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The UMC has now become a movement not a church. Saying that, i think they should start getting a little visit from the IRS .

The umc has lost its way...truly heartbreaking!

Hopefully 99 percent of the members are conservative and not judgement

I get so tired of this BS. It’s over with. 99 percent Methodist are old and are not going to change churches they still have their old traditions. This church is not going to grow. Listening to these pod cast will make people stop going to church. In Baptist and non denominational churches is full of adultery

Arrogant. Drop the B S. Most members of the U M C are older people and they will continue their beliefs. They will not change churches and will continue to worship as always. This is happening in all churches.

Dude, young men will NOT want to associate with effeminate leaders who sit with their legs crossed. Just saying…try re branding by demonstrating biblical masculinity

The UMC wokeness was open for the world to see at general conference 2024. Folks are in many churches are running for the exit doors. The future of the UMC is a much smaller denomination that is a woke liberal echo chamber like the United Church of Christ!!

As a young person who grew up in the UMC, one issue that I have had with the UMC (and I have met other people who grew up and have left the UMC who expressed the same sentiment without me bringing it up) is that most of the time the UMC feels more like a charity group than a church. It feels like a Rotary Club, Lions Club, Masons, VFW, American Legion, etc., etc. It's a charity club. That's cool for people who have the energy, time, and/or money to be volunteers and who really enjoy that kind of stuff, but that tends not to be young adults and it begs the question of why the UMC instead of Rotary/Lions, etc.? It just doesn't feel like a church, or (being very generous) it's a church that has prioritized "Love your neighbor" over "Love the Lord your God" and just has it's priorities out of order. There are a lot of other issues too, but I think they often boil down to the UMC simply being a "boomer" denomination. Not to be "okay, boomer" about it, but it's true - as a generation the baby boomers were just able to shape and mold the UMC to themselves more than just about any other denomination, so it is just distinctively a liberal-leaning baby boomer denomination. Too much about the messaging, worship, and environment of the UMC has been and is still shaped by the sentimentalities of the boomers to really appeal to younger generations, but that's sometimes hard to specifically identify and correct for. A combination of factors has just pushed the UMC out of the market. It has grown hostile to or anti-evangelical, so it's not really an option for most evangelicals anymore. Along those lines, the worship service and capabilities of most UMC congregations just can't match the praise & worship rock-show experiences that so many nondenominational churches have now. The UMC also isn't the place for people who are charismatic nor is it a place for fundamentalists, and those all mean that the major cores of American Protestantism just don't belong in the UMC. That alone rules out most people, and most young people, in rural America. On the other hand, the UMC doesn't have a consistent theological or liturgical tradition, so it doesn't appeal to Mainline Protestantism anymore. Lutheranism and Calvinism (Presbyterianism) have their own systematic theologies that can draw in and appeal to people. Anglicanism offers a lot theologically and they offer a substantial, consistent, and historical liturgical tradition that appeals to a lot of people. Methodism just doesn't have those - Wesley wasn't a systematic theologian... Methodism was a movement, and that movement isn't needed anymore frankly. Anglicans (and pretty much everyone else) have picked up on the practices that made Methodism unique and other charismatic denominations have continued on further the spiritual charism that started with Methodism. We just don't fit in with the Mainline anymore, so we don't appeal to mainliners. I found that the lack of consistent, mature theology and liturgy of the UMC made it a very religiously shallow place. There just wasn't any room to grow and nowhere to dig roots. I left to be able to do those things. Other people leave for "big eva" churches with the shows to catch their attention. Others just drop out entirely because the discipleship of the UMC was just too shallow to build or sustain anything. After the split with the GMC now, the UMC is even more stuck in liberal baby boomer world. It's very obviously a politically liberal denomination (it feels like just a spiritual wing of the Democratic Party - I've even seen in person and on Facebook/Twitter UMC-ers reject that we should do anything special, acknowledge, or celebrate in any way Independence Day in Church because we are supposed to be global and un-national... even the Catholic Church has a "Mass for Independence Day"! So does the Episcopal Church! How much blander and out of touch with society can we get?), so if a young person (or anyone of any age) has conservative leanings, then the UMC is just not a welcoming or attractive denomination. The theology that is expressed or presented usually leans in progressive/modernist directions, which doesn't appeal to people seeking anything deeper than poetry or who want something connected to history and tradition - anything that's bigger than themselves. Likewise, the worship, especially the liturgies of the Book of Worship, reek of "sunshine and rainbows" style boomer, hippy sentimentalities. A LOT of young people are actually starving for tradition. Our world (& technology) are constantly changing, and a lot of young people look to religion to offer them something timeless. The "new & cool" attitudes of the UMC only appeal to the boomers who were all about that in the 60s-80s. The UMC would do better if it actually used the liturgies of the 1662 Book of Common Prayer like John Wesley told us to (if we did that, we'd at least offer something unique in every small town that has a Baptist & Methodist church, so instead of trying to compete with the Baptists, we'd actually be able to offer something they can't & won't do!). We're also supposed to celebrate communion every Sunday according to Wesley, but most churches I know of don't do that and either refuse to or don't see any reason to do so, which underlines the poor theology that exists in the UMC. It also means that church services aren't really worshipful... there's no reason to show up in today's world. You can listen to or sing music whenever, you can pray whenever, you can listen to sermons whenever, you can listen to scripture whenever, you can even tithe whenever... there's no reason to get out of bed early on Sunday to go to church for most people, and I would say that's largely because we don't regularly offer the sacraments or emphasize their importance. We've lost the message Wesley had. Not to rain on the parade, but I don't have much hope for the UMC. I think the showboating at general conference made the UMC lose a lot of credibility with a lot of people, and I don't think the changes and directions that the UMC wants to throttle will actually result in growth or discipleship among any demographic. People seeking religion will go to other denominations, and the UMC is still just going to be competing with the charity groups (all of whom are also experiencing similar problems of aging membership with few young people joining...)

