father is greater than he. I'm not sure why people want to say something opposite of what Jesus says.
The father is greater than he was before he fulfilled the promises of God's covenant through the prophecy meaning to believe that He is the promise of salvation that God made to Abraham. Before Abraham I AM. God Almighty is the Spirit of Christ the Spirit being greater than the body broken for the sins of man. God the Spirit Jesus Christ born of the Spirit being Holy.
Jesus also says as you believe so is it let it be so as you believe.
Jesus Christ says I have not come to judge but to take judgement away from you. Judge not lest you be judged.
Whomever calls his brother a fool is in danger of the fires of hell. Whoever blasphemes the Holy Spirit there is no forgiveness of sin not in this life nor in the life to come. You must be born again. Born of the Holy Spirit.
The truth is, this was an abomination. Everything this heretic presented is 100% false manmade unbiblical nonsense. It is all the teaching of a spiritually dead and blind man. Repent!
disciples and writers of the Bible testify that JESUS is GOD: - Thomas: John 20:28 - "Thomas said to Him, 'My Lord and my God!'" - John: John 1:1-3, 18; 20:28 - John refers to Jesus as the Word, God, and the Son of God. - Paul: Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Philippians 2:6 - Paul refers to Jesus as God, the image of God, and in the form of God. - Hebrews: Hebrews 1:3, 8-10 - The writer of Hebrews refers to Jesus as God, the exact representation of God's nature, and the Creator of the universe. - Peter: 2 Peter 1:1 - Peter refers to Jesus as our God and Savior. These verses demonstrate that the apostles and other writers of the Bible testified that JESUS is GOD, emphasizing HIS divine nature and significance our Christian faith.
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You made a hugely important point that I hope even the majority of Trinitarians will acknowledge soon. When the Pharisees said, “you make yourself God”, I think there’s no way they were thinking in modern Trinitarian categories. They didn’t think Jesus was claiming to ontologically be the creator God - he referred to God as a separate being so many times. They clearly saw him as claiming attributes and actions that are only true of God, and thereby accused himself of “making himself God”. There’s a difference between saying “I am the President of the USA” and saying, “I have the power to veto bills from Congress”.
The same Scriptures that condemn God’s people for demanding a human king over Yahweh also condemn God’s people for refusing to submit to that king once he has been appointed.
Love this!! God bless!!
This is wonderful teaching. Can I ask what tools you use to record this?
Just my cell phone.
Greg, how to do you record these?
For all but a couple of them (the longest two I used my computer), I have just used my phone. I set my script and camera on split-screen mode. Here's where I get really technical for the short videos using my phone ....my wife scrolls through the text that I prepared 😄.
The reasoning of some trinitarians is mind numbing. Thanks for this.
This is a really good explanation brother! Love your work!
Thanks!
Right. Saul was a king chosen by people, and Jesus was chosen by God. Claiming that a human chosen by God is our king is in no means rejecting God. That's a weak argument from the Trinitarian side.
Jesus always was so He lived in heaven I assume
The genesis of Jesus was in the womb of Mary, though his mission was planned by God long before that.
We were all in heaven before we came to earth. "4 Then the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, 5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations." (Jeremiah 1:4-5) Jeremiah, as were all of us, was with God before we all came here.
That passage is specifically saying that we DIDN'T exist before birth. Think about it. It's saying that God is so great, He knows people BEFORE they exist. If it's saying what you claim, then it's saying God is just like everybody else, He knows people who actually exist. Romans 4:17 (ESV) as it is written, “I have made you the father of many nations”--in the presence of the God in whom he believed, who gives life to the dead and calls into existence the things that do not exist. God talks about things that DON'T exist, as if they do.
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The one true God could be a reference to everything including now the expanding universe. Yahweh is a state of mind you are in when you write laws that influence humanity. Inspired by good
John 2:19 King James Version 19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Jesus Christ is God revealed in the flesh, only God has power to give life. Especially to raise his own self ❤️ Father-God Son-God with us Holy Ghost-God in us
That verse says nothing about God being a three person being. Furthermore, over and over again, the scriptures say that God raised Jesus from the dead. When speaking with those who were opposing him, Jesus spoke in veiled terms here about his resurrection - he was not speaking in a woodenly literal manner. Jesus knew he could guarantee his resurrection by his perfect obedience to God.
There are a couple verses showing God and Jesus are the same person, and there are others that show God, Jesus, and the holy spirit, but not in one body. There's no direct evidence that they are one, just assumptions from context in the books.
@Chowderz64 the trinity is a man-made doctrine that didn't show up until the late 300's. It ia not taught in the scriptures and there are no verses that clearly show it. If someone who had never been exposed to the doctrine of the trinity picked up a Bible, they would not come to the conclusion of a triune God on their own.
@@mamaofadozenI know, that's what I said. I've seen verses stating father, son, and holy spirit but it never directly specified they were one body
@@mamaofadozen I take back my statement, I've done some research and found some verses Exodus 3:14 NIV God said to Moses, “I am who I am. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I am has sent me to you.’ ” John 8:58 NIV [58] “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” Hosea 12:5 NIV the Lord God Almighty, the Lord is his name! 2 Corinthians 3:17 NIV Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom Exodus says that God (The Father) calls himself I Am John has it written that Jesus claimed he is God Hosea declares LORD is the name of God 2 Corinthians claims the Spirit is the LORD and vice versa. 2 Corinthians was written in the 1 century around 55 A.D
Great approach
Great video and verses! And right, nowhere is there a single Bible verse to prove that Yahweh is a "triune God" .
The most difficult thing about the Christian concept of the Trinity is that there is no way to perfectly and completely understand it. The Trinity is a concept that is impossible for any human being to fully understand, let alone explain. God is infinitely greater than we are; therefore, we should not expect to be able to fully understand Him. The Bible teaches that the Father is God, that Jesus is God, and that the Holy Spirit is God. The Bible also teaches that there is only one God. Though we can understand some facts about the relationship of the different Persons of the Trinity to one another, ultimately, it is incomprehensible to the human mind. However, this does not mean the Trinity is not true or that it is not based on the teachings of the Bible. The Trinity is one God existing in three Persons. Understand that this is not in any way suggesting three Gods. Keep in mind when studying this subject that the word “Trinity” is not found in Scripture. This is a term that is used to attempt to describe the triune God-three coexistent, co-eternal Persons who are God. Of real importance is that the concept represented by the word “Trinity” does exist in Scripture. The following is what God’s Word says about the Trinity: 1) There is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5). 2) The Trinity consists of three Persons (Genesis 1:1, 26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8, 48:16, 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17, 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14). In Genesis 1:1, the Hebrew plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for “us” is used. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun “us” are plural forms, definitely referring in the Hebrew language to more than two. While this is not an explicit argument for the Trinity, it does denote the aspect of plurality in God. The Hebrew word for "God," "Elohim," definitely allows for the Trinity. In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking. Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus’ baptism. Seen in this passage is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are other examples of passages that present three distinct Persons in the Trinity. 3) The members of the Trinity are distinguished one from another in various passages. In the Old Testament, “LORD” is distinguished from “Lord” (Genesis 19:24; Hosea 1:4). The LORD has a Son (Psalm 2:7, 12; Proverbs 30:2-4). The Spirit is distinguished from the “LORD” (Numbers 27:18) and from “God” (Psalm 51:10-12). God the Son is distinguished from God the Father (Psalm 45:6-7; Hebrews 1:8-9). In the New Testament, Jesus speaks to the Father about sending a Helper, the Holy Spirit (John 14:16-17). This shows that Jesus did not consider Himself to be the Father or the Holy Spirit. Consider also the other instances when Jesus speaks to the Father. Was He speaking to Himself? No. He spoke to another Person in the Trinity-the Father. 4) Each member of the Trinity is God. The Father is God (John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2). The Son is God (John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20). The Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16). 5) There is subordination within the Trinity. Scripture shows that the Holy Spirit is subordinate to the Father and the Son, and the Son is subordinate to the Father. This is an internal relationship and does not deny the deity of any Person of the Trinity. This is simply something our finite minds cannot understand concerning the infinite God. Concerning the Son see Luke 22:42, John 5:36, John 20:21, and 1 John 4:14. Concerning the Holy Spirit see John 14:16, 14:26, 15:26, 16:7, and especially John 16:13-14. 6) The individual members of the Trinity have different tasks. The Father is the ultimate source or cause of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; Revelation 4:11); divine revelation (Revelation 1:1); salvation (John 3:16-17); and Jesus’ human works (John 5:17; 14:10). The Father initiates all of these things. The Son is the agent through whom the Father does the following works: the creation and maintenance of the universe (1 Corinthians 8:6; John 1:3; Colossians 1:16-17); divine revelation (John 1:1, 16:12-15; Matthew 11:27; Revelation 1:1); and salvation (2 Corinthians 5:19; Matthew 1:21; John 4:42). The Father does all these things through the Son, who functions as His agent. The Holy Spirit is the means by whom the Father does the following works: creation and maintenance of the universe (Genesis 1:2; Job 26:13; Psalm 104:30); divine revelation (John 16:12-15; Ephesians 3:5; 2 Peter 1:21); salvation (John 3:6; Titus 3:5; 1 Peter 1:2); and Jesus’ works (Isaiah 61:1; Acts 10:38). Thus, the Father does all these things by the power of the Holy Spirit. There have been many attempts to develop illustrations of the Trinity. However, none of the popular illustrations are completely accurate. The egg (or apple) fails in that the shell, white, and yolk are parts of the egg, not the egg in themselves, just as the skin, flesh, and seeds of the apple are parts of it, not the apple itself. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not parts of God; each of them is God. The water illustration is somewhat better, but it still fails to adequately describe the Trinity. Liquid, vapor, and ice are forms of water. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are not forms of God, each of them is God.
The Bible doesn't teach that God is a three person being. As Jesus taught us, the Father is the only true God (John 17:3). The apostles clearly did not teach that Jesus was the God of their ancestors (Acts 3:13). The Trinity is a make-believe doctrine that was formulated in the 4th century.
Right! In most people's arguments online that I've seen, they claim that the verse is talking about a trinity, but then they have no proof to back that up.