shout out to Tiffany

He SO said that last part backwards.

I can't figure out why your subscriber count is so low. You guys do a really decent presentation. Looks and sounds good. You work hard to have a good pace and decent content. Decent thumbnails. Very strange, guys. Considering that y'all have been at this a while, your subscriber count should be over 1K, easily.

We’re happy for the UMC here in Canada.

Do you believe in the pre-Tribulation rapture of the Church? If you do, take a good look at this video. This church will look and sound the same way as you see it here the Sunday following.

Thank you for mentioning getting back to the basics of the Wesleyan movement. I’ve been interested in reviving the class meeting model for the 21st century for some time. Perhaps in retirement I can work on that.

STFU “it’s time” “inclusive “ it’s time to be exclusive bitches.

UMC trying to rewrite the Bible.

Good luck! And when you fail, as liberals , you can always look around for someone else to blame…

Yes

The people of Sodom and Gomorrah did not leave anyone out. They included everyone and everything…except God. How did God respond to that?

Practice what Jesus preaches in the Bible not what you preach.

Yoga Symbolism in the back ground. The Lotus pose invoking the Tara the a Hindu Goddess. Pantheism.

The apostasy is amazing. How spirit denying can a people be. Deut 28 says “I have put before you blessing and curses”. The UMC has chosen curses.

The maggots eating on a dead corpse are dreaming of revival...oh Lord of Flies, have mercy on them!

They say they do not believe what God has revealed and they are rebelling against God. So at least they are practicing their unbelief.

Legalizing sin in your church won't get you nowhere.

The Holy Spirit will not lead you in a direction.That's contrary to scripture. Get back to scripture that is that is your foundation

The Holy Spirit aint in that room.

With the changes the UMC is making I can safely say God and the Holy Spirit is not with you.

The UMC has codified itself as an apostate church.

Watching the death of a church that I left decades ago because it had utterly lost it's way. Very sad.

What are they reviving? They seem to be going their own unbiblical way. Its more of a reinventing of the UMC in their own image. Truly sad, we need to pray for them.

Wrong. Read the Bible.

I do think so church have to move on

Pray for the UMC they follow the culture, not the bible.

Revival is marked by repentance and a return to Holiness. Revival will come to the UMC when they repent for turning their back on God.

Truley amazing commentary. Mind numbing but amazing. Your ilk have destroyed the Episcopalians, the Presbyterians and the Anglicans and you still try and peddle the same old line. You should be ashamed. The Bible tells us about false teachers and the end result is not very pretty.

Loving our neighbor, as did Jesus, involves speaking the truth in love.😊

We cannot be silent! How powerful! What is the speaker’s name so I can find the whole speech? Man was preaching 🔥

“Jesus claimed” as if Jesus might lie from time to time UMC is hell bound

Why is “forcing you to have a gay pastor” always the example? I’ve heard multiple people use that exact example. A better concern is: Will they force a traditionalist church to have a pastor who affirms LGBT ideologies? I think the answer is probably yes.

Wide is the gate broad is the path to destruction You people are clueless your church is no longer righteous Your church is falling apart right before your eyes and all you can talk about is revival it ain’t gonna happen It won’t be long before yall merge with the universalist at act like your church is growing lol it’s over

You see only God builds satan destroys it’s going to get worse now that the godly people have left the church

I’ll bet George Soros has something to do with this

This humanism agenda is blasphemous. Climate change fear = godless So sad a once great church is no more This is all probably orchestrated to take over SMU and insure generations of hod hating liberal weirdos

Revival? You liberals aren’t through destroying yet !! UMC church lost its way !! You think you can revive it with the lgbtqxyz? That’s a satanic revival so sad

Santan the great destroyer has worked his magic on the UMC

You people have totally destroyed the UMC. Satan can’t build he can only destroy it want be long until the UMC is just a memory.

What I value is the Word of God and Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, today, and forever!

😊A believer's hope is in Jesus Christ and Him alone!

I love my neighbor. I also want to be taught and led by a person who strives to follow the infallible word of God. Living in sin is NOT obedience to God.